A Tip O' The Hat to Andrew Joseph Ernest Raycroft
It's been a rough couple of days around VAN land, but today we'll change it up by giving a shout out to what was once the unlikeliest person to deserve one.
Last night we watched what is probably the final Vancouver Canucks start for Andrew Raycroft and, similar to Trevor Linden's last game, it was an eye sore.
But let's ignore all that and politely give a civilized round of golf clapping (does that phrase take on new meaning with what Tiger Woods did? Nevermind...) for Razor, someone who was dragged over the coals from the moment he put pen to paper to become a Canuck but proved his worth to the team when he was needed - a quality that a couple other Canucks around him are sorely lacking.
Let's rewind to last summer. Many assumed then exactly where we are right now: Cory Schneider would take the next step in his development, shed his AHL training wheels and become a permanent fixture in the NHL as a back-up for Luongo. So naturally some heads had to be scratched when word came down that Raycroft inked a one year deal for essentially nothing.
If you thought we had problems with it, Razor's previous fan bases were having a ball and they couldn't be blamed either. His stats since leaving Boston were abysmal. You pretty much had to assume Gillis either lost his mind or Raycroft was so bad that he could pass through waivers without anyone noticing or caring.
Scraping some thoughts from around the interwebs I posted, at the time, what I thought would happen:
Maybe Raycroft will eek out a win here and there. Maybe he'll steal one in the shootout (assuming the shooter doesn't go gloveside). Maybe, just maybe, he'll simply be adequate.
But let's not kid ourselves with anything else. This isn't a change of scenery move. He's not going to suddenly regain Calder-type status. Certainly not on a team built from the net out and not with one that, as of now, will be entering camp with a weakened defensive core. Only in the cap era would we as fans be asked to accept a player who is this statistically bad, with this much baggage, who has fallen this far from his career highs, simply because no one else wants him.
So what did happen? Son of bitch, first he beat out Schneider for the back-up gig. From there he would go to eek out nine wins in 14 starts, including "stealing" two in the shootout (thank you for not going gloveside Los Angeles & Anaheim). The icing on the cake may have be cathartic victories over the Avs and Leafs (the latter of which was the only time he spelled Luongo and got the win). He also stepped up when Luongo either fell to injury and just plain fell. He even earned himself a ballad.
Assuming he doesn't start tomorrow against Calgary, here's a quick look at how Raycroft's regular season stacks up against all Vancouver back-ups since the lockout:
His numbers are comparable to Sanford's last year, but he still earned two more wins with a better GAA and slightly better save percentage, which is saying something since Sanford was playing a healthy Mitchell and Mattias Ohlund (though not Bieksa who was out with an injury). So clearly it's not the most solid bunch, but Raycroft currently sits as the best post-lockout goalie Vancouver has had.
Also - for what it's worth - Raycroft earned more wins this season than his peer back ups on playoff-bound Detroit (Osgood - 7), Phoenix (LaBarbera - 8), San Jose (Greiss - 7), Los Angeles (Ersberg - 3) and Colorado (Budaj - 5).
I don't know if Raycroft will ever be a starter in the NHL again; he's still prone to meltdowns here and there and - in respect to last night - should have slammed that five hole shut on the Malhotra goal, but maybe that's splitting hairs. Being the back-up goalie isn't easy; all that training, day in and night out, staying mentally and physically prepared for that moment the team needs you or the "what if" factor that could happen a million times over in a game. Back-up's probably end up doing more work than starters, much of it out of public view and thankless. And then there's Raycroft, once on top of the hockey world, then laughed out of hockey's biggest market and somehow ended up staring at Vancouver's goalie graveyard.
I was wrong: you can say he was good, decent or just less sucky than he had been, but he wasn't merely adequate. He did his job and then some. Sure the bar was low to begin with, but he pulled his career out of the nose dive and helped the Canucks in the process. If Luongo has to be pulled for whatever reason during the first round, I'm ok with Raycroft out there. Just the fact I saw myself type that out is remarkable.
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i'll give him a tip of the hat as well

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It’s probably because he knew he wasn’t under pressure. He knows he doesn’t have any competition (i.e. Toskalol, Budaj, if you can consider the former “competition” by all means) as it was not like Raycroft was going to beat out Luongo for the starting job. With Toronto, everyone wanted him to do good in Toronto (and to a lesser extent, Colorado). Raycroft deserves abit of respect for actually doing a good job, albeit even if he was a backup
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 9, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
Right, Schneider was the only real competition.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Old Time Trivia
In looking quickly through the Canucks goalies on the books, here’s a fun question (no cheating) →
I have appeared in one Canuck game in my career, playing 20 minutes and surrendering two goals on eight shots for a 6.00 GAA. I never played for Vancouver again, making me statistically the worst goalie in franchise history. After I retired I would briefly be a goaltending coach for Toronto in 2006-07 where I worked with one Andrew Raycroft, the same year he surrendered 205 goals.
Who am I?
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Sean Burke?
And yes, a hat tip and glove tap to Andrew Raycroft as well.
Most wins for a back up on that list is awesome. As is his other stats.
I like how he seems to have a more mature like vibe to the job.
It looks to me that his attitude and demeanor might be better suited as a back up. His time in Toronto showed how a goalie can wilt under pressure.
But here, he has a good team, comes in every 7-8 games or so, and has less pressure.
I thought he saved our bacon on the 14 game roadie too. It seems the teammates like him a lot too. All in all, a great signing, considering the Leafs are paying him more this year than the Canucks.
Reporters asked Sedin how he could possibly have accomplished the feat.
"Look guys, I don’t know how to say this any other way, I’m really fucking fast. I’m like a greased up Pavel Bure that craps lightning," he said.
Sean Burke played in around 15-20 games for VAN.
It’s a tough one actually, people may as well cheat.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Maxime Oullett?
Martin Brochu?
Dirk Diggler?
Reporters asked Sedin how he could possibly have accomplished the feat.
"Look guys, I don’t know how to say this any other way, I’m really fucking fast. I’m like a greased up Pavel Bure that craps lightning," he said.
Oooh, Brochu, good guess. Maybe you got it.
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok I went ahead and cheated on hockeydb.com and I never heard of the guy. How the hell did you come up with this, Yankee? Yeesh.
by Beantown Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a long train ride at one point last summer and i spent like three hours yanking out random stats from the canucks statistical guide.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Give us the year?
I could use a hint. I am running through the ridiculous list of goalies this team has had over the years: Potvin, Burke, Auld, Irbe, Essensa, Skudra, Saborin, Sanford, Noronen, etc. But pretty sure they all played more than 20 minutes!
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The no. 1 goalie that year was Troy Gamble. Although he was more of a co-no.1.
by Beantown Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow, that far back eh? I’m racking my brain to think of the hockey cards of Canucks goalies I had back then. I was like 6 or 7 when we had Troy Gamble, so I don’t know if I’ll be able to think of it.
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I looked it up like Beantown…you’ll never get it.
Even if I tell you it isn’t Murray Bannerman.
Reporters asked Sedin how he could possibly have accomplished the feat.
"Look guys, I don’t know how to say this any other way, I’m really fucking fast. I’m like a greased up Pavel Bure that craps lightning," he said.
Did he at least have a substantial career outside the Canucks? Or was he a one-and-done player? If the former, what other teams did he play for?
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
1990-91
And no he was LITERALLY one and done.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t think I have a chance without cheating then!
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
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You will literally go.
Who in the fuck is that?
Reporters asked Sedin how he could possibly have accomplished the feat.
"Look guys, I don’t know how to say this any other way, I’m really fucking fast. I’m like a greased up Pavel Bure that craps lightning," he said.
Yeah
Who in the fuck IS that?
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If it’s killing you, click here for the answer.
I’ll see if anyone else cares to wager a guess.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I caved and looked it up already. Not a huge surprise that a guy with a 5.00 GAA in a NCAA season would end up with a 6.00 in his NHL career!
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a nice connection back to the post topic though.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely. And I liked the obscure trivia question. Keep ’em coming in the future!
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
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So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Apr 9, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Todd Fanning or John Fletcher?
I have the 87-88 Canucks Yearbook, and our two goalies “in the system” were Gamble/Mclean. But Fanning/Fletcher (both of whom I’ve never heard of) were two of our picks in the 1987 draft! 7th and 10th Round, respectively.
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Well...
Kirk McLean did play 41 games too!
Reporters asked Sedin how he could possibly have accomplished the feat.
"Look guys, I don’t know how to say this any other way, I’m really fucking fast. I’m like a greased up Pavel Bure that craps lightning," he said.
Rayzoooooooooooooooor
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 9, 2010 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
Random trivia - high career GAAs
Okay, this is an offshoot from Yankee’s trivia question about a guy with a 6.00 career GAA with the Canucks. My brother and I once went through Total Hockey to find out the worst goalie stats of all time. We started noticing players from the 1920s and 30s who had ridiculously high GAAs while only playing a few games. What we eventually figured out is that goalies used to serve their penalties, meaning a d-man had to tend net for the powerplay. Not surprisingly, a few of these guys got scored on. A d-man who played 1 minute of goal and gave up 1 goal ended up with a career GAA of 60.00.
The worst we found was a poor guy who had a career GAA of 120.00 – meaning he gave up 2 goals in 1 minute! I believe that is officially the worst GAA in the history of the NHL.
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You mean to tell me that my whole career of hockey fandom I was misreading the GAA stat? I always thought it was goals against average per game not per hour. I kinda feel like I should hand in my citizenship for not knowing that…
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It’s kind of both – GAA is per 60 minutes, which is taken to represent a “game.” So things like getting yanked midway through a game, spending time at the bench for delayed penalties/extra man late in the game, and going to OT all can skew the stat from being a nice round number.
So if a goalie lets in 3 goals in a period and gets pulled, his GAA for the game is 9.00. However if the next game he plays 40 minutes of shutout hockey in relief of the starter, his total GAA will drop to 3.00 (3 goals over 60 minutes).
That make sense? I am starting to confuse myself!
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by nucksandpucks on Apr 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
In regards to first round match ups..
Look at this article and what Burrows says about Detroit.
My favourite:
but as far as Detroit, the only thing I dislike is having to fly there and having to stay there, to have to spend a couple of days in that city."
Well said Burr.
And in the words of the great Dr. Gregory House:
I dont have to go to Detroit to know it stinks.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Poor Kesler, wonder what he’d have to say on that matter.
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by thelastjohnny on Apr 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't like Det, unless Im mistaken.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Money with the House quote.
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by eightyseven on Apr 9, 2010 2:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks eightyseven
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 9, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
If Lou falters in the playoffs and the Canucks start Rayzor and WIN, I would be fine with starting him again and again. There is a terrific storyline just waiting to happen there. Unfortunately there’s a rich egotistical goalie standing in the way of that happening.
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckoff
by Beantown Canuck on Apr 9, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s true. And you know it. If Lou doesn’t shake whatever’s bugging him, play the rayzor.
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 9, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
If Lou cannot shake his funk, and it becomes very apparent, put in Rayzor and see what happens. Is that so deadly? Is that so mean?
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 10, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Two middle names, what a man.
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by eightyseven on Apr 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I was gonna hazard a guess that he’s been the best back-up since the lockout, number-wise. Nice work on gathering the stats.
By all accounts he was also a good dude and a very good teammate. I’d gladly welcome him back next year if he somehow decides to return.
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It’s funny I was really bummed when LaBarbera left cuz I thought he was the shit as far as backups went regarding attitude. Thought he was a pretty good goalie too. And when they brought in rayzor i was like “WTF MG…LaB was awesome, and u bring in this sieve?” But it’s turned out Rayzor’s even been a step up from LaBarbera. Maybe I liked Jason LaB more for his death magnetic helmet than anything tho…
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I think given more minutes LaB would’ve put up better numbers than he did with the Canucks. His numbers this year as a Coyote are great and significantly better than Rayzor’s while being similar in minutes, albeit on a more defensive team.
But for $500k I’ll take Rayzor’s year any time.
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