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Blackhawks 5 Canucks 2: Uh-Oh...

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I'm not going to push the panic button but there are a few instances from game 3 that really make me want to. Shane O'Brien said pre-game that the Canucks were too passive in the first 2 games of the series and wanted them to push back. Well, pushing back in Game 3 only led to boneheaded penalties and a lack of composure, as Chicago had their way with the Canucks in this one.

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Vancouver's futility continued on the power play as they went 0-for-4 but the Hawks were 2-for-7. Chicago's 2 powerplay goals came as a result of a Ryan Kesler tripping penalty and Alexandre Burrow's unsportsmanlike penalty, as he tried to rough up Brian Campbell after the whistle in period 2. The refs saw fit to call Vancouver on more penalties tonight than on Chicago. That's about fair I would say, for the most part. Vancouver lost composure. Simple as that. Why all the retaliation? Ignoring the bastard Hawks had pretty much worked so far in the series.

So now it's adjustment time again. Christ, I thought we were done with that.

-Luongo and his rebounds. Good god. reminded me of his play in the Olympics.

-ZERO points for the Sedins, Samuelsson....I agreed with Alain Vigneault's choice to put Burrows back on the top line to try to find SOMETHING. Alors, to no avail.

-Is David Bolland shadowing Daniel Sedin because he sure got under his skin tonight.

-Speaking of the Sedins...it's the typical story. When they are ON, their pretty plays are gold. But when they fail you just wanna commit multiple homicide.

-Aunti Niemi is a solid goaltender down low. But the Canucks failed to shoot high on him early and couldn't bury their chances. And early on, they had a lot of chances, especially Daniel Sedin.

-The Hawks, so far, are better at defending leads than the Canucks. Oh yeah, it's true. This game was almost like Game 2 except role-reversal, and the Hawks were better.

-Can I say that I dislike Pavol Demitra? Because I really do. Perimeter-useless play, and he wasn't the only one guilty of that.

-Dustin Byfuglien. The guy is a god damned villain in Vancouver and he RELISHES the concept. Case in point was his celebration after his second third goal, where he taunted Canucks fans. In all honesty, if I was getting hacked by 18,000-plus fans I would react the same way. Then he gets a dirty hat trick on top of it. God....I don't get how a goaltender can be pushed into the net like that and the goal stands. Absolute horse shit.

-The better team won let's face it. Back to the drawing board.

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That hat trick goal should not have counted. I will agree with

Absolute horse shit.

by kmcgann on May 5, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

There's always...

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by Yankee Canuck on May 5, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Mmmmm take away the pain….

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on May 6, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that Bob Probert

as a kid there on the right? Just bares a striking resemblance, what with the clenched fists and the mountain of yay-yo

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by BigCSouthside on May 6, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is going to get ugly before its over.

Terrible game. Friday cannot come soon enough.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on May 5, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m not a fan of Tim Peel as a referee. A friend of mine, a fan of another team, ripped Peel apart at the beginning of the season, and every time I’ve seen him call a game I’ve ended up annoyed at something. It’s gotten to the point where if I see a call I think is absolute junk, I mutter “must be Tim Peel reffing,” and sure enough it is. He can’t keep a game under control. He can’t make the right call. Half the time he can’t even make a call at all.

Not a fan of O’Halloran, either. But Peel? No thank you.

Anyways, first experience at GM Place for a playoff game was a rousing success. Far better intensity than regular season. Guys in our section resorted to making immature, loud jokes at a guy wearing a Chelios jersey when the chips got down, but other than a few idiots it was a really good time.

Sidebar: not a Canucks fan. Or a Hawks fan.

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by Ryan Classic on May 5, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

“The better team won let’s face it. Back to the drawing board.”

WTF? Are you kidding? The Hawks played like pieces of shit tonight, and barely showed up. Van dominated them more than any other game this series, and got served with a ridiculously undeserved loss.
Bad penalties, Lou’s strange inability to cover the puck, and some terrible shots cost us the game. They were all direct results though of Van screwin up rather than the Hawks forcin them.
If i’m AV tonight, I don’t change a thing. 9 times out of 10, the Nucks win with that kind of effort.
I am pissed though that it will take at least 6 to win now though. I truly expected a Van sweep or 5 games max.
And don’t throw the Sedins under the bus again, they battled hard, won the puck possesion game and even mixed it up physically.

by Nuckels on May 5, 2010 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know if it’s an “undeserved loss” if there was “bad penalties, Lou’s strange inability to cover the puck, and some terrible shots”.

The Hawks won this game because they got in Lu’s face, got in the dirty areas, capitalized on mistakes, and Niemi was very good. And Bieksa sucks.

No offense, but a Van sweep or 5 games is ridiculous against a much more skilled, physical and fast team like the Hawks.

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by cyxj on May 6, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed that bieksa sucks.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

fuck yeah he does.

i seriously hate that guy already, almost as much as i hate demo.

by bitterguy on May 6, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ive said it before and ill say it again.

WHY IS DEMO ON THE POINT DURING THE PP? WHY? DOES HE HAVE A ROCKET OF A SLAPPER THAT CAN GET PUCKS DEEP IN THE ZONE? NO? THEN TAKE HIM OFF THE FUCKING POINT, AV. I know you want to put that 4 mill 4th liner to use, but this is enough. Throw Hansen out there, he could probably do better.

Juice is just making mistakes after mistakes, being slow, not moving his feet, and taking penalties. So fucking tired of it. Bernier has to bury his chances, his stone hands are getting on my nerves so much. This game made me very annoyed because the Canucks played well, but made big mistakes and when those mistakes were made they were VERY GLARING and the Hawks capitalized on these mistakes. I was mentioning to the people I was watching the game with, the Canucks were making Niemi look very good (as WSH did with Halak), and the Hawks are capitalizing on our mistakes and out-working us (as MTL did in the Caps-Habs series).

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

They did take Demo off the PP after he took that penalty (while on the PP). But they replaced him with Bieksa. So loss-loss either way.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on May 6, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh god that is worse.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should rename our team Slovakia so Demitra will actually start trying.

by marcness52 on May 6, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

How could you possibly be expecting a sweep?

Have you been watching hockey for the past 2 seasons? At all?

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Van Sweep Nuckels?

How in your right mind did you expect a sweep? Did you forget when we beat you guys last year? Face it the Hawks are a much better hockey team…..

by Hawkhead55 on May 6, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll face it if you win the series. Until then, nobody can claim anything.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on May 6, 2010 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ps- ain’t that Vancouvers curse. We shut down Toews, Hossa and Kane and get beat by Bufglugluein, who quite possibly is the shittiest and fattest player in the entire western conf.

by Nuckels on May 5, 2010 11:15 PM PDT reply actions  

FYI, you can't beat the Hawks by just shutting down Toews, Hossa, and Kane

The reason the Hawks are good is cause they are deep.

And…

Hossa had a goal and assist, and Toews had three assists. Hardly being “shut down.”

by v-piece on May 5, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

And we all know who the real fattest player in the West is… lol

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on May 6, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think you watch hockey.

You shut down Toews, Kane, and Hossa? They had 7 points last night.

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by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2010 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about man? We didn’t shut them down….

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on May 6, 2010 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

bazinga

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by JaredFromLondon on May 6, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 6, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wellwood looked so sad in the penalty box at the start of the 3rd last night…

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on May 6, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

he was probably wondering where his donuts went.

"...sometimes I wake up cradling a gourd."

by Fergus30 on May 6, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what my friend and I were saying…that being said Wellwood did have a couple good dangles last night. Too bad nothing came of them

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on May 6, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be honest, Welly was decent last night. Drew a couple of penalties, was 9-2 on the draws, and was pretty physical sometimes. His linemates were shit though (Demo/Bernier).

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on May 6, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes me think....

what you fat f*cks look like with your shirt off.
I shudder to even think about it. Fattys.

by Mojo J on May 6, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wellwood only has one look, and that was it. Sad is a fitting descriptor, but I don’t think it means he feels sad.

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by GAHHHHH! on May 6, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great pic.

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by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

On behalf of Missy.

Post some titles, please and thank you.

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by eightyseven on May 6, 2010 9:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

thanks

i’ve been pretty lazy about that lately…

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by missy on May 6, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

pwned

leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.

by stucky on May 6, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

What does that say about the Canucks then?

by yrmom on May 6, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

if that goal wasn't kicked in

dustin buttugly is actually 240 lbs, not the 280 he really is. not that it mattered, the canucks had already shit the bed but seeing random assclowns get hat tricks against the canucks really really frosts me. seriously, byfuglien is a terrible player, did nothing during the season, did nothing in the nashville series but he’s the second coming of cam neely against vancouver.

if gillis doesn’t put a priority on getting some players with more size second round knockouts are going to be the perpetual ceiling for this team. they aren’t built to grind it out against bigger forwards in the playoffs, and somehow aren’t good enough to play the speed/skill game and win.

by bitterguy on May 5, 2010 11:31 PM PDT reply actions  

You're kinda bitter, guy

Profanity aside, I can’t say I completely disagree. I watched for years in Ottawa as the Senators were ousted by the Leafs in the playoffs. The knock on the team was always too soft, too hesitant to crash the net, and too unable to show a hint of grit. It’s incredibly frustrating when you’d watch guys like Gary Roberts and Darcy Tucker fling themselves into situations that your guys won’t. Then they score, and it’s all the worse.

Interestingly, Sami Salo was one of our best defencemen during that time, too. I love Sami.

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by Ryan Classic on May 5, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can have him after this season.

Give us Karlsson or Volchenkov.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

i’m on board for volchenkov. he blocks more shots than the whole canuck roster this playoff.

by bitterguy on May 6, 2010 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're far more likely to get Volchenkov since he's a UFA

Karlsson’s ours. We’ve all fallen in love with him and there’s nothing you can do about it.

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by Ryan Classic on May 6, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching the highlights right now. Terrible rebound control by Luongo on the first two goals. And holy shit Byfuglien’s 3rd goal was absolute babytown frolics. A complete joke.

But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 5, 2010 11:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Byfuglien isn’t there yet, but it looks like he’s taking lessons from Corey Perry in the field of goalmouth douchebaggery.

But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 5, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I forgot about that part. Maybe Canucks should get in Niemi’s space more. Match what the Hawks do to Lou? And Lou does need to cut down on the theatrics. I’m talking past tense here. All his showmanship and exaggerating over the past years can’t be helping his reputation. Just saying

by Sean Zandberg on May 6, 2010 12:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Guess I’m alone here, but I fucking loved how Vancouver played this game. Relentless forecheck. Physical. Kept everything outside. I can’t complain about anything except getting sucked in to the chirping and lack of discipline they have, up til this point avoiding.

The game changer here is showing respect for the goalie. Burish said straight up in the press they need to run Luongo. We all laughed and called him an idiot because obviously the NHL will be looking for it. Well I feel stupid. Thet have done exactly that and earned their goals that way while the Nucks do everything in their power to avoid contact with Niemi.

Time to run him, and run him often. Trying to put the puck upstairs and over him is pointless when you can push him straight into the net or make as much contact as possible. Fuck it. Run him or lose the series.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 6, 2010 12:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I didn’t know standing in front of the net ala Tomas Holmstrom was running the goalie. Try having your D corp do something about the guys in front of your goalie.

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by anActiveStick on May 6, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just think it would be easier to lean into yours. He’s remained untouched all series.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 6, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Running the goalie is the new SJ powerplay.

Most of the time you get a goal.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had no idea that Chicago liked to compare itself to Detroit.

“standing in front of the net”. Shake your head, man.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 6, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leave it…did u not notice in the game thread, this active stick tool shows up after the game and throws out a bunch of troll-ish comments? He’s obviously a kid, leave him be.

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by GAHHHHH! on May 6, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

Done.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 6, 2010 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree here, pretty much (not that you’re really curious about that, probably). I thought your forecheck was relentless; but whenever Niemi wasn’t covering the puck then our D was either finding an outlet above the blue line by banking the puck out, or they had a short pass to the circle.

Most of the time, though, you guys sustained pressure but just couldn’t translate that to the front of the net. In a nutshell, it was a story of rebounds and the ability to get to them.

The late Buff goal shouldn’t have counted, obviously, and I expect a tightening up on crease calls next game simply to clean up that area of the game … for both teams.

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by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2010 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

PS I don’t think we’re “running” Luongo. I haven’t seen any plays where our players appear to be trying to injure Luongo. They are trying to bug the shit out of him with incidental contact, and it seemed to work last night. I didn’t really see any blatant interference calls except for possibly the last Byfuglien goal.

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by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2010 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is exactly

why so many teams try to have players emulate Tomas (ass)Holmstrom. He is an artist at dancing the line between goalie interference and offensive brilliance. That guy can’t retire fast enough

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by AirTrafficAJ on May 6, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Chicago D was pretty stifling in their own end. The Canucks were swarming but couldn’t make any real beauty passes.

by marcness52 on May 6, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sounds lie a good plan to me.
 
Vancouver treats Niemi with awe and respect. They are avoiding his as he had the plague, God forbid, to interfere with his state of mind, never mind his body.

Chicago treats Luongo like tralier trash, they push, kick, shove him, and often just sit on him, for fun.

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by AttilaS on May 6, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stupid Samuelson

How can a player be so hot in one series, and disappear in the next? I really hope the come back and stomp the Hawks! I’m not worried right now, but if they go to 3-1 then I’ll start biting my nails

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by HowToHockey.com on May 6, 2010 1:11 AM PDT reply actions  

He got a goal last game...

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately...

Samuelsson has always been a streaky scorer – it’s one of the things that drove Red Wings fans nuts about him for years. When he is on, everything goes in and he can carry a line for a while; when he’s cold, he beats the glass wide of the goal to death.

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by Baroque on May 6, 2010 4:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Samuelsson was one of the better Canucks I thought. At least he shoots, and last night he pounded out a bunch of hits too.

by Sean Zandberg on May 6, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

The good news is I called the score! Just had the damn teams backwards, and picked the wrong team’s resident stone handed douche to score the winner. Sigh.

I agree with kesrows tho, and I said it in the game thread too…the team played great, and we lost due to stupid errors by people; it’s a game of inches, it doesn’t take much blah blah blah…it’s all true. If bieksa wasn’t mentally handicapped and if Burrows doesn’t take the dumbest penalty in the history of burrows taking dumb penalties, and if demitra puts out a 4 million dollar effort instead of that Taylor Pyatt type thing he did tonight (you all know what I mean…lazy assed underperforming cap suck…) that’s a different game.

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by GAHHHHH! on May 6, 2010 1:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Gonna watch the whole thing again front to back in the morning. See if I view it differently…but I doubt it.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 6, 2010 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to call out Burrows big time. I don’t care if he got a goal, that roughing penalty he took was the game changer.

The Canucks had just scored, the Hawks had just iced it with a non top defensive pair/line out, the Sedins were ready to come on, we had all the momentum…and then HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME I’M GOING TO BE A TOUGH GUY HUH HUH.

Absolutely the dumbest, uglier than Byfuglien, assfucking penalty to take. Negate the icing, go a man down, go back down by 2, lose the momentum, send my blood pressure to 200/180 as want to throw things at my friend’s nice TV.

Seriously, where the fuck was the composure? They’re playing right into the Hawks game, letting the chirping get to them. Do you think the Hawks care that you go after them? NO BECAUSE THEY GET PPs AND SCORE. How about we play the “ignore them and just score on them” method of chirping. Anyone?

That being said, I still have confidence they can pull this off. We went down 2-1 to LA after 2 bad losses and still came back. Granted Chicago is a better team (yes/no?), but I still believe. Just fix the composure issues.

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by Semi_Colon on May 6, 2010 4:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Take the negative local papers with a grain of salt.

Remember what they were writing after game 3 of the Kings series, a 5-3 loss. I believe one of the headlines was season torpedoed or something to that effect. They look for the most dramatic angle but don’t let it suck you in. For the most part, even last night, the Canucks have been getting more scoring chances and have been the better team.

by Canuckelhead on May 6, 2010 9:11 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah, i know

i’m looking for links right now to put into the squid, i have to browse through it all…..

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by missy on May 6, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor you.

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by eightyseven on May 6, 2010 9:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t know, except for Game 1 where you wiped us, I’d say both teams have been pretty even, the difference being the results on stray pucks and rebounds.

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by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

And powerplays

Canucks just haven’t had finish on them

by SteveNux on May 6, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, yes

Our PK has been phenomenal all year long, and it seems we’ve even ramped it up a notch for the playoffs. Our PP, though, has been simply pathetic for the most part, and so I’m surprised special teams haven’t just been a wash so far in this series.

Of course, we’re only three games in …

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by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Besides game 2 where vancouver lost a bit of their edge after getting two quick goals, it seems like the Canucks have carried the majority of the play. Certainly getting more chances. It’s one of the reasons I thought Luongo wasn’t sharp, he seems to get like that sometimes when he doesn’t get some pucks hitting him early. The canucks carrying the play but losing the game was the same story in the L.A. series just to a lesser degree here.

by Canuckelhead on May 6, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see the argument, but again, leaving game one out of the equation, if the Canucks have carried the majority of play, like you say, I’d just counter that it’s not a drastic majority, not one that would lead me to call them the better team. I think these two teams are really evenly matched.

Chances aside, what does disturb me so far is that Vancouver seems to be beating Chicago in the puck possession game, which tends to be our strength.

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by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I certainly would agree that these two teams are evenly matched.

by Canuckelhead on May 6, 2010 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Shane O’Brien said pre-game that the Canucks were too passive in the first 2 games of the series and wanted them to push back. Well, pushing back in Game 3 only led to boneheaded penalties and a lack of composure

Me yesterday:

I hope O’Brien realizes that all he’d better do is hit people on the boards, because shit after the whistle will kill us.

Fuckin’ Shane.

by ShiftySC on May 6, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Really? You’re gonna blame Shane O’Brien and his one penalty for that loss? Wow…get over last year shifty. He did make a mistake on the…uh was it the second goal? One of the ealy ones…but other than that he was ok and I’d take two of him over a bieksa the way they both played last nite any day.

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by GAHHHHH! on May 6, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

He made a huge mistake on the critical fourth goal of the Hawks when he tried to hard to hit Hossa, lost his stick as a result of the hit. Hossa of course was quicker than O’Brien to get in front of the net and O’Brien was not able to do anything without his stick and chasing Hossa from behind.

by SJKel on May 6, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

SOB deserves some of the blame, but not all of it.

Juice deserves most of the blame if we’re going to blame defenseman. Im so fucking tired of his shittiness. And Burrows, even though he’s my favourite player….. I have to admit that was the stupidest fucking penalty Ive seen him take in a long time.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh buddy slow down. He’s part of it, but the point was that in the Sun article Shane said his team needed to be less passive and it failed miserably, as I predicted. It was stupid of him to say, and it’s fun to say “fuckin”. That’s all. Your boy is still cool with me, he’s having a decent season.

by ShiftySC on May 6, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh he’s not my boy, I just didn’t feel putting last night on him was correct, that’s all. Maybe I jumped on you a bit quick, but let’s face it, there are tons of people around who will never see good in SOB because of his mistakes last year. It gets a bit tired, as players do improve and he’s kind of been the poster boy for it between last season and this….occasional brainfarts notwithstanding.

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by GAHHHHH! on May 6, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Just sayin’, I wasn’t putting last night on him. But the mentality was quoted by him, and it turned out poorly. That’s all.

by ShiftySC on May 6, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

wowwwee

That game was an adventure live.

It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties

by Alix on May 6, 2010 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

There isn’t enough beer in the world…

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by Yankee Canuck on May 6, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Byfuglien

is somehow even douchier live.

WHY WOULDN’T THEY SHOOT HIGH ON NEIMI?!?!?!

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by Alix on May 6, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

WHY WOULDN’T THEY SHOOT HIGH ON NEIMI?!?!?!

That is a real biggy for me too. Fuck. Still frustrated.
They started catching on to that concept in the 3rd period. Yeah it took them that long. But on the flipped side of the coin, Niemi lets out a lot of rebounds if you shoot low.
Those chances in close on him should have been buried regardless.
Hawks cock clocked a lot of shots too and played real well in front of their Finnish flopper

by Sean Zandberg on May 6, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rebounds HAVE to be buried.

If the Canucks want to win they MUST capitalize on their chances. CHI doesn’t give up very many chances, and the Canucks have to make them pay for those that they make.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 6, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

going low on Niemi

is the right strategy. Luckily for Hawk fans, the close-in opportunities that required elevating the puck didn’t manifest themselves.

by aeroplane on May 6, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a hawks fan

i was wondering the same thing, Im glad they didnt…I had the same frustration when we were playing against Bryzgalov

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by BigCSouthside on May 6, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really think the reason for shooting low is

Niemi is known as a big rebound Goalie. You shot High and he stops it, the play is dead, shoot low get and pounce on the rebounds. But the thing is, from his SO vs FLA in Europe to last night, he has learned how to better control rebounds, not stop them, but he has much better control. I think this is what VAN is trying to exploit. Shoot low, and hope to get the rebound, just like the Hawks on LU. The Difference is, the Hawks D-Men are much stronger and better at clearing those rebounds (less game 1 disaster) compared to VAN D-Men. This is one of the biggest things VAN needs to quickly adjust and compensate for in game 4 and on.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

shoot low get and pounce on the rebounds
The Difference is, the Hawks D-Men are much stronger and better at clearing those rebounds (less game 1 disaster) compared to VAN D-Men.

That’s been the series so far, hasn’t it? In game one the Hawks D fell asleep, in the last 5 & 1/2th quarters they’ve played more like their fans have come to expect…

by DaleHalas on May 6, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are making Bfugylien the focus of this series

Which has to stop, now. Focus on, you know, the good players.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on May 6, 2010 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I agree

focus on players capable of scoring a hat trick.

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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now you're just being difficult. :)

You know what I mean. The media has been playing up the Buff angle, and I think the Canucks need to get back to playing their own game, like they were talking about.

Buff is not a talented player, we just made him look very good, and allowed him to get way too much under everyone’s skin.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on May 6, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was about to say pretty much the same thing.

He’s been mediocre at best. But the media went out of their way to shine some huge spotlight on him. Which he seems to have responded to.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 6, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buff's last goal was BS goalie interference....

….and he’s a shitty, lazy player during the year.

Something about Vancouver riles him up to play better, and I think it’s a crowd that comes into the building hating him before he even steps onto the ice. He wants to rub it in the face of every fan in the building.

If he would play like this every game during the year, Chicago fans wouldnt be begging Bowman to toss him in the great salary dump of the 2010 summer.

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by mhsilver on May 6, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh I forgot....

The fact is that Buff can be a good player when he wants to be.

He gets in people’s faces, causes shenanigans after the whistle and refuses to fight afterward….which is pretty much what Kesler and Burrows do, plus score some goals to boot.

When he stands in the crease and fights for space, that’s all legal and good hockey play. Its when he elbow-drops Luongo that he needs to get penalized.

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by mhsilver on May 6, 2010 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed. The reffing was pretty good at first, but it really started slipping.

by SteveNux on May 6, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, as a Blues fan living in Hawks territory, let me give you the book on Niemi

The crashing the net on him will not work. It’s harder to elevate the puck from close in and Antti has quick legs. He has a good blocker and a passable glove. He doesn’t go down as early as Huet.
The trick to beating Niemi on a regular basis is to put a guy in the slot between the circles and just wait for him to kick metric shit-tons of pucks to you.

by wennington4 on May 6, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I noticed this too. Unlike most goalies where rebounds are generally picked up around the crease, Niemi has the puck come off him at a faster speed than it arrives. Exactly the same thing we saw from Quick in Round 1.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 6, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chicago does a better job of handling the rebounds

Niemi gave up way more juicy rebounds than Lou did last night, but the Chicago defense and back-checking forwards were always there looking for them, scooping them out of the way before they turned into chances and goals.

It all comes back to Van’s D. They arent fast or skilled enough to content with Chicago, and they arent big and strong enough to move Buff. It is a dilemma.

Blackhawks bleed Red & White.
We are all Canucks...including Toews, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, Brian Campbell...need I go on?

by mhsilver on May 6, 2010 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

The top 3 are it's the bottom

3 that is the problem.

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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The top 3 are...

The top two Vancouver D Pair’s GVT impact comes more from the offensive guy’s performance than the defensive side. As such they are more similar to Campbell and the Hawks Hammer second D pair. They have a higher combined GVT then those two but they are more similar to them then the Seab’s Keith matchup…

by DaleHalas on May 6, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

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