Gillis - Vigneault Press Conference
by Sean Zandberg on May 14, 2010 11:39 AM PDT
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PrintIn case you missed the presser, I'll give you a quick summary of what I heard.Keep in mind, the damned feed kept freezing on me.
Gillis: Didn't compete in playoffs the same as regular season. Need time to evaluate why that happened. Want to address why they couldn't compete before addressing changes. (That was a recurring theme early on in the presser)
Gilis: Team lost focus and had difficulty regaining it in Chicago series.
Gillis: Players made dramatic improvements in regular season, 7 players had career seasons. Canucks didn't match Chicago's emotional level this year or last year. Can't say that the Canucks were the better team. If Chicago was better than Vancouver in certain areas then they were the better team.
Gillis: Spend some time with Roberto and talk to him about captaincy. They like his leadership ability.
Gillis: This summer Canucks have core players signed with lots of cap room. The Canucks need pushes from younger players that were selected. That's where the team can make headway. Young players need to step up to make the team. When they do then Mike's plan that he laid out will come into effect.
-Gillis asked the League to review the Malkin hit on Mitchell
AV: Canucks are a good team. They will improve. In the Chicago series the Hawks won the battle in front of both nets. Canucks could have done better protecting their goaltender.
Gillis: A lot of stuff going on, Olympics and huge road trip. They will look at the amount of games that Luongo plays and see if it really is beneficial to him.
AV: Breakdowns and odd man rushes against in the playoffs came from turnovers
Gillis: Wants a bit more experience for his roster. Guys that don't deviate from the game plan when pressure is on and guys that are patient. When Chicago scored the shorthanded goal in game 2 the team acted like the game plan was not good enough and strayed from it.
Gillis: Would not answer questions about who they want to keep. It's too early after the loss.
Gillis: Cody Hodgson will dictate whether he is ready to play on the team. Management has great faith in him.
AV: Considered dressing 7 D-men for game 6 but at warmup Salo said there was no issues with him and so they decided to go with 6. Hordichuk didn't play because they felt toughness wasn't really an issue but speed and transition was.
Gillis: If the Canucks have any opportunity to improve on July 1st they will go for it.
Gillis: On Ian Clarke not being around full time: who knows. They'll talk about it.
Gillis: AV is signed for 3 years. Management made that commitment to him. Looking at the player personnel will be the first priority
Gillis: SOB beats to his own drum. He has shown signs that he can be a great player. He needs to come to the conclusion as to what kind of player he wants to be. OB needs to make a decision.
Gillis: It's complete commitment from all the players whether they are big or small. Gillis has no preference over a bigger or smaller team. He kept referencing Montreal and their sizes and their success. He likes the up-tempo style of the Canucks but this needs to be translated into playoff success. The coaching staff has adopted Gillis' desires for this style of play.
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Nothing in there that you couldn't have predicted
before hand. These post season pressers are always the same. They need to take time to figure out what to do and they aren’t going to tell us what they have planned anyway. They will consider Luongo’s C and if they should play him less and bring in a full time goalie coach. That’s a start. Hopefully they come to the right decisions there whatever they may be. I sure hope the opportunity to improve on July 1st is there and they do take it. Core locked up and close to being a cup contender with cap room this is the most important summer in our team’s history.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 14, 2010 11:49 AM PDT reply actions
He answered his strongest critics’ question: why didn’t he improve the D after it was clear that Mitch won’t be back. You can’t argue with his anwer: to get someone for 3 months and give up first-round picks and one of your best young players (Raymond, Schleider) makes no sense. I tend to agree. It’s one thing when you have many choices, and still do nothing, and it’s something else if the choices are just not there.
Los Angeles, CA
Maybe
but after two deadlines with contending teams and no big holes filled, I see a trend I don’t like, this team is not rebuilding, they are close and need management with the balls to make the big move to get them over the hump even if it means sacrificing something, you usually have to give to get and he hasn’t shown any willingness to part with value in return for value, he’s been a bargain hunter/dumpster diver and that’s fine if time is no object, but these windows of opportunity have a way of closing on teams a lot quicker than we would like to think.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I see positives in his comments, in his willingness to take a fresh look at the team in the off-season.
Also, even though I wouldn’t mind seeing AV go, I can see now that it would be almost impossible for Gillis to fire him, even if he wanted to. The reason is that during the regular season there were a lot of improvements, and AV has to get some credit for these: increased offensive production, succes during the “road trip from hell”, personal improvement of some individual players (Burr, Henrik, Raymond, etc). How can he fire the coach, while praising the team for these improvements?
Next year will be the big test for AV.
He could not give any answer to specific personnel questions – and that is understandable. It is too early to do that.
All in all, he didn’t seem to evade any question, and honestly answered the best he could.
Los Angeles, CA
Also, I now start to believe that Mitchell’s career is over. He will probably try to come back next year, but he will never be the same player again. It’s just a hunch, but hearing him yesterday, and listening to Gillis today, I just don’t see him as a future Canucks that we can count on.
Los Angeles, CA
I've been saying that
for a couple months.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 14, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
situations like his I would hope that agents/teams/NHLPA would sit down with him and say “look, you keep playing and your brain will literally turn to mush. How about we find you some other job in the orginzation?”
at some point someone has to look out for the players well-being. Players themselves are always going to want to be on the ice, that desire is why they made it to the NHL
There is no try. There's do and there's fu(%ing up royal
by Johnny Lava on May 14, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Gillis: Players made dramatic improvements in regular season, 7 players had career seasons. Canucks didn’t match Chicago’s emotional level this year or last year. Can’t say that the Canucks were the better team. If Chicago was better than Vancouver in certain areas then they were the better team.
Jesus, there it is, Gillis. Fuck the “emotional level” bullshit—you didn’t build a good enough team.
Did you think they weren't good enough
before the series started? Cause to me I thought the teams were reasonably even. Gillis probably did as well. Turns out we were wrong. This summer they have to learn from that and improve the team even more.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 14, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like last summer all over again.
This year the Canucks were supposed to be able to keep up with the Hawks. To me the most glaring differences were our depleted D and the simple fact that most players wearing the blue looked like they weren’t even trying/gave a shit.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
in Missy’s playoff prediction bracket, I said Hawks in 7. In light of this information, I should probably have adjusted that downwards.
by Passive Voice on May 14, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
although i should probably point out that my infallible crystal ball saw caps-pens pairing off right about now :D
by Passive Voice on May 14, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
That information also led to a prediction of penguins over habs in 4, for what it’s worth!
by Beantown Canuck on May 14, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
and wings in six. such is the nature of short series. i think though, it does illustrate that the ‘khawks were pretty legitimately better than us this year, and that they’d be expected to win this series more often than we would be.
by Passive Voice on May 14, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I said Canucks in 7.
Thought Caps in 5 over Habs, Hawks winning the cup if they beat us.
Well I was wrong about the first 2.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I had
Hawks beating Pens in final. Didn’t have Montreal or Boston or Philly in the final. Didn’t have Sharks in the WCF either.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 14, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a strong feeling that SJ would be making a deep run this year.
and I was right.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
During the season it was clear to me that some teams were at the elite level: San Jose, Chicago, Washington, Pittsburgh. The Canucks were at a level below those teams. So in terms of the Chi series, it should have been no surprise that the “elite” team won. Of course, like many here, I was thinking and hoping the Canucks would prevail. Reality has a way of slapping us in the face every so often.
by Bobby Canuck on May 15, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I just realized..
I never actually thanked all of you for welcoming me here on NM with open arms. Thanks for putting up with my hatred of Juice, SOB and Demo, and irrational love of Burrows. You even put up with my EXTREME snake phobia (hats off to you Yankee for taking down the viper picture). I really appreciate it and I will continue to try to throw in some rec-worthy comments and pictures every once in a while. And who knows, maybe next season I’ll climb the motherfucking Score Predicting standings again :D And the Flames won’t make the playoffs, and I’ll enjoy the schadenfreude, you should join in Sean :)
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2010 1:23 PM PDT reply actions
forgot to ask—how do you feel about the vernon vipers?
by Passive Voice on May 14, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
No beef with hockey teams.
Just with the horrid creatures called snakes.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
nothing irrational about loving burrows!
by Beantown Canuck on May 14, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Gagne scores! 4-3 Flyers.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Conference finals:
1st and 2nd in the West, 7th and 8th in the East. Huh.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Pretty sick for the Flyers.
I actually picked them to come out of the East pre-season.
Poutine & Meatballs
you should’ve picked them in the fantasy competitions. nobody picked the flyers to come out of the 2nd round alive. same for the habs, actually.
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number of predictions involving either habs, bruins and/or flyers going on to the eastern conference finals: 1.
i’m working on the leaderboards right now, should be able to post within the hour.
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3rd round schedule set.
just imagine if the Canucks had made it to the SCF’s this year, they could’ve played game 1 of that final series on my 20th birthday (june 1st)…..
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the big 2-0
that would have been a sweet birthday.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
only to be topped by Vancouver winning huge, and Lui posting a strong shut-out effort on that very day.
by Vancouverguy on May 14, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
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