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What's Next For Mikael Samuelsson?

I was struck this morning by a post at Kuklas dealing with the missed shots of a mystery player and Paul remarked "...it is not Sammy." Wings fans warned u' that Mikael Samuelsson would go 'spoldy bones on the shins of those in front of his shots; after three straight seasons of pretty poor shooting in Detroit, they can't be blamed.

It was very similar to what Sharks fans told us about Ehrhoff; throw in Bieka's nose for hitting the glass and Bernier being Bernier and we had no shortage of guys finding anything but the net.

While Samuelsson did have his share of missed opportunities, but he also had a career season in which he ate up top six minutes and rewarded Vigneault with an offensive threat in all situations on the ice. Sammy was a big reason the Canucks exploded in scoring and his work alongside the Sedins in the post season helped show Los Angeles the door. No offense to the Jason Krogs of the hockey world, but Samuelsson has been the best FA pick up Mike Gillis has made so far.

Can Samuelsson improve on his 2010 campaign, has he peaked or will he suddenly slump back to a Wings-like third liner?

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Anytime someone suddenly trounces their career totals, it's worth asking what conditions helped foster that. Playing alongside Kesler and Raymond didn't hurt; all three had career seasons in points. We know Kesler and Raymond have budding chemistry (see Michael Grabner in Florida for more on that) and Sammy's veteran leadership and two-way play helped complete the trio. Obviously the increased ice-time and responsibility was key; he said as much when he signed last summer. He certainly had no problem moving from Babcock to Vigneault. For all we know, he really loves the rain or is motivated by Tim Horton's blueberry fritters (and, of course, who wouldn't be?)

Sammy's first four seasons were largely forgettable; he barely played in San Jose and he added only nine points with the Panthers in 2003-04. His past five seasons have been a different story; for comparison, let's focus on his first year in Vancouver in contrast with his four in Detroit (averages rounded up):

2009-2010 w/Vancouver
2005-09 Average w/ Detroit
Increase  / Decrease
Games Played
74 70 + 6%
Goals 30 17 + 76%
Assists 23 23 same
Points 53 40 + 33%
+/- 10 12 - 17%
PIM 64 37 + 72%
ESG 23 11 + 209%
PPG 7 3 + 233%
Shots 219 221 - 1%
S% 13.7% 8% + 58%
ATOI 17:10 15:00 + 14%

With a modest increase in time, Samuelsson's shooting percentage shot up and padded his goal totals at ES and PP. All three far exceed his averages on the deeper Detroit teams who had the luxury to stash him away outside of their top six. An aside - I would love to see a chart of player's PIM averages before being coached by Vigneault. I have to think they all take a significant increase; whether or not that's a league trend is another matter.

But can he build upon these totals, ideally through the life of his contract? If Samuelsson returns to favorable situations with the right linemates (or plays the third Sedin), there's no reason to think he can't. Maybe a slight decrease in goals should be anticipated, but if his off-season conditioning remains strong, the ATOI Vigneault will serve up means he'll be given no shortage of opportunities to succeed. Let's say he doesn't build on them and he remains a 30 goal scorer for two more seasons; no one in the right mind would complain.

On the other hand, he turns 34 in December which - historically - suggests his best days are behind him. Generally Samuelsson is durable (81 games in 2008-09 was his best to date), but does put himself into situations that his body may not enjoy. Since the lockout he's missed 56 games due to injury or illness which isn't bad (he's granite compared to Demitra), but if Vigneault decides to use him in a pure checking sense or increase his PK time significantly, the probability for injury jumps.

Whether it's an injury or an off-year, a Samuelsson decline could be particularly painful. Last season he was sixth in points, second in goals and third in ESGs and, scanning the roster as of now, there isn't one guy who could replace that (by committee of course they could). We already know Alexandre Burrows is rehabbing his shoulder; a worst case scenario would be Burrows and Samuelsson both drop off significantly and Vancouver suddenly has to make up 65 goals, or roughly 25% of their production from one year ago.

Maybe the ace in the hole is to keep Bengt-Ake Gustafsson's cell handy. Should Samuelsson hit a dry spell, a few comforting words from Gustafsson should do the trick.

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The shooting percentage

increase can partially be explained by his playing with better players. He got more shots in high quality areas last year than ever before. And the time on ice increase can partially explain his increased production as well. That still leaves room for some of the increase simply being because he had a career year. I would expect his production to decrease a little but I am not too worried. I expect Raymond’s, Kesler’s and Daniel’s (due to health, fingers crossed) to increase over last year. That should cover any decrease in production from Burr and Sammy.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
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by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

My lone concern is the health of the top two goal scorers, Burrows and Sammy. Sammy is the lesser of the two evils…I expect him to be fine (or he won’t and I get to link back to this in several months!)

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 22, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Daniel had played his career average

number of games at the rate he was scoring he would have got to around 36 goals. So I still look at him as our top goal scorer. I also think injuries or not that there is a good chance that Raymond outscores both Sammy and Burr next year. As long as he is on the team and playing with Kesler.

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by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, if If Daniel was healthy, he would have bypassed Naslund’s best year point-wise (in turn, making him the highest scoring LW in a single season in franchise history).

So in terms of “injuries we don’t want to see”, how would you rank it between Hank, Daniel, Kesler and Luongo? I think I’d go Kes, Hank, Daniel than Luongo (assuming Schneider is back there).

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 22, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not too worried about injuries

this year. We showed last year that we can cope with injuries even with long ass road trips to contend with. As long as we are reasonably healthy come playoff time I am not too concerned. We should have enough depth to cope with injuries.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Umm ok

Hank, Kesler, Dank, Luongo

Although a part of me feels like Hank won’t be able to reproduce the same number of points as last year and if that is the case then Daniel having a good season becomes more important.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only put Kes first because our offense and defense would suffer. Speaks a ton to his value. IMO.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 22, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think we can cope with out him

better than without Hank. Maybe cause it would be easier for Malhotra to fill in on line 2 with Hank carrying the scoring burden than for MM to fill in on line 2 with Kes carrying the scoring burden. If that even makes sense outside of my own head.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
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"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn

You’re a Malhotra fan. That lad will need a nickname…

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 22, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just think that if MM is filling in on the second line

there will be a bigger burden on the top line to score and Hank can handle that particular burden better than Kesler. So if Kesler goes down Hank can handle the extra load of having to score more where I don’t know that Kesler can do the same if Hank is out and Kes is centering the top line.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Kesler were to get injured, God forbid, I could see Hodgson playing that second line center position, with Malhotra getting more minutes to play in the defensive zone on the 3rd line? A kind of 2A – 2B scenario?

by DD WEST on Jul 22, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That could work

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Jul 22, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless Hansen turns into a scoring machine

I would be disappointed if anybody in the top two lines went down and CoHo or maybe Schreoder didn’t get a crack at top six minutes.

by Sandwich76 on Jul 22, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Team Sweden can go fuck itself. Team Sweden can go fuck itself. Team Sweden can go fuck itself. Team Sweden can go fuck itself. Team Sweden can go fuck itself. Team Sweden can go fuck itself. Team Sweden can go fuck itself.Team Sweden can go fuck itself. Team Sweden can go fuck itself.

repeat after me everyone

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 22, 2010 2:28 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That’s how I fall asleep at night…

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 22, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

oh, and Team Sweden can go fuck itself.

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by missy on Jul 22, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a couple of bucks

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by Smoboy41 on Jul 22, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

one thing i’d like to know about mike is what was going on at zetterberg’s wedding with olde timey bathing suits.

by bitterguy on Jul 22, 2010 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

lol wtf

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Jul 22, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol wtf

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Jul 22, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Double post because I was so befuddled.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Jul 22, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next season for Son of Sam:

20+ goals, 20+ assists, an injury or two, ok shooting percentage,
a big game against the Wings at the Joe, a few clutch goals in the playoffs….and then he ascends to Heaven to take his righful place alongside God during the Rapture.
Just an educated guess.

by Sneps-ish on Jul 22, 2010 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Everyone

always forgets about The Rapture.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 22, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll be back on Earth partying it up big time and you suckers can enjoy heaven where there won’t be any beer or scantily clad women. Suckers.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 23, 2010 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not bad for someone who was left off Team Sweden ;)

by Big Blue Whale on Jul 23, 2010 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Btw they can go f**k themselves!

by Big Blue Whale on Jul 23, 2010 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be happy with a little drop-off from Sammy, as I’m sure guys like Dank or MM can pick up the slack. 25g 20a would be fine to me.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Jul 22, 2010 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, I shouldn’t say “happy” with a drop-off but rather “okay” with it.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Jul 22, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol i was gonna ask…

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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 23, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Sammy breaks even or drops off this coming season. Just a hunch.
Love how he shoots from anywhere. Some players could learn from that

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 24, 2010 7:02 PM PDT reply actions  


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