August 10th Open Ice
by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 9:48 AM PDT
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A few news items to get your day going:
- The Fourth Period takes a look at Vancouver's off season.
- A Detroit newspaper focuses in on Ryan Kesler and NHL 2K11.
- As mentioned yesterday, there are some changes to the Team 1040 line up that are pretty positive (especially Matt Sekeres, one of the better Vancouver insiders around).
- The KB guys look at where Pudge, Balls and Mitchell may end up.
- Head To The Net had a good birthday curfew letter posted for Shane O'Brien.
- Definitely check out nucksandpucks piece on "Five reasons I Love the Canucks". Mysteriously missing: Tommy Santala.
- Lastly, there's something about Kovalchuk, circumnavigation and the Luongo deal you may have heard about. Beantown is available for council for the low, low price of your first born child.
To piggyback off of nucksandpucks, feel free to name the top four most influential non-players in Canucks history; basically the good and the bad GMs, coaches, owners and water boys that spring to mind.
Go ahead. Be brutal.
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Dank's
ridiculously awesome final game goal won goal of the year on Canucks.com.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 10, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
Nice
That game was men against boys. Sort of felt bad for Kipper after that one.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I feel no
sympathy for Kipper, ever.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 10, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Considering I think it also won TSN’s play of the year and NHL.com’s play of the year… I’m not surprised it would win Canucks.com’s as well! In second place my guess would be Lu’s crazy flailing glove save game 6 vs. the Kings?
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
no, the competition in the last round was burrows’s back-2-back hatties.
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Well that’s kind of a cheat. Getting a hatty, or getting back to back hatty’s, is not a play, it’s a sequence of strong plays. If you’re going to allow that, I would argue the ‘play of the year’ should be Henrik Sedin setting the Canuck single season point record and winning the Art Ross!
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
The Griffiths
Pat Quinn
Roger Neilson
Brian Burke
Honourable mentions to Mike Keenan and Dave Nonis.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 10:18 AM PDT reply actions
Yeah I’m debating if Keenan makes the cut. He was so destructive and yet helpful at the same time.
Got no complaints with the rest of the list.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
When we see what Ballard, Hamhuis, Malholtra, Schroeder and Hodgson have to offer… on top of Sammuelsson and Ehrhoff… then Gillis may well make his case to join the list too. But right now he’s had less of an impact than any of those guys on my list.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks for doing the ice today, Yankee. i just got to class.
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No sweat
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
i usually end up doing it during class, but i’ll gladly take the day off :P
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Tommy Santala!?! How did I forget his irreplaceable impact on my formative years as a Canucks fan? Thanks for the reminder Yankee! ;)
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He meant so much to all of us.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
He has a dear place in my heart right next to other Nordic standouts such as Mika Noronen, Magnus Arvedson and Robert Nordmark :)
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by nucksandpucks on Aug 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Forgetting? It’s tattooed on my ass.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a lot of letters. How big is your ass?
A creep from the cradle, but a hero's what I want to be
Ouch, my pride.
Computer guy and blogger? I’ll have you know my ass is huge thank you.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s wierder: Yankee bragging about the girth of his ass, or smoboy demanding said TMI information?
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MMM HMM
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Too much?
I’ll have you know I was considering purchasing some Canuck boxers for Yankee. Now that that cat’s out of the bag… :(
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Magnus Arvedson, now that guy could kill a penalty let me tell ya. Actually I’m being serious. The dreaded Arvedson-Chubarov combo was cool.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 10, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
How many PK combinations both had a V in their last names?
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I saw Magnus Arvedson
play for the Canucks at GM Place. He even scored a goal!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 10, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The Griffiths
The Griffiths
The Griffiths
and The Griffiths
If it wasn’t for them we have no team. We have no arena. We have no Canuck Place.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 10:51 AM PDT reply actions
My Top 4
1. Frank/Arthur Griffiths
2. Pat Quinn
3. Brian Burke
4. Sean Zandberg and Yankee Canuck
4. Mike Keenan (unfortunately)
My list is almost identical to Beantown’s. Hard to argue against the major owners, coach/GM combos or the pugnacious one himself. Also, between the three of them, Burke/Quinn/Keenan were responsible for bringing in a huge number of key players: the Sedins, Naslund, Geoff Courtnall, Jeff Brown, Ronning, Messier (ugh), Mogilny, Bertuzzi; etc.
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If you’re including Quinn, how can you not mention:
Bure
Linden
McLean
Adams
Lumme
If you’re including Burke, how can you not mention:
Kesler
Morrison
…and Linden part II
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
To be honest I was too lazy to go back and check when he actually came on board (1988 maybe?). So I wasn’t sure about some of the late-80s acquisitions – e.g. Bure, Linden, Mclean, etc. And yeah, good point about Kesler, Morrison, and Linden Redux. It wasn’t meant to be an exhaustive list by any stretch. Ohlund should be on that list too.
Though if we’re going to give Quinn credit for great picks like Bure and Linden, is it fair to dredge up draft duds like Jason Herter, Alex Stojanov, Shawn Antoski and Josh Holden?
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by nucksandpucks on Aug 10, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Well if you’re going to give Burke credit for Sedins…
…etc etc etc
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, you’re right for sure. Though the Sedins are particularly epic for the wrangling it took to get both picks (not to mention avoiding the landmines that were Patrick Stefan and Pavel Brendl!). This thread is sparking a couple of other when-the-hell-is-the-season-going-to-start type lists: best trades in Canucks history; and best draft picks in Nucks history. Could make for some fun debate.
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by nucksandpucks on Aug 10, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Burke traded McCabe to get the other Sedin and we all know how we got McCabe in the first place right? From Keenan flogging Linden to New York. Long live Iron Mike!
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 10, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
and Jarko Ruutu as the draft pick. OLE!!
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 10, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Quiinn was around for 9 years, man! Nine freaking years. That’s hard to fathom considering the revolving door of the last 6 years.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
influential non players...
…does demitra count?
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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 10, 2010 11:48 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice
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by nucksandpucks on Aug 10, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he was more of a player than he was influential
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 10, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Griffiths
Quinn
Burkie
Aquilinis
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 10, 2010 1:57 PM PDT reply actions
You mean John McCaw?
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 10, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
the one that Aquilini swindled.
Throw Clouts in there too.
The motherfucker was angry.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 10, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Who made that incredible trade for Markus Naslund?
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by Karina on Aug 10, 2010 4:36 PM PDT reply actions
wasn’t that the current Leafs’ GM?
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 10, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, Pat Quinn
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 10, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Quinn’s gotta be on there, then.
Wasn’t he also coaching during the 94 playoff run?
BTW, he lives in West Van most of the year.
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by Karina on Aug 10, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, yes, and…yes! :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 10, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat Quinn
Roger Neilson
Brian Burke
Mike Keenan
And I agree with Beantown, give MG a few more years and he might actually break into the top 4. I was totally against his hiring at the time. But since then, most of his moves have been pretty good. He changed the dynamic of our franchise for the positive, and deserves credit for improving drafting, player development, and the facilities. He has improved the marketability of the franchise to free agents, while also being fiscally responsible in regards to the cap and future salary.
Yeah
brace for impact my friend.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 11, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
heheh, yoata is like a bear…he’s in hibernation right now :) But wait till he comes out of his cave
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 11, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahahah yeah, I know he’s an MG hater. And , while good, MG is far from being a great GM, he’s been as good as he’s been lucky. MG has faults, but I still think he’s had a positive impact on the franchise.
I’m open to debate and others opinions. Who knows, maybe he’ll convince me to change mine :)
that’s the spirit!
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 11, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
except, when he bags on Sundin don’t listen to him. Then he’s completely full of shit :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 11, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Sundin
FTW!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 11, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a little nervous right now
it’s quiet. A little too quiet.
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by Section 312 on Aug 11, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
the deep breath before the plunge?
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