Oh Markus....
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2010 3:52 AM PDT
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PrintI know, we have talked this Naslund jersey retirement to death since the announcement was made by Mike Gillis at the Summer Summit. I, like several other Canucks fans expressed disdain for the choice to retire his #19. It wasn't a new development. This had been argued in the past, as we knew this day was coming.
Well, management has made their decision and I have to live with it. This may be one of the more controversial jersey retirements that I've seen in a long time. There is a majority vote for the honor to occur, but I think it is fair to say that the vote from the fan base is about 75% FOR. That is far from a lock in Canucks fans' opinion. In a humane sense it is unfortunate. That means that about 25% of the people in the stands on Naslund's celebratory night are going to get caught up in the moment but deep down will have some reservations about it. Hey, I have always wanted a Canucks captain to be a warrior. A guy that goes out onto the ice and runs guys into the boards or, drops the gloves to defend a teammate or changes the game with a big hit. Naslund was not that guy. A Jarome Iginla or Mike Richards he was not. That angered me. He didn't play with the tenacity of a Smyl or Linden. His passive nature was something I thought was not good enough for a Canucks captain. But browsing through YouTube videos and reading articles about him I realized something: Naslund was loved by his teammates. Trevor Linden said that Nazzy wore his heart on his sleeve and that basically there was no bullshitting with Naslund. He told it like it was. Other teammates said that Naslund was a guy that they could confide in. He was very approachable and willing to listen and to help.
Those are leadership qualities too. So, while from what I saw on the ice from Naslund annoyed me so many times, as he looked indifferent and stone-faced etc etc etc, especially towards the end of his tenure as a Canuck, there is something I must realize: Naslund's stone face was just the way he was. He took things in stride. He HAD to, playing in hockey-mad Vancouver, where every move is scrutinized to hell. It didn't mean that he didn't care, or didn't want to scream at his mates to get going and win. Apparently he challenged the boys a lot more than I thought. It's just that I never saw what happened behind the scenes. I don't know Markus Naslund. I'm a couch GM who can sit behind a computer and make my accusations and judgements. Many times I can be wrong. So, while I still have my reservations about his number being immortalized in Canuck lore, I am willing to be open-minded about the whole thing. I apologize for my harsh words about him earlier Thursday, mostly. While I still wish we had a more aggressive captain in those years, I cannot completely ignore Naslund's accomplishments. I cannot ignore the pure bliss of the good times we had with him as captain, even though we never got a round 3 of the playoffs with him, which, by the way, is a TEAM failure more than a Naslund failure.
Like Section312 mentioned today: if we retire Stan Smyl and Trevor Linden's numbers, how can we not retire Naslund's? I cannot argue that. Naslund, even though he was not the same type of player that Smyl and Linden were, still holds some serious Canucks records. And while these accomplishments would mean less on a Canadiens or Leafs team, given their rich histories, we are the Vancouver Canucks. Yes, I wish the team had a richer history but what in the hell is the point in dwelling on that? These are the cards we have been dealt since 1970. Yet we still watch these guys religiously and wish for a better fortune. The past cannot be changed. We love out team. So, even with the dismal years still fresh in our memories, we must carry on. In our case, for better or for worse, Markus Naslund is easily one of the best players to ever don a Canucks jersey and needs to be shown some respect for his long and mostly successful (from a personal standpoint) tenure as a Canuck. With that in mind, I present to you some YouTube clips of Naslund:
1. Naslund tribute for his 1000th game. Here you can hear what his mates say about him.
2. End to Ender. Gotta love this:
3. A back-breaking goal in Game 7 versus the Blues
4. Naslund 2005-06 highlights. Where did he score most of his goals from?
5. Naslund pissed after a loss
6. Sick hands vs Cujo
7. More Naslund tribute footage. Check out the goal at 1:43. My fave Naslund goal of all time.
8. Naslund Tribute Part 1
9. Naslund Tribute Part 2
That is all for now. Congrats Markus on this honor. See you in December.
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You and I have agreed to disagree on this subject for quite a while and its kinda nice to see you come around on this one…albeit just a tad bit.
I know lots of people will compare Markus with Stan Smyl and Trevor Linden and, frankly, that is unfair, as all three are completely different players who had massive impacts on their teams at completely different times.
I will always remember Markus Naslund as the one who brought me back to the Canucks after the abyss of Messier and Keenan. Despite the struggles in the playoffs of that team…it was a team that was entertaining to watch, with players that had personality and were likable. Markus helped save the Canucks from who knows what would have happened to the team, had they continued down the slippery path they were going. He picked up the community service torch that Trevor Linden lit and helped bring the team back into the community…as well as into our hearts with his play.
I agree with Gillis…this decision was a ‘no-brainer’. The question about Bure is a little more difficult to make, as clearly the Canucks look at jersey retirement as something for a player beyond what they did on the ice…as it should be.
I can’t wait until the ceremony…because I will actually be able to watch it, LIVE, on TV when I get home!! Yay!!
Good read man. On some level we’re all couch GM’s and we put our athletes under a microscope. We scrutinize some and worship others. In the end we’re all entitled to out opinion. As for my veiw on the jersey retirement I’m all for it. To give to an organisation for as long as he did and not get recognition would be a slap in the face.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 9, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice post Sean…not everybody can have their minds changed on a purely subjective topic and yet still be open about it.
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Great post Sean! I like that you are willing to alter your stance somewhat without completely reversing it. I find so many debates on blogs/in the media get polarized very quickly, removing space for ambiguity or grey areas. I think you capture much of that ambiguity about Naslund’s legacy with the Canucks.
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It didn’t mean that he didn’t care, or didn’t want to scream at his mates to get going and win. Apparently he challenged the boys a lot more than I thought.
I always thought he was a lead-by-example kind of captain, rather than a rah-rah kind of guy. Two moments for me speak to Nazzy’s leadership and commitment:
1. When he admitted that the Canucks “choked” by blowing the division lead (and, for him, blowing the Art Ross) in the last game of the 2002-03 season. I always thought Nazzy was a straight-shooter with the media, and took accountability when the both he and the team were not performing to expectations. You did not hear him dodge a lot of questions, even if he didn’t give the most exciting interviews.
2. In Game 7 against the Flames in the first round of the 03-04 playoffs, Naslund went end-to-end to set up Matt Cooke’s game-tying goal with 6 seconds left. It was one of those moments, had the Canucks not lost in OT and then had gone on a successful playoff run, that would have been looked back on as monumental. It seriously felt to me like Nalsund willed that goal to happen, that he was going to do everything in his power to send the game to OT.
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Link to the Cooke goal...
… is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c5Bu84b0c0
Not gonna lie, I have not watched that since it happened. The memory of Jovo jumping up and down in the box is just too painful. Apparently the douchebag Flames LOVE showing that clip on the jumbotron.
My memory was slightly wrong – it wasn’t quite end-to-end, but still he rushed from his own blueline, and was seriously a man on a mission. That, to me, is Naslund’s leadership at its best.
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by nucksandpucks on Jul 9, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
the flames can show that clip all they want…it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of history that calgary won that game in the end, that cooke goal was one of THE iconic moments in canucks history, at least for as long as I’ve watched the team. That goal was as memorable to me (maybe more so for that image of jovo in the box) as the double blind tape to tape pass to between the legs goal by the sedins this season was. This much later, the fact that we lost the game in the end and the hated flames went on is really moot…they still didn’t grab the grail that season either, and if showing a failure by their team on the jumbotron makes them happy, well, what more can u expect from the fLames?
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Also helped reinforce how much I wanted Jovo off the team…but that’s for a different thread!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 9, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Still painful to me though. And yeah, as I’ve mentioned many times before, the Flames love to hate the Canucks and make this abundantly clear in their in-arena media — this is just one example of that. Screw the Flames.
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by nucksandpucks on Jul 9, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I watch it
all the time. I remember I was watching that game when it happens, I jumped up and cheered so loudly.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 9, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I was going ballistic. I had a 3rd-year exam the next morning – definitely did not study much for that (keep in mind I was in the Eastern time zone). Totally worth it though.
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by nucksandpucks on Jul 9, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
In Game 7 against the Flames in the first round of the 03-04 playoffs, Naslund went end-to-end to set up Matt Cooke’s game-tying goal with 6 seconds left. It was one of those moments, had the Canucks not lost in OT and then had gone on a successful playoff run, that would have been looked back on as monumental. It seriously felt to me like Nalsund willed that goal to happen, that he was going to do everything in his power to send the game to OT.
This was one of my favourite moments ever as a Canuck fan (unfortunately, of course, heart was ripped out approximately 25 minutes later).
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
Naslund has the best wrist shot at the height of his power as far as I’m concerned. The way he can laser the puck to the top corners w/ pinpoint accuracy is a sight to behold. I love Burrows but only if we have someone who can shoot like Naslund playing w/ the Sedins, 60 goals is not out of the question.
by slitheringslider on Jul 9, 2010 1:42 PM PDT reply actions
Welcome! Yeah, what an insane wrister indeed. The highlights are full of them. Great backhander too
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Linden
was never that kind of captain either, he liked to throw his weight around but rarely did anything but cower when challenged, and he had what 4 inches and 40lbs on Naslund?
Besides, Yzerman wasn’t that kind of captain either but nobody questions his leadership because of it.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I'm not a Linden guy
as I am sure people are now aware. But I don’t remember him cowering from any challenges. But I don’t have the best memory sometimes. Do you have any examples?
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by Section 312 on Jul 9, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Not specifically
but I know he did it a lot, he didn’t fight much, and got challenged a fair bit, guys getting in his face, sometimes much smaller guys and he’d often just look and back away used to drive me bananas that a captain, a big physical guy that hit a lot, would do that.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Maybe he didn’t fight, but Linden is still the keeper of one of the best NHL clips to date.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQEEAKcEoEA
I could watch that on repeat until my eyes bleed.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 9, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck thats awesome
My friend was at that game where he put him through the glass.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 10, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Cowered? Really?
I think of Linden as a tough guy willing to stick up for his teammates. One of my favourite Linden moments ever was his last game as a Canuck before getting traded. Some guy on the other team cheapshotted Messier (to whom Linden had voluntarily surrendered the captaincy, and who along with Keenan basically drove Trevor out of town). Who jumped in to defend him? Linden. He had every reason to hate Messier’s guts, and he stepped up and fought for his Captain. A week later he was gone.
You don’t call that leadership?
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by nucksandpucks on Jul 9, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
a lot of people think of him that way, but the truth is that was one of the few times he did anything like that. And why should he hate Messier’s guts? He voluntarily gave up the C to him, that fact alone doesn’t make you wonder how he could have been such a great leader? I mean what great leader does that? Would Yzerman have given up his captaincy to a veteran addition to his team? Would Scott Stevens have done so?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Ouch. New can of worms! How do we know he “voluntarily” gave up the captaincy?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
“It was just something I had to do,” Linden says now, leaning on our table. "If you looked at it, if I remained the captain, bringing in a player with [Messier’s] history and his leadership qualities, if things did go wrong I was going to be second-guessed the whole time. So my only option was to say, ‘Mark, listen, I think this is the way it should be’ and Mark accepted it, so we moved on. Obviously, he felt that was the way it should be.
The Province, 2001.
When Naslund became the new captain he said:
‘’I was never going make the kind of impact Mess does because I was never going to be the physical force he is,’’ Naslund said shortly after becoming captain. ‘’In his last year here, a lot of players were scared to say anything in the locker room with Mark in the room. To me, the best way to improve a team’s chemistry is through give and take."
Quite the read on this era here.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Still sounds voluntary no? Maybe Messier and Keenan dropped hints but Linden put the team first, knowing Messier was the bigger presence. And even if they did ask him, he was still decent enough to not admit it, play it off as Messier is the voice to listen to.
In related news, I STILL cannot stand Messier.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 9, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Still say
him giving up the C was just typical Linden not having the balls required.
I mean when Dallas added leaders like Niewendyke, Carbonneau, etc to become true contenders did Derian Hatcher give up the C?
When the Avs added guys like Claude Lemieux, Wendel Clarke, Ray Bourque, etc, did Joe Sakic step aside?
When Detroit added veterans like Shanahan, Coffey, Larionov, Fetisov, etc, did Yzerman say “here you go, I’m good”?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
maybe they made him an offer he couldn’t refuse
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Horse
in bed?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 10, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that I don't agree with you yoata
but let’s not act like Messier was just a “veteran addition” he is considered one of the greatest leaders in sports history. None of the players you mentioned in your examples are on that level. Again, I am not saying I don’t agree with your overall point I just don’t think those are great examples.
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by Section 312 on Jul 10, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
If Gretzky made it here we’d have been screaming at Linden to cough it up
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 10, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You think it shows poor leadership to voluntarily give up the captaincy? To make a statement like that shows your knowledge depth and wisdom pretty clearly. To hang on to the captaincy when someone who was at the time was arguably considered the very model on which sports leadership based was there would show incredibly piss poor leadership and lack of class to boot. Not that you of all people would ever understand that second concept.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 10, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
GAHHHHHHHHH SMASH
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 10, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll let the rest of you tiptoe around the resident volatile hypocrite jackass lest u incite his ire for having an opinion different to his, but personally I’m done giving two squirts of piss what he thinks about me. As the saying goes, out of 100 million sperm, it’s hard to believe that he was the champion…
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"hypocrite"
Irony at its finest…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Yup. Feel free to die in a grease fire, jackass.
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agreed
take a time out, boys.
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Bad boys Bad boys
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 11, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Yeah you’re a real catalyst for positive change there Twitty.
LMAO!
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Try harder, son.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 12, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Joke.
If I have a problem with what yoata says I say it, but I think he is useful to combat groupthink. And sometimes he can be an asshole, and frankly so can the rest of us, so I feel like it all evens out.
Serenity now.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 11, 2010 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions
LMAO
Twitty wants to talk about class, too funny.
Like I said, Linden was supposedly a great leader in his own right, had been captain of HIS TEAM for a long time, but he says himself that he didn’t want to take the heat in case they failed, so it was easier to just abdicate his responsibility.
Not that I would expect anything less of you to equate that to “leadership and class”.
LOL.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Why the fuck does Puckdaddy let Lambert have a job? The dude is a giant asshat and a clown. I have yet to see him publish anything with anything interesting to say, just 100% smarmy dickishness and sarcasm. I get that blogging is about the most sarcastic medium in the history of the human communication, but this guy just has nothing whatsoever to offer. What a douche.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 10, 2010 7:41 PM PDT reply actions
Hey Lambert, as usual, you are a dollar short and a day late. The Kovalchuk thing has been done to death and the Naslund thing has it’s own blog. I think it was from two days ago. Thanks again for being useless and redundant….kinda like the signing of Jokinen by your beloved Flames.
Probably my favorite comment on that article. Pretty much sums him up.
An average total of 96.26 points from 2000 to 2008, and an average finish 6.7th. Unreal stuff. Oh, and a whopping two postseason series wins in that time.
Is that supposed to be a knock on him? Because that’s pretty damn good. Like someone said earlier, the post-season success is the team as a whole.
He must write articles like this because his Lames are going to miss the post-season again with the “unreal” signings Sutter can pull off.
Guy F
Over there is a pretty knowledgeable commenter, and actually has wit too. I don’t know why he keeps going strong there, must like the punishment
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I just don’t understand why Wysh keeps him. Everyone else on Puck Daddy is good. Lambert has got nothing to offer.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 10, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
What really bugs me about his columns is that they are all written with such thick sarcasm/mocking that he can easily say “oh you just don’t get the sarcasm/irony” if you criticize it.
The one column that royally pissed me off was his “What we learned” after Canada won the gold. He basically just mocked the team, and all Canadians, for being “obviously better and why are you so surprised they won”, when before the game him and everyone else were rubbing their hands together over the fact that USA had a chance to beat us. Can you imagine what kind of drivel he would have spouted if we lost?? Talk about doomed if you do/doomed if you don’t. And whenever anyone wanted to point out his obviously hurt feelings bleeding through the piece, the response was “oh you don’t get the joke”.
END rant
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Lambert
is failbert.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 11, 2010 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Why does Wysh keep him?
Look how much we are talking about him. Ass holes and idiots create comments.
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by Section 312 on Jul 11, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that's true
We’ve fallen into the trap!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
You hear that Seanberg?
Flames are missing the dance!
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 11, 2010 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, I can’t hear you.
Are you talking to me?
Are you talking to me?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 11, 2010 3:22 AM PDT up reply actions
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