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You can break our balls, but you cannot break our will.  We will rise, and take what is ours. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

That swagger, talked about so much leading up to and during this series has been diminished somewhat.  The Canucks planted the seed of doubt in the heads of the Blackhawks Sunday night, and with the pressure squarely on them again, they appear a bit rattled not just that they couldn't close the deal: more so that we didn't let them.  Sure they're trying to keep the mind games going.  The packing for San Jose stuff?  If it's such a non-story why did they make sure everyone knew?  That was put out to try and tell the Canucks they think it's a foregone conclusion.  There's only one Stanley in our heads, and it ain't Bowman.

Star-divide

I guess the game plan is simple, just take the things that worked Sunday and do them again.  Yes Chicago will be looking to crank things up, but as we've seen them do before, it inevitably leads to penalties.  Dustin Byfuglien will be trying to get to Luongo tonight.  Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews will be looking to swarm the net for chances.  Dave Bolland and Kris Versteeg are going to continue to be douchebags.  Adam Burrish and Ben Eager are going to continue to be the embarrassing mouth breathers they are and try to hurt guys again.  Fuck them.

History will be made is the theme of this year's NHL marketing campaign.  Tonight we get to take a little history back from them.  This time, Game 6 is ours.  If you want the series, you have to take it when it's winner take all in Game 7, and not tonight.  Game 5 reminded us one thing: when we play our game... we can beat you.  We can take your stars and render them ineffective.  We can take your role players and expose their weaknesses.  We can take your goons and punish them where it counts: on the scoreboard.

Sami Salo is listed as day to day and what we're hearing is that Lawrence Nycholat will draw in tonight, meaning big minutes for Kevin Bieksa, Christian Ehrhoff,  Alexander Edler and Shane O'Brien.  Either way, inspired by a ballsy gutsy team effort on Sunday, they will be ready to force this series to a 7th game tonight.  Their preparation heading into Game 5 was superb and you know the coaching staff will have them ready again tonight.

No, you'll not be going to San Jose.  We have unfinished business, and tonight is just us booking our travel plans back to Chicago for Game 7.  It doesn't matter that Salo went down, this team shall prevail.  The Canucklehead Army is rising, the nay sayers and shit talkers shall be put in their place.  We will rise, and take what is ours.  Not this year.  Not this time.  See you back in Chicago.

Habs do it again, Flyers get a costly one

Absolutely no quit in those Montreal Canadiens, eh?  Injuries and all they continue to make every team earn the victories and have now forced the Pittsburgh Penguins into a 1 game show down to advance to the Conference Final.  Going into game 6 everyone had written them off again.  Now, I wonder if the Penguins are going to be able to overcome this.  Sure this team has lots of experience in high pressure games, but they blew it last night.  And now they return to Pittsburgh, where a hot goalie and a team that's allowed just 1 goal from Sidney Crosby is looking to send the defending Cup Champions packing.

A gritty but costly win for the Flyers yesterday, as Brian Boucher sprained the MCL's in both knees in the second period of game 5 against the Bruins last  night.  Micheal Leighton came in and preserved the shutout for the Flyers who now head back to Philly tomorrow for game 6.  The Bruins just came out flat last night, showing no desire to be able to put the Flyers away, and will now have to try and do it in front of what should be a crazy crowd in Philadelphia.  Tazers for everyone, yay!

Team Canada went to 2-0 at the World Championships in Germany yesterday.  Playing against a gritty Latvian team that plays a smothering defensive style 5 on 5, the Canadians took advantage of the power play, scoring 4 times with the man advantage en route to a 6-1 victory.  John Tavares and Mark Giordano each scored twice for Canada, who also got goals from Tampa Bay teammates Steven Stamkos and Steve Downie.  Ryan Smith is done for the tournament with a fractured ankle, a big loss for the Canadian team as they will miss his veteran leadership and net presence.  Next up for Canada is the Swiss on Wednesday.

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Yeah, I was flabbergasted when I read about the packing thing. Now you really have to make them look stupid for wasting all that time packing.

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by OtherKid on May 11, 2010 7:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I don’t really see a problem with this. If Vancouver was in the same situation I would expect them to do the same. As long as their sleep expert concurs.

This is one of those things the media likes to blow up to give themselves one more thing to talk about other than Sami’s left nut.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s two things: one, they went out of their way to publicize this and two, it’s not really necessary. It’s just a mind game they’re trying to play. More them manipulating the media than anything else.

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. Our first disagreement.

I still believe it’s one of those things that one person hears it and it spreads like wildfire. Media gobble this stuff up like Kane’s sister. Sure it happens all the time, but this time some twat decide to exploit it.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

no… I think that it’s the Hawks pushing this and not the other way around. Of course they’re gonna take and try and push it, that’s their job. But this is Hawks front office and PR all the way.

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. I don’t think you and I are going to get anywhere on this one ;)

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

just admit you’re wrong and we can move on…

heh.

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

good idea

I was wrong to think I could rationalize with such a stubborn bugger :P

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

smart boy. now get the hell off my lawn. bastard.

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll go with Kesrows here, nothing to see ya stubborn old goat.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

grabs a rake

I’ll show ya stubborn…

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if you make it across the Pacific I’ll give it to you, and spot you a beer for being stubborn.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

heading to the ocean as we speak… remember, you asked for this…
:p

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

No problem, I’ll have the beer waiting for you.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m honored to have had a small hand in this.

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by OtherKid on May 11, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

you’re missing the awesome old man pic :P

by missy on May 11, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

BAAAAHHHHH HUMBUG! I will not read into the Hawks packing their bags already madness! It’s a non-issue! It’s not arrogance on their part. They hope to beat us tonight but are guaranteeing nothing. Not even with having their bags packed. This is just silly.

by Sean Zandberg on May 11, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course it's a head game.

Think about it. Why would they have to bring their stuff to San Jose? They could get extra bags to San Jose any number of other ways. It’s either Quenville sending a message to his players or to the Canucks but it’s pretty clearly a message.

by Canuckelhead on May 11, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not as if they just quietly made travel plans in the blackhawk offices

They went out of their way to make sure everyone knew they we’re packing for San Jose.

by Canuckelhead on May 11, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your wrong. This happens on any road trip. If the hawks win do you expect them to fly back to chicago, and get on a flight to SJ when the game could be thursday? The cost of that would be ridiculous and the jet lag would be awful. This story isint even being played in Chicago. The canadian papers are running with a non-story to hype up the drama. Its called selling papers and getting web hits. IMHO.

by jamesbhawk74 on May 11, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again, I agree. This is a non-story, which is why the Vancouver papers are all over it. Non-stories make for great pig-farm fodder.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

But why go so public with travel plans?

Why did several players talk about it if it’s a non story? Why did your coach bring it up?

by Canuckelhead on May 11, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Try asking the right question:

So what are you packing to take to Vancouver, Mr. Kane?

Seriously, journalists ask the dumbest questions sometimes.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

They were all asked the question I assume. It is not like they held a press conference that they were packing for SJ. Either way, maybe i am wrong but it appears to be pot stirring by the media. I admit it could be used as pretty good blackboard material for you guys

by jamesbhawk74 on May 11, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just to be clear.

I’m not saying it’s a huge story but it is clearly a story when the opposing team goes out of their way to let everyone know they are not planning on going back home. Just like it’s a bit if a story when their captain says he can’t wait for the series to be over before game 5.

by Canuckelhead on May 11, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are assuming they made a big deal out of it. I’m sure the Vancouver papers made a big deal out of it, you and I have no evidence that the Hawks made a big deal out of it.

Assumption = Vancouver papers run non-fluff pieces about hockey.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Toews comment also I think needs to be taken into the right context. Every player and every fan did not want to play the Canucks. Its normal to want it over as quick as possible. We all were hoping that you guys and detroit would meet so at least one of you would be elminated. As it worked out we met again but still want it over quick. Not that we think it will be quick.

by jamesbhawk74 on May 11, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Find the quote

cause I am pretty sure Quenville was asked why they had so much baggage. Probably by a “journalist” who was looking to dig up a story. And I guess it worked. This is a nothing story as I said yesterday. And making a big deal about it feeds into all of the stereotypes about Canucks fans. This series and this rivalry are moving along nicely without needing any help from the media trying to make up stories. I am sure the Canucks would and have done the same thing before in a similar situation and I am also sure they don’t see it as a slight or anything. They know the score on this one. Do you have any quotes from Vancouver players or staff saying this is a slap in the face? Of course not.

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by Section 312 on May 11, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or, what plans are you making for this trip Mr. Ladd?

Well, coach Q said we should pack some extra sticks and underwear in case we have to fly right to SJ if we win.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But since when do teams ever talk about travel plans? Let alone the coach making a point of talking about it on the way to the plane. It’s not as if he had to say anything. It wasn’t a press conference.

by Canuckelhead on May 11, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Think rsm already covered it. Thousands of dipshit questions asked daily. Trolling for something that can become a hot button topic (like this). Vancouver media is one of the worst culprits.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh no. He didn't cover it.

By that definition everything any writer or fan says that’s in any way editorial is looking for a “hot button topic”. We have no idea what the team is thinking, either team. Ever. All the article was pointing out was that they made a point of sharing their travel plans. Which is odd.

by Canuckelhead on May 11, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The team (hawks) are thinking: Finish this in Vancouveur because if we go back to chicago and shit the bed, the fans will have our heads.

by jamesbhawk74 on May 11, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

All the time. I’ve seen them discuss the travel clothing chosen by teams and individual players, their luggage, what they listen to on their music players, how they pack for a road trip… all kinds of moronic stuff that has nothing directly to do with hockey.

I can’t remember when it was, but I’m sure there was at least one case where I saw them discussing underwear shopping with an new free agent who had to leave in a hurry. sigh I’m not going to check my sources, but that’s off the top of my head at 1am.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what you're reading.

But I have never read an article about any athletes underwear.

by Canuckelhead on May 11, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then you obviously don’t read enough. The fact that you didn’t read the article I’m referencing doesn’t mean any of the following:

1. That you are right
2. That I am lying
3. That you have a point

I specifically recall it coming up in an interview with some free-agent or another. Whether it was in a Vancouver paper or not, I can’t say, I read a lot of hockey new, and skim even more.

The only thing you can take from my comment that either my memory may be faulty, which is possible, or that you didn’t read it. Which is great, you didn’t read one of several thousand articles published about hockey every year. Awesome, especially since the article is probably from at least 2 or 3+ years ago. You know, I didn’t read that article about that dude in the German league either. Sweet.

Sorry for the sarcasm, it’s 1am and I’m still editing a contract written in a language the writer barely is competent in.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still editing a contract written in a language the writer barely is competent in.

Sounds like Sean myself battling english.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

For all we know the media spotted peeps with extra luggage and started asking questions with alterior motives. That’s what the media does. And look!!! We all suckered for it!

by Sean Zandberg on May 11, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Sean myself battling english.

Cockbag! How’s that english for you? :)

by Sean Zandberg on May 11, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You done spoked it real good, sir.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember this one now…from (gasp) the Vancouver Sun. Surprised it’s not the Province, but hey, it’s all Canwest.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hadn’t read that one before, but that’s pretty funny at 1am.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

But why go so public with travel plans?

All sports team’s PR departments tell the local sports media their itinerary. How else are the local beat writers going to meet up with them at remote locations? That is standard operating procedure for any sports team.

by DaleHalas on May 11, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean to tell me the Chicago media packed for San Jose

too? Those mother fuckers. So disrespectful. I can NOT believe this.

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by Section 312 on May 11, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

See?! Now you’re coming ar…..oh, I get it.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on May 11, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch. Both Knees? The Flyers better hope a Leighton can save them, Boucher was doing a great job in the first round as well as the 2nd

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 11, 2010 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah, that sucks for the Flyers. Boucher was quietly one of the better stories of the playoffs lost in all the Halakamania (runnin’ wild…)

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leighton was gold for Philly since coming over from the Canes. I ruled them out because they lost him and had to resort to Boucher. Ha has been surprisingly great though. Nice comeback story too.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell yeah, no problem with Leighton. He was gold indeed!

by Sean Zandberg on May 11, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap Waach. Never heard of arch enemy before. Where they from?

That’s quite the little ball o’ hate there. Someone leave the toilet seat up?

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 8:14 AM PDT reply actions  

they’re from Sweden (of course) and vokills come from Angela Gossow from Germany. Members of Carcass, The Haunted and At The Gates make up the band.

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

in case you haven't seen this yet

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/nhlpa-files-grievance-against-tampa-bay-lightning.php

What a way to make an impression as a new owner. This is brutal…

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by Kent Basky on May 11, 2010 8:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Just sad. So. Very. Weak.

The pettiness displayed sometimes astounds me.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow…

I’m sort of torn between stunned, and ’that’s what happens when you’re replacing the entire management’.

by rsm on May 11, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get why people are blaming Vinik

It’s not like he’s the one directly making this decision, and I don’t see how he would have let this happen. He seems like a pretty committed owner and is very involved in making things better for the players. He’s already met with a few of them to see what changes they would like to see in place in the organization, and they are all really happy with him by all accounts. I think this has more to do with past management and Vinik not being able to change things to his liking soon enough.

by sunshine and lollipops on May 11, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ping Pong. Yes a dangerous sport that is :)

by Sean Zandberg on May 11, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beer Pong.

Now that’s a dangerous sport.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on May 11, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

interesting.
i’ll add it to the squid.

by missy on May 11, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a stats man (love all the stats in American sports). I have a question: Does anyone get given a shutout from the Flyers game? Leighton because he finished it/made more saves? Boucher gets the win, maybe he gets it too?

Enlighten me :)

by andrew21nz on May 11, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Boucher gets credit for the win, nobody gets a shutout since it has to be a complete game shutout to count.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on May 11, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The team gets credited with a shutout. The individual goalies don’t.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on May 11, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

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