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Catching Up With Our Friends In Calgary

With Mason Raymond on the books and the Kevin Bieksa hammer having yet to drop, Vancouver's activities this summer look to be at an end. Maybe a bottom six guy is coming via the Bieksa deal, maybe not. Maybe some fringe guys will show up in camp (I'm looking at you Dave Scatchard), maybe not. So with Vancouver's roster set for the most part let's check out what the rest of our Northwest neighbors have been up to this summer.

Starting with everyone's favorite team to bust on, the Flames. At the end of last season, there were whispers of a straight-up demolition brewing in Calgary - from Sutter to Jarome Iginla and everyone in between - but cooler heads prevailed and they brought back some familiar faces to help kick start their putrid offensive production.

That's a relatively important point because if the Flames can just learn to score again they should be right back in the thick of things with Colorado & Vancouver...and now that I wrote that it'll of course be Minnesota and Edmonton duking it out at the top in April...

Star-divide

Here's a quick snap shot of what the Flames have done:

The Good

> Signed Alex Tanguay to a one year, $1,700,000 deal - Just like we need to forgive some of Keith Ballard's horrific looking numbers while in Florida (at ES in particular), so too with Tanguay. While in Tampa his point production and shooting percentage both tailed off from his respectable career averages, averages mind you that have smoked the Canucks thanks to stints in Colorado and Calgary. I don't believe there is reason to be concerned about his left shoulder which limited him to 50 games two seasons ago in Montreal.

> Signed Olli Jokinen to a two year, $6,000,000 deal - Some may still be laughing at this and Sutter's gamble looks pretty foolish in hindsight, but getting pumpkin head back in the mix isn't a terrible move either. $3 million per isn't a bad for a guy who hasn't scored less than 50 points since 2002. Whether or not he regains his form is another matter but this strikes me as a low risk / high reward type deal, especially if he's sheltered with second, third or - if need be - fourth line duties. Put him out there against Ryan Kesler though and he could become the type of big ticket player fans end up wanting to shoot out of a cannon into the sun.

> Waiving Ales Kotalik - At what point in the not to distant future does the name Ales Kotalik become synonymous with 'train wreck'? This guy is eating up cap space when they are perilously close to the limit; no idea where he should end up, but probably not at a NHL arena near you anytime soon.

The Bad

> Signed Raitis Ivanans to a one year, $600,000 deal - Poor Raitis needs Derek Boogaard's agent. This may just annoy me from a philosophical standpoint since I honestly don't see why players like Ivanans are worth employing. If he wants to display his PIM-heavy, career -39 craft to to good use when Vancouver drops by, by all means. Maybe the worst part about Ivanans is it may force Vigneault to actually dress Darcy Hordichuk which is horrifically depressing.

Why Can't He Be A Canuck?

> Rene Bourque - My Flames man crush, Bourque is an absolute pleasure to watch. His speed and shot are one thing, but the fact he damn near had 60 points by going up against the opposition's best players is another. An extremely underrated player who can't get off the Flames fast enough for my liking.

Areas Of Concern

> Daymond Langkow's recovery from neck surgery is reportedly slow at best. If he can't make the start of the season, it'll rob Iginla of his pivot but also open up the door for someone like Jokinen, Matt Stajan or potentially prospect Mikael Backlund to fill the void.

> Jay Bouwmeester. This may be the biased part of me showing, but I'd want to see a better season out of my nearly $7 million dollar anchor than what 2009-10 provided. Granted much of Bouwmeester's struggles weren't all his fault, but he needs to start scoring at ES and PP (his shooting percentage sunk nearly 6% between Florida and Calgary). Chances are he should see an increase in both in 2011.

Possible Lines (gleamed from Matchsticks & Gasoline)

Alex Tanguay - Daymond Langkow - Jarome Iginla

Rene Bourque - OlliJokinen - Niklas Hagman

Curtis Glencross - Matt Stajan - David Moss

Raitis Ivanans - Ryan Stone / Brett Sutter - Tim Jackman

 

Jay Bouwmeester - Robyn Regehr

Mark Giordano - Cory Sarich

Steve Staios - Adam Pardy

*Ian White (RFA)

 

Miikka Kiprusoff

Henrik Karlsson

Sly Prediction

White has his arbitration date in two days and the decision from that could force some cost cutting moves.

On paper they seem like a stronger team, but if some of the forwards don't live up to their billing (or should we say their billing from a few seasons ago...hint hint) then it'll get tough for the offense to truly improve. If they can pull off another blockbuster trade for a younger, proven scorer I'd be far more nervous. Iginla should continue to be a headache.

Bouwmeester and Regehr need bouncebacks and Giordano just has to keep doing what he's doing. Kiprusoff - who had a solid season in 2010 - will need to follow it up with at least a respectable one. If he suddenly gets a case of the 7uongo's, they'll have to run with an Karlsson who's unproven at the NHL level.

The talent is there, but will the execution follow? My hunch says yes, but then again, I was a Steve Bernier fan...sigh.

For more on Calgary from those who cover them, do check out M&G or Flames Nation; you can't go wrong anywhere you see Kent Wilson's name. However, if you go to Bleacher Report, may God have mercy on your wretched soul.

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It's interesting

The Flames don’t have a single first-line centre, but they have three second-line centres in Langkow, Jokinen, and Stajan.

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by skeeter_dan on Jul 28, 2010 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Like Vancouver has three #3 defensemen!

Or so I keep reading…

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I keep seeing it as

“A bunch of top 4 defensemen”

So your sources rate them higher apparently!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jul 28, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as we’re clear…we have no #1 blueliner. Which you don’t need when you have an elite goalie…

(crickets chirping)

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like you today.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

whaaa?

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude, what’s with your not liking people lately? first Chuckles, then Yankee. are you PMSing or something?

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by missy on Jul 28, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a lawyer thing.

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by Smoboy41 on Jul 28, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Legal PMS

Oh the paperwork…

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bazinga!

A creep from the cradle, but a hero's what I want to be

by Smoboy41 on Jul 28, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dissing my boy Lu. Me no-likey.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Conflict is good! Life’s boring without it. So are movies. How fun would Star Wars be if Luke and Darth had a happy father-son thing the entire time.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Luuuke, you are my boy blue.

He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine

by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 28, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Conflict? Imagine if I came on here and said that Star Wars is over rated. That would result in conflict. Napalm death, actually.

Yeah, I don’t think I wanna go there.

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by Smoboy41 on Jul 28, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHY SO SERIOUS

Beantown and I disagree on Arcade Fire.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 28, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still on the fence on this whole “you need a #1 guy” thing. There have been teams in the past who have gone all the way without a true #1, instead having a strong core of guys who can split the work and not have a truly exploitable D-pair on the ice ever.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jul 28, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Case in point, the Canadiens of the late ’70s. Out of Robinson, Savard and Lapointe, who would you call #1?

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by Smoboy41 on Jul 28, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

The ’06 Hurricanes

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jul 28, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good example. I just looked on Hockeydb to see who made up the Canes’ D. Wow.

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by Smoboy41 on Jul 28, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frantisek!!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 28, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The good Kaberle!

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by Smoboy41 on Jul 28, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean the defensively responsible Kaberle :)

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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 28, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s so good he’s playing in the Czech Republic

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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 28, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frantisek

is so hot right now in the Czech Rep.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 28, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they “breakfight” over there?

reLAX…Don’t do it…when you…."

by vancitydan on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT IS THIS

A CENTRE FOR ANTS?!

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 29, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well they have 3 #1 guys. We have zero. I prefer their committee! Mind you that team won because they scored five hundred gazillion goals every game.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Langkow is healthy. As for Jokinen, I’m still in denial about that and the Tanguay signing.

He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine

by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 28, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The beauty is that right now we’ve got five(if you count Bieksa) d-men who can put up forty points a season. Not too shabby, especialy if Ehrhoff reproduces last season’s numbers and Edler continues to improve. I’m not worried about not having a Keith, Lidstrom, Pronger or Doughty. I’d love to have a player like that, but I think we’ll be okay.

by Sandwich76 on Jul 28, 2010 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

true

but it’s important to keep in mind that pretty much all our guys are offensive-minded D, and what we really need is a very strong stay-at-home guy. having D that can score lots doesn’t help when they can’t adequately keep the other team from scoring….

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by missy on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would laugh so hard...

…if SOB literally went out on the ice and started grabbing Flames’ players around the ears and started knocking their heads together. I’m picturing it in my head right now: immediately after doing so, he skates around on one skate, shooting his guns in the air. Pew pew pew!

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by skeeter_dan on Jul 28, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bang bang

SOB shoots again.

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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 28, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's what they want

It seems pretty clear that MG’s philosophy is to get as many “puck moving” defenseman as possible and not worry about getting old school, clear the crease type guys. I don’t know if it’s right or wrong but we’re gonna find out next season if having a bunch of quick d-men who move the puck quickly from their own zone and can contribute offensively is the way of the new NHL or if we need more classic stay at home defenseman. Cause right now that’s what our top 5 is made up of no matter which way you pair them.

by Canuckelhead on Jul 28, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing with the guys you mentioned is that there’s only so many to go around. I would love for the Canucks to have a workhorse like Pronger or a cerebral guy like Lidstrom, a guy who could play half the game and still dominate, but there’s not that many players of that caliber available.

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by skeeter_dan on Jul 28, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo. They’re all taken, and no team willingly gives up those players. Those players change teams only when they want to change teams. Or their team can’t afford the $$$.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I totally agree, there aren’t many guys like that around, and I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for one either, it would be nice to see one of our prospects turn into a game changer like that.

by Sandwich76 on Jul 28, 2010 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

Those kind of guys rarely make it to UFA, as you want to hold on to one for as long as you can, and then they’ll cost you an arm and a leg in a trade.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jul 28, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I applaud you yankee

for being able to write a piece about the flames that isn’t dripping with sarcasm and venomous, thinly veiled insults. God knows I wouldn’t be strong enough to do so…

Agree on bourque…bourque and iginla are the only flames that don’t make me want to punt a kitten.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 28, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ll keep my impulsive stuff to the gameday threads. As best I can anyway…

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well…maybe Gio and White…but who would have thought everyone would be dismissing the 7 mil dollar man?

To think how much I wanted J-Bo back then!

by vancitydan on Jul 28, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That team has no excuse not to make the playoffs. If they come together as a cohesive unit they should make the dance, and make Chuckles cry

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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 28, 2010 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Third line looks solid-ish. Top 2 lines though leave something to be desired in my opinion. Iginla is obviously pretty good same with Bourque. The other 4 seem to be as pretty streaky. They could be good but they can also be really bad. Their defense is pretty solid. If their top 4 guys eat up most of the minutes then they should be in good shape. Kipper is still pretty solid. I think their main concern will be putting the puck in the net.

by marcness52 on Jul 28, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Flames won't make the playoffs

and I don’t cry! :P

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 28, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the day

when nearly all canadian teams were making the playoffs. Now the only good one is the canucks. Thank god for that one though!

by TrevorS on Jul 28, 2010 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

We’re not the Canadian team who made the Conference finals last year… let’s not got too full of ourselves.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 28, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes I agree with Beantown

MTL played very well.

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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 28, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Un rec'd

For overconfidence.

We’ve won exactly jack all like ever.

Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.

"You had to have the BIG salad."
"Suit up."
"Eric, when your mom says are you ready for your catheter...the answer is no."

by Jevant on Jul 29, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’ve won the Clarence Campbell trophy twice.

by marcness52 on Jul 29, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great post on the Flames.

I’d take Iggy and Bourque. No one else. I can’t wait till they miss the playoffs and Sean will declare me the one and only TRUE ORACLE.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 28, 2010 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m buying you Kleenex for Xmas

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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 28, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think it’ll take that long?

by Thursday on Jul 28, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, I won’t get too cocky

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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pffft

It will be I, buying you kleenex, my friend.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 28, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think a nice monogrammed hankerchief would make for a much more personal gift.

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by Smoboy41 on Jul 30, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  


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