All Start, No Finish: Game II Post Thread
by Yankee Canuck on May 3, 2010 8:46 PM PDT
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Moral? Can't win hockey games without it. Can't hand 40 minutes right to the opponent like you don't care. Can't win if you play like it's 2009 again.
What a waste of Luongo's effort, even if he was stealing it at the end. Get your shit together for game three.
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Moral? Don't go all defense after the first 10 minutes on the road.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
Moral
Play to your strengths. To be honest the nucks defense is not good enough to contain a good offense for 40 minutes. When Toews and Kane turn it on, they can score.
Sure if your up by two play a bit more defensively minded, but what the nucks do have is three lines that can score, so keep the pressure on throughout the entire game!
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by HowToHockey.com on May 5, 2010 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions
at least CBC joined Just For Laughs Gags in progress….
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Can’t win a game without it? Man do I know that.
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Haven't the Nucks learned
Playing the trap in the United Center doesn’t work?
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i guess not quite yet.
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will they ever?
WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on May 3, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Game 1…Hawk defense backed off the Twins.
Game 2…Hawk defense attacked the Twins.
That was the difference. The notion that the Canucks could continue to play the same game they did in Game 1, when the Hawks (after the first 10 minutes, mind you) weren’t going to play that same game that allowed the Canucks to dominate. The Canucks had to change…and they did to an extent, but not enough.
Home ice advantage is the Canucks…don’t screw it up boyz.
I wish our guys woulda stuck up for them the twins a bit.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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would’ve been nice
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by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on May 3, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the few pluses on Vancouver’s side is they played composed. Besides Rypien, they didn’t retaliate or get into anything unnecessary. It’s a rare moment when you can say that.
And look at the result. I dunno.
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there was a lot of good defensive play in this game by the Canucks, the problem was… most of it wasn’t in the 3rd period. frustrated that they didn’t take advantage of some opportunities. Chicago got the bounces tonight like we did Saturday no doubt. Eager and Burish were a non-factor in the game apart from Burish getting a breakaway. But seriously, what would he do with it?
relax. regroup. get back to winning wednesday.
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Note to Vigneault
Game 1 (2009) – Take 2-0 lead, fall behind 3-2, win 5-3.
Game 2 (2009) – Take 2-0 lead, lose 6-3.
Game 4 (2009) – Take 1-0 lead, sit on it for most of game, lost 2-1 in OT.
Game 6 (2009) – Take 1-0 lead, then 5-4 lead in 3rd period, lose 7-5.
Game 2 (2010) – Take 2-0 lead, sit on it, lose 4-2.
You’ve got to learn how to play these guys by now.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
Roughly the same team as last year though.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I think there’s some fundamental differences, both good and bad…
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The work that you did one year ago, do you do it at the same skill level today or the same? I’d say everyone is better than last year…and it showed in their composure during this series vs last year.
The boyz will be fine…bring on Game 3
I meant Chicago’s roughly the same, apart from Hossa and Niemi and losing Wiz etc.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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It's the same style and just a few different players.
The Canucks snatched defeat from the jaws of victory too many times last year in the Chicago series and it cost them.
I don’t want to go down that road again.
"It's fourth and fifteen and you're looking at a full-court press." - Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad
I agree. AV hasn’t touched the whole fall back and protect alead thing in ages (or at least the playoffs), I couldn’t believe I saw 4 guys standing on the blueline tonight. It almost seems like AV got scared and went for his security blanket. The one which always turns out to be dipped in kerosene.
Shove it in your addendum.
we didnt have Wiz wear last year
he was traded at the trade deadline… just thought i would throw that out there
Drink it up!
There seemed to be a bit of a perk up after the 2-2 goal…the Canucks kind of got their legs back under them. One thing I saw over the course of the game – the boards seemed soft. Canucks kept trying to put it out the boards, and their passes, or clearing attempts just lost a tonne of momentum off the side walls. Even a few passes/shots in the offensive zone – the puck just died, and you could occaisionally see a Canuck player going to where the puck would have been, but instead it sat down.
Anyone teach hockey to kids?
Care to print this out to teach them anything? (h/t/ KB)
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by Yankee Canuck on May 3, 2010 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yup. All the composure they’ve showed disappeared in those last minutes. Sprawling around like Surrey girls.
Shove it in your addendum.
by kesrows on May 3, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
(Most) Surrey girls.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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I’ll say a thank you as well from a Vancouver girl who got stuck marrying a Surrey guy…but at least I live in the nice part??
by sunshine and lollipops on May 4, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Forgive me, but I married a ….shudder…. a Calgary girl.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Must be fun at your house during certain regular season games…
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rec'd, for the surrey girls comment.
Most Surrey girls, eightyseven.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 3, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Vigneault with a boring post game interview……..SURPRISE!
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by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on May 3, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
what the hell
another Toronto reporter talking smack… this time it’s personal and kinda bizarre…
these tweets are from Toronto Sun reporter Steve Simmons
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National pride be damned, I can’t cheer for any team that is run by the creepy Mike Gillis, former employer of the even creepier, Dave Frost
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oh yay, Wipeout All-Stars episode!
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by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on May 3, 2010 9:06 PM PDT reply actions
i hope it doesn’t, don’t think i could stand two more losses, let alone a game 7 loss
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by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on May 3, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I said all along I thought it was going 7, the win saturday didn’t change that
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Good game tonight, I picked the Nucks to win in 4 or 5, I guess its going 5 then. Chicago was jumpin the gun tonight on there rushes, 3 guys going and they got away with it all night. I don’t know how many passes were thrown into the middle of the ice from the boards to be picked up by Hawks in full speed.
The Nucks best catch that by next game, if they can disrupt it or get a costly turnover, it will scare the hawks from tryin it so much.
As for tonights loss, doesnt bother me at all. AV gets his matchups for the next 2, and I cant see Queen keepin up.
My girlfriend:
“I wish the Casucks hadn’t sucked tonight”
Canucks should try to ACTUALLY SCORE ON THE POWER PLAY. IF YOU DO THAT ITS HARD FOR THE OPPONENT TO TIE THE GAME.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on May 3, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions
EVEN IF YOU FORGET HOW TO PLAY HOCKEY.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 3, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
What I noticed..
-the Canucks looked afraid to take hits when there were board battles and thus didn’t have much puck possession
-there was hardly any forechecking, letting their D-men off too easy
-didn’t test Niemi enough (no one in his face and missed the net a lot)
-they looked slow and/or the Hawks were pretty fast
-overall passing just didn’t look good/crisp
Poutine & Meatballs
The good things...
-discipline; only took 2 penalties
-PK looked solid
-32-24 on the draws
-Luongo, Kesler, Raymond
Poutine & Meatballs
I fully expected at the onset of the series Canucks would steal Game 1 (not blowout) then probably give up Game 2. I know I predicted a 4-2 Canuck win tonight, but I’ve been doing it all playoffs. So why stop now?
Actually agreed with a 3-2 Hawks win like Z called. But when you live in the boonies you can safely make these predictions. People who intend to teach you a lesson get tired halfway through the trip and decide it’s not worth it.
The downfall tonight was simply deciding all of a sudden Zamboni is an elite NHL goalie who will stop everything thrown at him. They spent so much time trying for the perfect shot they got none at all. Made our PP look ridiculous and gave them the chance to set up for PK breaks. This needs to be taken care of immediately.
Hawks played a solid aggressive, physical game and the Canucks tried once again to preserve a narrow lead. Hawks eaned it. Vancouver should be happy with the split.
…but it still sucks.
Shove it in your addendum.
This series is going to kill us all.
Wake me for the forth overtime in game 7.
by Ghost of Bill Wirtz on May 3, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions
At least I feel better about being tied at one this year than I did last year. That means something right?
/grabs more beer, talks to voices in head
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The way I see it, Chicago had to win this game, losing was not an option.
Vancouver was already happy with a split before the game even started. They didn’t try nearly as hard as they did on Sunday.
So, let’s just enjoy the spit, and get back to business on Wednesday.
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Yup
And while Vancouver didn’t press at all, they still kept it close through badly tilted ice. If Bieksa had slammed his chance home in the first and made it 3-0, who knows. Same deal with Kane in game one really. Nothing is over yet but tonight shows they have find another gear.
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by Yankee Canuck on May 3, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't think you guys looked bad
I kept counting how many ment were on the ice. I would have sworn there were at least 10 at a time the way you were all over our offence.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
The Hawks were really strong on the puck, in the corners. There were stretches when they were circling the Canucks’ net forever, and nobody could take the puck away. Tthe Sedins did similar things at times, but the Hawks defence did a good job knocking the forwards off balance and disrupting the flow.
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Your twins are still scary good.
They piss me off on a regular basis. I think one of our keys is being able to make their game ineffective.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
We feel the same way about Kane.
Toews seems to be turning the corner too. I don’t like this.
Shove it in your addendum.
Versteeg’s first of the playoffs = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by Sean Zandberg on May 4, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
And it’s the motherfucker’s last.
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it just might be
you never know when he will bring his A game
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I basically agree
The credit goes to the Hawks- they responded after going down 2-0 with urgency and desperation. If the Hakws weren’t playing desperate, Seabrook wouldn’t have been within 10 feet of the puck on the first goal. This is the character Hawks fans have been hoping to see.
With a game in hand and the lead, it was virtually impssible for the Nucks to match the Hakws inensity at that time.
Still, Lu was very solid, and though the Hawks continued to enjoy an edge in play, over 40 minutes went by with no scoring, and the Nucks almost pulled off a 2-1 victory.
Great hockey! More to come.
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Was it just me, or it looked like Alberts looked better than Bieksa? He even had to bail Bieksa out once, and had to take a penalty, but they killed it off.
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For his role, AA has been pretty solid since Game 5 last series.
I can’t expound right now, but I’ve had enough of Bieksa and what he brings.
Poutine & Meatballs
Yeah, I have mixed feelings about him. But may be this is not the best time to jump on anybody.
Los Angeles, CA
I am also growing weary of Juice and his mistakes/slowness.
But I’ll wait before I crucify anyone.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 3, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Bieksa often brings a certain lackadaisiality to the game….and what’s with all those reckless blind Sedin passes? Could be a result of the tenacious Chi D?
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by Section 312 on May 4, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
You can play it here though. Good memories!
by Sean Zandberg on May 4, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The most beautiful sight in the world...
…Luongo face planted.
I also loved watching Seabrook turn the canuck’s first line into bowling pins.
Hope to see some more of that, it was ten minutes of canucks hockey and then 50 minutes of the Blackhawks train of pain. Fun game to watch looking forward to some more.
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by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions
Best thing about tonights game?
After it was over I switched to Encore Avenue and watched Repo Man.
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People:
Don’t get too high or too low. Game one went perfectly. We came out firing tonight until the Hawks realized they had to win to save the series. Yeah it was very disappointing but I feel like at home it will be a whole new series and the fire will be there for our boys. Let’s get em Wednesday. GO CANUCKS GO!!
by Woodinville_12thMan on May 3, 2010 11:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Exactly. Two games in, and Chicago has held a lead for all of 90 seconds. Come home, identify what was good, what was bad and adjust accordingly. There will not be a repeat of last season. This series is just getting warmed up.
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How's the Golf game going Nashville?
It does not matter how long you lead, just that you do lead after 60 minutes. I would rather lead the next 3 of 5 games for a collective 90 seconds than lead for 59:30 each game, provided it is the last 30 seconds of each of those games you have the lead!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 4, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s leaving a pretty narrow margin, IMO.
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Very much So
I would prefer to lead the next 180, but that ain’t happening!
The point of the matter is, it does not matter how long you lead, just that you do lead at the end of the game. If you lead each game for the 59:30, but the other 30 secs is at the end, the score does not reflect that, it will show only a L.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 4, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The blackhawks maybe led for all of 20 minutes in last year's series with the Canucks
how’d that work out?
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by Detroit Must Die on May 4, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
bottom line: canucks didn't answer
they played a spectacular first 8 minutes, after that it was a decline for the rest of the game as the hawks ramped up their intensity and the canucks couldn’t step it up with them. not skating the puck out of your own zone, not burying grade a chances, not going to the net are all going to hurt you in the playoffs.
fact is that if the canucks step up in this game and keep a foot on chicago’s throat they basically win the series. now that they’ve breathed cockiness and resolve back into them by folding again they’ll have to fight their asses off just to get some momentum back.
How does that compare...
…with games 3 and 4 from last year’s series? I think the only time the Hawks led was the nanosecond when the OT goal went in in game 4.
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But the Hawks did have a lead in game that lasted more than a period. When compared with game 4 last year, the Canucks played a better game overall. In that game, the Canucks had 15 shots on goal, 9 blocked and 2 missed (26 total). Chicago had 28 shots on goal, 9 blocked and 12 missed (49 total). Last night, the Canucks had 26, 18, and 18 (62 total), the Hawks had 34, 16, 13 (62 total). The Canucks had a lot more chances in game 2 this year relative to game 4 last year.
All this to-do...
…and we’ve played what, two games?
All the right, straight thinking people said after the Canucks’ thorough whipping of the Hawks in game 1…it’s only one game…don’t get too excited…each game is a new one.
And here, now, after the Hawks saved themselves with a good period, it needs to be said again….this is but one game…and one game cannot be made a harbinger for the rest of a series. There are still(at least)three more games left to play here.
All true fans of hockey and both teams know, based on how both teams played all year and particularly against each other, that these are two very equally matched hockey teams. And what’s coming next in this series is anybody’s guess.
What do we REALLY know about this series, based on the first two games?
We know both teams have what it takes to win this series, depending on how well they play from here. And who wins it will depend on which team responds best from this point forward.
Period. That’s all anybody knows, no matter how profound an analyst one thinks he/she is.
I hope it’s the Canucks…and of course, it can be. But of course, it might not be, too.
Stay cool, everyone…and stay tuned.
by Inquirer on May 4, 2010 7:16 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for truthiness, dude.
after game 1, and even after our 2 quick goals in game 2, some idiots were calling a sweep for the series, it was seriously pissing me off!
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This idiot called for a Canucks sweep before the series began. Niemi is a rookie and basically untested in playoff hockey and the Canucks have to keep pelting him with shot after shot after shot.
yeah, calling a sweep was a really bad move on your part.
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bah! What does it hurt? Anything can happen. It’s all in good fun too
by Sean Zandberg on May 4, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Amen!
Keep it up. Love the karma!
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I think Auntie is going to get a shutout in game 3
by Sean Zandberg on May 4, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL oh this one's going to bite you in the ass
he’s due for one this series :)
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Being a shitty clairvoyant when it comes to hockey, I don’t take predicting very seriously, and with that attitiude I figured, what the hell, let me predict the Canucks in 4 and if it actually happens I’ll jump from the bottom of the predicting pool to maybe the middle:)
I don’t hold much store in shutout and sweep jinx’s, and yet I fully believe in wearing the lucky jersey (we’ve only lost on games where I haven’t worn it this season…seriously…not that I wore it every game we won either…) and not doing stupid things like planning the parade route and painting murals of the cup and pigs on walls.
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