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Sunday Morning Coffee- Give your head a shake...

There were many that spoke out, railing against the coach and the management.  "Are they crazy?  Andrew Alberts over Shane O'Brien?".  They thought it wasn't a big deal.  They thought it was an over reaction.  And some thought they shouldn't have sat him no matter what.  Yet with word coming out now that the situation with O'Brien was more about his weight gain and apparently lack of desire to fulfill even his most basic of roles with the team, I ask those of you who do things like start web sites in support of him to kindly give your head a shake.  This is the kind of thing that can push a team over the edge, and they're certainly showing signs of it.  More after the jump...

Star-divide

When you look at the ordeals this team has had to endure this season: injuries to top players, Auger-gate, that colossal road trip, Pavol Demitra's health and personal issues and Luongo's struggles, that's enough to crush a lot of teams.  But to have a disruptive force in the room that pretty clearly doesn't give a damn about the team or his team mates and their goal, this close to playoff time can be disastrous for even the most solid of teams.

They don't need the distractions.  And they certainly don't need the feeling that comes from knowing you can't rely on one of your team mates.  And that is exactly the situation Shane O'Brien has put them in.  Reports are he is working his ass off, trying to shed the excess pounds and shame he feels.  He better feel shame.  Am I coming across as harsh?  Too damn bad.  Millions of dollars invested, blood sweat and tears.  This team, the city and it's loyal fans have suffered enough.  There is no room for someone whose priorities are not in the right place.

Shane O'Brien is supposed to be not just doing his clearly defined role to help the Canucks advance in the playoffs.  He is also supposed to be showing Canucks management that he wishes to remain a Canuck beyond this season, as his contract expires this summer.  He has far from done that, and I think it's safe to say it's been to the detriment of the team.  So don't you dare feel sorry for Shane O'Brien.  If you're a fan of this team, he has let you down.  Apology?  Sure, but if the management feels he is ready and deserving, he needs to show he's sorry on the ice.  If not, it's gonna be a (hopefully) long and boring playoff run for him in the pressbox.

The Canucks are back home after a split on the road, and playing in front of their 300th consecutive sellout crowd.  They best not be complacent however, as the freshly eliminated Minnesota Wild will be eager to play spoiler tonight at GM Place.  Roberto Luongo will be the focus tonight, as he looks to silence the critics yet again after that disastrous night in Los Angeles.  Luongo's been so good in bounceback games however, and with the confidence built up after a strong game against the Ducks, including a hat trick from rookie Micheal Grabner, the Canucks should be ready to roll.

Another thing to watch is Henrik Sedin, and just how much he can expand his lead on Alex Ovechkin tonight.  Ovechkin was held pointless in the 3-2 win yesterday over the Blue Jackets.  After the game, president of the Ryan Kesler fan club and Jackets' winger RJ Umberger made a ton of new fans in DC with his comments:

"I don't think any team in the West would be overmatched by them," Umberger said. "They play the wrong way. They want to be moving all the time. They float around in their zone, looking for breakaways and odd-man rushes.

"A good defensive team is going to beat them (in the playoffs). If you eliminate your turnovers and keep them off the power play, they're going to get frustrated because they're in their zone a lot."  And of course, you know the Capitals just laughed and brushed it off because they never, ever, NEVER complain to the media about anything.

Look... fuck breakfast.  Just give me the chocolate.

A small but very sweet basketful of games today.  The early game on NBC/TSN has the Detroit Red Wings in the city of brotherly love to face the Flyers.  Philadelphia will be looking to shore up their chances at a post season slot, while the Wings can move into a tie for 5th with Nashville, and the Wings will still have a game in hand on the Preds, thus giving them the tie breaker.  A Coyotes/Red Wings first rounder?   Awesome, right?  Just think of how many kickass shootouts there will... oh right.  Nevermind.

Calgary and Colorado get a chance to determine their own fate today, the Flames get Chicago, and the Avs faceoff against the Sharks.  As a Canucks fan, it's high comedy seeing the hoops these two teams have to jump through, knowing one of them won't make it.  That being said, go Avs.  I hate the Flames.

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I heard that SOB feels comfortable playing at 230 but the coaches want him to be at 220. Wouldn’t it be better for him to play where he’s comfortable? It’s not like SOB has been playing terrible. He’s actually been playing pretty well. Why mess with that? He could be just like Wellwood. Wellwood lost all that weight in the offseason and came back terrible. He put the pounds back on he starts to produce. I think this is more of an AV issue. For whatever reason he just hates certain guys.

by marcness52 on Apr 4, 2010 8:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Because

with this team it’s not about performance, it’s about pet theories.

I’m far from defending SOB, but am I the only one who’s noticed that the further we go along with this management group the more players suddenly become “problems” that have never shown any sign of it before? I mean so far this year a well-respected 40 y/o dman, SC winner etc gets called a “prima donna” etc for seemingly the first time in his career (playing great for the Yotes btw) and a 19 y/o rookie with universal acclaim as a team-first, anything to win guy is accused publicly of faking injury.

And now SOB’s the latest “problem child”, again, not saying he isn’t, but it seems to me we’ve had way more than our share of supposed “headcases” (some of them highly dubious) lately and it wouldn’t surprise me that Gillis’ “I know better” attitude on everything that filters down to AV has a lot to do with it.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Apr 4, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard there were issues with SOB in Tampa, he and Tortorella clashed often apparently… so take that for what it’s worth

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by Kent Basky on Apr 4, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is there anyone who doesn’t clash with tortorella? I mean besides sloppy seconds?

I’ve always thought that AV actually has a soft spot for SOB. One thing i’ve always respected about AV; he knows how to get the most out of each individual. He knows who on the team responds best to a kick in the ass and a calling-out (SOB, Willie Mitchell) and who responds best to soft talk, even if a benching is involved (Kyle Wellwood). It’s no accident that he calls out certain players and makes excuses for others in his interviews…he knows who’s going to respond best to what.

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by GAHHHHH! on Apr 4, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s possible that these types of problems were never looked at or dealt with by previous management. We’ll never really know, of course. I’ve heard a lot of people say that past Canucks teams have had too much of a “country club” vibe and current management is trying to change that I guess. It’s evident that the team leaders are “with it” as they’ve all signed extension in the last year to stay there (Sedins, Lu, Kesler, Burrows, Edler).

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s clear that the dietary restrictions placed upon Wellwood affected his game negatively earlier in the season. It’s to mgt’s credit that they saw their error and were ok with his adjustment in diet and excersize. May have taught MG and AV a valuable lesson. They’re wading into new territory themselves. OB has already stated that he plays better at a slightly higher weight than what they prescribed and I believe Bernier has said the same. Didn’t it seem that when Bernier played this season he seemed too light? Did to me.

by Bobby Canuck on Apr 4, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. I think Gillis and Coach V go overboard analyzing every aspect of the players’ lives. Weight. Sleep. Diet. They aren’t hamsters in a lab. Playing 82 games is tough enough without constant scrutiny of the miniscule.

by Ice Cubes on Apr 4, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, maybe too much micro-managing. But it is a big money business in the bigger picture. If players aren’t on board they can go play in Florida or wherever, where no one cares.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other teams do the same with their young wayward players as well.

Mike Babcock is reputed to be a huge control freak.

Whatever. Its OK for him because of some success, but not for AV?

Fiddlesticks. You are 100% right. They are playing in a multimillion dollar business, and the expectations are high.

We can trade you to Columbus…if that works better for you. Myself, I love that the team doesn’t have that come see…come sa…attitude. Where the players are coddled to the Nth degree.

We want a Cup here. These are the work conditions. Play the right way, and you will have success.

"I’m not asking for first-line money or top six money," Burrows said. "I don’t think it changes anything. I still consider myself a checker. That’s what I think I am first. That’s how I want to be paid. "If I can generate offence once in a while, I think it’s a plus for the team." Alex Burrows...Mar/09

by vancitydan on Apr 4, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

come see come ca

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

sa.

I couldn’t even retype your hilarious misspelling (which was probably intentional, but still funny.)

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

But

is it his play, or is it “other things”? Seems to me he’s played his best hockey as a Nuck recently?

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Apr 4, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that they felt SOB had allowed himself to lose sight of his conditioning during the Oly break and were reacting to his lack of discipline, unbecoming of a pro athlete.

by Bobby Canuck on Apr 4, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody

should be scrutinizing Gillis’ every move, maybe then he wouldn’t make so many boneheaded ones.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Apr 4, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

the difference is, wellwood’s weight doesn’t hamper him conditioning wise, where it does with SOB and his play as of late is a testament to that. He just doesn’t give a rats ass, and that’s the big issue here. It’s a team issue, is he focused and committed as he should be?

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by Kent Basky on Apr 4, 2010 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I still don’t know what to make of this situation. What I do know, and what appears to be the consensus, is that SOB has consistently played better than Alberts. So they need to stop comparing dick sizes and get this shit settled. Then SOB can get back in the game, regardless of who is blame-worthy.

by Beantown Canuck on Apr 4, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Apologies for the language, eightyseven and missy. And all the other fair maidens out there.

by Beantown Canuck on Apr 4, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

missy swears more than all of us combined, haha.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The girls are mysteriously late today. A night out at the Roxy?

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

…where they encountered a certain overweight hockey player.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wellwood?

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gump Worsley’s reanimated corpse?

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re talking about the Roxy, not some Chinese takeout joint. :P

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Krutov.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

better known as Crouton

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

ohai gaiz!

You’re creepy, Sean. A little too Big Brother for me XD

"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"

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by eightyseven on Apr 4, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Sean, hook up some lotto numbers.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha

a little eerie, but..

ha

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I saw her comment in the other thread right before I said the above. No creepiness at all. Just educated guessing

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must be nice

Wish I was educated.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I shoulda left you hanging.

You’re welcome, haha.

"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"

- Dallas Stars Forum

by eightyseven on Apr 4, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

good timing, sean.

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by missy on Apr 4, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, went home for the long Easter weekend, parents won’t let me sit on the computer for extensive time like i usually do.

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by missy on Apr 4, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good

for them… and you…

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Apr 4, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

missy swears more than all of us combined, haha.

yeah, i can see your fucking reasoning there…. :P

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Press release: This year's official Battle of Alberta will still be held as planned on April 14th at the River Bend Golf Course in Red Deer.
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by missy on Apr 4, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahhh

There’s the little trucker girl.

Happy Fucking Easter!

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flyers up 4-2 on the Wings going into the third.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Make it 4-3. 15 minutes left.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Flyers held on for the win.

Flames / Hawks starting now. Great hockey day.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disgusting

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100331/bc_stolen_jerseys_100331/20100331?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

Vancouver once again showing why its the Crime Capital of Canada. First Clifford Olson, then Robert Pickton, and now this scumbag who steals chairty jerseys. Yikes.

by Rod Blogojevich on Apr 4, 2010 11:36 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Some old news

They found some (if not all?) of the stolen items, though they wouldn’t say what they got. Someone else donated a bunch of jerseys before they recovered them, too.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, according to statscan, in 2008 (most recent numbers I’ve found) crime severity was highest in Regina, followed by Abbotsford–Mission, Saskatoon, Kelowna, Winnipeg, Edmonton and then Vancouver. So we’re shitty, but not the ‘capital’. Press-worthy crimes happen nationwide, Mr. Blogojevich.

by Beantown Canuck on Apr 4, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Abbotsford-Mission is considered to be part of the Greater Vancouver area………

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by missy on Apr 4, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

which is a joke. it’s a whole ’nother world out there in the bible belt. nothing past the port mann bridge should count as vancouver.

by bitterguy on Apr 4, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I believe it’s part of the lower mainland, but not part of Metro Vancouver. And this was Statistics Canada’s definitions, so you go argue with them that they don’t know about Canada, eh?

by Beantown Canuck on Apr 4, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Abbotsford is the current murder capital of Canada. Home of the heat which is affiliated with a certain Calgary team….coincidence?

by marcness52 on Apr 4, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how you lump stolen jerseys in with mass murderers.

Interesting set of priorities you have.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really, do you expect any better from a Flames fan? He’s just pissy and whiney cuz he knows his team is warming up for golf season.

"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows

by GAHHHHH! on Apr 4, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it too soon to bash the Leafs for another failed season? I hope their pick turns into the number 1 for Boston. That would be awesome.

by marcness52 on Apr 4, 2010 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Even if they only get #2, they can’t go wrong with Seguin or Hall. Either way I smile. :)

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im more keen to bashing the Flames..

Although it appears that they are tentatively in the process of fighting their way into the post-season.

But we’ll see just how bad they fail, Sean! :D

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 4, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, Fuck SOB.

He’s not getting paid millions to NOT have his shit together.
Say what you will about “Well, what if YOU were late for work…” and whatnot, but if I was getting paid millions of dollars to play hockey, I would make DAMN SURE that my weight was right and that I got to practice on time, even if I was 26 year old millionaire athlete. Look at younger and better paid athletes around the league, they show up on time and make sure their fitness is at the level it should be. Just shows lack of mental toughness and commitment, which is really disappointing considering how much everyone else is working their asses off (Burrows, Dank, Hank, Son of Sam, Grabs, Kes, Raymond, Wellfed (sometimes), even Romer). He needs to get his ass in gear for the playoffs, because shit like this won’t fly. I will admit that I hated SOB last season because of all his needless and incessant penalties, but this year he was growing on me and then he pulls something like this?

Bollocks. Wake up, Shane, please. For your sake and for the team’s sake.

Plus, the Roxy? Really Shane? Its not even that great.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 4, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

What CC said.

I thought the petition was very funny, so I signed it. But after Botch’s article came out, it looks a little more serious than just missing a practice.

And Welly’s carrying 4 extra pounds well is nothing like SOB coming back from the Oly break with an extra 15-20 lbs.

He should be feeling shame. I hope he gets back in, because we need him, but the big middle finger to his teammates that he gave by coming back like that had to be addressed. Everyone else is working so hard…where are you Shane.

Get your shit together…and play hard. We need you. In a city like Vancouver…all will be forgotten if you do that.

"I’m not asking for first-line money or top six money," Burrows said. "I don’t think it changes anything. I still consider myself a checker. That’s what I think I am first. That’s how I want to be paid. "If I can generate offence once in a while, I think it’s a plus for the team." Alex Burrows...Mar/09

by vancitydan on Apr 4, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet

at the same time, by all accounts (not to mention statistically) he has been playing his best hockey recently, so does the weight matter that much considering that?

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Apr 4, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

From a management perspective, I wonder how much damage SOB did to relations when he came out swinging in front of the media after Gillis met with every player individually in January 2009(?)

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh for sure

SOB pulled a no-no there, although he may well have been telling the truth.

But really I’m getting the feeling that Gillis has control issues.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Apr 4, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bah, I think you’re all over-reading this. SOB is a kid, an obviously not so smart one, and obviously likes to have fun. Plus he makes a million and a half a year. Add those things up, you get someone who’s liable to be a bit of a prima donna occasionally, probably drinks too much, and very possibly thinks he’s king shit of turd island, when in reality he’s just fart the messenger boy. All these things most likely cause a bit of friction in the room, and he probably needed a bit of a slapping down. Personally, I’d like to see him fix his shit, whatever that shit is, and stay on the team. If there’s some kind of friction between him and management (which I’m not sure I actually believe there is, beyond straight performance and motivation questions), then it will turn out how it turns out. To instantly blame MG for everything here is not only ridiculous, it’s irresponsible. Likewise blowing it out of proportion and making it into some great conspiracy is also dumb. Sometimes certain pieces just plain don’t fit into a puzzle…SOB could possibly be traded cuz he’s causing grief to a place like Pittsburgh and become their willie mitchell…or he could fade into obscurity.

I’m just not a fan of instantly jumping to conclusions about any of this and making assumptions as to the goings on. As I’ve said before, we just plain are not privy to what goes on behind closed doors with the team or the management.

"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows

by GAHHHHH! on Apr 4, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he was

such a problem in the room he should have been dealt at the deadline, and considering this management’s other problems with players, the contradictory public statements made by management and SOB re the fighting, and Gillis’ pet theories on performance enhancement I don’t think it’s such a stretch. I mean somehow this team has managed to have 3 “prima donnas” that we know of so far this season… seems like a lot of puzzle pieces to me.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Apr 4, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

You utterly missed my point. Yes, I suggested that he could be a small problem in the room, but a small amount of friction… not a phaneuf or bure sized problem. But that wasn’t even my point. My point was all this conjecture is just that…conjecture. As for my statements about him possibly being a prima donna and about him being a puzzle piece that doesn’t fit, they were not really directly related. Alot of people in any profession at the level these guys are are prima donna’s…but some of them are such in a way that meshes well with others, and some aren’t. And let me add, that despite all of what I just said, I have no clue what the real issue is, that’s just one possible guess I had. I have others too. Maybe he shagged Av’s wife/daughter/aunt/second cuz twice removed. Maybe he ate Daniel’s yogurt without asking. Who knows.

"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows

by GAHHHHH! on Apr 4, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he ate Daniel’s yogurt without asking

haha!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

well said

The place is a hole and I give props to such an accurate description.

rec’d

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for quoting me.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 4, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I keep hearing that SOB was sucky on the ice lately. I don’t agree, and these numbers prove it, more or less.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it was more than numbers, and as we all know stats can lie… it was all about the attitude. And stop playing devil’s advocate dammit. That’s what we have Section for :p

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by Kent Basky on Apr 4, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I’m sure his attitude was shitty or whatevs…but his play wasn’t.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t bag on a guy if he was playing well. So I am only defending him in that sense.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

dammit… stop making sense!

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by Kent Basky on Apr 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gillis seems to be determined to only pick up character players with a team-first attitude.

If SOB’s attitude has been crap lately, it explains a lot.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed
Gillis seems to be determined to only pick up character players who drink the kool-aid.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh God, Johnny

Trying to bring the fire and brimstone are ya?

That’s just dirty pool ;)

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well isn’t that what you want as a manager?

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s exactly what I want in a manager and it was always what I loved from a teammate.

I was just refering to Johnny’s evil bait-laying ways.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think his question was directed at me. I’m just trying to decide how best to reply. I’ve never had a problem with people getting ready their own way as long as there’s respect between teammates and they all are playing at their best. If management is nitpicking like Yoata is saying, well maybe management has to try to be less controlling of the players’ lives.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

What kool-aid?

The kool-aid of awesomeness and winning?
If so, get me a pitchers-worth.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 4, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd.

SO MANY VITAMINS IN THAT SHIT.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 4, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should hope our management group can think of better ways to let a player know that a bad attitude is not acceptable (diminished but not abolished ice time, perhaps?) than to overwork other defensemen or jeopardize Luongo’s health (with people crashing the net) or already fragile mental state. I’ll make no excuses for the way Lu is playing, but the stats don’t lie when they say Shane has been an important part of our defense this year. Hopefully AV & Co. get just how fucked we’ll be with a sulking O’Brien and… well, Alberts in the playoffs.

by ShiftySC on Apr 4, 2010 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Save us Willie! Willie? Willie?

Willie! Stop chewing on that toy!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure if he is getting in tonight…but SOB was with the team today, and apologized to his team.

I put up the clip in a Fanshot…from the Sun’s blogger

"I’m not asking for first-line money or top six money," Burrows said. "I don’t think it changes anything. I still consider myself a checker. That’s what I think I am first. That’s how I want to be paid. "If I can generate offence once in a while, I think it’s a plus for the team." Alex Burrows...Mar/09

by vancitydan on Apr 4, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

you didn’t read my game preview post update from a few hours ago did ya?

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too Hard On OB

I heard Tom Larscheid on the Team 1040. He said OB is happier at a few pounds heavier, not so lean. Larschied’s point was – who cares if he eats donuts for breakfast? He is playing better than Alberts. OB should have been disciplined for the Roxie party -late for practice mistake, but a few pounds? Chill out Coach V

by Ice Cubes on Apr 4, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the problem is that it was more than “a few pounds”, closer to 15-20 lbs was reported.

That is ridiculous during the season. And it’s very likely from booze and subsequently junk food.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s why beer sucks!
Drink rum!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rum has just as many carbs in it, coulda just as easily been that.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gatorade and all starchy foods have carbs/sugar too and players drink/eat a ton of them everyday.

It’s the alcohol content that is the real problem. Excessive alcohol screws with your metabolism and forces your body to store more fat. Also, it screws with your sleep patterns, energy levels, etc.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was in response to Sean’s rum industry lobbying. Alcohol is just as bad for an athlete as tobacco (can be).

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

(can be). Yeah, ask Guy Lafleur. Didn’t seem to bother him.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love the old school shots where guys were having a smoke after the game. Seems so strange.

Sure there are still a few. Fleury is the last one who comes to mind.

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

M-A or Theo? Zubov is a smoker, I think.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Apr 4, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Theo

Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.

by kesrows on Apr 4, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, you have to drink a hell of a lot more beers to get pissed than you do rum. It’s all about consumption rate and volume.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant, the carbs to alcohol ratio are the same, so your argument doesn’t stand up.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

So if I drink 7 beers to get the same drunk as 1 mickey of spiced rum I’ll gain the same amount of weight? I haven’t noticed that personally.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where do I get my information from? I swear I’ve read that a few times before, but upon actual research it seems rum has about half the calorie content of beer. And the carbohydrates part is totally wrong.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew my physical appearance wasn’t lying :)

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then how much coke do I drink with my rum? That is the other question. I have switched to caffeine-free coke to avoid the jitters the next day. Apparently there are zero calories in that as well. So the bottle says

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally I don’t analyze it too much. Whatever gives me a buzz….

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you should just chase it with water, that way you can avoid any of those questions.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah but who’s that responsible when they are drunk? Not me!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 4, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that’s why I drink beer and eat late-night poutine.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Apr 4, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

screw the rum, gimme some vodka!

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by missy on Apr 5, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

you’re so cool. vodka is my 2nd choice

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 5, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd, awesome.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 5, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol rec’d for making a connection of madd hilariosity.

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by GAHHHHH! on Apr 4, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

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