Canucks Re-Sign Mason Raymond
by missy on Jul 26, 2010 12:24 PM PDT
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What a pleasant way to wake up in the morning. I opened my Twitter to check headlines before posting an Open Ice (which I'll just incorporate into this post today), and I see this report from Sportsnet being tweeted (which Botchford from the Province just confirmed):
The Vancouver Canucks avoided arbitration with left winger Mason Raymond on Monday, signing him to a two-year, $5.1 million deal.
The 24-year-old had 25 goals with 28 assists in 82 games last season in a breakout season.
Raymond will make $2.5 million this season and $2.6 million in 2011-12.
MayRay was supposed to have his arbitration hearing today, but tweets are reporting that the two parties agreed to a deal just outside the door to the room where the arbitration hearing would have been held. Dreger from TSN says that Gillis flew in from Vancouver, and they made the deal just minutes before the hearing.
UPDATE (12:21 PM): Our updated reality is below.
UPDATE (11:48 AM): Raymond talks to Pratt and Taylor about his new deal.
UPDATE (9:43 AM): Finally, the official press release from the Canucks.
Here's a topic for today: What do you think of the signing?
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What do I think?
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 26, 2010 8:28 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
DarrenDreger
Credit to Mike Gillis. Flew in from Van on Sat, met with JP Barry and Mason Raymond on Sun. Closed deal this morning mins before hearing.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 8:30 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT!
I was hoping for no more than $3 mill, and this was my dream price-range. Excellent! Go GMMG!!!!!!!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 8:30 AM PDT reply actions
Now we can fit the current team under the cap so long as Salo is on LTIR. Or if we want more help on the bottom six, we can still trade Bieksa. Trade Bieksa and we can afford another player for about $1 – $1.5 mill and still be fine when Salo returns.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 8:33 AM PDT reply actions
Aren’t we now 3.5 million over the cap?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
once CapGeek has their data updated, people can rosterbate once again.
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Now we can fit the current team under the cap so long as Salo is on LTIR.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought LTIR was treated differently. Not the whole salary, only part.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
From what I understand, LTIR means that you can replace that salary during that time with someone else, but if you DON’T do that, you don’t get any carry-over cap relief.
E.g. normally cap is added up each game. So if you are $1 mill under the cap for the first 41 games of the season, you have space to acquire someone worth $2 mill for the remaining 41 games.
However, if you are right at the cap but someone who gets paid $1 million is injured for 41 games on LTIR, during the time he is injured, the team can go over the cap by $1 million. But if they DON’T do that, they don’t get to carry that space over later. Does that make sense?
At least that was my understand from discussions I had about this a couple years back. I haven’t read through the CBA on this point.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
It just depends on how much of the season Salo ends up playing. If he comes back in November, we’ll have to free up space for him then. We’re under the cap for the start of the season though.
by Moose Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Great summary on Capgeek
of how the LTIR functions in terms of cap management.
http://www.capgeek.com/faq.php
Spoiler alert: It’s one of the most misunderstood parts of the CBA. I thought it was much different than it is.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 26, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that’s basically what I was saying.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the link!
Teams receive cap relief when a player is considered to have a “bona-fide long-term injury” — injuries that cause a player to miss at least 10 games or 24 days. This is one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of the CBA.
Just because a player is on LTIR does not automatically grant the team extra cap space. In the event a player is placed on LTIR, his cap hit still counts toward the team’s overall cap payroll. Relief only comes if replacing the player’s salary pushes the team’s cap payroll to date over the cap. The amount of relief is limited to the amount the team has gone over the cap, not the entire amount of the injured player’s salary.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it looks pretty good. Ditch Alberts and Hordichuk and we're okay...
FORWARDS
Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Mason Raymond ($2.550m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
Jannik Hansen ($0.825m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.666m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m)
Victor Oreskovich ($0.575m) / Joel Perrault ($0.510m) / Rick Rypien ($0.550m)
Tanner Glass ($0.625m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)
Kevin Bieksa ($3.750m) / Shane O’Brien ($1.600m)
Aaron Rome ($0.750m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) /Cory Schneider ($0.900m)
CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $90,000
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,975,000; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,275,000
by Moose Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:48 AM PDT reply actions
and what happens with Salo’s return?
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Ya.. I know… something’s gotta give. I just still hope Bieksa has more juice in him. I’ve always loved the guy’s game. He’s probably gone.
Maybe we can trade Juice and sign Mitchell as people have talked about on here.
by Moose Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Good stuff...
…but I’d still like to see a Bieksa trade and the vague hope of a Arron Asham depth signing
before the summer’s over.
Basically we can now afford to trade Bieksa for a third line player that makes $1.5 mill. Or somehow get rid of Bieksa and acquire such a player, regardless if it is in the same transaction. And this is regardless of what happens with the Salo situation. This is good news.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions
Brilliant
I think it was almost a certainty that if Clarke MacArthur got 2.4 million, Raymond was going to get 2.5 or greater. Great signing.
Nice to have this domino fall. I would anticipate the rest of the offseason will start moving for the Canucks a little more quickly now.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
I dunno about that. There’s no basis for urgency on our end. We should move at the pace of urgency of other teams. What we want is teams desperate for Bieksa, and to leave the impression that we’re in no desperate need to dump him. GMMG seems very good at playing such games.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I should probably clarify. I expect that Gillis was waiting until the Raymond situation was resolved before he really did much else this offseason. Now that it’s dealt with, I assume he will start actively participating.
If I was him, I would have been saying “I’ll get back to you once the Raymond situation is resolved.”
Now that that’s out of the way, he’s got more freedom (IE – he knows exactly how much money and room he’s got to play with).
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
"I’ll get back to you once the Raymond situation is resolved."
I agree with you Jevant, seems like Gillis tries to take things step by step and then explore every option to get things done (see Luo, Sedins, Burr, Kes, Ballard trade, UFAs Hamhuis and Malholtra, now MayRay) before hopping onto the next step.
I would expect he would explore every option for our D still, and that would include bringing back Mitchell at the right price. I dunno how, but GIllis is starting to blaze a very nice track record, I LIKE THIS!!
by nucklinBadger on Jul 26, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, it’s called HAVING A PLAN and I’m glad we have a GM that has one. Unlike Sutter, Darryl or Sather, Glen.
Poutine & Meatballs
Oh they have plans. Unfortunately they seem to have drawn them up in a parallel universe. You see Sather’s after Frolov apparently? Probably wants to use him as bait to get Joininen back.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Jokinen, that is.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Scary. Way too scary.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
And the Flames have hired a “mental development coach”.
No, I’m not going to comment on that. That’s too easy.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
You see Sather’s after Frolov
and it looks like it’ll be a 1 yr (possibly 2) signed tonite. Unbelievable.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Sather
is losing his fucking mind.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I might possibly have some issues with
your choice of the word: “losing”.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
ahem
Lemme try that again.
Sather has LOST his fucking mind.
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ding Ding Ding Ding
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
how is he still employed? He reminds of Steinbrenner on Seinfeld.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know but it makes me think he’s got something really incriminating on somebody.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps
he is holding Dolan’s family hostage in his basement.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It might be something to do with the cigars…
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It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure Sutter has a plan – I just think he’s bad at execution.
Sather… Holy fuckballs. I have no frikkin’ clue what that guy’s doing, and I don’t think he does, either.
Very succinctly put. I notice you seem to have about as much frikkin’ clue as I do as to what Sutter’s plan is.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone
know what Sather’s plan is? How can a man be allowed to run a storied franchise so deeply into the ground without reprimand or termination?
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
cuz the rags are just there to keep msg warm for the knicks
why would dolan care if the rags suck, as long as they keep bringing in $$$$$$$$$$$. dolan doesn’t even seem to care that the knicks suck.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait the Knicks still play basketball? I live a 10 minute walk from Madison Square Garden, and you could have fooled me!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Do they still have
Ewing?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I swear
The guy’s signings are almost random. At least Biron was cheap, and that’s a good pick-up, but Boogaard! At least Shelly could play an occasional shift, and cost a damn sight less, too. Sather muttered something about getting younger, then trades Hillier (and Voros) for Eminger? I mean, I suppose Eminger will help that defence, but it’s not really something to be proud of, is it?
Somehow, I don’t think defence is the real problem when your depth chart has Boogaard on the third line and Dubinsky as the top centre…
And picking up McIrath 10th overall was, uh… Wow. Looking for big bodies, but why on Earth would he pass up the much more difficult to find skill for it?
There
are mushrooms in his cigar.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I KNEW it was the cigar!
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Then again, Holmgren snapped up Shelley. Very popular move over on BSH, that.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
At least
Shelley isn’t Boogaard.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny story, Havlat is taking his #24 back in Minnesota now that Boogaard has left. Guess he was too afraid to ask him for that number when he got there last year. Can’t say I blame him.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
See Mrs. Havlat don’t raise no fools. That Marty is one smart boy.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't
ask this guy if I could have his number. I could probably out-skate him though.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
A giraffe could outskate him. But not outgoon him…that would take a baboon.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Only Clarkie
and May Day themselves could out-goon him.
Ignore the Lifehouse and look at that fucking dangle by May Day. Sweet Jesus.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
srsly?
my god, flyers fans really do revel in the past, don’t they? that guy blows dick.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The second coming
of Bobby Clarke.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey. enough with the Avery quotes already.
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It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
?
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Think about it.
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It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Go on over to BSH and post something like “Homer is a Cap Master and Trade Genius” and then run like hell and watch them erupt. Hilarious.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, were you being facetious earlier? mbad, didn’t pick up on it.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I was, but do post and run. They are seriously ready to do the torch and pitchfork thing over there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1KeyEARBU
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
well good for them. i figured with the rep the flyers (and their fans) have as been goon-it-up types, they’d love the shelly signing.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I could be wrong on this — it’s pure speculation, I admit — but I have the sense that CC might agree with us on Sather. Don’t hold me to that. I’ll deny it. But I think I might be right here.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa whoa whoa
I would never sully the good names of Glen Sather and Jim Dolan.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Let us all drink out of our pimp cups.
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by eightyseven on Jul 26, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
YES!
Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes!!!
I think I might be happy about this. Maybe.
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you sure look like it…..
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I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
On the other hand, you didn’t sign Kovalchuk. That must be some consolation at least. Talk about dodging a bullet.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha! I wish I could hire you to talk some people off the ledge. Though I’m not one of them.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
I know he’s a great O talent but to me he’s just not worth that many $ for that long.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Bonus: Frolov is gone too!
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He has puck possession skills, which is why they teamed him with Handzus. It’s not all about offense.
Kovalchuk might have been a case of hitchin’ our wagon to the wrong star. It all depends. I don’t see how he’d have gotten along better with our coach, as Frolov was better defensively. Terry Murray probably would have said: “Okay, everyone, I need a total team buy-in to the system, complete commitment…except you, Kovy. Just rush up the ice and shoot pretty.”
Ehh…
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Frolov has the skillset, but he didn’t bring it to the rink consistently I thought. I like the every shift types.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Then you'll love
this Alex Burrows fellow we’ve got.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Interestingly enough, I do like Alex Burrows. No accounting for taste, am I right?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well. There’s definitely a lot of varied opinions. I don’t think they would trust a player who didn’t “bring it” with a shutdown role, which they often did. Now he seems sour on us. Not surprised.
There are critical things you could say about him — but he was never making crazy salary, so I think he was worth it. After his 30+ season on the first line, they seemed to want more (after putting him on the third line, to boot).
In Dinglebarn We Trust
I trust Dean Lombardi’s judgement on this one. As you say, it wasn’t the money necessarily. Love to be a fly on the wall sometimes.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
As an aside
I’m dying to see how Ryan Lambert says that this was a terrible deal for the Canucks. Or insults it in some way. You know it’s coming. Lambert can’t help himself.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
the “What We Learned” was posted too early this morning. he focused on Salo.
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I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
i only ever quickly scan through to see what he says about the nucks.
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I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
He also made a comment about we all know Crosby is a better MVP candidate than Sedin.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Lol good to see he’s a good reporter AND timely.
Seriously, I wonder if guys like him and cox look in the mirror and have pride in their work. If so they must have real low standards. Note to wysh: If you need someone to write who pisses people off, at least pick someone who has some hockey knowledge, and if you can’t find that find someone who can at least write a bit.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 26, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Best way to frustrate an “attention whore” is to ignore him.
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It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Works on me every time.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 26, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
No comment. :)
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I would think a GM good enough to sign Raymond for 2.5 ( when people were talking about 3 and 4 mil )…had earned being called by his real name, not some yoata nomenclature.
You meant Mike Gillis, right Missy?
;-)
by vancitydan on Jul 26, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
well, “Gillisgan” has caught on.
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I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
When you pronounce it, it makes me think of Genghis Khan. But I’m guessing he meant it in the Stephen King way.
i think more of Gilligan’s Island.
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The Skipper. too?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Although he does bear a slight resemblance to an older creepier gilligan, it’s too derisive to have caught on for anyone but the haters and you. I’m with Van City on this one.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
It is not that huge of a deal…but I have always thought that was an insult to the guy…Gilligan?
And really, without turning it into a debate, cuz I know you were just having a little fun, we can come up with a better nickname than something one person tries to use as an insult!
I like the Genghis Khan reference…pillaging his way through the NHL…
Not some first mate that can’t find his way off an island only 3 hours from the mainland!
;-)
I like GMMG. looks cool, sounds cool
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s GMGM’s evil brother!
I'm gonna pain you dearly Woodhouse, when I peel all your skin off with a flensing knife, sew it into Woodhouse pajamas, and then set those pajamas on fire.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 26, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
McPhee
and Gillis, two brothers, separated at birth. One fights for evil, one fights for good.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is which again? This “evil twin” plot manipulation always throws me.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD08whMsz6E
Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!
Love it. Sort of Ramones meet The Clash.
(No, not Arcade Fire which sucks or rocks depending on who you ask.)
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
The beard is a dead give away. Usually one wears gloves and the other doesn’t.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but the evil one is…ummm…evil, and he could make it appear that the good guy had the beard and gloves. What about the horns? And the pointy tail?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget
some sort of mask will be worn by the bad guy. Or is it the other way around? Im confused now.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, I know.
/wrings hands, glances around nervously looking for a hero
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Open Ice
Dreger says NHLPA has filed a grievance re: Kovalchuk contract.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 10:30 AM PDT reply actions
Great news!
I was really worried that MayRay would head to arbitration and be awarded something over $3M. I’d almost say this a bit of a steal for Gillis, since most people here were hoping for 2.7-2.8M. Awwwwwww Yeeaaaahhh
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This is an excellent signing
Now if Bieksa can end up with a mysterious skate laceration and trade LTIR positions with Salo we could be stacked going in to the play-offs.
Just saying with their injury track record it’s not out of the realm of possibilities…
Mayray
Was a Canadian Twitter trending topic. Methinks we’re missing hockey (duh).
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yep, he was right at the top for a while.
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Maybe I am grumpy this morning
but I have no feelings on this signing right now. It seems a reasonable contract and probably less than he would have got in arbitration but he is still a guy who has had one decent season but was still prone to long ass scoring droughts. If he progresses in the next 2 years and becomes more consistent this is a great deal. If he doesn’t? For some reason I still am not sold on Raymond.
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he had a break out year last year
but he hasn’t proven he can produce consistently at the NHL level yet
If he doesn’t?
Even if he doesn’t improve where he’s at now, and simply plateaus immediately, isn’t $2.55m pretty reasonable for a 2nd line guy who can get you 25 goals, 50ish points and some good PK? Samuelsson is 2.5. Burrows is 2 (albeit probably a bit underpaid).
I think Raymond would have to regress to make this a bad signing, no?
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
That's if he plateaus
but until a guy does something more than once I am not convinced.
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough.
I’m personally happy because I feel like this is a good deal considering the current NHL climate, and less than what I was worried Raymond was going to be awarded, which either would have resulted in an extremely difficult decision for the Canucks. This is certainly something that can be lived with, which is reason for celebration in my books.
Here’s hoping Raymond continues to improve.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
Yeah, Mason Raymond is still really young…he could have a bad year pts wise and still be worth this money if he continues to work on his two way game; I agree that he has only been really good once so far, but this isn’t a 32 year old who’s shuffled around 3rd lines his whole career then had one good year, this is a kid still improving his game. And if you listen to him speak, he’s got a great attitude and calm nature about him, he doesn’t sound like someone who could easily lose all his confidence. This is a great contract for the Canucks cuz it’s fairly low dollar value and for Raymond cuz it’s fairly short term. I’m concerned about keeping him in two years, though.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
In 2 seasons he might be
superfulous. With Schroeder and Hodgson we might not need Raymond in two years. You never know he may even be moved at the deadline next year depending on how those two are developing and what the team might need. Not saying it’s likely but he could end up being moved the way Grabner was. You never know.
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
But then Sammuelson is on his last year. Schroeder replaces Sammy, hopefully, right? Entry level contract for Schroeder means hopefully we can afford MayRay’s next increase?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Will Hodgson be playing in 2 years? I haven’t heard anything on his status since he missed the prospects camp. What’s up with him?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Who knows anymore
I am not sure if I even think he will be around and contributing in 2 years. Just pointing out the slight folly in worrying about how we can afford a player 2 years from now. The cap should be higher and as mentioned the team will look different. Hodgson? Could be a Calder winner this year and could spend the entire season injured. Who knows?
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Barring injury, or some top 6 player sucking his way into the doghouse and CoHo rising at the same time, this team doesn’t seem to be built to give CoHo an opportunity to contend for the Calder should he make the roster. I can see why he would be frustrated.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I wasn’t questioning your intent on using him as an example. Just suddenly thought “Hey that’s right. What’s up with him. Haven’t heard a word.”
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah I know what you meant
I just can’t speak to that cause I don’t think any of us really know how healthy he really is.
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, although I did indeed say i’m concerned about keeping him in two years, I definitely meant it fairly lightly. I’m not worried about losing him in two years, really, I was just saying it may be harder to keep him then. Whether we need or even want him or not didn’t really come into my mind, although I didn’t communicate that very well. I like MayRay, but if it were two years from now today and he wanted 5 million simoleans, after two more years similar to this past one, I’d say trade him.
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Oh no sorry I wasn't
trying to be a dick or say you were being an idiot or anything. I hope it didn’t come across like that. You are right it might be harder to keep him in 2 years in that he might be worth 4-5 million a season. But hopefully we will have a cup win by then and I think we can trust that GMMG will know what to do.
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With Schroeder and Hodgson we might not need Raymond in two years.
The centres still need someone to pass to. Our middle should be just fine; it’s the outsides that need work.
Well there is no way our team will have
Sedin
Kesler
Hodgson
Schroeder
as the 4 centers so one or both of them would have had to have moved to the wing.
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Schroeder’s apparently had some time at wing, and while I think one of them will be up this year, we’ll have to see if two of them can pull that off. There’s not a lot in the way of long-term contracts in the bottom six, and those are easy to move aside.
Yeah I just don't think
Hodgson and Schroeder especially can fill bottom 6 roles as well as they could fill top 6 roles.
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Sure
But I’d like to see if they can play the time there. Raymond wasn’t a second-line guy until last year, and I’m fine with that line of development.
Two years from now, maybe they’re ready, maybe not: but they shouldn’t be starting there if we have a sure thing there already. If they look skilled enough, they can have chances on the PP as well just like Raymond did.
Sedins were line 3 for a couple seasons before Cassels left and they got moved to line 2.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
that's a good point
I think one thing the canucks are trying to do right now is have a grittier 3rd line that can play really defensively and leave the scoring up to the top two lines.
This isn’t what they’ve always done in the past and may not do in the future depending on how it goes. Sometimes 3 scoring lines can win you a lot of games in the regular season, but it seems like grit really proves its worth in the post-season
Just ask the Caps
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Yeah, but...
…That grit has to be everywhere, not just in one line. I prefer a skilled third to grinders. But then I also like a fourth line that can play 10 minutes a game, so why not ask for the moon while I’m at it, right? 8)
In a cap world
it seems like the recipe for success has been top 2 lines with a lot of skill and scoring. Top 2 D pairs playing most of the minutes and then the rest of the lineup with older character guys and young guys trying to prove themselves. And you need grit on the 4th line and a balance of grit and some ability on the third line.
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Yeah but my point is
if they are good enough then play them there. Do you think that will happen this year? Do you think if Hodgson has a great camp and is flying and scoring and playing well he will slot in to the top 6 to start the year? I doubt it.
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Probably not, no. If, on the other hand, Raymond slips at all, or if he just doesn’t have the chemistry with Kesler and Samuelsson that they had last year, do you think he won’t be replaced? In a heartbeat.
Shirokov was supposed to push Raymond this season, and he got the time to try. Huge pre-season, nothing during the games that mattered, down he went. I have no problem with that.
This year’s got some bonus time at the front of it, too, with Burrows out for who knows how long.
good players making like league average are never superfluous
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure they are
if there are better players on your team doing a better job of the same role for less or equal money.
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by Section 312 on Jul 27, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Clowe
Just read this from the Botchford article:
"We were working off the Clowe deal," Barry said. "Mason had outscored (Clowe) before he signed his deal, although (Clowe) had played fewer games and that had to be factored in."
I know you can look at stats, but Clowe seems to be a completely different animal than MayRay. They bring different intangibles to their teams. Apples and oranges in my opinion. I’m glad he signed before arb.
Sweet Beans.
With that extra 500k, we’re in a great spot to pick up a depth player in the 1.5-2.5 million range, assuming Bieksa ships out.
Yup, although I would want it closer to 1.5 if possible… give us a little cap room to survive injuries, resting players, giving some time to reward strong play from kids from the Moose, etc, down the stretch.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
wyshynski
New Puck Daddy: NHLPA files grievance over Kovalchuk contract, wants quick result http://yhoo.it/d7tLmV
Personally I really hope the NLPA loses; if they win the whole idea of the salary cap will be done.
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Yes I also hope they lose, because we don’t have anyone we would want to sign using such contracts any more (we already pulled this sort of shit with Lu). So even though we’re one of the teams that doesn’t give a damn how much we spend, we don’t seem to be needing this tool in our toolshed for the foreseeable future, so let’s not let out competitors have it.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
that we used it to some extent with luongo, but let’s be serious…new jerseys deal with kovalchuk is absurdly blatant; at least luongos deal isnt such a flagrant cheat of the system…
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 26, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Hossa’s is a notch below, Lu’s is a notch and a half. NHL shouldn’t have allowed any of them
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
“Things the NHL shouldn’t have done…”
Now that’s a looong list.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s all about past precedent, in my opinion. No matter the severity of the Luongo or Hossa deals in comparison, nothing was done about those deals except for scare tactic investigation.
I think the NHLPA will win and this whole shiteroo has to be dealt with when the CBA expires.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Bettman’s going to lose the battle but win the war, do you think? “Win” by his definition, that is…you know, like the lockout.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Based on my analysis of the facts, and assuming there’s no secret recording where Kovy says “hehehe I’m going to retire at 38, suck on that Bettman” and Lamoriello says “yes! we’ve succesfully circumvented the cap system with this contract, as per our intention!”, I still don’t think it’s a clearcut win for the NHLPA. NHL has a clear outline of a legitimate argument. There’s enough meat there for an arbitrator to rule either way, assuming both the League and PA’s lawyers make their respective cases competently.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
lol!
Kovy: “Look at me, Ilya Kovalchuk, signing this deal to age 44 knowing that I will retire at 37!”
Lou: “Yes! And I, Lou Lamoriello, General Manager of the New Jersey Devils, have successfully circumvented the salary cap!”
Grossman: “Hazah! Now let us retire to our hotel and celebrate our secretive, contractually fraudulent deal!”
by Timezone_Hater on Jul 26, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly
There should be an exception clause in the CBA. One player per team is not counted against the cap.
Sure this may give “Big Markets” the edge, but they already do in being able to sign more depth players, bury unwanted salary in the AHL, provide superior facilities, coaching, perks, etc.
If Kovalchuk is approved, it won’t kill the CBA, Mason Raymond and his peers are not getting 15 year deals, it’s the elites getting these deals. Saving 1-3 million of cap is good, but it doesn’t break the system.
I agree with you to a point…yes, this is currently only elite players getting this. That’s not the problem; it’s one of inevitable escalation. This is a concern to me…sure today it’s luongo and hossa and kovalchuk, but what happens when a team gets into a situation where they’re approaching the cap wall due to bad contracts and they start using loopholes like this to bury hits and buy those second tier elites? Cuz I believe that’s where the GM’s go next, and soon after that point the salary cap becomes a myth and a joke. I guess I’m subscribing to the ‘slippery slope’ mindset.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 26, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
heh, honestly, i’d love to see them retroactively overturn all these long silly deals (except pronger’s, because fuck you philly, you’re stuck with it). the nhl doesn’t have the stones, because they’d have to take away hossa’s cup, but it would be brilliant. also, i no longer love lu’s contract.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Somehow, I was privately hoping for a longer term deal, but Gillis did good in getting him to a contract on the low end.
Privately, we were all worried that he’d be awarded something like 3.25 or 3.5. Granted he only has one good year, so he might not get that much in arbitration, but still, I think we got him to the best-case scenario for the team.
If he can continue to improve, he’ll be able to cash in on a new contract in 2 years, and give his age, it’s not unreasonable to believe he could continue to improve.
We asked everyone on May 18 what they thought Mason Raymond’s value was. Some bang-on assessments in the comments thread.
I hadn’t read that before and noticed that in that post Chuckles said that Arcade Fire is terrible. This has now created a very uncomfortable rift between myself and Chuck and we may require counseling to sort this one out.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Arcade Fire
IS terrible. I don’t know why everyone loves them. Then again, I don’t care for Metric (prefer Emily Haines as a solo artist), so take my opinion on Arcade Fire with a grain of salt.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I choose to just take it as wrong :)
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It’s not that they’re especially terrible so much as they’re frighteningly bland. They’re the baseball of music.
see what I did there?
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I don’t find them bland at all. Watch them perform. There’s a huge range between their three albums and within each album. So nuts to you!
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by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Twitchy
thinks all the music I like is bland. To each his own. I find Arcade Fire to be incredibly layered music. I hear a song 10 times I might hear it differently each time. I react emotionally to the way their music builds and rises and falls and all of that good stuff. Twitchy doesn’t. I feel bad for him cause I think he is missing out but what can you do? He is just wrong!!
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Lol…
first of all, no I don’t think everything you like is bland. I think Arcade Fire is bland. Death Cab as well. They pretty much sound the same to me. Secondly, the reason I think arcade fire is bland is because that very dynamic you say you react emotionally to is missing completely from it. It’s flat…musically, lyrically, etc. Don’t tell me i don’t understand dynamic, what makes music good to me is dynamics, tension and mood. It’s why I can like some sub genres of (for example) heavy metal and not like others for example your typical death metal or black metal song is one flat dynamic the whole way thru…sure it’s aggressive, but it’s got no tension. Likewise pop. Likewise blues. Likewise jazz. It comes from being classically trained.
Anyways, the truest beauty in art is that it’s completely subjective, and much as it’s fun to tease people about different tastes, I’m pretty sure no one actually judges someone based on their musical or art likes and dislikes. Even country music fans.
I mean, it’s not like it’s as egregious as liking baseball…
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I didn't say you didn't understand
dynamics. I said you didn’t react to Arcade Fire the way I do. Nothing wrong with that. Some people don’t like Monet. I love his work. It is subjective. And there is no right or wrong answer. Except country seriously sucks.
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Heh… see, I love monet’s work too. And hate country music. I also don’t like U2 which always makes people scratch their heads…never have. Bono’s a great singer, yet his voice annoys the ever loving shit out of me. Don’t even know why, it just does. Yet I like ozzy’s voice. Go figure.
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I’m with you on U2. To me they are the Irish version of the equally annoying REM.
by British Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I like some individual U2 and REM songs
but never liked them as bands if that makes sense.
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It does…Where the Streets Have No Name doesn’t make me want to kick a puppy like other songs…likewise REM has like 1 or 2 songs I can listen to. It comes down to a stylistic fit with the music maybe. Dunno.
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Yeah like if certain U2 songs come on the radio
I can listen and even enjoy them. But I would never own an album of theirs. Just isn’t something I want to listen to for an hour.
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oh, fuck
i have no idea what it is about u2 (i may just hate really successful people), but they annoy the living shit out of me.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Er…btw when I said likewise pop blues and jazz I meant they all have subgenres I really like and some that bore me….
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Got something you might like...
I found this band a while ago and I always forget to tell people about it. It’s a band based out of Edmonton, I’ve only listened to their latest album, but it’s very impressive. Check out their myspace page (this is where I found them), and if you want I can give you the link to download the newest album, Blood Red Tape (the band’s name is Portal, and I have the album on my Dropbox account already).
http://www.myspace.com/portalband
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Being a 90’s guy i dig this for the most part. It does remind me alot of these guys thru most of it… mainly because of the dynamic and the types of samples they use.
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Hopefully David Poile points to this deal for Patric Hornqvist’s negotiations.
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yep
I already covered it this afternoon.
Basically, Hornqvist was better with worse teammates, but has a smaller track record – thus the deal should be just a tick higher than MayRay’s.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you guys rate Hornqvist (loyalties and $ aside)?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell me what you mean by ‘rate’, exactly, and I’ll be glad to answer your question :).
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you value him highly? What do you see as his best points? Do you want him as a longterm Predator?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I value him fairly high, though not extremely because he’s only performed well one year. I think that if he builds on what he was good at last year, and is able to play more than 15’/game, then he could score 40 goals.
If he pans out, sure, I’d like him on a long term deal – home grown goalscorers don’t come around that often. However, I’d like Poile to sign him to a short deal this time to see if he’s actually the real deal.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I liked what I saw with him. I see a lot of natural talent and a good work ethic given his limited icetime. I was a bit surprised he didn’t get more TOI but I liked the 80 game season for the good look at him.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
wasn’t Hornqvist benched a few times last season?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, that was the year before.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Only difference is, Hornqvist is line 1, top point scorer, top goal scorer, top +/- player on the team. Granted on a weaker offensive team. But that just means he got those points and those 30 goals without playing on a line without a 75-point-man like Kesler and a 30-goal-man like Samuelsson. I’m guessing 3 to 3.5 million. Maybe 4?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, some of that isn’t true. Hornqvist played on the second line most of the year with Steve Sullivan and Marcel Goc, and he did not lead the team in points – that was Martin Erat. He led the team in goals and +/-. Patric scored 30 goals playing 15:00/game – two less minutes than Raymond, two less games than Raymond, and with Marcel Goc centering him instead of Ryan freakin’ Kesler.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
and he did not lead the team in points – that was Martin Erat
I see Hornqvist with 51 points, Sullivan also with 51 (but less goals), and Erat with 49. So explain? I suppose Erat missed some games, but I wasn’t saying points per game (which has them close), but points.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh. Shows what I get for going off my memory. Thanks, and I obviously defer to your research.
The point remains, though.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re right he didn’t have top line minutes though. You’re team is structured so differently than the Canucks! I’m hoping Hamhuis brings good lessons with him to our team :)
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Hammer’s a hard worker, for sure. I just worry he’s in over his head up there.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, we’ve got the whole defense-by-committee thing going. I think we’re expecting him to have about the same role for us as he had for you… 22 min a game, pk and even strength.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically we’re a team of #3 d-men. We’ve got five of them. You’re lucky you’ve got two #1 d-men!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, exactly. You guys have loads of 3s.
Hands off Weber, btw. And Suter.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They might have more than that soon
Cody Franson is a beast.
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
True that. And Jon Blum, and Ryan Ellis, and Roman Josi, and Charles Olivier-Roussel, /takes breath.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
So why can't we have Weber then?
Seems like you could use some forwards. Let’s work something out.
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
You know he’s going to respond with something that includes “Sedins”, right?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d take Franson and/or Blum in a heartbeat, but then that’s my Giant bias shining through.
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They’re both fantastic players. Franson is a machine on the PP, and our AHL coach says that Blum is much better than Weber was at the same point in their careers.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Don Hay and Scott Bonner have quite the d-man factory going at the Coliseum.
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Yay for Connauton?
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure. Ryan Kesler, Cody Hodgson, Mason Raymond, 1st round pick, and Keith Ballard. :)
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Just saying “The Sedins.” would’ve done it.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t want the Sedins.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah guys who score 120 points
are overrated………
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Not overrated, they’re fantastic. I just don’t want them.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Between their ages and salaries, they wouldn’t work on the Nashville Predators. Its not a knock against them, more against us.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhh, I see. So this cap thingy is not quite all it’s cracked up to be?
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The self imposed cap sure isn’t. Pretty amazing we can get to 100 points only spending around 49m.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but you have pro sports best kept secret: Super Dave and Super Barry. How they miss on the props they deserve is beyond me.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Preachin’ to the choir, friend.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Well yes, but your comment needed qualifying. (no pun intended.)
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Cracked…yes. And the dam is about to burst, looks like.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Do the Preds have the money and just don’t want to spend it, or do they just not have the money, period?
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We don’t have the money. Recently, though, there’s a chance we could start spending to the cap. Look out, NHL.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Any more than you’d give up Weber…
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
How about Hodgson
Hansen, Schroeder, Sauve, Luongo, a 2nd and the rights to my first born child?
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh no. You can’t convince me to take Luongo off your hands for the 2nd best defenseman in the NHL.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought we were talking about Weber
do you guys have the right to trade Drew Doughty?
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
OK you two: top 5 D in order.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
As of today, July 26, with the admission Doughty may at one point surpass the others:
1. Duncan Keith
2. Shea Weber
3. Drew Doughty
4. Nick Lidstrom
5. Mike Green
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This list is flawed...
…without Shane O’Brien.
Wait, the five best? Nevermind, carry on.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey! I like Shane O’Brien. So do GMGM and HCAV it appears.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I enjoy his Roxy pics
And anytime Vigneault is angry at him.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet he stays…(Be fair though, AV is mad at most people most of the time. At least it looks that way to me.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting
S312 isn’t reponding so how about your 6-10?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking
I had to convince myself that leaving Pronger and Chara off the list had nothing to do with my hatred of them. Then I decided it didn’t matter.
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough. Worth waiting for. 6-10?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
that's tougher
6. Pronger
7. Chara
8. Myers
9. Seabrook
10. E. Johnson
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EJ gets some love! Good one. There is a very goodlooking crop of young D coming up…
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I am partial
to younger guys I guess. I flat out LOVE Erik Johnson’s game. I think he is unreal.
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I like that Karlsson in Ottawa and McBain in Carolina too. Young, but going to be very good, I think.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
6. Chris Pronger
7. Zdeno Chara
8. Ryan Suter
9. Dan Boyle
10. I DON’T KNOW! :p
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
10. Boyle?
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I have him ninth, because defensemen really drop off after the top eight or so.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking move him down or off. Nice understatement there.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
1. Keith
2. Doughty
3. Weber
4. Lidstrom
5. Boyle
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
1. Keith
2. Doughty
3. Weber
4. Pronger (hate him though)
5. Lidstrom (getting old)
6. Boyle
7. Chara
8. Meyers
9. Green
10. Suter
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
11. E. Johnson
12. Seabrook
13. Staal
14. Martin
15. Timonen
16. Rafalski
17. Leopold
18. Giordano
19. Ehrhoff
20. Hamhuis
Yeah it’s basically a gong show after the top 10. Lots of players could be intermixed here.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
No love for
Jack Johnson?
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No. I think he’s overrated. Didn’t like him at all when we played him in the playoffs… which made Doughty look all the more amazing. Maybe in a couple years. But right now he’s nothing special.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
One bad playoff round
his first I believe shouldn’t cloud your judgement of him. He is developing a little slower than I think we thought he would be he is special.
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Fair enough. I’m going on what I’ve seen so far. Not saying he doesn’t have potential. Just saying what I’ve seen right now. A year from now my list could be very different. One year ago, Lidstrom would have been #1 and Doughty wouldn’t have made the list at all.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
JJ’s got what it takes. It felt to me like it was a bit of personal maturity that was missing. I think we offten forget how young these guys are (he’s still inside his first pair of shoes…He’s so young…) and expect them to be exceptional people in all respects because they are in terms of hockey. He may not have everything DD does, but then how many have? He’s got it, he’ll bring it in time.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Give that boy some freedom!
Let him move around.
But don’t give him too much,
Or you’ll lose in the first round.
by Thursday on Jul 26, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Points for a nice pick up and improv, minus for implying JJ lost them the series! :)
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Not many people can both pick up a jerry doucette song and then have the added skillz necessary to make it into a parody. Well done.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
don’t listen to calgary’s retard fans. unless you’re including salary somehow (and even then I’m not sure), there’s no way giordano’s better than bouwmeester.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Remove Kesler and I’ll do it.
Hodgson, Raymond, 1st round and Ballard for Weber. Yes.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah. Not enough, plus I wanted Kesler to captain the team after Shea left!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Well if this Kovy thing gets overturned, our dolla-dolla-bill big spending owner might throw down a $200 mill 50 year contract at Weber, that pays $10 mill a year for the first 15 years. Let’s see your owner match that! Ha!
:)
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Former Vancouver Giant Jonathon Blum, might I add. Go Giants!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, that sounds better than what I’d been hearing. I was afraid he’d be expected to take on a no. 1-type role, and that wouldn’t have worked.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, he’ll take a #1 role in so much as our top 2 d-lines will probably share the ‘top’ load. So 1 of 4 of our guys who are our co-#1. If that makes any sense. Basically, we have a lot of good defensemen, but no great defensemen.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup. Might work, too.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Meanwhile you guys are ridiculously sick on D. If their development continues, it’s possible you might have the #1 pairing for team USA and #2 pairing for team Canada at the 2014 Olympics in your system right now.
Suter-Blum for USA,
Weber-Franson for Canada
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That is pretty amazing. Don’t forget Ryan Ellis, either. He’s pretty studly for Canada in WJCs.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Stil on the fence about him
and what he will be able to do in the NHL 5 on 5. Not sure he will ever be good enough to play for Canada with the likes of Weber, Doughty, Keith, Seabrook, M. Staal, etc etc ahead of him.
BTW, the US with E. Johnson, J. Johnson, T. Myers, R. Suter, Z. Bogosian, etc are going to be stacked on D for years to come.
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Yeah. Neither team has anything to worry about defensively.
Tyler Myers can only play for Canada, btw.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh really?
I thought I read somewhere he was born in the US?
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He was, that’s why I despise the dude. I think one of his parents is from Canada and he chose to suit up for Canada instead of us. Fucker.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup – won gold at the 2009 world juniors with team canada :D
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't blame him for that
if I had a choice I would have played soccer for England. So we could have:
Doughty – Weber
Keith – Seabrook
Myers – Boyle/Green
with Staal and others on the bubble
and you guys could have:
EJ – JJ
Bogosian – Suter
with the likes of Fowler, Blum, Carlson and others to fill out the bottom to spots and bench roles.
With Patty Kane, Kesler, JVR and others up front the USA Canada rivalry could be real good for the next 10-15 years. Real good.
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Side note – been enjoy your work on the soccer side of things at the Busby Babe. Even though I am a huge Man City supporter.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
oh thanks
I have to admit I haven’t been as focused on it as I would like. Moving at the end of the month and so no internet at home. I am going to be going at it pretty hard in August. I do want to find someone to carry the load over there with me as it’s easier, and better, if there is more than one voice.
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Yep. I’d love to be writing about football as well as the Predators, but I’m afraid a Man City fan at a United blog wouldn’t go well :p.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You could always switch
to the best club in the world? Why a Middle Eastlands fan anyway? You work at a gas station or something?
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I’m not sure how Sean and YC feel about us taking this so off topic, but essentially, Manchester City matched all my criteria when picking an EPL team to cheer for (can go into that if you’d like), and the first time I found an EPL game on TV, it was Manchester City.
And switching to the Red Devils now would be like me cheering for the Canucks. /barf.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm kind of a big deal around here
we can go as off topic as we like.
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Haha, fine with me. How’d you end up with Utd.?
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
My dad
a United fan since 6 February 1958. Followed them that year as a 9 year old all the way to the FA Cup final and still vividly remembers crying for hours after they lost that match. I didn’t have a choice but to support United.
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aha
At least its not some lame reason, like mine :).
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Talk about what you want…except golf.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
…what’s golf?
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
And country music. Oh…and baseball…no sports fan should ever talk about baseball in a sports context.
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No your right
most sports fans aren’t smart enough to talk baseball so best leave it to smarter folks!! ;)
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Yeah yeah baseball fans know stats, whoop-dee-shit. Wonder how well the typical baseball fan would do with NHL cap based rosterbating…we’d see the intelligence level then…
;)
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LOL
well it’s not just stats. Tell me what I should do with my defense and what pitch my pitcher should throw in a 2-2 count with a runner on 2nd leading by 2 in the 8th. It’s that kind of stuff that fascinates me and keeps me watching baseball.
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Tell me what I should do with my defense and what pitch my pitcher should throw in a 2-2 count with a runner on 2nd leading by 2 in the 8th.
IT DEPENDS ON WHO’S BATTING!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
My biggest complaint with baseball?
Intentional walks. The pitcher should just signal the guy to first. Why waste more time pretending to pitch a strike to him? Annoying.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell me what I should do with my defense and what pitch my pitcher should throw in a 2-2 count with a runner on 2nd leading by 2 in the 8th.
Well, either something he can’t hit that is called a strike or something that he’ll hit exactly where and how you want him to. That’s it, isn’t it? See, I’ve got his baseball thing down pat. As my Grandma used to say: “The rest is all hoohaw, and don’t let them tell you any different!”.
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Staal before Green. I can’t see Green ever making team Canada unless he ups his defensive ability a couple notches. What he offers offensively, Keith and Doughty can bring enough of.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I just had Green
as a direct replacement for Boyle, who is older, as the PP specialist type role.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Yeah but I think Doughty will be that roll. And better at everything else. Doughty will be a 60 point player next season I think.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Doughty is going to be the best D man
in the league if he isn’t already. I am talking about a 6th or 7th guy depending on the way the lineup is set up who literally just plays PP time and very little 5 on 5. Green is perfect for that. Doughty needs to be out there 25 minutes a night for Canada.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I don’t see why Team Canada needs that. If you’ve got 5 d-men who are on the #1 PP unit on their team, why get a PP specialist as well? I’d rather have an extra all-rounder (like Staal) who can be used in regular situations should any of the other d-men get injured.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well we did it with Boyle
and by the end of the tourny he was one of our top guys. Oh and we won gold. If it works for Babcock and Yzerman it works for me.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
You think Boyle was brought to be a PP specialist? So why didn’t they bring Green last time them… he’s got far better PP numbers. I think Boyle is better all-around, that’s why, not because of his PP-only ability.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
When the tournament
started he was the 7th D man. And he didn’t play much other than the PP in the first game or two.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Yeah but Boyle’s an all-around guy. Not Green. Green is offense only. Not necessary on team Canada. Necessary on NHL teams that all have less depth. But not on team Canada.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
OKyou are missing the point
On Team Canada at these past Olympics in Vancouver Boyle was brought in as the 7th guy almost exclusively to quarterback the PP and move the puck when Canada had a man advantage. He played really well and other guys weren’t playing well so he got more and more time and finished up as a top 4 guy. But the plan for Canada was to use him as the 7th guy and not use him much 5on5. So if they want to do that again then Green is the obvious choice.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
whenever I see Jack Johnson I think of Bulis’ ass.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry to hear that
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
What’ve you got against Jan?
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Bulis
knew how to play hockey? Madness.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
JJ scored a 9.9 on it. That was a 5.5 degree of difficulty dismount — the very rarely attempted face-squarely-into-ice with a twist. Or, as it’s more commonly known: The One Cheek Sneak.)
/staggers away clutching sides, screaming with laughter
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Marcel Goc
the German Ryan Kesler.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Good comparison, actually. Just worlds apart talent-wise.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Jannik Hansen
the Danish Alex Ovechkin.
by British Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Anze Kopitar
the Slovenian Wayne Gretzky.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
I love this. I wonder if that was used in the arbitration hearing.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
And this is for Burton about baseball
Let’s just say it’s Alfonso Soriano. Pitch in the dirt swing and a miss. Seriously though that’s why I love baseball. Maybe it’s a slider that starts off the plate and finishes off the plate. Maybe the outfield is playing no doubles while the infield is playing straight up. I love all the permutations.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I understand, and agree to an extent. Its just too slow.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 26, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It's perfect for North Americans
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
You should try watching
some test match cricket. Five days and it can still end in a draw. The only sport which stops for meal breaks. Awesome stuff.
by British Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I love cricket
we just don’t get much of it on TV. I followed the ashes via online text updates. My dad used to play for the local team which was probably the equivalent of a Sunday league football team.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
When I was in grade 7 I went to a country school in an already pretty redneck area. We had this teacher move in from england, and he promptly tried to start a cricket team. Tons of kids showed up to see…it lasted til it was pointed out that you had to catch that wooden ball with your bare hands. Then most everyone quit.
I actually stuck it out til it fizzled out completely; I enjoyed playing it. Funny thing is, 30 years later I don’t remember a single thing about playing it (and it’s not like I can flip on the TV and watch a match)…except that catching that wood ball hurt like a son of a bitch if you did it wrong. They play it at a pitch in kits, broadway and vine area…kinda where that new London Drugs is, and I watched them for a while one day.
The artist formerly known as GAHHHHH!
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
The ball
isn’t wooden, it’s actually cork at the centre, bound by twine and encased in stitched leather. But yeah, it’s bloody hard and takes some guts to catch at high speed with your bare hands!
They play a lot in Stanley Park, I live in the West End so I sometimes walk by and have a look at the weekend.
by British Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It only hurts to catch it if you do it wrong
you just have to cup your hands right and absorb the ball. Just like receiving a pass in hockey. Remember the mighty ducks and their eggs? Same thing for catching a cricket ball.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
That’s exactly what I said…that it “…hurt like a son of a bitch if you did it wrong.”
The artist formerly known as GAHHHHH!
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
Well don't do it wrong then :)
That reminds me of an old joke……..
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
So why
do baseball players need to use a glove? Pussies…
by British Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a response to YC about baseball
the reason they have to pitch the pitches is in case there are runners on that can try to advance on the pitch or should a intentional ball get past the catcher.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I get why, i just think it should be a quicker process. No stolen bases if the pitcher “signals” an intentional walk.
I do like that, in theory, baseball games can go on forever and you have center fielders pitching. Little things like that amuse me.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That's one of my favorite parts of baseball
no clock. It could take 7 days and 144 innings. Like Isner Mahut at Wimbledon. Those kinds of moments live in the memory forever.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
GMGM should point to this for Flash!
I'm gonna pain you dearly Woodhouse, when I peel all your skin off with a flensing knife, sew it into Woodhouse pajamas, and then set those pajamas on fire.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 26, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Just FYI, Raymond did talk to Pratt and Taylor about the deal. The link to that audio can be found here. I updated the post, missy.
I also updated it
Roster updates added to the rink graphic.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone see this?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=5401646
General Motors Place
Vancouver Canucks
Vendors with critical violations: 9%
Inspection report excerpt: A sushi display cooler was malfunctioning, and the temperature of the sushi rose above safe levels. Inspectors also cautioned one stand regarding properly heating donairs, which have been tied to E. coli outbreaks elsewhere in Canada.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
Sushi…pass. Good thing too, looks like.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Where is this General Motors Place you speak of?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Gone…gone like…like Pavel Bure…
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No, sushi is supposed to be sweet and crisp, not bitter and limp. Not that I’d know, but I heard. Chuckle, chuckle.
As for Pavel Bure, he scored one of the most amazing goals I’ve ever seen. I was extremely lucky to be about six rows up from the glass and the play happened in what seemed like a nansecond about 30 feet in front of me.
I’m a lucky guy. I’ve seen Beliveau, Richard, Orr, Gretzky, and Lemieux score great goals; but none of theirs can compare to that one by Bure.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I never heard of it. ESPN is making shit up now.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than the Capitals
Verizon Center
Washington Wizards, Washington Capitals
Vendors with critical violations: 100%
Inspection report excerpt: Mice droppings, a critical violation in Washington, were found at at least 10 vendors.
Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!
Remind me never to eat at the Verizon Center then!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I like how it says that mice droppings
are “a critical violation in Washington” That makes it seem like in some places mice droppings are just a minor inconvenience.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Sushi
is gross, anyways.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That is a ludicrous
statement.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
No
YOU’RE A LUDICROUS STATEMENT
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
No
sushi is ludicrous.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
This is...umm...
OK. I’ll go with ludicrous. Maybe nauseating as well.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
pick anything out of the sea or body of freshwater and I’ll eat it. NOM NOM!
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re a BP shill, aren’t you? Admit it. How much did they pay yoy? Man these big multinationals are disgusting. Polluting the oceans isn’t enough, they have to sully the pure and innocent world of sports fans!
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you like fish sticks?
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
When I move, you move
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Just like that?
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Anybody else laughing
at the masterpiece that is his sideburn, singular?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Ya feels me?
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The first thing that stood out in this picture to me
was the fact that his eyebrows are so well-groomed.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Yeah
You WOULD notice that.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 27, 2010 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
LUDA-CRUS
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
luda must be absurdly confident in his cred at this point. duets with Bieber? that hair?
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Luda
is untouchable at this point. He’s made his bed and now he gets to sleep with whoever he wants in it.
Wait, that went in a completely different direction than I intended…
Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!
it would explain how bieber got him to do a track.
a BJ from JB!
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
BJJB, GMMG, we’re all about the palindromic acronyms in this thread.
Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!
How the hell did Richard Boone get into this?
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Sushi is gross just like Arcade Fire is crap. You and me are in a fight.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So you lke sushi, huh?
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s okay. and only certain types.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
That’s a relief. My real concern was that you’d say you like Arcade Fire…
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i don’t even know who it is.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
They are a band. Contrary to what some commenters are saying, they are a good band. I highly recommend them.
Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!
Very good band
maybe the best Canadian band going right now.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
No Missy
don’t listen to them. Arcade Fire is overrated. So is sushi.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
We are in a big fight. Big big fight.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
which is why i posted the pic of the penguin in the first place. i’m a natural peacekeeper.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
Ok you’re hired as a moderator. CC says that Arcade Fire and sushi are overrated, whereas I say that CC is wrong on both counts and also is a stinky butt-face. Help us find middle ground!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I say that CC is wrong on both counts and also is a stinky butt-face.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW BEANTOWN
Missy can be the arbitrator. Don’t listen to their pretentious Montreal band and raw fish propaganda!
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
DOUBLE BUTT-FACE!
c’mon missy… you know i’m right!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh is this
how its gonna be? PRISON RULES, I SEE.
WELL YOU’RE A DORK.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
my verdict:
1. it’s obvious you two have different tastes in food and music. therefore, my ruling is for you guys to avoid talking to each other about Arcade Fire and sushi.
2. quit insulting each other.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
Knew it.
Going for a difficult move like that brought down the banhammer too quickly to call. A tactical error resulting in the draw.
well, considering how i am a completely neutral party (i’ve never heard of Arcade Fire until today, and i don’t eat much sushi), i think it’s a fair judgement.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
We live
to fight another day, Beantown.
Lets laugh together at this picture of Fin om nom nom-ing this chick.
Oh shit its Anne Heche.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
She tasty. Good call. Another day, Clansman, another day.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, om-nom-nom is my new favourite verb.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Its pretty
awesome. I use it for everything. Om nom nom-ing is so hot right now.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
look at you two, all being nice to one another.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at that game where Fin tore a piece off Heche.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 27, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet
who was it against?
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 27, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
They are a band.
There seems to be a difference of opinion on this point.
they are a good band
Here again there is some disagreement.
Arcade Fire is overrated.
For example.
So is sushi.
Pretty much unanimous on this though.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
wait
how have you never heard of arcade fire? i don’t mean this as “omg, they’re the greatest band ever, how could you miss them??!”, but more “they are always on every radio.”
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes good question
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
easy: i don’t listen to radio. i mainly listen to songs i’ve already downloaded onto my computer and mp3 player.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
i don't just mean radio
i mean in the mall, at parties, on ads for Where the Wild Things Are, or just like pulsing through the air.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
i don’t pay attention unless i hear a really good song.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
I swear to god
MuchMusic played the Arcade Fire 24 fucking 7 when Funeral came out. Plus the Peak in Vancouver plays them every 3rd song, Im pretty sure.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
What happened to NOT talking about Arcade Fire? MISSY HE’S BREAKING THE RULES! PUNISH HIM! PUNISH HIM!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
HEY I WAS JUST
WONDERING OUT LOUD HOW MISSY COULD HAVE NOT HEARD OF THEM
I promise I won’t do it again.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
AND AS I SAID BEFORE, I DON’T PAY ATTENTION.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
what i meant was talking to each other about it. for example, he’s talking about it and it’s not a necessity for you to join the discussion.
Nucks Misconduct writer, Twitter.
I'm too young for all the hockey history stuff.
What kind of ruling is that?
Ok. Well I will talk about how Chucky is a butt-face, a double-time butt face.
He doesn’t need to join.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
you sadistic bastard :P
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Arcade Fire are a bunch of pretentious fools who think their shit don’t stink.
/runs for his life
Actually, they come across that way but i think they are a great band. A breath of fresh air.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Arcade Fire are a bunch of pretentious fools who think their shit don’t stink.
They’re french; their everything stinks.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Quebecois actually
So they just rip apart the beautiful city of Montreal (non-sarcastic, I actually love MTL, I would live there and no where else if I couldn’t live in Vancouver), when their hockey team WINS in ANOTHER CITY.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Only a couple of them are Quebecois. Others are Anglophone. Two of them are American. The band is from Montreal, but not all the members.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
My God, how many of them are there?
What are they — multiplying? Quick, the tinfoil hats.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty soon
they’ll be Broken Social Scene.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
NO! NO! Anything but that! Please!
BTW, what’s BSS?
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Not
an overrated band.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
BSS
is actually a pretty good band.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No, the Peak plays Phoenix and the Avett Brothers every other song, and that new one by the New Pornographers. Please, Peak, don’t drive me back to the Fox.
A creep from the cradle, but a hero's what I want to be
And lots and lots and lots and lots
of Tegan and Sara.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Jul 27, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
So much
Tegan and Sara.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 27, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You're gross.
Just kidding.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
My heart
she breaks.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You broke mine
with your sushi hate.
AYCE for Chuckles’ birthday, everyone?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
DON'T TEASE ME
You know how much I love AYCE. As long as its not sushi.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
…. there’s such thing as AYCE for non-sushi? What are you referring to? Other than Posh… I can’t think of anything else….
And you’re totally missing out. AYCE Japanese food is the best.
by Vancouverguy on Jul 26, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
All you can eat
wings.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 27, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Buffet's
technically AYCE, haha.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
The depth chart above
Lists salo and Baumer, but doesn’t include Baumer’s hit. Or it includes salo’s and it shouldn’t….
Salo is still on the books no matter what (unless he retires). Baumer’s hit isn’t on there (non roster player as of now), but Perrault’s is and I didn’t include him in the line up (I don’t buy that he’ll make the cut). Again, all is from capgeek.com.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Perrault is definitely an “in case of emergency” player, I think: centre isn’t much of a weakness right now. I could certainly see Tambellini getting a good hard look in the pre-season, though…
Yeah Tambellini will be this year’s Grabner I think. Start off in the AHL and get a call up the second someone Salo’s himself. Or if Burrows starts off on LTIR he may grab some fourth line duties off the bat.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
But the cap hit is misleading.
Rome will be in the AHL if Salo is healthy, no way we ride 9 dmen. Frankly, I’m skeptical we ride 8.
My point was that Salo is off the chart, but his cap is still there. If he’s LTIR, the cap is not there.
MayRay signed?
GREAT SUCCESS!!!
I remember the game that the post picture is from. Against the Caps, MayRay puts Theodore out of position and roofs it for the game-winner. Awesome goal and celebration.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 3:36 PM PDT reply actions
what surprised me the most in that replay was Luongo’s ability to hit the offensive blueline with a decent pass ;D
even Boudreau was clapping his hands saying “good job” haha. Ok, he was mocking the refs, whatever
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, why can’t Lou pass like that all the time? wow
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
lol BB was saying to the refs
“Great fucking job”.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Lu
looked like Marty Turco on that one.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Given the thread a week or so back about Rosterbation and now that we know MayRay's Cap hit
Here’s my view of their line up with Bieksa traded – for picks and prospects. However he doesn’t actually have to be traded until Salo is close to coming back – Giving MG additional leverage. Salo is listed as the 23rd player and bottom Dman given the uncertainty of his timely return to playing. Also note Sweatt has a serious Finnish pedigree and is contractually motivated to make the team this year. Desbiens has shown he has size and hands on the Moose and could crack the 3rd line and Oreskovich’s upside (size plus crushing hits) sends glass to the minors. Actually the 4th line looks very intimidating. Depending on Cap situation and Burrows shoulder we could see another forward slide into the rotation in the early part of the season but that’s alot of if’s without a training camp.
FORWARDS
Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Mason Raymond ($2.550m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
Jannik Hansen ($0.825m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.666m) / Guillaume Desbiens ($0.550m)
Rick Rypien ($0.550m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Victor Oreskovich ($0.575m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Keith Ballard ($4.200m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)
Andrew Alberts ($1.050m) / Shane O’Brien ($1.600m)
Lee Sweatt ($0.650m) / Aaron Rome ($0.750m)
Sami Salo ($3.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) /Cory Schneider ($0.900m)
CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $90,000
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,840,000; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $410,000
What about Tambo?
Everyone seems to be leaving him off the roster. Is he really that bad?
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
No he is solid
I expect him to make the team.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
So do I.
I watched his play against Toronto and he seems decent.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I seem to recall he was supposed to be the best
skater in his draft. And projected as a top 6 forward. That hasn’t panned out obviously but if he plays well in his own end, which is something I think he was developing well, then AV will like him on his 3rd or 4th line. A guy who can skate well, play D and has decent hands? Sounds like a nice 3rd liner to me.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Can't be worse
than Stone Hands, Demo and Hordi. And at 0.5 mill, you really can’t go wrong.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If he skates fast
and hits people then he is a bargain. Maybe him and Oreskovich will just fly all over the ice pounding people. That would be fun to watch.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
i still can’t get over the notion that, on the new york effing islanders, who might be the saddest pos team in the league right now, he couldn’t get much done. i dunno. i hope he proves me wrong, obvs, but i’m not optimistic.
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Um could it be
bad coaching, bad team mates, bad schemes, bad game plans, and more?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Jul 27, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
It seems like he tears up the AHL, but the N is just too fast or too big for him.
No way is Malhotra on line 4: way too much skill to stick with 5-7 minutes a night. The first two lines are pretty much set, except for Burrows out for ? long to start the season. The next six are going to depend on what kind of line AV wants the third to be: if he’s thinking bangers, then
Malhotra-Hodgson-Oreskovich
Glass-Rypien-Hansen
…is a viable option. If he’s looking for a more high-pursuit and possession game from them, then Oreskovich is replaced with Tambellini switch and Oreo and Glass pop in and out until the inevitable forward injury. Though I have to admit I’d like to see Hansen get third line ice.
On defence I think Edler moves up and Ballard moves down for a classic attacker/defender set in our top two pairs, with Rome and Alberts moving in and out as needed until Salo comes back when Rome (probably) goes down to Manitoba.
I think no matter what
Malhotra is the center of the third line. They didn’t pay a face off guy 2.5 million to move him to the wing.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Jul 27, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re right about that. He might be the Canuck’s best faceoff man next year.
Having said that, I have a feeling he will be mentoring Hodgson on the third line, starting in the faceoff circle, but moving to wing to ease Hodgson into centre.
Not sure that's the best course of action
center is the position with the most defensive responsibility of all the forwards. If you are going to play a center out of position on the wing it is going to be the rookie not the experienced vet. Maybe a couple years down the road Hodgson would move back to center but not this season. Plus if he wants to play in the top 6 he is going to have to do it as a winger anyway so may as well learn to play the wing now on the third line and maybe at some point this season Hodgson will play with Raymond and Kesler.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
all this and CoHo hasn’t even made the team yet
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 27, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Malhotra = Johnson
I figure Malholtra will get some double shifts and special teams shifts so he’s real Time on Ice should be close to Ryan Johnson’s which is10+ minutes a game. He’ll actually get more if he’s putting up points
I would figure Malhotra to play at least 15mins a night, he’s much better than Johnson in all regards and I reserve doubts to letting CoHo have the 3rd line center spot and even then I would shift Malhotra to the Wing on the 3rd line(IF CoHo does earn his spot) rather than play him on the 4th. I realize he’s no super juggernaut offensively but he plays a style too well to be stuck on the 4th line.
Malhotra’s going to start as the third line centre. There’s no way in hell someone with a 60%+ face off record and 30+ points isn’t on the ice. I suspect he’ll be the 2nd unit PK centre, too.
If Hodgson makes it (and I expect him to) then he should be starting out either alongside Malhotra and gain time in the centre there or possibly starting out on the fourth until he gets his feet wet then move up, pushing Manny to the wing for the safer face offs.
It’s certainly possible, but I think Kesler/Burrows will get first crack, depending on game situation, of course.
Well perhaps we want to rest Kes a bit more for more 5-on-5 time. But yes. Mostly this gives us options. I think Malholtra would be a great first pk unit choice too… if only because of his 60% faceoff win. That’s a fucking huge asset for a pk.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Well perhaps we want to rest Kes a bit more for more 5-on-5 time.
Yes please! Way rather have Malhotra blocking all those shots than Kesler
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
If we’re paying Manny 2.5M to be Ryan Johnson 2.0 with the same ATOI I will shit a brick
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
no way that is the case. Malhotra actually has some skills. Johnson 5 on 5 was futile
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
this stuff is unrelated but seeing as this post seems to be the July 26th thread I have to share these things.
And this fantastic picture:
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 6:17 PM PDT reply actions
I CAN'T WAIT FOR DEXTER
I call being the Architect.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Fine
I’ll be the Pointman or The Forger. JGL and Tom Hardy FTW.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll be the japanese executive with sweet mother fucking connections and I will own all y’all.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Except your brain will be f’ed up
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
No I’m good in the end. I’ll get you into any country, no questions asked. If you do my bidding. Trust me.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you know? You just barely remember to make the call. You could have some serious brain damage up in there. Maybe some early onset Alzheimer’s.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Except
you can’t even take a bullet to the chest.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You do not
age gracefully buddyguy.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I went on Tuesday
its half price tickets at Cineplex/Silvercity.
YES SPOILER ALERT.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey I saw it on cheap night too! And it’s not that much of a spoiler. I could have said more, but did not. And it’s more interpretation than anything
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I could buy all the theatres and give all you pansies free seats to see the movie, I’m such a mad cool Japanese exec who owns the SHIT out of things.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Except
you’re a terrible shot and forgot to wear a bulletproof vest on a highly dangerous mission.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s all good in the end. I was just going for the shits and giggles. It’s all cool. I own shit, shit don’t own me.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
JGL's
one sexy mufka.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
500 Days of Summer
is one of my most favourite movies.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 27, 2010 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
He will forever be
Tommy Solomon in my heart.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Have you seen Brick?
Absolutely amazing movie. I watched it the first time not knowing what it was. Just a great movie from start to finish. He was also the only good part about Stop Loss.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 27, 2010 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I love Brick
Lovelovelove. Seriously great movie.
Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!
i like this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8U93SvVyY&feature=related
i like this game
http://www.addictinggames.com/walkinator-game.html
Stop spamming :P
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I like this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ca_h_xlZf8
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
ooo
I like her
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
eightyseven has good taste
Pick up her CD “Careless Love”. Every track’s a winner.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Post a track
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Quite a contrast to mine, but I like it.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
CHEAP V1AGRA C1ALIS PILLS ONLINE PHARMACY
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
What is that — some kinda code or virus or something?
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That was fast. Not bad, either. +1
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
!!!GR0W 6IX !NCHES IN 6IX DAYS!!!
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I can’t listen to your song. I’m listening to mine.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey that's that Arcade Fire!
You can’t do that. Chuckles will find out and it’ll all start again.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean
It's a clean machine
by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
CC ANGRY
CC SMASH!!!
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s a quote from the BBC’s review of Arcade Fire’s brand new album:
“You could call it their OK Computer. But it’s arguably better than that.”
There words, not mind.
Also if you dislike OK Computer, we are in a bigger fight.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not really a fan of arcade fire
but if you like them, you might like the band Clues who share some members
I fucking love Radiohead
OK Computer is one of my most favourite albums besides In Rainbows. Funny thing, I actually need Radiohead and booze to write term papers. If I don’t have those things I churn out terrible essays.
I still don’t like Arcade Fire though.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Well the BBC, again not Beantown but the BBC, is saying that Arcade Fire’s new album (to be released next week) is arguably BETTER than OK Computer. How do you like them apples?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 26, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
perhaps I will give it another listen.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 26, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
wait, you, Chuckles, of all people, are going to trust the fucking British?
by Passive Voice on Jul 26, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I know
I feel so cheap and….soccer hooligany.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 27, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Can’t say I’m down with the BBC’s “greatest albums of all time” list. Nor Rolling Stone’s list, for that matter. But I think it’s safe to say that albums are never going to have the impact they did in the past.
OK Computer is still one of the best albums I’ve heard in a long long time.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 27, 2010 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup yup.
Rank your fave Radiohead albums…then top five songs. Go.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
1. In Rainbows
2. OK Computer
3. The Bends
4. Hail To The Thief
5. The album thats going to come out. I haven’t even heard it yet and I know its going to be fucking fantastic.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 27, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions
1. OK Computer
2. Pablo Honey
3. In Rainbows
4. The Bends
5. Kid A (mostly because it came out back when I was paying most attention to Radiohead)
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 27, 2010 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Songs:
1. Creep
2. Karma Police
3. Paranoid Android
4. Fake Plastic Trees
5. House of Cards
meh i pretty much just made that list up now… i’m not even sure i agree with it
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 27, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
1. OK Computer
2. The Bends
3. Pablo Honey
4. I Might Be Wrong (Live EP)
5. I dunno
Songs:
1. Nice Dream
2. Paranoid Android
3. Spinning Glass
4. I Might Be Wrong
5. Creep
6. Karma Police
7. Just
8. National Anthem
9. Nice Dream
10. Thinking About You
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 27, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
1. In Rainbows
2. OK Computer
3. Kid A
4. Hail to the Thief
5. Amnesiac
1. Everything In Its Right Place
2. Videotape
3. Optimistic
4. Let Down
5. Go To Sleep/Myxomatosis/All I Need/How To Disappear Completely/I Might Be Wrong/What A Band
Honorable mention to Eraser.
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Well I only own OK Computer, Pablo Honey and Hail to the Thief, and even thought I’ve heard the others, I can’t fairly rate them. Definitely OK Computer first though…that was far and above the BEST rock album of 1997. And I’m a metalhead. Pablo Honey holds a special place in my heart cuz of creep…that song was one of the definitive 90’s sounds to me.
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Back in the early 2000s I enjoyed Radiohead but OK Computer never really clicked on a superficial level the way The Bends did. It wasn’t “first listen friendly”. Back then I rode the bus to work every morning at about 6am, and during the winter I got hooked on it (the ride was slightly longer than the album itself). There was something perfect about listening to an album that had a lot to do with globalization and the world moving so quickly while driving through empty farmland. Must’ve listened to it for a month straight.
I think I’ll go for a drive tonight…
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by Joe Hockey Fan on Jul 26, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
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