Canucks Re-Sign Jannik Hansen
The terms have not yet been disclosed. It's a 1-year, 1-way deal worth $825,000. The Canucks are now $1,183,333 over the cap. So it's only natural that the Province is reporting that the Ducks are taking a long hard look at Kevin Bieksa.
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that’s what Duthie reported this morning. unless there’s been a change since then, of course (but i doubt it)…..
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 22, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
well, we didn’t have the confirmation yet that he was re-signed. we just had the arbitration award.
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pretty much, yeah.
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but it’s still a Canucks story, you know what I’m saying, G?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 23, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Just throwing it out there...
But has anyone entertained the idea that it may not be Bieksa who goes?
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If Raymond gets even close to $3 million, who else has to go? Salo has a NTC, Alberts and SOB alone won’t bring them back under the cap and all of their costly wingers can’t be moved without a damned good reason, only Burrows and Sammy have NTCs.
At best, you can move SOB, Alberts and Hordichuk and you’re almost back under the cap. But then is Bieksa really that valuable? Harder to move three lower tier guys than Bieksa who’s a legit top 4.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 22, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
“Harder to move three lower tier guys than Bieksa who’s a legit top 4.”
No its not. Two words – Manitoba Moose. Ok, not for SOB, but for the other two, definitely.
SOB can go to the farm too
and never get called back up. I would be OK with that.
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by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, but if we’re trying to shed salary and get a prospect back?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 22, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Kuzma thinks its debatable...
General manager Bob Murray wants to add a top-four defenceman and you can start the debate whether a healthy and productive Bieksa can fill that role.
Love that.
Does anyone know what Raymond is looking for, or is he satisfied to let the arbitrators determine that? I think they’re going to be pinned regardless if he doesn’t sign a structured Canuck-friendly deal before it gets to court. Anyone know what the arbitrated term would be, one or two years? Or is it GMMG’s choice?
Someone floated the Bieksa+Raymond+another live body for Bobby Ryan idea. GM BM offered 5yrs at 5mil and Ryan wanted a shorter term to cash in again a few years later. Seems like a lot of the RFA’s this year are satisfied to take a year deal, ride it out with a good performance, and see what they can get next summer as an UFA.
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Bobby Ryan is 4 years
away from UFA status. Raymond is 3.
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by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently Ryan also turned down $5 million for four years, too, which would bring him to UFA status nicely. He’s got a couple damn fine line mates, so I don’t know what he’s aiming for. Still, given the way the Arbies have been handing out cash (though I’m okay with Hansen’s number), he could be going for a jackpot total.
2 full years in the league
and 2 30 goal seasons and he was a 2nd overall pick. He wants to get paid I guess and you can’t blame him.
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by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Ehrhoff or Bieksa
Those are the only 2 I can see. And SOB. I think SOB is gone regardless.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
I would say Bieksa and O’Brien and maybe even Hansen in a big deal. It depends on what happens at camp I guess.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
there isn’t a rush is there? We can be over the cap for 2 more months yet
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 22, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i’d say smart thing would be to wait til MayRay is signed and see how much they need to move, or who
by AdelaideNuck on Jul 22, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Bieksa
For a trade involving Dan Sexton? He impressed at times last season, though he’s another small guy so I’m not sure if he would fit into MG’s plans.
we definitely need more size. Sexton is too small
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 22, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if Hansen gets traded as well. He’s an AV doghouse guy and now he has a 1-way deal. Hate to lose him on the waiver wire.
Curious, if he stays, to see how he’d do on the bottom 6. I don’t mind the guy myself
Am I missing something?
Didn’t he do well in the bottom 6 last year? Every time I saw him play I was impressed and I seem to remember a lot of people calling for him to get more playing time.
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by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
May-Ray
I would not be surprised if May-Ray gets anything north of 3m that he’s also headed out. Heck, i could see him traded if he gets 3m.
What about something like, say, Raymond, Bieksa, SOB for E. Kane? Atlanta seems to enjoy making stupid moves.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
Raymond, Bieksa, SOB for E. Kane?
Well, that’s being overly generous on our part if we did that
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 23, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Overly generous?
I don’t think so. The kid isn’t even 19 for another two weeks and he played 66 NHL games last year. He can score and he is tough and willing to stand up for himself. That would be giving up 3 NHL players for one but long term we get the best player in the trade by far so we win the trade. Plus he’s a Vancouver kid so he’d be coming home and we would shed a lot of salary and Atlanta would get to the cap floor. Everyone wins. That would basically be Raymond for Kane and then we will throw in some 1 year contracts to move salary around. I like it but it will never happen.
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by Section 312 on Jul 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
How about just Raymond/Bieksa for Kane. I’d do that. Need at least SOB around now that Salo is out.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 23, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Does Mitchell want to come back? If so then yes yes yes. But I get the feeling he may not. May want a fresh start.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 23, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do you think he may want a fresh start? I think Mitchell was highly regarded in Vancouver and treated with respect. Other then a few fans questioning his health which is only fair, I cant see a reason for him to feel like he needs a fresh start somewhere else.
I’ve seen suggestions a few times that he and management and coaching staff haven’t always seen eye-to-eye
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 23, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm, I never heard any of that. Not to sound like an ass, but out of pure curiosity, what were the disagreements about between Mitchell and the management/coaching staff?
I don’t really know. And it’s all hearsay, because I really don’t recall where I’ve read this stuff, but I do recall seeing some reports of this a couple times. It’s all just speculation… all I’m saying is I like your scenario a lot, but it supposes that Mitchell wants to come back! I hope he does.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 23, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The only thing I remember is where management did not know that he was going to question the league when he came back to the media for his emotional speech
I think he got called out by AV once or twice for lackluster play… though AV does that to everyone, and twice as much if your initials are SOB.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 24, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
But
I also agree that it will never happen. But I’ve said that about Atlanta a few times ad been wrong, so you never know.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
In the weak East
with Ladd, Buff, Bieksa, Raymond and SOB added to what they had before they could be a playoff team.
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by Section 312 on Jul 23, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Their D is pretty good
Hainsey, Oduya, Sopel, Bogosian, Enstrom Valabik.
Plus they have Antropov, White, Peverley..plus they should resign Little, Bergfors and Eager.
I am not sure about the numbers or the exact lines but this would be a strong lineup:
CAP GEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Nikolai Antropov ($4.062m) / Bryan Little ($2.000m) / Andrew Ladd ($2.550m)
Mason Raymond ($2.883m) / Rich Peverley ($1.325m) / Todd White ($2.375m)
Ben Eager ($1.500m) / Nicklas Bergfors ($1.818m) / Dustin Byfuglien ($3.000m)
M. Afinogenov ($1.000m) / Eric Boulton ($0.650m) / Chris Thorburn ($0.660m)
J. Slater ($1,000,000)
DEFENSEMEN
Ron Hainsey ($4.500m) / Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m)
Johnny Oduya ($3.500m) / Zach Bogosian ($3.375m)
Brent Sopel ($2.333m) / Kevin Bieksa ($3.750m)
/ Boris Valabik ($0.762m)
GOALTENDERS
Chris Mason ($1.850m) /Ondrej Pavelec ($1.150m)
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(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $48,794,999; BONUSES: $2,500,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $13,105,001
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by Section 312 on Jul 23, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Awww….Bieksa and Sopel together. Warms my heart in a sick way.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 23, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a bad looking lineup
though eh? Better than a lot of teams in the East.
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by Section 312 on Jul 23, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s sure as hell easier on the eyes than the team was at the start of last season. Or maybe at the start of 2008 is a better comparison: http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/ATL/2009.html
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 23, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s not a warming, that’s a cardiac arrest warning sign that you;ll get every time one of em does something boneheaded.
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Sopel was very good
in the playoffs last year. And did help the Hawks win a cup.
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by Section 312 on Jul 23, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
yep, Sopel looked solid out there. Blew my mind, really
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 23, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and Bieksa, Raymond and SOB for Kane is way too much. I completely disagree. We better get a draft pick back in that one. A high pick.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 23, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
A 4th overall pick who still has 2 years left on his ELC and looks set to be one of the top wingers in the league for two somewhat decent NHL D men who are on expiring contracts and a forward with one good year under his belt who most likely will be overpaid? Seems pretty fair to me.
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"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Jul 23, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
If MayRay goes...
…Then we’ve got a gaping hole in our front six. That’s got to be filled, and I don’t know if Kane can do that yet, and I’m not wiling to rely on a rookie there to open the season.
And don’t get me wrong: I love Evander, and seeing him here would do me good; but Raymond is a proven scorer who works well with Kesler.
Proven scorer's have
more than one good scoring season.
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by Section 312 on Jul 26, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
are we sure we’re talking about the same Evander Kane, Sean?
by Passive Voice on Jul 23, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
For someone who talks shit about Salo, it’s hilarious to hear you say that. Salo was better the Sopel in the playoffs, even beyond the fact that he played a more integral role to his team.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 24, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
don’t mean to be mean, sean, but you’re out to lizunch on that one :)
by Passive Voice on Jul 23, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey you guys can rate Kane that high all you want. I don’t. He’s not proven enough yet.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 24, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
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