Assemble Your 2010-11 Canucks Roster
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 12, 2010 3:37 PM PDT
in The Gillis Era
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There is no rest for Nucks Misconduct yet. Not with the NHL Awards coming up on June 23 and the draft on June 25-26. They are followed very quickly by free agency season a few days later. The lull in the Canucks news front is about to change.
But before that happens, let's rosterbate. I don't mean tell us which certain free agents you want though. I mean show us your ideal Canucks roster for 2010-11 that fits under the projected salary cap of $58.8 million US, or be safe and aim for the current $56.8 million cap. The cap increase is not official yet. Let's say you'll need 13 forwards, 7 defencemen and 2 goalies for your roster and all count against the cap. I'm not going to get all technical about the salary cap because I am no capologist. You can read about it at NHLSCAP.com if you'd like. One thing, if you are signing a player long-term on a descending-scale contract the cap hit for the year is the overall average of that contract. That is uber-important for saving dollars (like Luongo's contract for example.)
-Here is a list of Unrestricted Free Agents this summer at CapGeek.
-Here is a list of current signed Canucks' salaries, and the dollar values of Canucks that are entering UFA and RFA status.
-If you are going to get ballsy and take a stab at another team's restricted free agent (you poacher, you):
Here is a complete list of RFA's in the West.
Here is a complete list of RFA's in the East.
Alright, here is my opening night roster:
FORWARDS
Henrik Sedin: $6.1 million
Daniel Sedin: $6.1
Ryan Kesler: $5.0
Mason Raymond: $3.25
Mikael Samuelsson: $2.5
Colby Armstrong: $2.4
Alexandre Burrows: $2.0
Steve Bernier: $2.0
Cody Hodgson: $1.695833
Jannik Hansen: $.85
Michael Grabner: $0.843
Tanner Glass: $0.6
Rick Rypien: $0.55
=33.888833
DEFENCE
Kevin Bieksa: $3.75
Sami Salo: $3.50
Alexander Edler: $3.25
Christian Ehrhoff: $3.10
Sean O'Donnell: $1.250
Andrew Alberts: $1.05
Aaron Rome: .60
=16.50
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo: $5.33
Cory Schneider: $0.900
=6.23
GRAND TOTAL: 56.618833
Yeah, Gillis may hint at wanting a D-man who can log over 30:00 per game, but he's going to have to give somebody significant up to get it, it will cost him a fortune, and the Canucks are not loaded with cap space. I took the steadiness and physicality and leadership of O'Donnell on D and the brute force plus offensive skill of Colby Armstrong up front.
BTW, I traded Hordichuk for a Stan Smyl hockey card and let Ryan Johnson go. GASP!
What would you do?
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Signings:
- S. Niedermayer @ 5.0 for 1/2 yrs
- Coburn @ 2.8 for 3-5 yrs
- Selanne @ 1.7 for 1/2 yrs
- M. Mottau @ 1.6 for 2 yrs
- Wellwood @ 1.2 for 2 yrs
- R. Niedermayer @ 1.1 for 1/2 yrs
Daniel Sedin (6.0) – Henrik Sedin (6.0) – Alex Burrows (2.0)
Mason Raymond (2.7) – Ryan Kesler (5.0) – Teemu Selanne (1.7)
Kyle Wellwood (1.2) – Rob Niedermayer (1.1) – Mikael Samuelsson (2.5)
Michael Grabner (0.8) – Rick Rypien (0.6) – Cody Hodgson (1.7)
Jannik Hansen (1.0)
Sami Salo (3.5) – Alex Edler (3.3)
Christian Ehrhoff (3.1) – Braydon Coburn (2.8)
Scott Niedermayer (5.0) – Mike Mottau (1.6)
Aaron Rome (0.6)
Roberto Luongo (5.3)
Cory Schneider (1.0)
Forwards: 32.3M
Defensemen: 19.9M
Goalies: 6.3M
Total: 58.6M
- bury Hordichuk/Alberts in the minors or trade him for minimal return
- trade Bieksa for a 2nd rounder or prospect
- trade Bernier for a 3rd/4th rounder
Not gonna lie im kinda creaming over that team
If only we could sign Scott Niedermayer for real :P
by okgo570 on Jun 12, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Holy fucking shit
DO WANT! But you’re a bit over the cap. And Niedermayer on the third pairing irks me. He’s getting paid 5 mill, can’t he move up? :P
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 12, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I was pondering Rob Niedermayer too. But we have so many centers already. Your roster has 6! Ah well. People put their teams up and we’ll keep debating the possibilities.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 12, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I only got Rob Niedermayer on the Canucks so we could get Scott. And once we get Scott, we’d probably get Selanne too. As for the Henrik and Kesler, no explanation needed why they are there. Wellwood is one of the best third-liners we’ve had in a while and it’s sad to see him go this season. Hopefully he can afford a few hundred more thousand dollar menu meals at Burger King in another city. Rick Rypien is also one of the best bottom-six forwards that’s been on the Canucks lately; heart, passion, effort… he has it all. And Hodgson will probably play a third line role if we don’t get Selanne.
I know I’m at 58.6 which is right there at the cap, and I think Philly would match if we offered Coburn 2.8. But it’s just a rough idea.
Where did you get your cap stats from?
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 12, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
both niedermayers and selanne?
keep dreaming, darling.
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My thought process is we get Rob (sort of an easy target) to lure in Scott. If Scott comes, I can see a 50-50 chance Selanne comes too.
well, what i mean is it would be nice to get 1 of the 3, but getting all of them here is quite hard to see happening.
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Sorry dude
I see 0.5% chance of Niedermayer coming here (and I don’t want him anyways) and even less with Selanne.
I suppose we’re all doing this different ways.
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didn’t know he was from Vancouver..hmm
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 12, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Bring those BC boys home…..except Rob Niedermayer.
A creep from the cradle, but a hero's what I want to be
End of the day, I wouldn’t want Niedermayer either. Rob that is.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 12, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Even Scott, seems uninterested in playing. Accomplished everything..I think he retires. We’ll know within 2 weeks what he’s doing. He has to make his mind up before the draft. I think Selanne is retiring too.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 12, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Great idea, but I need time to sort it out. Hopefully will get to it at some point soon.
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by nucksandpucks on Jun 12, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Sedin(6.1) – Sedin(6.1) – Burrows (2)
Grabner(.765) – Kesler(5) – Samuelsson(2.5)
Hansen(.85) – Hodgson(.875) – Lucic(4)
Glass(0.5) – Johnson(1.1) – Rypien(.55)
CAP HIT – 30.34
Komisarek(4.5) – Ehrhoff(3.1)
Edler(3.25) – Mitchell (3.5)
Hamhuis(2.5) – Salo(3.5)
O’Brien(1.6)
CAP HIT – 21.95
Luongo (5.3)
Schneider (.9)
CAP HIT – 6.2
TOTAL – 58.49
Trade Raymond and Bieksa for Komisarek, and Bernier, Oberg(or another prospect) and maybe a 4th for Lucic.
Nice work. It really wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Mitchell can come back
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 12, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there’s no way we get Hamhuis for that low of a price, and no one Mitchell either unless he gives a hometown discount. Boston would never give up Lucic (as much as I would like him), and I think the cap hit on Komisarek is just simply not worth what he offers.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 12, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Hammer wants market value. That is what he said
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 12, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
DO NOT WANT
Komi. From what Ive heard, he is slow, and the only way I see a slow defenseman being useful is as a shut-down guy, and he is fail at that too. I have watched quite a few Leafs games when he played and it is ugly. He is being paid too much money for only decent defensive ability. He plays in Toronto and in the East, I’d pass. I’d take Coburn instead.
Otherwise, awesome roster.
I’ll post mine soon enough. Gotta think about a roster, cap hits, etc.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 12, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Coburn was near atrocity in much of the playoffs
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Fucking hell
I was hoping that since he made the SCF and was in the PHI top 4 he was decent. I know Lavvy was playing basically only his top 4, as Krajicek and Parent are fucking horrible defensemen.
I dont know who to get then…
Grebeshkov? Zbynek Michalek? Marc Staal? Jay McKee? ( I wouldn’t mind McKee at all).
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions
He was in the top 4, but you could also say he was on their bottom pairing considering that they rolled with four defenseman for a large portion of the playoffs.
The fact you bring up Marc Staal reminds me on this article that Derek Zona wrote. Perhaps we could be a good team to try offering both Giradi and Staal offer sheets.
Hammer
will get market value, this I am sure of. So is Sean. 4.5-5 mill, hell even 5.5 or 6 if Sutter or Sather get involved.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 12, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps a long term, front-loaded deal to lower that cap hit? Guess that’s not feasible when you’re trying to drop the number from 4.5-2.5.
Same with Lucic for 4. Can’t see us getting Lucic for that, Boston would try everything to match that.
by Vancouverguy on Jun 12, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe this?
Yr 1: 8.0 NTC
Yr 2: 7.0 NTC
Yr 3: 5.0 NTC
Yr 4: 5.0 NTC
Yr 5: 2.5
Yr 6: 1.5
Yr 7: 1.0
7 years, 30 million, $4.3M cap hit
For Hammer? The chances of him signing here are slim. The whole fishbowl thing.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Makes sense
The media and fans can be relentless sometimes :P
Its a lot to take. Thats why when I heard that Cammo jumped at the chance to sign in MTL, I thought he was absolutely nuts. If he thought Calgary was bad….MTL is on a whole other level when it comes to fishbowl-ness. Even Briere didn’t sign in his home province with the Habs because the pressure is too much and the fans are crazy.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions
some people don’t mind it. Dan’s pretty humble and laid back. From Smithers after all :)
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions
pretty sure hodgson’s gonna cost twice that with bonuses. also hamhuis. and we’re not getting lucic for nothing.
by Passive Voice on Jun 13, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
but the bonuses count against next year’s cap, no?
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
If we’re going to get rid of MayRay and trade for Lucic, I would much rather see these lines -
D Sedin – H Sedin – Samuelsson
Burrows – Kesler – Lucic
Grabner – Hodgson – Hansen
Glass – Johnson – Rypien
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
Sign Mitchell to 1 year, $2 million
Trade Bieksa to someone for a 2nd rounder
Use that 2nd rounder to make a 4 year/$12 million to Hjalmersson
Sign Neidermayer to 1 year, $5 million
Sedin (6.1) – Sedin (6.1) – Sammy (2.5)
Raymond (3.2) – Kesler(5) – Burrows (2.0)
Hansen(.85) – Hodgson(.875) – Grabner/Schroeder (.875)
Glass(0.5) – Madden (3.0) – Rypien(.55)
Salo (3.5) – Mitchell (2.0)
Hjalmersson (3.0) – Neidermayer (5.0)
Oberg (.5) – Edler (3.5)
Lou (5.3)
Schneider (.9)
Cap hit: 57.1 or so
count it
What's your number source?
2010-11 VANCOUVER CANUCKS
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
- Mason Raymond ($3.200m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
- Jannik Hansen ($0.850m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.696m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m)
- Tanner Glass ($0.500m) / * madden ($3.000m) / Rick Rypien ($0.550m)
Michael Grabner ($0.843m)
DEFENSEMEN - Willie Mitchell ($2.000m) / Sami Salo ($3.500m)
- niedermeyer ($5.000m) / * Hjalmersson ($3.000m)
Evan Oberg ($1.562m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)
Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) / Cory Schneider ($0.900m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 22; CAP:$58.8m; PAYROLL: $61.010m; CAP ROOM: $-0.098m BONUSES: $2.112m
Edler, Grabner, Schroeder and Oberg all have different hits in capgeek than yours, bonuses aside.
Also, where’s Erhoff in your breakdown? He was a key man this season!
alright..thanks for the tips i cant believe i left out erhoff.
Signings:
Resign Mitchell to 1 year, $2 million
Sign Neidermayer to 1 year, $5 million
Sign Madden to 1 year, $3.0 million
Resign SOB to 2 years, $3.6 million
Resign Raymond to 3 years, $9.6 million
Trades:
Trade Bieksa for picks/prospects
Trade Bernier for picks/bags of pucks
Trade Salo for picks/prospects
One of those trades needs to get a 2nd round pick back
Offer sheets:
2nd rounder from Bieksa/Bernier/Salo trade to make a 4 year/$12 million offer to Hjalmersson
Final Roster:
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
- Mason Raymond ($3.200m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m)* / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
- Jannik Hansen ($0.850m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.696m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m)
Michael Grabner ($0.843m) /Madden ($3.000m) / Darcy Hordichuk ($0.775m)
Rick Rypien ($0.550m) / * Tanner Glass ($0.500m)
- Neidermayer ($5.000m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)
Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m) / * Hjalmersson ($3.000m) - Willie Mitchell ($2.000m) / * Shane O’Brien ($1.800m)
Evan Oberg ($1.562m)
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) / Cory Schneider ($0.900m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 23; CAP: $58.8m; PAYROLL: $60.085m; CAP ROOM: $0.828m BONUSES: $2.112m
major overhaul on d, but really we need it
I dont want to live in a world
where Darcy Hordichuk is once again a roster player on the Canucks.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
For an offer sheet you need your own second rounder, not any second rounder.
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FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Mason Raymond ($3.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
Steve Bernier ($2.000m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.696m) / Michael Grabner ($0.843m)
Jannik Hansen ($0.750m) / Ryan Johnson ($0.700m) / Tanner Glass ($0.550m)
Rick Rypien ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Scott Niedermeyer ($5.000m) / Adrian Aucoin ($2.400m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Sami Salo ($3.500m)
Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)/ Willie Mitchell ($3.000m)
Andrew Alberts ($1.050m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) / Cory Schneider ($0.900m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 22; CAP:$58.8m; PAYROLL: $59.322m; CAP ROOM: $0.328m BONUSES: $0.850m
Maybe needs more sandpaper on the 4th, but I like my 3 scoring lines with 3 puck moving D pairs and a Salo Mitchell shutdown combo. Also puts Neidermeyer on PP with Salo and Edler and Erhoff on 2nd unit, instead of effing Demitra on 1st unit point, groan.
Also, in a dream world, one might get less for Raymond or Mitchell and one might trade a Glass for another banger with more skill or a Johnson for another faceoff man with better corsi potential. (I know, we hates it, but montreal took Ryan Johnsons brand of hockey only so far…you gotta outshoot them eventually to outscore them)
d.sedin 6.1 h.sedin 6.1 samuelson 2.5
grabner .843 kesler 5 raymond 3
raffi torres 2.25 hodgeson 1.69583 burrows 2
hansen .85 r.niedemayer 1 rypien .55
t.glass .6
total 32.38833
salo 3.5 hamhuis 3.5
edler 3.25 s.niedemayer 5
ehrhoff 3.1 rome .6
Oberg .5
total 19.45
loungo 5.33
schneider .9
total 6.23
total= 58.06833
I’m not convinced the market will settle at 4+
He could be anywhere from 3.5 – 4.5 I think, depending on other terms. If you look at comparable d-men in the league, that’s the going rate for what he offers (solid no. 3 defensive d-man who can chip in 25-30 points).
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 13, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Once scenario I see for rebuilding the back end. I’ve signed Erik Johnson to an offer sheet that cost me a first, a second and a third round pick (at least according to the compensation schedule I found). I also made John Davidson cry. I signed Michalek as a UFA. I hope $4 is enough, though.
I put Bieksa in Manitoba where he belongs (if I could trade him, I would, but I assume other GMs have access to video and will quickly see in Kevin what we all know — his salary is just too high for what he brings. I believe buying him out would put me over the cap, so Aquaman will just have to eat the contract). I put Salo on LTIR. He missed the season after he broke a leg while sleeping in addition to having to wait a long time for a testicle transplant.
Now I know what some of you will say — Boogaard!?!?! Ewwww. Yes. He has questionable skills and this is likely an experiment doomed to ignominious failure. However, in the spirit of a copycat league, I want a big man. Maybe with some coaching he would be at least not a liability and perhaps he would give Byfuglien something to think about.
Your 2010-11 Vancouver Canucks, at the cap number of $57.88133.
Henrik Sedin: $6.1
Daniel Sedin: $6.1
Ryan Kesler: $5.0
Mason Raymond: $3.25
Mikael Samuelsson: $2.5
Alexandre Burrows: $2.0
Steve Bernier: $2.0
Cody Hodgson: $1.695833
Boogaard, Derek: $1.25
Michael Grabner: $0.843
Bolduc, Alexandre: $0.70
Rick Rypien: $0.55
Desbiens, Guillaume: $0.55
Erik Johnson: $5.5
Michalek, Zbynek: $4
Alexander Edler: $3.25
Christian Ehrhoff: $3.10
Oberg, Evan: $1.5625
Andrew Alberts: $1.05
Sweatt, Lee: $0.650
Roberto Luongo: $5.33
Cory Schneider: $0.900
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
Where is Salo?
The rookies are going to be epic next year! :P
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I put Salo on LTIR. He missed the season after he broke a leg while sleeping in addition to having to wait a long time for a testicle transplant.
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
Way to read his entire comments Chuckles, geez. :)
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
Ive been drinking
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Baileys
then some Heineken.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I am
Ive gotten some Hell’s Gate Pale Ale now.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Many a varied drink. Next time if you have Tia Maria (or any other coffee based alcoholic drink) you should make a baby Guiness. 3/4s TM in a shot glass then the rest is Baileys which is poured over the back of a spoon into the glass and somehow this makes it rest on top of the TM.
(Ah, talking about alcohol so much better than doing work).
Im still
drinking
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Just had nothing to do, had a lot of TV and movies to catch up on, drank steadily throughout the entire day. You should try it.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
don’t believe E.Johnson’s offer sheet eligible this year.
by Passive Voice on Jun 13, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
k, so apparently since EJ missed a year with the golf cart hilarity, he’s only counted as having logged two years’ service time, which means he can’t be offer sheeted.
by Passive Voice on Jun 13, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
true; he’ll have essentially no bargaining power with the Blues this year (not arbitration eligible, and not eligible to sign offer sheets), which means the Blues can pay him pretty much whatever they feel like. I’m pretty sure they have a tonne of room, though, and they’ll probably look to lock him up long termish, because starting next year (if he’s without contract again summer 2011) they’ll have to worry about offer sheets.
by Passive Voice on Jun 13, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
EJ’s golf cart accident can be seen here.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I just can’t stop rosterbating.
Last week, Puck Daddy speculated that the Canucks might be in Kovalchuck. I don’t think that’s true (and I was disappointed with Puck Daddy — they’re usually more level headed than HockeysFuture forums). I’m not sure I love this roster (the D is still a weak spot), nor am I sure you could work Kovalchucks’ cap hit down to $7.5 (very long term, front loaded contract or a one year deal, al la Hossa maybe?). But if you could, your Canucks at absolute cap max of $58.78133. The same conditions apply to Erik Johnson, Bieksa and Salo as above. I’ll be the irst to admit this one is kind of silly, but I did try.
Kovalchuk, Ilya: $7.5
Henrik Sedin: $6.1
Daniel Sedin: $6.1
Ryan Kesler: $5.0
Mikael Samuelsson: $2.5
Alexandre Burrows: $2.0
Steve Bernier: $2.0
Cody Hodgson: $1.695833
Boogaard, Derek: $1
Michael Grabner: $0.843
Bolduc, Alexandre: $0.60
Rick Rypien: $0.55
Desbiens, Guillaume: $0.55
Erik Johnson: $5.5
Alexander Edler: $3.25
Christian Ehrhoff: $3.10
Oberg, Evan: $1.5625
Andrew Alberts: $1.05
Boychuk, Johnny: $1
Sweatt, Lee: $0.650
Roberto Luongo: $5.33
Cory Schneider: $0.900
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
I think I’d rather the first one you posted without Kovie. I’d take a much deeper D-line over another scorer any day. Especially since Kovie seems to have visibility problems in the playoffs…
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I agree
with Semi Colon
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
st louis will sign erik johnson to $5.5 if you offer sheet him. they’ll match anything unless they’re getting four 1st rounders, in which case its overpayment by us (and overpayment on salary). look at how much cap room the blues have and johnson is their #1 priority (nobody just lets 1st overall picks go, especially low 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks)
Probably, but I really think the Canucks are in a bind. It’s clear that having a stud D man is a necessary ingredient to contend. This year, I think, really put to lie the notion that a crew of 4-5 pretty good $3-ish million D can do the job. I suppose you could try to sign some combination of Michalek, Hamhuis or Volchenkov, but as UFA, you’ll probably have to overpay to get them, too.
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
and I wouldn’t be overpaying. Not when there’s so many peeps to re-sign
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
when you start number crunching it really makes no sense to get Kovalchuk, as Thomas’ 2nd team shows. It creates a gaping hole. Well potentially. I wouldn’t want to put that much trust in too many rookies
Heh we’ll get to see what a youngster based team looks like that with chicago next year if the cap problem reports are correct.
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If they could ever move Huet and Campbell bango problems solved
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, that’s true. It makes me think the cap is going to have to evolve to include exemptions and exceptions like in the NBA. Otherwise, it’s going to be very difficult to justify paying a guy like Kovalchuck anything close to what he feels he should be making. He’s an awesome player, but spending so much of your cap in one place and to the detriment of other areas of your team doesn’t make a lot of sense.
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-WeepingTile
unless you sign him to a lifetime deal…abuse the cap..etc. I think players’ “worth” should be decreasing in this cap world and where it is currently at. Especially when the NHL is frowning at these lifetime deals. And those are the only way of giving them their "worth without damaging team depth
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So many of you
have Mitchell in the mix. I’m not really very confident that will actually happen. Also…boogard? Come on. If you’re so desperate for an ox, the guy that actually makes you desperate for that ox will probably be sprung free from chicago in the off season anyways. But do we need one? I think it’s a waste of cap dollars. Get a defenseman who can move the ox and we’re fine.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, I saw that earlier today. It was kind of blah-blah. Kouleas’ prediction is just a prediction, and it’s way too damned early to be making those
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
you sure you’re thinking of the same article? this one is by cullen, looking at the contracts we already have, who is finishing their contracts, and who we should go for…..
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Kouleas
just said the Canucks would win the Stanley Cup next year. Here is the link to a summary of what he said, posted by MattA16 on the CDC (I know, I know). I dont watch the Score enough to know how hockey-knowledgeable Kouleas is, when I do watch all I get to see is basically him being a prick to Puck Daddy and being loud/using his hands a lot.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 4:36 PM PDT reply actions
he comes off as a retard who thinks he knows a lot (i have no idea whether this is for his audience’s sake or what).
by Passive Voice on Jun 13, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
This is easy..
Daniel Sedin (6.100) – Herin Sedin (6.100) – Mikael Samuelsson (2.500) 14.700
Mason Raymond (3.250) – Ryan Kesler (5.000) – Alexandre Burrows (2.000) 10.250
Colby Armstrong (2.500) – Cody Hodgson (1.700) – Aaron Asham (1.500) 5.700
Janick Hansen (0.850) – John Madden (1.500) – Adam Burish (1.000) 3.250
33.90
Dan Hamhuis (4.500) – Christian Ehrhoff (3.100) 7.600
Henrik Tallinder (3.000) – Alex Edler (3.250) 6.250
Ryan Parent (1.500) – Sami Salo (3.500) 5.000
18.850
Roberto Luongo 5.333
Andrew Raycroft 0.600
5.933
58.683
Assuming 58.8 million dollar cap….REALLY tight. But I’m a player kinda guy…that’s why teams hire capologists now.
Bernier, Hordichuk, Rypien, Bieksa, Alberts, and Schneider traded to acquire negotiating rights to Armstrong, Asham, Madden, Burish, Hamhuis, Tallinder, Parent
No need to wait for July 1st.
by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Jun 13, 2010 7:41 PM PDT reply actions
and you can’t afford to carry any other player on your roster as a spare..you went 12 F 6 D
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Completely not possible. You need to carry the full 22 man roster. Plain and simple.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 13, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s what I thought. Gelatinous, you have your work cut out for you! :)
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Asham was impressive. I wonder what kind of raise he wants
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the minimum is 20.
Spares aren’t necessary. if someone is injured, call up from the farm.
It’s tight yes, but I think this team would be a sure-thing to come out of the west.
by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Jun 14, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You can’t call anyone up from the farm unless you put someone on long term injury if you’re at the cap. So that means if Daniel Sedin hurts his foot and might need to sit a game or two, either you’d have to keep him out for at least 10 games and 24 days in order to call up someone else, or you have to just have a depleted roster for those 2 games. And this would be the case for any minor injury or personal issue, etc, that any player encounters at any point during the season. That’s ludicrous. You must be able to carry the 22 man roster, period. When I said you ‘need to carry the full 22 man roster’ I didn’t mean it was required by the rules, but that you would not be able to function without it.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
1. Why the fuck did we trade for Parent?
2. Why the fuck did we sign Parent after trading for his rights?
3. And why the fuck did Parent get signed for $1.5 million?
Ryan Parent
is an absolutely horrible defenseman. Do not want.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 13, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t he paired with Pronger? Yikes..
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Dream big
Sedin, Henrik " 6.1
Sedin, Daniel " 6.1
Kesler, Ryan " 5
Samuelsson, Mikael " 2.5
Burrows, Alexandre " 2
Raymond 2
Hodgson 1.7
Fedotenko 1.5
R Niedermayer 0.8
Grabner, Michael " 0.9
Hansen 0.7
Rypien, Rick " 0.6
Glass 0.6
S Niedermayer 5
Volchenkov 4.8
Salo, Sami " 3.5
Edler, Alexander " 3.3
Ehrhoff, Christian " 3.1
SOB 1.2
Sauve 0.6
GOALTENDERS
Luongo, Roberto " 5.3
Schneider, Cory " 0.9
TOTAL 58.2
Yes I lowballed Raymond (short term deal as would be both Niedermayers and Fedotenko) but I just don’t see how you pay him more than Burr or as much as Sammy, he wants more, let him walk for the picks, and replace him, otherwise give him a year or two to prove he wasn’t a fluke and then there should be more room to sign him for more.
Speaking of picks, should restock the cupboards nicely with these moves as all acquisitions are UFAs and Bieksa and Bernier should net some in return as well.
I also think that you could pitch this combination to each prospective guy in order to attract them as on paper this is a contending lineup with significant improvements in all areas of concern (aside from 5uongo).
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Nice touch with Fedotenko. How you been, yoata?
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Busy
renos.
Fedotenko is a multi SC winner, like Niedermayer, and we just don’t have enough of that experience, and he’s also a big physical winger who can score too, and we don’t have enough of that either.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
but that doesn’t count against this year’s cap..
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 13, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Pleasant surprise to see yoata keep SOB on the roster… Aren’t u an O’Brien hater?
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 13, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised he didn’t sign Osgood as the backup.
A creep from the cradle, but a hero's what I want to be
He showed
some ability late in the year, I’d like to see whether he can do so consistently before giving up on him, as long as it’s at the right price, he does have the size and physicality that they don’t have enough of back there.
Notice I gave him a bit of a haircut from last year, which he may not accept.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I think he will start the season off with the Moose and maybe be one of our first options if one of our blueliners go down.
cool profile pic BTW. Ehrhoff is pretty cool isn’t he?
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
When it comes to being defensively responsible… way way way too huge a jump. The kid surely will need some seasoning. I can’t imagine him playing a game for the big club next season, not with Oberg and Sauve and others available.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
But it is possible that he surpasses those 2 don’t you think?
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Burrows, Bernier, and 4th rounder for Stalberg and Aulie
Bieksa and 3rd rounder for Backes (sign Stempniak if unsuccessful and trade Bieksa for a 2nd rounder)
First line
D. Sedin – $6,100,000
H. Sedin – $6,100,000
M. Samuelsson – $2,500,000
Second line
M. Raymond – $3,000,000
R. Kesler – $5,000,000
D. Backes – $2,500,000 (L. Stempniak – $2,500,000)
Third line
M. Grabner – $843,333
M. Malhotra – $1,200,000
C. Hodgson – $1,695,833
Fourth line
D. Hordichuk – $775,000
R. Johnson – $1,300,000
R. Rypien – $550,000
J. Hansen – $900,000
Spares
G. Desbiens – $550,000
First pairing
A. Edler – $3,250,000
S. Salo – $3,500,000
Second pairing
C. Ehrhoff – $3,100,000
Y. Sauve – $670,833
Third pairing
A. Volchenkov – $4,800,000 / M. Staal $2,500,000
E. Oberg – $1,562,500
Spares
F. Meyer – $1,100,000 / A. Rome – $750,000
B. Lukowich – $1,250,000
K. Connauton – $900,000
Goaltenders
R. Luongo – $5,333,333
C. Schneider – $900,000
A fan of Evan Oberg since April 10, 2009... no joke.
Is that supposed to be a lopsided trade for Vancouver or St. Louis?
A fan of Evan Oberg since April 10, 2009... no joke.
How is that a lopsided trade for St. Louis?
by Vancouverguy on Jun 14, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
No way MG trades Burrows! And no way Marc Staal can be had, and had for such a low salary.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
My turn
Daniel Sedin (6.1) – Henrik Sedin (6.1) – Alexandre Burrows (2)
Mason Raymond (2) – Ryan Kesler (5) – Mikael Samuelsson (2.5)
Michael Grabner (0.843) – Cody Hodgson (1.695) – Jannik Hansen (0.8)
Tanner Glass (0.5) – Ryan Johnson (0.75) – Rick Rypien (0.55)
Darcy Hordichuk (0.775)
F Cap Hit: $29.613
Marc Staal (6) – Zybnek Michalek (4.5)
Sami Salo (3.5) – Alexander Edler (3.25)
Christian Ehrhoff (3.1) – Andrew Alberts (1.05)
Aaron Rome (0.7)
D Cap Hit: $22.1
Roberto Luongo (5.3)
Cory Schneider (0.9)
G Cap Hit: $6.2
Total Cap Hit: $57.913
Analysis:
Bieksa & Bernier gone for whatever you can get for them.
Raymond gets signed for short term.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
Staal
You are prepared to give up a series of first rounders for Staal and pay him $6 million. Wow.
Michalek not worth $4.5 either
6 bills even would make it a single first rounder, in addition to a 2nd and 3rd. all 2011 picks. i would do that shit in a second.
by Passive Voice on Jun 14, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Another Option
Is to sign Shaone Morrisonn instead of shelling out for Staal. Still would prefer to get rid of Bieksa though. However, the money and picks saved in that transaction could be used elsewhere.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
i think the dropoff from staal to morrisonn is like going from willie to rome. i think the dif would be worth it.
a top pairing of michalek and staal is getting awfully close to my most private and silly fantasies regarding next year’s roster—the kind of things you’d be embarrassed if your friends found out about. rosterbation at its finest, Jevant.
by Passive Voice on Jun 14, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha
Why not though? If Gillis is serious about 30 minute d-men, that’s about the only way to get two.
And I interpreted the post as “what would I do if I was Canucks GM”. Going to happen? Never. But there’s no reason (cap wise or salary wise) that it couldn’t, I don’t think.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
$56.8
Current cap is $56.8 million – NOT $58.6 as many of you have built your team around. Keep in mind also that you will need at least $1 to $2 m wiggle room for unforseen occurences. Most of you cutting it too close and in fact close to $4 over what you need to be.
Hamhuis is interesting guy – he’s been talked about on the Flames board as well ( as if they need more expensive defencemen…) he is a young UFA who could attract a reasonable front end loaded 10 year deal.
Do you guys really think Nidermayer would come to Vancouver ?
The Bieksa & Bernier salary dumps may be tough to do – I think there are alot of teams with one or two guys they would like to clear off; and with the cap staying the same the last 2 years,and no official announcement yet on the new cap, eveyone is being squeezed. The market would be flooded with those type of deals. As a Flames fan can I interest you in Cory Sarich or Steve Staios. Langkow at $4.5 ? No ? Didn’t think so. Edmonton has a $5 m Souray for any takers. Anyone …??
Why not offer Bieksa to Chicago for Campbell. He’s not Niedermayer, but he is younger. It helps Chicago clear $4 m off their roster and they get a body back without a long term committment. The Hawks are in major doo – doo with 3 key RFA’s to sign – and they are already over the cap with only 14 guys under contract.
Current cap is $56.8 million – NOT $58.6
Cap is about to go up about $2 million, they just haven’t made it official yet.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Hamhuis
I’m betting he wants to stay in a non-Canadian market. I think there is very little chance he comes to Vancouver (and have no idea why Calgary would want him).
Niedermayer is staying in Anaheim or retiring. And I don’t want him. He looked bad at the Olympics and didn’t have a great year anyways.
Bieksa/Bernier…some team would take them if they were given away ala Ehrhoff to us last year (that’s really all I’d be looking for). And if not, minors (although I can’t see that happening realistically).
Bieksa for Campbell? Naw. I don’t really want to help the Hawks solve their problem.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
I’m betting he wants to stay in a non-Canadian market.
I’m betting you are correct. Gillis has been inquiring about him though.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Gillis
Hopefully he’s inquiring about all these guys, but I would be very shocked if Hamhuis was in Vancouver.
To be perfectly honest, as long as Bieksa is off the roster and we have an upgrade in our top 4, I won’t consider this offseason a complete writeoff. But I would love to add at least one, preferably two, elite d-men.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
agreed
we need at least 1 strong addition to our D
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Salo’s health remains a concern as well as far as bolstering the depth on D goes
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Hence
…why I went for 2 upgrades. Next year, with Ehrhoff and Salo (and Bieksa if he’s still around) coming off the books, we’ll certainly have some money to spend as well. Getting 2 new guys now provides some stability for 2011-2012, as well as providing Salo insurance.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
you’re not someone I’d bet against in this instance.
by Passive Voice on Jun 14, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
game of chicken
I am sure most teams don’t want to help Chicago out of their salary problems; but given the opportunity to significantly improve their team someone will blink. Since Huet may not be possible to move – Campbell and Hossa are the big targets to reduce salary. There will be some GM that will bite – it’s just a question of sweating the Hawks out for a while driving the price way down.
Niedermayer
is only 36, finished 12th in dmen scoring, last year he was almost a point per game in the playoffs, Mem Cup MVP, 4 time SC winner, Conn Smythe winner, Norris winner, multi Olympic Gold medal winner, all that guy does is WIN.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Did you argue for or against Forsberg last year?
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
In terms of what?
And how is it in any way valid to compare Niedermayer to a guy who had played all of maybe 2 seasons worth of NHL hockey in the previous 6 years?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Well your argument seemed to be focused on ‘all that guy does is win’… and the same could be said for forseberg. I actually largely agree with you, although it doesn’t seem like Niedermayer wants to come here at this stage. But I was curious if last year when the Foppa talk was buzzing if you were for him coming here?
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 15, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I honestly don't remember
but if I was it would have been for a very low risk deal as depth/experience, no way you could count on Forsberg as a key player with his injury record, which is what makes any comparison to Niedermayer totally baseless.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Haha
Puck Daddy has lampooned this post, calling these teams “hilariously stupid.”
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
It was Ryan Lambert… an insult from Lambert is about as hurtful as being kicked by a person with no legs. The guy knows less about hockey than even Cox, and that’s saying something.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 14, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, we’re rosterbating. Shame on him for interrupting
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
He also followed that with:
Perfect HFBoards trade proposal of the week
User “PhiltheThrill81” wants Simon Gagne(notes) in L.A.
To LA:
Simon Gagne
To PHI:
Bernier or Quick
Teubert
Let’s get it done.
Both hilarious and stupid. heheh
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
What's with the only comment I get on my team being from a Flames fan?
Am I that out there? Do people have that much against Staal or Michalek?
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
it’s quite possibly because that Flames fan stole the spotlight.
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on the upside, according to the dashboard thingy, this post alone already has over 1500 page views and 1000 visits today…..
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is lambert the one who’s a flames fan? i think the first time i read his stuff, he mentioned some team (anaheim?) putting up like 35 shots and getting shut out. after the game, he had a quote from an [anaheim?] player saying something like “eh, we got a bunch of chances and just ran into a hot goalie”, and he (lambert?) said “you got 35 shots and couldn’t score. clearly the problem is with your offense!” which demonstrated such a profound lack of common sense that i haven’t bothered to go back to give him another chance.
by Passive Voice on Jun 14, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe he’s an Avs fan. So clearly part of his problem is the altitude.
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Wrong guy. Lambert is the one who draws squiggly lines in his pictures in an effort I guess to become the Perez Hilton of hockey.
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
Lame.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
All u guys
that have Oberg pencilled in at #4/5 dman, you do realize this guy is 165lbs yeah?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Shhh he’s on the board now, don’t hurt his feelings first day…
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….. um, did nobody read his sig?
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by Section 312 on Jun 14, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
165 lbs (that can’t be accurate or he’s gotta gain serious weight this summer) is tiny for any pro hockey league though.
Poutine & Meatballs
Saw it listed
on 3 different sites today…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Kaberle
has 40lbs on Oberg and you were the one saying he wasn’t big enough…
As cyxj says, 165 lbs is tiny for any position in any NA league, let alone an NHL dman and one pencilled in as a top 4 on a supposed Cup contending team…
But don’t let the facts get in the way of your ridiculous argument.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Dude settle down
I was making a joke. You really need to be less sensitive. It was a harmless joke about an argument that ended days ago. Get over it.
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Why not?
Sedin (6.1) – Sedin (6.1) – Sammy (2.5) -14.6
Raymond (2.5) – Kesler (5) – Grabner (0.9) – 8.9
Ladd (2.5) – Cullen (2.5) – Burrows (2) – 8
Hansen (0.9) – Johnson (0.75) – Glass (0.5) – 2.15
Total – 32.1
Erik Johnson (6) – Edler (3.25) – 9.25
Ehrhoff (3.5) – Hamhuis (4) – 7.5
Sauve (0.9) – SOB (1.5) – 2.4
Total – 19.15
Luongo (5.3)
Some Scrub backup (0.7)
Total – 6
Alternates: Rypper (0.5) Oberg/Connauton (0.9)
Total: 1.4
Team Total – 58.65
I went on the premise that to aquire Erik Johnson, the one d man not named Doughty or Keith that I would really love to have, we would have to give up C. Schneider and Hodgson and probably a pick. It would be nice to get Cullen and Ladd for those numbers but I am not sure it is likely. It’s a slight pay cut for Cullen. Salo, Bieksa and Bernier can all be traded for picks to be used to help acquire Salo. And I will take Mitchell over SOB or Sauve if he is willing to take a massive pay cut. 1.5 for 1 year or something like that in order to prove his health. If not he can walk. The 4th line and 3rd D pair won’t play a lot.
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Oops
Salo, Bieksa and Bernier can all be traded for picks to be used to help acquire Salo
Should read:
Salo, Bieksa and Bernier can all be traded for picks to be used to help acquire Erik Johnson.
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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Salo
has a NTC.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I guess that would mean
having to get him to waive it. Wouldn’t it? It’s called rosterbation. Not rosterthisiswhatwillhappention.
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Oberg’s cap hit next year (if he makes big league) is $1.56m
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That is if he hits
all of his bonuses is it not?
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yep, bonuses are in there. CapGeek has most of them counted against the cap hit.
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Well I don't want to count his bonuses
I don’t think he will hit many of them and I am willing to risk it. The Hawks did it and so can I.
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okay, but i’d be a little more cautious about that. it is a good difference of $600 000 you have there, and if he does actually earn those that will push you over.
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Still waiting for the Stanley Cup to go to the Canucks.....
Sorry missy
I appreciate your advice but when I rosterbate I rosterbate hardcore. I throw caution to the wind.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
yeah, the world is yours with this whole thing. Some will gamble on bonuses some won’t. It’s a free-for all until somebody thinks they can get Hamhuis for 2.5. Then there is hacking. :)
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Going after Ladd is good strategy, Chicago can’t match without compounding their problems. At anything over $2.5 it costs you a 2nd and a 3rd pick.
Can’t see a universe in which St Louis trades Erik Johnson though. They have a ton of space and are going to keep their young guys together.
Well I did offer them
the best goalie prospect in the league, a potential perennial All Star center and a first round pick. They just couldn’t say no.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
misread that
Brain fart – was thinking Mathieu Schneider. Still – not enough if I’m St Loo. 3 prospects – one coming off serious injury you need an established player to make that deal.
Bieksa? Salo? Bernier?
All of them?
St Louis needs a goalie badly and I am offering them long term stability at the position plus a first rounder so they can draft a D man.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
So Salo plus 3 prospects. They have Pietrangelo coming at D – he will step in. One could argue they would be stronger with Salo, assuming he doesn’t come down with heat exhaustion in humid St Louis training camp – pass out and break his collar bone in the fall……
You are not offering long term stability at goal. You are offering a prospect that may or may not pan out. IF Blues want a young goalie Carey Price is available. you have got to beat them to that deal.
I think nearly all of the hockey experts expect
Schneider will pan out and be an excellent goalie. Price isn’t excellent by any stretch of the imagination. I have a feeling that your front office would like Schneider.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Plus I have Hodgson in there too
that’s the Canucks top two prospects and a draft pick plus a serviceable D man off of our roster. You aren’t going to be able to beat that deal. In fact most GMs probably wouldn’t make that deal from a Vancouver perspective.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I worry about the value of Hodgson – because he didn’t play last year. Canucks might be advised to hold that asset until in appreciates in value again.
I guess if would come down to whether St Louis is willing to change direction vis a vis Johnson. I swore Sutter would never trade Phanuef – particularly after Brent arrived as coach. I was mistaken.
Well the whole question for me
is if they want to acquire a goalie prospect. If they do we can offer a top notch one and other prospects. They aren’t close to contending now are they?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Yeah but other teams will be willing to offer even more than that I’m guessing.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He is a local product though
maybe he wants to play for the hometown team. Maple Ridge would love it!!!!
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Begrudgingly. I got an autographed picture from him after his Carolina Cup win. This time, I’m not sure I could stand there amongst all that Hawk love. I’m afraid I’d grab the Cup, run down to the foot of 224th, and heave it into the muddy Fraser. If the ‘Nucks can’t get the Cup, no-one can. Bwahahahaha…..then I would be beaten to a pulp.
A creep from the cradle, but a hero's what I want to be
if you throw the Cup off the bridge you had better throw yourself off with it! haha
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
the nice thing about EJ (at least for now) is that he has next to no negotiating rights—if you were to straight-up trade for him, you could sign him for relatively little (1m, if you felt like) next year. you’d probably want to give him like 3 or something, just to show you’re acting in good faith and so he doesn’t bolt to russia, but it gives you some wiggle room (for next year only, though—after that, it’s open season).
by Passive Voice on Jun 14, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is CC's roster
Dank (6.1) – Hank (6.1) – Burr (2.0)
Mase (2.0) – Kes (5.0) – Son of Sam (2.5)
Fedotenko (1.8) – Laich (2.06) – Grabs (1.2)
Hansen (1.0) – Johnny (1.3) – Rypper (0.55)
Forwards: 31.61 mill
Tallinder (3.0) – Seabrook (3.5)
Salo (3.5) – Blasthoff (3.1)
SOB (1.6) – Edler (3.25)
Defense: 17.95
Lu (5.33)
Ginger (0.9)
Goalies: 6.23
Total: 55.79 mill
Okay, so I wrote this during my Statistics lecture, so I realize it might be wildly absurd/stupid. I resigned Mase for 2 mill, he was making 0.9 mill beforehand, I more than doubled his salary so he should be happy. I signed Fedotenko, like yoata did, because he is a big mofo and has won Stanley Cups. I traded Juice to the Caps for Laich (this is where it might get absurd). The Caps desperately need D-men, and if you have forgotten, Juice is a defenseman, albeit a shoddy one by Western Conference, Northwest Division standards. I think the Caps would go for it as they need defensemen and can score a shitload of goals with only their first two lines. Plus they have rookies (Perreault, Chris Bourque) possibly coming up to replace out-going players. Plus, I’d rather not risk not having a third line center if Hodgson doesn’t make the team, which is actually a possibility, and I don’t want to resign Wellfed. I resigned Hansen for 1 mill, and Johnny for 1.3 (0.2 mill up from what he was making). Now onto the defense. I signed Tallinder to be a quasi shut-down defenseman for 3.0 mill, he was making 3.25 mill before but he’s getting a bit old so 3.0 should be okay. Now, more possible absurdity. I trade Bernier and a 1st round pick to the Hawks for Seabs. Seabrook is makng 3.5 mill and is an elite defenseman, which I think the Canucks need if there is any possibility of winning the cup. Bernier’s cap hit is only 2.0 mill and a first round pick could possibly yield a roster player for the Hawks in a year or two. Now the Hawks have 1.5 mill extra space on the cap, have a inexpensive ELC player coming in a year or two, and they have a forward, possibly two, to replace the departing forwards (Steeger, Buff, Sharpie, Madden, Bickell, Ladd). Now I realize Im really close to the cap, but I wrote this assuming the cap goes up 2 mill, which will give us a little bit of room in case the shit hits the fan and Salo goes down. Oberg can come up if Salo gets injured. I feel like I have answered all of the Canucks needs, them being a strong, hard-hitting, fast and experienced 3rd line, an elite defenseman, a shut-down guy, and some wiggle room on the cap. Edler, Blasthoff and Salo will be the primary PP point-men. I also resigned SOB for 1.6, which is exactly what he was getting before, and I think his negotiating is out the window considering his problems this year, assuming he wants to stay here of course. And before you rip this apart, remember, I know it is ridiculous, I wrote this while trying to learn about fucking standard deviation and shit. Feel free to point out why this is a terrible, ludicrous roster.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions
Also
the Caps’ division is very soft, maybe even their conference too, so Juice should be able to manage.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hellooooooo, essay
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Stats
is not very stimulating.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
SOB will get more than 1.6 in an arbitration hearing I think. I wonder how much more.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
No
The judge knows how much he spends at the Roxy, a pay raise won’t be justifiable.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll try
and drink more, Smo :D
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
i can’t tell if you think he wrote too much, or if you’re both mexican and he’s your friend.
by Passive Voice on Jun 14, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Im not Mexican, so its just my essay-like post :P
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Probability - nil
Caps have Alzner and Carlsson coming at D. Laich is not going to be traded for an expensive aging d man.
How about 3 first round picks Bernier and pleasure of taking on Huet’s contract for the right to have Seabrook. You’ve got a better chance of going on summer fun boat cruise with Pamela Anderson. Alone. With a video camera.
You are a real downer man
you realize this is rosterbation right? The whole point is that it’s probably not gonna happen. When I masturbate I don’t picture my gf, or ex gf’s, I picture girls I can’t have, like Pam Anderson.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Don't let him kill the mood
Keep that rosterboner going!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
the technical term is “rosterection”. duh. :)
by Passive Voice on Jun 14, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Well technically
The real thing is also called an “erection”, but is also referred to in more casual terms as a “boner”. :)
Plus I think rosterboner has a better flow to it
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I picture girls I can’t have, like Pam Anderson.
A 45 year old drag queen gets you off? Whoa…
The artist formerly known as GAHHHHH!
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
I meant Pam Anderson
was a girl I can’t get. Not that she was my go to mental wank picture. By the way Mental Wank Picture or MWP is trademarked.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I Love You Man
scene comes to mind.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
TOTES
MCGOTES
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s from M&G, he wants us to fail.
Nucks Misconduct contributor.
Also on Twitter.
Still waiting for the Stanley Cup to go to the Canucks.....
Do not want Pam Anderson
Misa Campo is my muse of late.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay
Mixed Azns!
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Hot
damn.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Laich would end up resigning in Vancouver, simply because he can be a top-six forward on a lot of other teams.
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
But he could put aside his feelings
to be on a Cup winning team.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Chicago
doesn’t need any more help…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Still
I’d love to take Seabrook off their hands.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
might as well
dream of Toews while you’re at it.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Well now that you've suggest it
I think I will
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
TMI
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
You
are just a prude, yoata!
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I appreciate that
Now tell Hayley to un-ban me, that joke about Matt Stajan was all in good fun.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry
Not on the inside with the crew at M & G. In fact I’m beginning to PO most of them.
Getting frustrated over there as I seem to be the only guy who is suggesting it is time to blow up the core of the Flames. Everyone in love with Langkow’s puck possesion numbers, never mind the fact that 37 pts does not a #1 centre make. Same deal with a soon to be declining Regehr and Kiprusoff; my take is that they should trade the entire group of 30 somethings ( not Ignila – ownership would nix that) for some picks and prospects and live to fight another day. Most everyone disagrees, thinking that offence will rebound magically next year. Canucks in way better in all areas – roster, cap wise, prospect wise. Hard to say but true.
hmm, you sound like their version of yoata…..
Nucks Misconduct contributor.
Also on Twitter.
Still waiting for the Stanley Cup to go to the Canucks.....
I actually
agree with you completely on what should happen to the Flames. Rebuild properly, starting with the draft, build a Cup winner for years to come.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Well thanks
Kiprusoff was awesome this year and would generate alot in a trade and I’m afraid of his inevitable decline.
Despite how great he was the Flames still didn’t make the playoffs so they’d have to improve the offence a ton to be a contender, especially if he slips.
They’ve got 2 really overpaid slow d men in Staios ( $2.7) and Sarich ( $3.6 for 2 more years) whose trade value is nil – so selling off Regehr for a couple of 20 year olds needs to happen both to rebuild and make cap space to sign White and Giordano
Langkow at $4.5 for 2 more years is insane. His career path is identical to Saku Koivu – just 2 years younger. He’s never been a #1 guy but could be valuable for a team as a #2 who is defensively responsible ( Washington ?). Trading for Kotalik ( 2 more years at $3 m) is another gargatuan head scratcher.
Sutter appears determined to ride these vets one more year – whereupon their trade value will be further depressed and little will be garnered to rejuvanate the 26th ranked prospect stable. Oh and did I mention no 1st and 2nd this year ?
Wow
You should make this a fanpost on M&G
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
been there done that
Got shouted down.
When they are out of playoff contention in Feb – those guys wont garner near as much in trade.
All that negativity. The Flames will make the playoff this season, oh yes.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 16, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Zandberg prediction is worth its weight in Eklund rumour.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 16, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That's quite a lot!
…Assuming it’s one of the Eklund rumours that sink rather than float. Depends on what he ate the day before, I suppose.
Sean
Your predictions will fail you yet again! :P
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
And who won missy’s playoff prediction pool again? FOOLS!
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 17, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
We'll see how good your predictions are
when Calgary and Toronto are #29 and #30 in the league next season!
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
"I'm a bulletproof tiger. I'm the man who has the ball, I'm the man who can throw it faster than f*ck!" - Kenny Powers of Eastbound and Down
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
We'll see
who is the real Oracle! :P
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
"I'm a bulletproof tiger. I'm the man who has the ball, I'm the man who can throw it faster than f*ck!" - Kenny Powers of Eastbound and Down
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
my turn
Forwards- 31.9
D. Sedin (6.1) H. Sedin (6.1) A. Burrows (2)
M. Samuelson (2.5) R. Kesler (5) M. Raymond (2.5)
A. Ladd (2.5) D. Moore (1.5) M. Grabner (0.9)
J. Hansen (0.650) R. Johnson (1) R. Rypien (0.550)
T. Glass (0.6)
Defence- 20.45
A. Volchenkov (4.5) A. Edler (3.25)
D. Hamhuis (4) S. Salo (3.5)
S. O’Brien (1.5) C. Erhoff (3.1)
A. Rome (0.6)
Goalies- 6.23
R. Loungo (5.33)
C. Schneider (0.9)
Total 58.58
Forwards
Ladd take a slight raise to play close to home (3 years 7.5) , Moore gets a slight raise and the security of a contract longer than one year (2 years 3) Johnson doesn’t stay healthy long enough so he takes a paycut (1 year 1)
Defence
Volchenkov goes to a better team with chances of a cup so instead of shelling out 5 mil for him he takes 4.5 (5 years 22.5), Hamhuis gets his raise and plays in his home province (5 years 20), O’Brien gets a 2 year deal, takes a slight paycut for his behavior problems (2 years 3)
Bieksa & Bernier traded for a bag of pucks… Mitchell doesn’t come back (no way I could fit him under and keep SOB, plus SOB’s healthy)
“Dominic! Welcome to Vancouver!! Sorry about your brother. How is he doing by the way? Oh really? Nah, I wouldn’t like eating my meals through a straw either. Anyways………….awkward….You’re on the 3rd line! Good luck!”
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha, totally forgot about that… just thought about his performance in montreal, he worked out nicely as a 3rd line checker
Man, it sucks cuz I’m a huge Dominic Moore fan. The guy is a freak.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried to go for a team that was somewhat realistic in some shape or form. And looking around the FA list for a 3rd line checking center moore fit the role and was cheap
by kiyotok on Jun 14, 2010 7:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was going to put him on my team too
then I reconsidered when I thought about what happened to his brother. Picked Laich instead.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think
Volchenkov might struggle a bit in the West? 6’1 235 pounds and not the fastest skater. Might be a better fit in Washington.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
well we’re in need of a defensive d-man and he seems like a good fit. apparently washington has no intention of offering him a contract
Until Ovie tells them too
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I’m still not getting this whole west vs east thing. Especially not with Volchenkov. Especially not when you have guys like Eric Brewer, Rob Blake (was) in the West.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric Brewer I think is largely regarded as overrated in his youth and mediocre now. At least that’s been my impression. Anyone else agree/disagree? And Rob Blake was much better (albeit, and younger) pre-lockout. Back when the west/east thing was not a thing yet.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Buffy on the Hawks’ defence? Sopel? Should I make a list of slower d-men in the West? I’m not seeing the light here
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Alberts
would be #1 on that list
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I can make a big list of guys like Alberts.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Finger
Don’t forget about Jeff Finger.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps even
Dion Phanoops? The new Leafs captain?
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 14, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm responding to Section's comment:
Do you think
Volchenkov might struggle a bit in the West? 6’1 235 pounds and not the fastest skater. Might be a better fit in Washington.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
and I’m saying “no” to that because there are plenty of slower D in the West
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 14, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Last week
Section claimed you had to be big to play D in the West, now he’s saying you have to be fast…not many guys are both…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I didn't claim anything yoata
I was just asking if Kaberle was tough enough mentally and physically to play in the west and now I am asking if Volchenkov can skate well enough. I don’t watch a tonne of Eastern games so I figured I could come here and ask people who might know more than me on the subject and get a decent response. Sorry if you don’t like it.
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by Section 312 on Jun 15, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Relax
You should really try not to be so sensitive…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I am relaxed my friend
just explaining why I was asking about Volchenkov and Kaberle. I am not going to let your attitude get to me anymore so I am perfectly calm. I truly am sorry if you don’t like the questions I am asking. I don’t know why but I hope to not annoy you in the future.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Well there goes the entertainment value of NM threads :(
The artist formerly known as GAHHHHH!
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
Sorry if my new zen
approach isn’t as fun. It should be better for my blood pressure though.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
New leaf, what a man.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Hey I'm in Van City until July 4th
any concerts I should be checking out?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Nice!
Hope the weather cooperates.
Imogen Heap and Athlete tonight, Martha Wainwright on the 26th, Rihanna on the 4th of July (haha), and lots of Jazz Festival acts in between.
Pity you’re not staying during the later month of July, you miss Tool, The New Pornographers, The Cat Empire, and MGMT :(
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I’m seeing the New Pornos in New York on Saturday! Woohoo. Their new album is good.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 15, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed!
Which venue? :O
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I’m really thinking about checking out the Sunday Cat Empire show.. My bi-monthly sojourn into the Big Smoke.
A creep from the cradle, but a hero's what I want to be
I first saw Cat Empire at the Darling Harbour Jazz Festival on my birthday back in 2004.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 15, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Swell Season
Aug 22nd. Its gonna be epic.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Iron Maiden, june 20 something…
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Yeah that seems fair
Ok but I don’t think Brewer or Blake have been very good in the post-lockout era, that was my point. But mostly I think this is a bit of a red herring argument to start with though, because quite frankly, no one points out a d-man is slow unless he’s doing a poor job. If you’re consistently doing your job and coming through under the gun, no one notices if you’re slow or not.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I like your last sentence and agree completely
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 15, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, people only really notice that you’re slow if you mess up and get beat. Like Beantown said, if you do everything right then speed shouldn’t be an issue.
Unless you start getting into games that turn into track meets, but then both sides are normally pretty f’ed at that point.
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My turn:
Forwards- 31.2
D. Sedin (6.1) H. Sedin (6.1) A. Burrows (2)
M. Samuelson (2.5) R. Kesler (5) M. Raymond (2)
P. Mueller (2.5) C. Hodgson (1.7) M. Grabner (0.9)
J. Hansen (0.650) S. Yelle (0.6) R. Rypien (0.550)
T. Glass (0.6)
Defence- 18.6
S. Salo (3.5) A. Edler (3.25)
K. Bieksa (3.75) C. Erhoff (3.1)
N. Hjalmarsson (2.5) J. Boychuk (1.9)
A. Rome (0.6)
Goalies- 6.2
R. Loungo (5.3)
C. Schneider (0.9)
Comes to 56.0 with 2.8 mil just in case of injuries. Mason Raymond gets raise to 2 mil. Peter Mueller provides a big body with scoring touch and gets a 50% raise over last year. Stephane Yelle provides Cup experience, and although coming off a leg injury, should be fine to handle fourth line duties. Steal Hjalmarsson out of Chicago for 2.5 mil. Johnny Boychuk signs to be a little closer to home for 1.9 mil.
I can’t see Gillis getting caught up in the free agent frenzy but I can see him cutting a deal to get some bargains at the draft. Probably won’t deal Bieksa but will demote or trade Bernier if necessary.
heh, devious, but both hjalmarsson and mueller are RFAs though, right? signing them to identical compensation levels wouldn’t work, i don’t think.
by Passive Voice on Jun 14, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, you’d have to offer either one of Mueller or Hjalmarsson $3,119,539 or more, but that would require a 1st and 3rd as compensation. I think the safer route is to offer the one you prefer more in the $1,559,771 to $3,119,539 range, and offer the one you prefer less in the $1,029,449 to $1,559,771. This way, the total compensation is only a 2nd and 3rd, compared to a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
Sorry, I read Mueller as an UFA before. Hjalmarsson would be a good steal though for sure. You can definitely get him for less than 3 mil.
Oh Sean
you and your bets :P
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I like
this roster.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I loves me some Boychuk, but I’m guessing he’ll resign with the Bruins.
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If you saw some of the bodychecks he’s doled out, you’d love him too
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by ThomasPratt on Jun 17, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Forwards- 32.45
D. Sedin (6.1) H. Sedin (6.1) A. Burrows (2)
M. Samuelson (2.5) R. Kesler (5) M. Raymond (2.5)
S. Bernier (2) C. Hodgson (1.7) M. Grabner (0.9)
J. Hansen (0.65) E. Belanger (2) R. Rypien (0.55)
T. Glass (0.55)
Defence- 19.9
S. Salo (3.5) D. Hamhuis (4)
A. Edler (3.25) C. Erhoff (3.1)
K. Bieksa (3.75) S. O’Brien (1.7)
A. Rome (0.6)
Goalies- 6.2
R. Loungo (5.3)
C. Schneider (0.9)
Total: 58.55
Right up to the cap. If we can’t get Raymond to take only 2.5, we can try to jetisson Bernier I suppose and find some plug for $1mill. But 2.5 has MayRay being paid more than Burrows, and he’s only had one decent season. Someone may give him a big offer sheet is the problem. Basically if we don’t get MayRay signed and settled before July 1, that hurts our ability to attract UFAs.
Also I like Belanger for his PK ability with slight offensive ability (unlike RyJo), plus plenty of post-lockout experience in our division with 3 years on the Wild.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 11:30 PM PDT reply actions
Also, Belanger could easily switch around with CoHo and be the no. 3 centre depending on how well either is playing.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 14, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I see
you like my ideas about Belanger :P
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha… didn’t notice yours. Great mind thinks alike!
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 15, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I also like Belanger for his clutch play this season. 7 of his 15 goals this season, or almost half of his goal production, either tied the game or put the Caps up by one.
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
This is probably more reasonable and likely than most of what’s been posted here. Total overhaul of the defence like some of us have suggested (including me) is probably fairly unlikely. I still don’t think we’re getting Hamhuis (I just don’t think he seems to want to play here), and I don’t like paying a 4th line C 2 million, but it all makes sense. If I had to bet which of these would end up being the closest to what the team actually looks like, this is my pick.
I assume you just dumped Hordi’s contract somewhere?
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
yeah anywhere. send him to manitoba. no big deal.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 15, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
And part of the reason I’m willing to spend more on the 4th line centre is because CoHo is a rookie unknown with back issues. Belanger could comfortably play no. 3 centre when needed. And he’d be a key PK guy, so he’d be getting way more than 4th line minutes.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 15, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I buried
Hordi in the minors.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
My turn
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Mason Raymond ($2.300m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
Michael Grabner ($0.843m) / Scott Nichol ($1.150m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.696m)
Jannik Hansen ($0.950m) / Ryan Johnson ($1.400m) / Rick Rypien ($0.550m)
Guillaume Desbiens ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Sami Salo ($3.500m)
Kurtis Foster ($2.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($3.750m)
Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m) / Sean O’Donnell ($1.450m)
Yann Sauve ($0.671m) / Bryan Rodney ($0.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) / Brent Johnson ($0.700m)
PAYROLL: $55.393m
Oh, just want to point that a lot of shuffling can be done in the bottom-six here. Aka -
- when Johnson sits, Nichol can slide down to the fourth line while Hodgson can move to center; Desbiens/Hansen can play wing on the third line
- if Hansen plays well, the third line can be Grabner – Hodgson – Hansen, and Nichol could move down to the fourth line rotation as well
- Nichol/Hodgson and Johnson/Rypien provide a solid backup plan for faceoffs when one gets kicked out in crucial defensive situations
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
Just get some more starts in Manitoba and we call him up during the season if the need arises.
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
well, we’ve been doing that for the last couple years. CS is ready for at least a backup job in the NHL.
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Now I know that Cory was signed to a one-way contract, then we could sign Brent Johnson to a two-way contract, provided he is willing to, and put him in Manitoba.
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
We signed him to a one-way contract this year. We wouldn’t have done that if the plan was to start him in Manitoba. The plan is clearly he’s the backup or he’s traded.
by Beantown Canuck on Jun 15, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Salo and Foster in the same team
Gonna need to carry 10 D men just to ensure we have cover for when they get hurt. Not if but when. I like Foster but he makes Salo look like an iron man.
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by Section 312 on Jun 15, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Very
true
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
MIrror, Mirror...
Vancouver’s in good shape, in my opinion.
The defence is… okay, though Mitchell obviously needs replacing as I don’t think he’s coming back. I’m fine with Edler being our #1; Alberts and O’Brien both showed enough improvement that they can be kept on and re-signed respectively; I don’t know if Erhoff will repeat last year’s wonderful surprise, but I’m hoping so; and none of the top D prospects are ready for the NHL yet. I like them, and think in two more years at least two will be good for the Bigs, but not yet.
I do think Bieksa will come back around with an injury-free and focused year, but not at that price. He’s going to have to prove himself again, and that’s going to be with another team. His money’s going to a high-impact replacement of Mitchell.
(Note to Mitchell: please just retire, dude. Try to go the rest of your life without brain damage, okay? If you want to stay in the game, coach some juniors for a while, do PR, whatever. Months with symptoms = stay off the ice.)
The goalie situation is fantastic, really. A huge prospect is coming up this year for cheap, and we’ve got a proven veteran starter.
Vancouver’s biggest problem is depth at forward. To me, the third line is where we need to shore up, but even there we’ve got two rookies who are ready to go, plus we’ll see what Shirokov can do after a year in North America. But there’s no way one should expect Shirokov, Grabner AND Hodgson to all play well enough to stick for the full season. It would be ideal, but not something to rely on. There’s also a question as to whether Samuelsson can repeat last season’s numbers – a quick call to the Swedish embassy may be necessary.
I wouldn’t mind if we kept Wellwood, either: he’s good of faceoffs, has some production given his ice time, and shows flashes of brilliance. But where would he fit? I went with a free agent who has experience with a winning team to guide two rookies on his line, and who can pass or shoot as needed, plus has a winning draw average. Cullen might not be happy with reduced even strength ice time, but he has experience on both special teams so can make up for it there.
So:
Sedin ($6.1), Sedin($6.1), Burrows($2.0)
Raymond($2.2), Kesler($5.0), Samuelsson($2.5)
Hodgson($1.7), Matt Cullen($3.25), Grabner($.84)
Rypien($0.55), Johnson($1.3), Hansen($0.66)
Bernier ($2.0), Glass($0.75)
Edler($3.25), Salo($3.5)
Shaone Morrisonn($3.0), Erhoff($3.1)
Alberts($1.0), Rome($0.75)
Baumgartner ($0.55)
Luongo ($5.3), Schneider ($0.9)
Total $56.3 million.
I went with the extra forward (23 players) because of the uncertainty of adding two rookies – plus the injury trouble Johnson gets into. I think this makes for a much more dangerous third line and three defencive pairings that can clear the front of the net well plus retains some offensive punch in the top four.
The two free agents both have reasonable raises from their current values – I don’t expect to get either without other teams being interested – but Vancouver has the advantage of being a winning team, and if the price gets any higher than what I’ve listed for either, they can walk.
I’ve left enough room for Shirokov to take someone’s job, too. If Bernier gets outplayed, he and his contract can be buried in the AHL for the one year.
Thoughts?
I feel like
you need an elite defenseman.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
There are 2 available:
Gonchar and Neidermeyer. Both are over 5 million dollars and both are 36. Oh, and both are happy with their current teams, unless I’ve missed something (always possible – car accidents do that). I don’t know if they are that much of an improvement over Edler, given the personnel losses the Canucks would have to see to get either.
Who’s the elite d-man in your line-up? Seabrook? Love to have him, but he’s not in that rarified air yet!
I think that we have a much bigger problem with the forward depth than on the blue line: the drop in talent from second line to third is steep.
Weren't we one of the highest scoring teams in the league?
Forward depth, especially with Shirokov, Schroeder, Hodgson and others, is not an issue with this team. Raymond, Sammy, Sedins, Burr, Kesler, Grabner plus the guys I just mentioned. We have plenty of depth up front. D is where we need to improve.
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The rookies have to prove they belong first – after the first six forwards, there’s a big drop in talent last year. Neither the third nor fourth lines contributed enough to concern any teams – that lack killed us in the playoffs.
So scoring depth
is why our PK was so horrible?
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Such
a terrible PK
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Lots of reasons
Cullen coming in would help; likewise Morrisonn.
Otherwise, Johnson staying healthy would have been nice; Mitchell not getting injured for months would have helped; the coaching may not be up to snuff (the Canucks were 16th in PK last season, 18th this year with virtually the same success rate).
It’ll be interesting to see if the Sedins get their wish to play on the PK more. I’m not thrilled by the idea, but it could be worth the experiment if it makes them happier.
They will be tired
as fuck come April.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2010 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions
That wories me, yeah.
I’m not a big fan of the idea, myself. I don’t hate it as much as I hate using a forward on the point, but close.
oh god Demo
on the point was night terror inducing.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2010 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions
They won't be that tired
they play less minutes than almost every other superstar. If the other stars in the league can play more minutes and still be fresh come playoff time then so can the Sedins.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Ouch! $3.25 million for a third line center?
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
A 45-50 point player who has a Cup ring and can play centre and left wing as well as power play and penalty kill and can guide two rookies on his wings and is good on the draw?
Yeah, him.
as a pessimist...
i don’t think there will be as many changes as people would hope for, in fact almost none. i am optimistic in my roster though, in that the canucks get the best defensive defenseman on the market.
Sedin, Daniel, 6.1
Sedin, Henrik, 6.1
Samuelsson, Mikael, 2.5
Bernier, Steve, 2
Burrows, Alexandre, 2
Kesler, Ryan, 5
Johnson, Ryan, 0.85
Raymond, Mason, 3
Hordichuk, Darcy, 0.8
Rypien, Rick, 0.55
Grabner, Michael, 0.765
cody hodgson, 1.725
jordan schroeder, 0.9
volchenkov, anton, 4.5
Bieksa, Kevin, 3.5
Salo, Sami, 3.5
Edler, Alexander, 3.25
Ehrhoff, Christian, 3.4
Rome, Aaron, 0.7
Alberts, Andrew, 1.3
Luongo, Roberto, 5.333
Schneider, Cory, 0.9
total = 58.673M
pushing bieksa to 3rd pair makes him palatable for me, although his salary is an anchor. canucks have to spend 3M to keep raymond around, but he’s worth that if he keeps progressing. balls comes back for a discount, and is still overpaid. this team should win the northwest fairly easily. still not nearly enough size or grit in the lineup however so expect another second round exit from the playoffs.
Gimme a C, a bouncy C.
Who can take your roster, sprinkle it with shit
Say your guys are overpaid, an early exit
The bitterguy, oh the bitterguy can
The bitterguy can cuz he mixes it with bile
and makes the ’Nucks fans sad. :)
A creep from the cradle, but a hero's what I want to be
lol
your pessimism is beyond anything I have ever seen
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
All this rosterbation and number crunching is making my head spin. I’ll leave it to you folks to do the heavy lifting, while I just curl up in a ball and wait for July 1.
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yeah, that’s what i’m doing too, although i do give a little critique on a few of the wacky ideas.
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I was doing the same thing
But Statistics is boring as fuck and I couldn’t help myself.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
BreMo
is available…anyone think he’s got any gas in the tank to perform as a 3rd line center?
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I wouldn't mind Mo
coming back at all
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 15, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember reading a post on the CDC forums last offseason and someone wanted us to bring back the WCE for the third line lol
"Maybe subconsciously [Jason Kendall] feels the need to throw the ball in the outfield since he can’t hit it there." - AJaha25 on Kendall leading the Royals in errors
Well, the CDC user base is showing it’s genius in that post, obviously. But, although my mancrush on Naslund died and I certainly don’t miss Bert’s double digit IQ, Morrison was the one guy on that line that I didn’t want to see leave. One thing about him is he did have the ability to kick in an extra gear when he wanted to. Would he want to again for his hometown? I think he might.
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yeah, i’ve heard his name being tossed around. might be worth a look. however, is he himself ready to return to vancouver? it’s only been 2 seasons after all…..
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I would rather have Cullen
way rather have Cullen. You know. A winner. Morrison doesn’t exactly have an exemplary playoff record.
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"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Why seemingly no love for Zbynek Michalek? Might he be a slightly cheaper, western conference ready alternative to Volchenkov?
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A second look at the UFA lists makes me think maybe Paul Martin would be a decent bet. He’s a US college product and I have a sense Gillis likes those.I just saw an article today that basically says Martin is going to July 1 without resigning with the Devils.
Or in the realistic but attainable vein, maybe Tallinder or Lydman. I’m not sure we need huge experience, especially with the UFA age lowered. Better a player on the way up.
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