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Picking Up The Pieces: The 2009-2010 Canucks Goaltending

This happened once or twice. Or thrice. Fine eight times.

No Vancouver eulogy would be complete without taking a look at who has a new plot in our goalie graveyard. Of course that very Burkian term ceased to exist on June 24, 2006 when Dave Nonis steel toed Todd Bertuzzi out the door and brought in our netminding captain who has helped get the team to a handful of division championships and playoff appearances. Even with a depleted defense, wouldn't a very good offense and a gold medalist in net be enough to get the Canucks past the second round for a change?

Of course not.

After the jump we take a look at the captain, the reclamation project and the bluechip ginger and all of the highs, lows and obligatory laughs therein.

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Roberto Luongo

#1 / Goalie / Vancouver Canucks

6-3

217

Apr 04, 1979



GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2009 - Roberto Luongo 68 3899 40 22 167 2.57 1915 1748 .913 4

What He Did: This was Luongo's fourth tour of duty with the Canucks and the third of which he helped steer them to (a) a Northwest championship and (b) the second round of the playoffs. Last summer started with talks of trading him and ended with his signature at the end of a 12 year, $64 million dollar staggered deal. With the franchise firmly in his hands, many of us went back to worrying about his groin, his puck handling skills and how the Chicago loss from the previous year would wear on him. Along with the rest of the team, he had his typical slow start (6-6 in October) and then had a rib injury that sidelined him for a week. Any semblance of a problem with his game evaporated in December and January where he played 27 games with a 19-5-3 record along with two shutouts. Following the Olympics is where the problems started: in his remaining 21 games, he got 11 wins but coughed up 63 goals for a fugly 3.23 GAA. He stumbled a bit into the first round where one of the biggest questions was which goalie would suck more. While he played well against the Kings, he - very much aided by the questionable defense in front of him - fell apart against Chicago. Luongo's career post season stats leave a lot to be desired:

Season Wins GA SA SV% GAA Playoff Rank
2006-07 5 25 427 .941 1.77 3 of 22 SV%, 4 of 22 GAA
2008-09 6 26 304 .914 2.52 14 of 25 SV%, 12 of 25 GAA
2009-10 6 38 362 .895 3.22 16 of 27 SV%, 20 of 27 GAA

 

For The Record: Curious what teams put the biggest hurt on Luongo? Try the 22nd in scoring Minnesota Wild who tuned him for 17 goals in five games. The 30th in scoring Flames were second with 16 goals in six games. On the flip side, he pitched shutouts against the Flyers and Panthers this season so his stats were the best against them.

Summer Assignment: Despite the Olympic Gold, the biggest knock against Luongo will remain that he's not a big game player. He's the Joe Thornton of goalies though, to be fair, at least Thornton got to the conference finals.

Even his most ardent supporters have to embrace that Luongo - strong in previous campaigns and indeed since the lockout - had an off season. Even an off season is decent considering he still got 40 wins which was the second best for his career and 5th best in the league. He wasn't the most inconsistent goalies this season and remains one of the more "skilled" netminders around.

Besides, if Vancouver can now simply outscore their opponents, do you care how the wins come?

Therein lies the potential problem, one that came directly from Luongo's mouth. In his four seasons in Florida, the Panthers were never better than 22nd in the league in scoring (240 goals in 2005-06). Vancouver had 272 goals this year - good enough for 2nd best - and a continued increase from 246 goals in '09 and 213 goals in '08. Also remember that Luongo thrives on shots; the more the better but this season he faced the least amount of shots against (1915) in his career, assuming a 60 game minimum. So is it possible that we never truly saw his struggles because the goals & wins kept pouring in, the back-up did his job and, hey, he's Roberto friggin Luongo? Maybe we assumed - rightly so - that less shots per game shouldn't be a problem for a guy with his accolades? Maybe this year was the learning curve he needed if the offensive progression is one where he will face far more games with 20 or fewer shots? Too many maybes.  I don't know.

Just saying "I don't know" is a good way to approach Luongo's summer. Dissecting how to fix his problems is as problematic as defining precisely what the specific issues are, be they his own, the team's or a myriad amount of other in-game variables. Infinitely more frustrating is seeing Niemi and Leighton prove you don't need to spend top dollar on the netminder and yet that is exactly what the Canucks are locked into.

He and management need to have a meeting of the minds and figure out a few things. Then Luongo needs to address his demons on his own time which is why stripping him of the captaincy certainly isn't a bad idea (and it would look simply fetching on Ryan Kesler no?). Next season he's our ten million dollar man, but whether he helps push this team forward (very much like 2006-07) and past the second round of the playoffs with dominant and consistent netminding is the only way he'll earn every dollar coming his way. Until then, the hater's are going to hate and they have every right to do so.

 


Andrew Raycroft

#30 / Goalie / Vancouver Canucks

6-0

173

May 04, 1980



GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2009 - Andrew Raycroft 21 967 9 5 39 2.42 438 399 .911 1

What He Did: Gillis looks like a mad genius for dropping the league minimum on Raycroft's lap but let's be honest: knowing whoever he employed would be sandwiched between Luongo and Schneider allowed him to be frugal. But it was the perfect situation for a goalie no one wanted and the fact Raycroft ended up being the best back-up Vancouver has had (wins and GAA) since the lockout had to exceed even the rosiest of preseason predictions. He appeared the most against the Ducks (x3), the Blue Jackets (x3) and the Wild (x3) but his most notable moments included shutting out his former Colorado employer and earning some laughs in Toronto (well, different laughs at any rate). Note that his win in Toronto was the only time this season he spelled Luongo and earned the W. Sure he wasn't perfect, but this season marks the first time since his 2003-04 Calder trophy season he can head into the summer with his head up.

For The Record: Being a back-up goalie is pretty thankless, but if all they should be counted on is to spell the starter and to net the occasional win, then it's worth mentioning that Raycroft's nine wins was the exact same as Josh Harding, Martin Biron, Alex Auld and Vesa Toskala (on two teams mind you) had, one more than last year's back-up Jason LaBarbera and two more than Chris Osgood and the injured, tipsy Nikolai Khabibulin.

Summer Assignment: It's possible Raycroft returns, especially if Schneider is dealt. But it's equally probable Raycroft wants to be a starter again and that certainly isn't going to happen in Vancouver.

 


Cory Schneider

#35 / Goalie / Vancouver Canucks

6-2

195

Mar 18, 1986



GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2009 - Cory Schneider 2 79 0 1 5 3.80 59 54 .915 0

What He Did: Has a ginger ever had this much influence on a team he barely plays for? He's been a rumored #1 netminder from the second he was selected 26th overall in 2004. Once Luongo joined he flipped to the bluechip asset to be traded...any second! Two seasons ago he was tossed into the fire, along with Curtis Sanford, to keep the Canucks afloat while Luongo's groin healed. Last summer he gave MG the flexibility to sign Raycroft and still was called upon when Luongo's rib injury had him sidelined for a week. He didn't win either game he played in this season, but if you remember his start against Dallas, you know you saw something special. The kid's legit.

For The Record: He had a career best 60 games played and 35 wins for the Moose this year, though both his save% (.919) and GAA (2.51) were lower than last season.

Summer Assignment: Just keep doing your thing. Chances are you're in the NHL next season, either backing up - and potentially shouldering a bigger load - for Luongo or on another team with a chance to be a starter. Either way, you're long overdue for consistent NHL work.

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I knew Rayzor would be good. I wonder if there is even a starter gig for him anywhere. I don’t think there is.

by Sean Zandberg on Jun 1, 2010 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder

if that makes it harder to deal Schneider then as well?

by SteveNux on Jun 1, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if teams go with 2-tier goalie systems it shouldn’t be a problem

by Sean Zandberg on Jun 1, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schneider is a better bet if I was a GM. Raycroft will need a lot more work to shake his label and become a starter again.

I still think Tampa is the best fit. You can platoon Schneider with Smith and maybe wrangle a defenseman out of the deal. Meszaros would be cool, but that’s likely too rich for a goalie.

St. Louis could be another good fit with Mason but I know JD and MG have had issues before (though they did make that minor Stastny trade at the deadline).

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 1, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need a d-man with Cup experience, IMO. A stabilizing force. Enough with the Euros too. Yeesh! Then again, I’ll take most Euros over Bieksa

by Sean Zandberg on Jun 1, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reading this, I had the same thought. You just have to look at Philly to see the value of an experienced Dman.

The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.

by Mark D on Jun 2, 2010 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trade him for Ohlund!!! Just kidding. But I do really miss that Big Swede.

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by nucksandpucks on Jun 1, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Razor looks like a little kid in that photo.

He needs to bulk up from that 173! (?)

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 1, 2010 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Since you mentioned that Lu was pulled eight times, that’s 10% of the games. Was anybody else in the whole league pulled eight times during the past season?

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by AttilaS on Jun 1, 2010 8:57 PM PDT reply actions  

My mistake, since he only played 68 games, it is close to 12%

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by AttilaS on Jun 1, 2010 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Bring in a sports Psych for Luo, let schneider play 25+ games. My 2 bobs worth

by AdelaideNuck on Jun 1, 2010 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s possible. I’m still stuck on Elliot Friedman’s concept of bringing in an experienced netminder as a mentor.

by Sean Zandberg on Jun 1, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

For sure, i think someone’s already said it, but he’s clearly the #1 guy on the team, or at least MG wants him to be, so why not give him everything he needs to be that guy. Fark, even pay for a lap dance for him before the game if it helps him.

by AdelaideNuck on Jun 1, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

with his salary he should be paying for everyone else’s lapdance

by Sean Zandberg on Jun 1, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just doing my bit for the team.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Jun 1, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure you giving him lap dances won’t help his game, but then again, i’ve not spent any time in the room so what do i know…

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 1, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The dressing room or the lapdance room?

by SteveNux on Jun 2, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, and I know Ive said this before despite its stupidity

Im just happy the Canucks don’t have to play Clouts anymore. I thank the lord every day that I no longer have to see Clouts, Demo or Pyatt in a Canucks jersey ever again.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 1, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Dont forget bulis…

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 1, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh god

Dont remind me.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 2, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder regularly

What could have happened if Lu was on the team a couple years earlier…or if the WC Express had stuck around a bit longer (FU Bertuzzi!!)….

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 2, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

But we don’t get Luongo with out trading Bertuzzi, so I see how those two could be on the team at the same time.

by SteveNux on Jun 2, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know

Quit stomping on my dreams!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 2, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha sorry. While we were at it, we should have signed Sundin to a 5 year deal and given him an anti-aging pill.

by SteveNux on Jun 2, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's possible

When Milbury traded Luongo and Jokinen, all he got in return was Parrish and Kvasha. We’re not talking about him trading Lu for world breakers.

The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.

by Mark D on Jun 3, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

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