Where The Canucks Stand Heading Into The 2010 Free Agency
by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 3:16 PM PDT
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It's about that time. The few days a year you hope your team puts some things in motion that will make you happy between September and June. At this time last year, Vancouver was close to losing the Sedins, a move that would have changed their entire team (and robbed them of their first Art Ross and Hart Trophy winner). They also didn't know if Luongo would be sticking around, but Gillis made sure the trio - along with that Kesler guy - aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
With the dust starting to settle on the biggest trade Gillis has made to date (Grabner/Ballard), it becomes more evident what needs to happen this summer. After the jump, we'll take a look at who's coming and going, where the holes are and what some of our rivals may be up to.
Pending UFAs: Alexandre Bolduc, Pavol Demitra, Ryan Johnson, Yan Stastny, Matt Pettinger, Kyle Wellwood, Brad Lukowich, Willie Mitchell, Lawrence Nycholat, Nathan McIver, Andrew Raycroft
Key needs: By signing Cory Schneider earlier this month, Gills solidified the back-up role left vacant by the departing Raycroft. Schneider will continue to be talked about as trade bait, so if that happens, Vancouver will be on the lookout for another cheap back-up as they have none in the pipeline.
Potential targets: Until Dan Hamhuis and Anton Volchenkov sign somewhere, they'll be linked to MG's mad dash at all things defense. Paul Martin could be another top pairing choice while potential secondary targets could be the likes of Zbynek Michalek or Jordan Leopold. It's likely they'll keep an eye on Willie Mitchell when he begins skating in July, but so will 29 other teams.
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You sir
are insane.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 29, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I can only assume you mean insanely good at suggesting trades that will never happen.
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Why
yes indeed that is exactly what I meant.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
“Well, the Flames season was like this, but then Sutter traded for Ales Kotalik, and….[makes plane crash hand gesture]”
Haha
I do enjoy that Aquilini is looking at him like he’s insane.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
“If you want a full on rosterbation moment…”
with Armstrong, Poni, or Stepniak? let the snake breathe already, jeez. This type of plesure should only happen if we get hamhuis AND volchenkov on july 1.
Hey, sometimes love hurts!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
Welcome to the site!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a query Mike.
When you mention the Cap space available to our competitors, I think you forget one thing, or maybe I didn’t read it right.
The other teams…maybe the Flames spend to the limit…but the Oilers? Wild and Avs?
Some teams do have a self imposed Cap of less than the limit.
True, I don’t know if they can spend to the limit. But we do know what their hard limit is at this very second. Whether they spend to it or not we’ll figure out by the end of the summer. My hunch would be most will come close to the limit, save the Oilers who may not if they think they’re headed for another rebuilding year.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m guessing that with a $550,000 cap hit and having played 2/3rds of the season last year, the team is expecting Oreskovich to be slotted into the 3rd/4th line… what do you think?
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 3:49 PM PDT reply actions
I would say
That’s a fair assessment. Whip him into shape over the summer/training camp and make sure he uses his size effectively.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Maybe, but he has to earn it. If someone outworks him in camp (which after seeing what Glass and Desbiens did last year it’s certainly possible) then he won’t. Just because he made Florida’s bottom six doesn’t mean he makes ours.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone with size, and slotted for the 3rd/4th line? Why does that sound like good ol’ Stone Hands? Except he’s getting paid a quarter as much.
by Vancouverguy on Jun 29, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You should see
Oreskovich youtube compilation of finished hits. Pretty good hitter – something the Canucks have missed for a long time. Even if he doesn’t put the puck in the net having a “Puck Seperator AKA the crusher” would be a welcome addition to next years team.
credited with 99 hits in 50 games—some of the best numbers on the Panthers. not convinced as to his ability to actually play hockey, but he’s still young.
by Passive Voice on Jun 29, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ballard is a well-regarded hitter too, one of the reasons I like the dude
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Ack, good point. I fix.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
All better now, thanks again
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
grrrr
Fixed. Thanks!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 30, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Modano intrigues me…but then reality sets in.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 29, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You know…Shannon was on SNET saying that he is in freakish shape…like Rob Brind Amour shape…and he thought he thought it would be retire of the “perfect” spot where he and the missus can both do their thing…she’s an actress too.
Hello?
Hollywood North.
Mikey would look awesome as a 3rd line centre. As long as we can get him for the right price…the guy can still play the game very well.
Hot
damn.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 29, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t Manny Malhotra invited to Canucks camp last fall and released??
So many defencemen….so little time. I wonder if both SOB and Bieksa are going to get flogged
i don’t think he was ever in camp. they had dave scatchard and cut him, don’t remember anybody more notable than him.
Strange…i do remember malhotra was coming…don’t know if he did or not in the end.
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Scatchard, Parrish…not sure if Malhotra was on the list
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 29, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yikes, I just went and looked at what Parrish did last year in TB. 16 games played (lowest of his career), two assist and a -5 with 10 SOG.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
i found this
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2009/8/24/1000875/dave-scatchard-at-canucks-training
which has some confusion about who was coming to camp. i think he was skating with the canuck players in their pre-camp workouts, but never actually made it to camp.
Yeah that’s why I had him as ‘rumored.’ He was practicing in Vancouver last season at optional skates before moving along to SJS.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I lol’d at the caption.
Let’s just go full rosterbation here for a second… let’s say we sign Hamhuis, Martin, Madden, Asham, Stempniak and Cullen, and then trade Bieksa. We then get a roster something like this:
Danny – Hank – Burr
Raymond – Kes – Sammy
Stempniak – Hodgson – Cullen
Asham – Madden – Rypien/Hansen
Hamhuis – Ehrhoff
Martin – Edler
Ballard – Salo
Alberts/Rome
Luongo
Schneider
Now THAT is a rosterbation-worthy team. Holy fuck is that D ever stacked! omfgnucksforthecupwowweresostackedholyshitholyshitholyshitthisisamazingomfgomfgomfg.
And then reality sets in that this is impossible. sigh sniffle
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ONLY sign six guys?
C’mon, you need to at least sign seven if I’m going to pull a muscle rosterbating.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, maybe I should add Kovalchuk to that too. Yeah, I think that would round out the roster nicely.
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Kovalchuk and Jagr. Throw in Yashin too. Suck on that oil barons!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Why don’t we take Ciccarelli while we’re at it? He’ll do great for us when we play the Leafs…
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DO WANT
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"One time I was invited to come to a social gathering. I was paid a handsome amount of money, and I brought a shotgun and a bottle of Tanqueray and showed those people the best f***ing time they’ve ever seen." - Kenny Powers
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 29, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Rangers
would resign him for 10 mill a season for 8 seasons before we got even a look at him.
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"One time I was invited to come to a social gathering. I was paid a handsome amount of money, and I brought a shotgun and a bottle of Tanqueray and showed those people the best f***ing time they’ve ever seen." - Kenny Powers
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 29, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they should take a good long look at Zbynek Michalek — top D on a good defensive team last year, played with Ballard in his early days in Phoenix and his right hand shot would be useful on the powerplay and make Bieksa more realistically expendable. Maybe Bieksa would help bring some top 9 grit.
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my suspicion is that Michalek’s pretty set on going to OTT to play with his bruvva.
by Passive Voice on Jun 29, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh like family bonds are that strong that brothers would want to…
…aww shit.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a good theory. I’ll bet Sens fans would be pretty excited at the prospect
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by ThomasPratt on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
bah! don’t fall for that brotherly bs!
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Michalek
Also has connections with Bowness, Gilman, Ballard. Fingers crossed.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
I've heard
That he really wants to play with his brother though
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I wasn't aware...
…that Cullen was a former client for Gillis. That all but seals the deal, eh?
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Hmm...
…Nice find! Now, about that price…
Oreskovich looks more fourth line than third to me just now, assuming he makes the team at all. He’s bringing physicality, not scoring; and he only played 9 minutes per game in Florida. Maybe pop him in front of the net on the power play? That is one thing I’ll say for Gillis’ two pick-ups so far: both are very physical, even if I’m not convinced of their skills.
Cullen a former Gillis client…welllll sheeeeit
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 29, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
and Gillis wants a PK’er. Cullen is a wizard at that..hmm
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 29, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe pop him in front of the net on the power play?
Yes please. He can be our baby buff.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Decaf?
Get him off the sauce already, he needs all the cafeine he can get.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
before i go to bed....
NHLSourcesSay
Pavol Demitra will not be back with the Canucks next season. I can confirm that the Thrashers will target Demitra as there 2nd line center.
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So, what exactly is Mike Gillis up to?
lol
god help them, if that is true.
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"One time I was invited to come to a social gathering. I was paid a handsome amount of money, and I brought a shotgun and a bottle of Tanqueray and showed those people the best f***ing time they’ve ever seen." - Kenny Powers
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 29, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
second line?!
Does Atlanta not have access to video archives or something?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 29, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Do not
want Stempniak. He had a 30% shooting percentage in Phoenix. There’s no way he’s keeping that up.
Mat Cullen. Yes. Yes. Yes. Please and thank you.
Mike Madano and the wifey got divorced.
It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties
Alexei Ponikarovsky and whatnot:
No, no, no. If Poni is signed by the Canucks I’ll punch my computer to death.
No to Morrison, I bet he’ll end up in Toronto for a 3rd/4th line kick at the can.
Yes to Hamhuis, and kinda-yes to Volchenkov (who will be signed by the Caps),
I’m still leery of Ottawa’s farm system.
No to Kariya because he ends up in Pittsburgh with Crosby.
No to Modano because he’s f%#king old and spent.
Yes to Moreau and Asham on the 4th line, they’ll be worth their weight in playoff gold.
Yes to Ray Whitney showing Hodgson/Schroeder the ropes at a reasonable price.
No to Armstrong due to the likelihood of overpayment/bad penalty issues.
Maybe to Jamal Mayers for toughness.
Yes to Cullen with the Stanley Cup bling.
Why have Mayers
when you have Rypper, who can fight like Ali on speed, and can actually play hockey, unlike Mayers?
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"One time I was invited to come to a social gathering. I was paid a handsome amount of money, and I brought a shotgun and a bottle of Tanqueray and showed those people the best f***ing time they’ve ever seen." - Kenny Powers
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 30, 2010 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions
CC:
Just in case we need some extra playoff grit on the 3rd-4th line, the Kurtenblog mentioned his usefullness in his short spell with the Flames late last season. If we signed the likes of Asham I’d say Mayers skill set would not be required.
I guess so
but I feel like Mayers has been tainted with the stench of Toronto and Calgary and is a marginal hockey player anyways.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 30, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry guys but I’m a noob. This is my first offseason. What is actually happening on Thursday (Fri my time)? All contracts end so people are just going to be signed all over the place? And with the magical 12 noon time is it all happening after that time? How long does the madness usually last, hours or days? Thanks :)
Right
12 noon EST is the start of free agency so anyone who is going to unrestricted free agency (UFA) status is allowed to sign with any team, typically the one who offers the best deal. Those who are in restricted free agency (RFA) status can be tendered offer sheets which Sean/Beantown went into a few days ago.
July 1st used to be a runner up to the trade deadline, but due to the cap, there are more moves typically done on the first few days of July than there is at the deadline. So you’ll see a lot of immediate deals tomorrow afternoon and then some others will float in during the course of next week. Other GM’s will wait until the bedlam dies down and you’ll find some deals later in July as well.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 30, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions
sounds like retirement:
MikeSundheim
Rod Brind’Amour will hold a news conference at 2:30 today. It will be avail.streaming on http://carolinahurricanes.com.
Rod is from my hometown of Campbell River, here on the island. in fact, we even went to the same elementary school (we had an autographed poster of him framed and put on the wall in the main hallway). he brought Stanley to town in 2006.
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So, what exactly is Mike Gillis up to?
Another BC boy that I always wanted on this team
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
That pic of him in BC with the cup and he’s standing near a river? Hilarious…he looked like a jacked super hero on vacation.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 30, 2010 8:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i’m gonna take a wild guess and say it was the Campbell River (hence the name of our town)
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So, what exactly is Mike Gillis up to?
I lived in campbell river for a while when I first moved to BC. Worked at the music store (no surprise there) and DJ’d at…uh…shoot…damn thc… some hotel dance club.
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here it is
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 30, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
of course, the only real hockey memory i have of him is when he didn’t want to wait for bettman to finish his presentation before taking the Cup :)
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So, what exactly is Mike Gillis up to?
about 2 minutes in. awesome.
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So, what exactly is Mike Gillis up to?
Haha
I’m almost finished!
Yoink!
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All the respect due...
…the li’l weasel. Stop talkin’ and let the guys who earned the Cup have it already!
Back in high school we would go to Strathcona Park for a week of outdoorsy bonding orientation type stuff every year in September, and I recall we’d stop off at Campbell River for food (read: McDonalds) on the way back.
Did a 70km canoe ride on Upper Campbell Lake the year I was in Grade 11 I believe… gorgeous. The lake is freshly glacier-fed so we would just dip our cups in the water as we paddled by and drink if we got thirsty… no need to purify or anything. It’s practically the stuff they bottle.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 30, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
my aunt, uncle, and cousin would come over from the mainland almost every summer and camp at Upper Campbell Lake, and my grandparents would join them out there with the motorhome.
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So, what exactly is Mike Gillis up to?
yep, retirement just announced.
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So, what exactly is Mike Gillis up to?
Aportzline
Dispatch: #CBJ have claimed LW Ethan Moreau off waivers.
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wise move by CBJ, I don’t care what anyone says
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t want him at 2m, but yeah, if you have the cap space I think it’s a good move.
Right now (assuming Raymond is resigned and goes to L2, and the rest of the RFAs are resigned), our bottom six looks like this:
Hansen-Hodgson-Oreskovich
Glass-Rypien-Hordichuk
Yeah, that needs work.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
I imagine
Reworking the third line was part of Gillis’ “we’re not done yet” notion
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Needs more Lombardi :)
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 30, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh god
Hordichuk should not be a roster player on Vancouver.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 30, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He might do more...
…with Columbus than with Edmonton. But he isn’t exactly a face-off master, which doesn’t help if you’re relied on to be a top PK guy. Still, versatile and reasonably cheap while having good size, plus he’s going into his contract year and has to know this is going to be his last shot at a retirement fund…
Free agent forwards who should interest the Canucks. There are a few names there I’ve seen discussed here.
Guys I want that are realistically attainable...
-Michalek
-Tallinder
-Morrisonn
-Armstrong
-Fedotenko
-Asham
-Cullen
-Ryan Johnson (1 more year for less)
-Malhotra
I’m assuming Raymond, Glass and Hansen stay, and Hordichuk and hopefully Bieksa out. So basically need to address the shutdown D role and 3rd/4th line holes.
The lineup would look something like this:
Dank-Hank-Burrows
MayRay-Kes-Sammy
Armstrong/Fedotenko-Hodgson/Cullen-Hansen
Asham/Glass-Johnson/Malhotra-Rypien/Oyster
Ballard-Salo
Edler-Ehrhoff
Michalek/Morrisonn/Tallinder-SOBAlberts/Rome
I’m not in the mood to do cap number stuff right now, let’s just assume it would be at the cap.
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