If true, and he’s out on LTIR until the beginning of December, that gives an extra couple months to move Bieksa and figure out what to do with the 9th d-man too. And honestly, who’s surprised by this?

So Juice is going nowhere…. How could we deal him now? And with that said, where does the money for that final piece come from? I really had my hopes up for Asham or Dorsett (or Filatov).

If you can’t laugh at this stuff by now, you never will. Just one more year of this crap…

“loukkaantumishistoria” is my new favorite word.

Losing Salo sucks. He was our best d-man last year, but it’s quite likely that he could be sliding down the list this year with all the additions and hopeful improvement of Edler and continued improvement of Ehrhoff.

Accordingly, this could actually be a real benefit to the Canucks. Bieksa’s value can probably only go up. If he has a decent start to the year, he’s could generate more in a trade. We could basically deadline-deal him away and not lose anything (assuming Sami’s back). And thank goodness he hadn’t been dealt yet. This probably would mean that we’d only have to trade SOB before the season starts.

Of course, Bieksa could still go, and SOB could stick around. That would actually result in the most cap space – if you delete Salo and Bieksa and keep SOB until Salo gets back, you have a lot more cap space to play with at the beginning of the year. Case in point (I LOVE capgeek):

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Mason Raymond ($3.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.666m) / Jannik Hansen ($0.825m)
Tanner Glass ($0.625m) / Joel Perrault ($0.510m) / Victor Oreskovich ($0.575m)
Rick Rypien ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Keith Ballard ($4.200m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)
Shane O’Brien ($1.600m) / Andrew Alberts ($1.050m)
Aaron Rome ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) /Cory Schneider ($0.900m)

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $90,000

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,725,000; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $3,525,000

That includes 3m for May-Ray, and deletes Salo, Bieksa and Hordichuk, and adds CoHo. And it results in starting the year with an extra 3.5m in cap space, which is more than enough for a nice upgrade to the F. Now, you’d have to be comfortable with starting the year with a bottom pairing that includes 2 of SOB, Alberts and Rome, but that’s not the end of the world.

The other thing, of course, that this could do is open up the ability to resign Mitchell if SOB gets moved. You could always hack SOB from that roster and include Mitchell instead. Or hack SOB and Alberts, keep Bieksa and add Mitchell. Lots of options.

Now that I’ve gone through and thought of all that, I’m sure it’ll end up being a bad report and he’ll be fine, and we can go back to regularly scheduled programming.

well, this sure adds a twist to all the rosterbation, doesn’t it?

BotchonCanucks
  
Canucks looking into report Salo tore up his achilles heel and will be out 4 months > http://bit.ly/c7xe3k

http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2010/7/23/1584254/sami-salo-injury-digest

This kind of thing is why I really dig GMMG’s patience and somewhat meticulous way of doing things… most of us woulda jumped at the first bieksa offer for a prospect and draft pick, and we’d be looking for a defenceman.

oh god, poor guy :/ he’s on his way to most injured finnish athlete ever…

BotchonCanucks
  
Canucks have confirmed Sami Salo suffered an Achilles tear while training and is out indefinitely

What happens if Salo just flat out retires this summer. We still on the hook for his $3.5 million this season?

If we had penciled Salo in as a bottom 3 D man with a top 3 of Ballard, Hamhuis and Edler then we still have Bieksa, Rome, Alberts, SOB and Ehrhoff to fill out the bottom 3. Moving Bieksa for the right pieces still gets us some cap room and thins out the numbers a little. Remember that both Ballard and Hamhuis can eat minutes and that’s the point I think Edler is getting to as well. So your bottom 2 assuming Ehrhoff builds on last season only needs to play 10-15 minutes a night given the opponent. Should we really be spending 3.75 million on a guy who is playing that little? SOB and Rome, or maybe a young guy like Sauve, can cover those minutes until Salo returns. To me this just means we can posture more and make it seem like we aren’t willing to move Bieksa and maybe get a little more in return for him.

Also, I said a long time ago on this site that we needed to get rid of Salo because it’s ludicrous to have a D man on your team that is as valuable as Salo considering how often he is hurt. We are better when he is in the lineup, no doubts about that, but he is hardly ever in the lineup. You can afford to have a player be that important to your team and KNOW that he is going to get hurt. Get someone in who can be equally as important and stay on the ice and you have improved your team immensely. Now that we have Ballard and Hamhuis I think it’s time to let Salo go.

This is like the NHL’s longest running joke. Is it bad that I’m not really surprised?

maybe he comes back before christmas, maybe he’s just done with pro hockey, i honestly don’t know which is more likely so we’ll start with a half season. he makes 3.5M, so leaving a 1.75M gap under the cap for half a year will bank enough space to accommodate his return from LTIR in the second half. let’s also give Mason Raymond 3M in arbitration, which is not a conservative estimate. the roster currently looks like:

FORWARDS
Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
Mason Raymond ($3.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Cody Hodgson ($1.666m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($0.825m)
Rick Rypien ($0.550m) / Alexandre Bolduc ($0.500m) / Victor Oreskovich ($0.575m)
/ / Tanner Glass ($0.625m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Keith Ballard ($4.200m)
Kevin Bieksa ($3.750m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Shane O’Brien ($1.600m)
Andrew Alberts ($1.050m) / Aaron Rome ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) /Cory Schneider ($0.900m)

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $90,000

SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,465,000; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$215,000

that’s clearly not going to cut it. i have to think that bieksa is still on the block, although this might change what the canucks want back. i’m very on board with dumping juice and signing mitchell if you can get him for 2M.

one thing that i’d like to know is how important righty defensemen are to gillis and AV, with bieksa and salo the only right hand shots on the roster and neither terribly likely to play at the beginning of the season.

I see the bright side of this injury: he will be back by end of November, and he already used up his quota for injuries this year. There is no way that he can injure his Achilles tendon TWICE in a season, just like lightning is not supposed to strike the same place twice.

A lot of people think that this means Bieksa won’t be moved, but if Willie Mitchell gets a clean bill of health, then why not sign him for 2-2.5 million. Bieksa and Salo are both third-pairing defensemen on the team’s depth chart….so why not save some money and have O’Brien and Mitchell there instead. That way you have 1 million in extra cap space accumulating, so that by the time Salo returns, you can fit him without having to sacrifice either SOB or Mitch.

Example: Bieksa mkes 3.750 while Salo makes 3.500. With Salo gone, part of his cap hit is taken off, equal to the time he missed. If he misses half the season, a definite possibility, his cap hit drops to 1.750. So you have to trade Bieksa.

But if you trade Bieksa and sign Mitchell, your saving 1 million in cap space. So when Salo returns, only 750,000 has to be freed up.