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The Decline Of Western Civilization: The Dismantling of The Canucks' 1994 Roster

Kirkmclean3_medium I am going to do my best to give you a timeline of when and how the Canucks' super team of 1994 was dismantled.

The first big change started with Pat Quinn after the '94 playoffs, who handed the head coaching job to then assistant coach Rick Ley so he could focus on his roles of being President and GM. In a lockout-shortened season, the Canucks under Ley had an 18-18-12 record in 1994-95. That ranked them 2nd in the Pacific Division and 6th in the Conference. How times have changed, huh? Vancouver would beat the Blues in 7 games in Round 1 and then get swept by the Blackhawks in Round 2 (yeah, those back-to-back OT goals by Chelios...UGH). Lousy defence. Lousy I say! And it was all downhill from there. For the record, Rick Ley only lasted 121 games as a Canucks coach and was temporarily replaced by Quinn for 6 games and then Tom Renney was hired soon after.

So, on to the roster changes...

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-In the January 1995 waiver draft the Canucks lost defenceman Brian Glynn to the Whalers. Glynn only played 2 more seasons (plus 1 game in the 3rd year) and that was it for his NHL career at the age of 30 years old.

-On February 15, 1995 the Canucks traded tough d-man winger Shawn Antoski to the Flyers in exchange for Josef Beranek. Beranek was an offensive fail and was flogged to the Penguins 2 years later for a bag of peanuts. Did you know Antoski was a first round pick by the Canucks in 1990? I didn't. Antoski's NHL career ended when he crashed his car and suffered a skull fracture in November 1997. He was a pitbull. And he was a bit nuts, in a good way.

-Murray Craven, one of my faves, played a huge 2-way role on a line with Pavel Bure and was a vital cog in the Canucks machine in 1994. Unfortunately, he held out in the beginning of the 94-95 season because of, how Wikipedia puts it, "a result of uncertainty over his free agency status." He was traded to the Blackhawks in exchange for Christian Ruutu on March 10, 1995. Poor Craven never did win a Cup. He appeared in 2 Stanley Cup game 7's (Canucks and Flyers).

At the April 7 trade deadline they made some key changes:

-A disheartening move was sending the beloved Greg Adams, Dan Kesa and a 5th round pick to Dallas in exchange for Russ Courtnall. Russ joined his brother Geoff on the team and made an immediate impact, scoring 18 points in 13 games down the stretch and 12 points in the 11 playoff games that year. Adams played 7 more years in the NHL with Dallas, Phoenix and Florida.

-Gerald Diduck, the reliable, bruising defenceman, was sent to Chicago in exchange for Bogdan Savenko and a 3rd round pick in 1995, which they used to select Larry Courville. Don't everybody jump up and down at once! Cue the Ukrainian jokes on Savenko, who never played a game in the NHL. Courville may as well not have either. Left winger Larry played 33 games for the Canucks (over 3 years) and scored NO goals, and..never played in the NHL after that. In his 8 remaining NHL seasons, Diduck played for Chicago, Hartford, Phoenix, Toronto and Dallas. He could not stay healthy after his years with the Canucks. He was 35 years old when he retired.

-Nathan Lafayette, famous for hitting the goal post in the 3rd period of Game 7 against the Rangers was traded to that evil team in exchange for Corey Hirsch. Lafayette actually had 2 goals and 9 points in 20 playoff games in 1994. He never play a full season in the NHL and dwindled into obscurity, being done at the NHL level by the age of 27. I wonder if that shot off the post drove him to drinking....or Christianity.

-Jiri Slegr was traded to the Oilers for Roman Oksiuta. The sniper Oksiuta showed some promise but was traded to the Mighty Ducks the following season in exchange for Mike Sillinger. Slegr did not play for the Canucks in the '94 Finals. If I recall correctly he was the 8th defenceman on the depth chart.

A lot of grit was lost in those moves with not much of it coming back.

-A side note:  some key players did not play all 11 playoff games in 1995: Jeff Brown (5), Martin Gelinas (3), the emerging Mike Peca (5) and Dana Murzyn (8).

-Here is a list of Canucks players from the 1994-95 season and their stats. It appears that 13 of the 20 Canucks that played in the 1994 Finals were still on the team.

-July 8, 1995:  the Canucks traded Sergio Momesso to the Maple Leafs for Mike Ridley. That same day they acquired Alexander Mogilny from the Sabres for Mike Peca, Mike Wilson and a 1st round pick, who the Sabres would use to select Jay McKee the following summer. Momesso played parts of 4 more seasons in the NHL before playing out the remainder of his career in Europe.

-July 14, 1995: Geoff Courtnall signed in St. Louis as a free agent, soon to play on a line with that damned Demitra.

-December 19, 1995: Vancouver trades Jeff Brown (amidst rumors that he was banging another Canuck player's wife) and a 3rd round pick to Hartford for Jim Dowd, Frantisek Kucera (oh dear god, no) and a 2nd round pick

-July 1, 1996: Cliff Ronning signs with the new Coyotes as a free agent. Damn!

-July 21, 1996: San Jose signs Tim Hunter as a free agent.

-After the summer of 1996, only 7 players from the 1994 Finals roster remained: Linden, Gelinas, Bure, Lumme, McLean, Hedican and Babych. Not gonna lie, that team looked like crap on paper. Played like crap too.

ERASING THE FINAL PIECES OF THE PAST

-Pat Quinn was fired in November 1997. He was eventually replaced by Mike Keenan on sort of an intern GM basis until Vancouver hired Brian Burke as the actual GM in June of 1998. Keenan also replaced fired head coach Tom Renney. Drink up, as Yankee would say.

-On January 3, 1998, Kirk McLean and Martin Gelinas were traded to Carolina for Sean Burke, Enrico Ciccone and Geoff Sanderson. McLean put up decent numbers with Florida 2 seasons later but that was about it in his final 5 seasons in the NHL. The stand-up style he possessed had gone the way of the dinosaur. After McLean's departure, the Vancouver became a goalie graveyard. Gelinas was one of those guys I wish we never got rid of. He always gave 100%. He made 2 more appearances in the Cup Finals (Carolina-2002 and Calgary-2004).

-February 1998: Trevor Linden was traded to the Islanders after going through some dark times with Mike Keenan. Hey, no worries. We got Bertuzzi, McCabe and a 3rd round pick in return. That pick turned out to be Jarko Ruutu.

-At the trade deadline on March 24, 1998, Vancouver traded Dave Babych to the Flyers for a 5th round pick. It is said that he wanted to be traded to a team that was a contender for the Stanley Cup.  A sad day that was, but Babych was becoming slower and slower. Unfortunately, there was no deep run for Babych with the Flyers and he retired from the NHL in 2000.

-July 1998: Jyrki Lumme became a free agent and signed with the Coyotes. Lumme's offensive production and ability to stay healthy more or less declined after his years as a Canuck. He would play 6 more years in the NHL with the Coyotes, Stars and Leafs before returning to Finland.

-On January 17, 1999, Brian Burke traded disgruntled hold out Pavel Bure, Brett Hedican, Brad Ference and a 3rd round pick to Florida for Ed Jovanovski, Dave Gagner, Mike Brown, Kevin Weekes and a 1st round pick in 2000. The final 2 active roster players from the '94 Finals were eradicated, just under 5 years later. In that span the Canucks made the playoffs only twice (1995 and 1996) and only played 3 rounds combined. From that point on the team got worse and worse until 2001 when they finally made the playoffs again for the first time in 5 years.

So technically Brett Hedican was the last surviving member because he was playing and not sulking. Hedican is the only player from the 1994 squad to win a Stanley Cup in the years after (Hurricanes - 2006).

It should be noted that Dana Murzyn never played in the 1994 Finals or Sem-Finals. He suffered a knee injury in Round 2 against Dallas. Brian Glynn replaced him. Murzyn retired after the 1999 season.

Seeing how several Canucks on that roster never played "full" NHL careers it just goes to show how much that group came together as a team in that playoff run. What a team it was. Skill, mixed with smashing grit and a super hero in Kirk McLean. I'll never forget it.

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Amazing post Sean.

by blaurg on Jul 19, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

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Outstanding post Sean.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 19, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Slegr was the co-8th d-man with Adrien Plavsic. Although neither of them played a game in the playoffs, they both played a good amount of the regular season but got supplanted by the acquisitions of Hedican, Brown, and Glynn. A 6-man d-core turned into a 9-man d-core without losing anyone, pretty sick! So I’m not sure how one would decide who was 8 and who was 9.

Lumme-Murzyn
Brown-Diduck
Hedican-Babych
Glynn

Plavsic-Slegr

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 19, 2010 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I guess you could say Slegr was above Plavsic in that Plavsic played only 47 games during the season whereas Sleger played 78. But who knows who would have been dressed first if another d-man had fallen after Murzyn.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 19, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Josef Beranek

That name hurts.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 19, 2010 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Great post.

You can really see how several bone-headed moves really tanked the team, although looking back at what players did after they left…there was a decline there anyways.

Other comments:

I remember how excited I was with the Mogilny trade… “ZOMG!!! Bure and Mogilny on the same team??!?!?!?!?!”

The other interesting thing is to see how though the team was getting dismantled, at the end you could see the start of the recovery with Jovo, Bertuzzi and McCabe coming over.

by hailstop on Jul 19, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah you bet. I left out all the free agent signings. There were some failures there as well. Ahem Gary Leeman ahem

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 19, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hated, hated, hated that trade

I remember my brother-in-law telling me: “We got Mogilny!”
“Wow! Who for?”
“Peca, someone named Wilson and a first round pick!”
“FUCK!”

We needed centres desperately, and Mogilny wasn’t one of them, while Peca was and emerging Selke nominee. As far as talent went, Vancouver won the trade; but it wasn’t what we needed. The Canucks picked up a player without thinking what he would do for the team, or what parts were actually missing.

by Thursday on Jul 19, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well had imagine if they hadn’t made the trade, and then Bure still got injured. You think Peca/Wilson/that picked would have been able to fill in? I still think it was a good trade. The deathnail to that year was Bure’s knee. That knee destroyed what could have been.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 19, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still hated it. An enormous first line and nothing else doesn’t do a damn thing for me. Might as well fly a plane with one wing and no tail.

by Thursday on Jul 19, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well the defense was decimated, the forwards were much deeper than one line!

Bure
Mogilny
Linden
Ronning
R Courtnall
Tikanen halfway through the season (scored 37 points in 38 games)
Gelinas (scored 30 goals that year!)

A young Scott Walker, Gino, and Tim Hunter as role players/bruisers.

Our D was certainly on the decline, although a very good year from Lumme.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Further proof that an offensive forward wasn’t what we needed. Who in that list would you use as a defencive one? Gelinas, in another four seasons, but not yet; Walker, certainly; and…?

Peca and Wilson (and McKee, if Vancouver picked him) would have helped for years to come. Don’t forget that Gelinas (and everyone else) got Bure’s ice time, too.

by Thursday on Jul 19, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok well I agree they had some big holes… I’m just trying to say they weren’t ONLY one line. They had two very solid scoring lines even without Bure in the lineup.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 19, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it also serves as a lesson to not just make trades to ‘Do Something!!!!’

by hailstop on Jul 19, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Reliving those years really sucks!

by Sandwich76 on Jul 19, 2010 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Great post, Sean

Ah, Shawn Antoski! (He was a left-winger, not a d-man.) I remember that draft as it was held at BC Place stadium. My friends and I (who were all studying at UBC during that era) went drinking the night before at the Cambie, and continued at a rave which was held off of Industrial Ave., just east of Main Street (which is probably conod buildings now), went and had breakfast, and then made our way to the stadium, along with more than 19,000 other hockey fans.

That was the year that Owen Nolan was drafted first overall by the Nordiques (or as Dick Irvin used to pronounce it, “The Nor-dick”), and Petr Nedved went to us 2nd overall. Antoski was our 2nd pick in the first round (18th overall, I think). We left after his selection, but had my friends and I stuck around we would have seen Keith Tkachuk and Marty Brodeur(!) get drafted AFTER Antoski. Oh, and Jaromir Jagr was drafted 5th overall by the Pens. There was some issue about his availability as the communist system in eastern Europe had not fully disintegrated at that point. Nedved, some of you may remember, had defected from his Czech midget team at a Christmas-time tournament in Calgary a couple of years prior.

by east_van_joe on Jul 19, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Antoski the winger? Damn I made the same mistake again!

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 19, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man!

I never understood letting Cliff Ronning go, but for the most part it goes to show how little Vancouver developed their own talent!

There were a lot of draft picks that either crashed and burned or got sent away to greater success elsewhere in those years as the team tried to trade for a winner or sign free agents at the expense of their youth and picks.

by Thursday on Jul 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Crossbar

Lafayette hit the crossbar…I still see that shot every May, when sleep wn’t come and the Canucks are knocked out of the playoffs…

by Underachiever11 on Jul 19, 2010 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

nah it was the post

See?

Courtnall got cranked after making that pass too yet

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 19, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what I like?

Looking through Vancouver’s draft history, and seeing that not a single player drafted in the past three years (not counting 2010, of course) has played a single game in the NHL yet.

No desperation call-ups, no forced growth, no “direct to the big club and hope” BS. It’s a good sign.

by Thursday on Jul 19, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice post, Sean. Hurts to read about the aftermath again.

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by cyxj on Jul 19, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

16 years after the run...

… and finally the first complete chronicle that includes how it all dissolved. Great post Sean! Those frustrating years after, forever losing assets that we could have rallied upon (Walker and Peca were captains of Nashville and Buffalo respectively) Or losing assets for free, like Ronning, Hunter, Courtnall. By themselves they meant not much. But together these were the heart and soul of that 94 team, filling in holes in 2-4 th lines. Oh wait, we are still searching to complete those lines, 16 years later.

Looking back, maybe those dark ages are the reason why we can smell free riders a mile away – we had ENTIRE team of free riders.

by nucklinBadger on Jul 19, 2010 5:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Oh just to be clear I meant the late 90s teams were mostly free riders, not that magical 94 team. Ahhh, no previews available in mobile mode.

by nucklinBadger on Jul 19, 2010 5:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

How times have changed, indeed.

How times have changed, huh? Vancouver would beat the Blues in 7 games in Round 1 and then get swept by the Blackhawks in Round 2 (yeah, those back-to-back OT goals by Chelios…UGH). Lousy defence. Lousy I say! And it was all downhill from there.

Yep. Squeak by in round one, get dismantled in round two with lousy defense. It’s been our MO for the past sixteen years.

by creeperjones on Jul 19, 2010 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously though.

Most of these trades hit like a ton of bricks. It was sad to watch so many players I loved being dealt away. I was too young to understand what a firesale was, and I’m glad. Mogilny was an exciting day, though. Too bad.

by creeperjones on Jul 19, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Wasn't

Jeff Brown sleeping with Kirk McLean’s wife? or the other way around?

I remember Gelinas only on NHL 98 and the dude who scored that OT winner against Auld to let Calgary advance.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 19, 2010 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Rumored McLean’s wife yeah.

BTW, thanks for the kind words, everyone.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 20, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve read many strong denials of that rumours in various places over the years. But I’ve decided it is true for the purposes of it makes for a good story and is my go-to excuse for the post-94 massive fail.

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 20, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

very impressive my friend

we disagree about luongo…no worries…but when credit is due…well it’s due…awesome job of chronicling those yrs…opened the memory floodgates…i’m forever reminiscing about 82 and 94 with the 7 canadians i hang out with here in sydney oz…as someone said in one of the posts…heart and soul players…THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A NUCK…with some skill (of course)…but heart and soul first…cue CURT FRASER-led all playoff players in 82 with fight minutes and had 10 points over 17 games…HERO…and of course…the greatest canuck ever… TREV…i still well up every time i see that video of TREV they put together with tom cochrane’s (play in the big leagues)…A TRUE NHL SUPERSTAR

by vanmaac on Jul 20, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unlucky Canucks

Is there a stat out there that tracks the following: which ever team beats the Canucks in the playoffs generally either win the Cup or are a finalist???

by iceman22 on Jul 20, 2010 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m putting up a FanPost about this!

by Beantown Canuck on Jul 20, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

or start a long line of losers….

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by missy on Jul 20, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great post, Sean. How quickly they went from SC finalists to, what, about 5 years of suck. The Messier/Keenan years were miserable.

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by Smoboy41 on Jul 20, 2010 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

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