Rampant Conjectures FTW: Predictions For Vancouver/Chicago
Zero hour approaches once again. Though there is still plenty of time to take your whole paycheck and waste it on booze and send your kids/wife/girlfriend/boyfriend/mistress/escort/midget out of town for the evening and prepare for a Saturday of NHL playoff lunacy.
A familiar enemy stands in the way of the conference finals, a feat Vancouver hasn't accomplished in (sigh) 16 years. Can they make the leap? We embrace our inner Nostradamus and take a crack at the crystal ball after the jump.
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Throughout history there are classic tales of revenge: Edmond Dantes in The Count of Monte Cristo. Or perhaps William Shakespeare's Othello? Or the inspiring tale of good triumphing over evil that was Revenge Of The Nerds? The need for revenge when one feels as though they were wronged is a fairly common human emotion. Already some have called the Canucks cocky for suggesting they wanted another shot at the Hawks, but that must be another one of those things that are only acceptable unless the Canucks do it. It will be interesting to see who writes the first article: Derek Zona, Damian Cox or Tony Gallagher. Of course they want another shot at them. We all would. And if they were in our shoes, they would too.
Sometimes, like with the aforementioned Mr. Dantes you must wait for what seems like an eternity for your chance at revenge. We get it now. It's interesting, both teams stumbled a bit, but in different ways. The Canucks had an early series meltdown on the PK, but managed to fix the issues and dominated Los Angeles 5 on 5. Chicago? Well it was a pretty even series until game 5 when Nashville pretty much gave up in the last minute of a game they were winning. Another bounce in overtime to a guy who should have been kicked out of the game and the series is tied. Did anyone think after that mental boot to the head Nashville could come back and force a game 7? Anyways, despite what some will tell you, these are two fairly evenly matched teams, the Canucks are scoring a lot more right now, and managed to get by again on banged up defense.
Can Roberto Luongo bounce back from the heartbreak of last year? Absolutely. At the start of this series I came out and said the way the team was playing I had doubts they could go all the way. With their recovery in the LA series, they showed me that the fight is still in them, and revenge is on their minds. This is going to be a battle for the ages. Hmm, sorry for the hyperbole. It will definitely be a hell of a series, and when the smoke clears at the end of game 7, the Vancouver Canucks shall be standing victorious.
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Nucks & Pucks
Okay, if you read my Round 1 predictions you know the deal. Ill give you five predictions, each of which is ranked on a scale of 1-10 Rick Tocchets based on its likelihood of transpiring. Think of this as an alternative to the Vegas lines and oddsone Rick Tocchet means it would be a Buster Douglas-esque long shot, 10 Tocchets means you can bet your life-savings on it.* Okay, here we go!
The Sedins Twins outscore Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews
Rating: 8 Tocchets out of 10
I like the Twinkies over the Mullet and the Pig. I am expecting big things from Hank and Dank this series.
Two words: LINE BRAWL!
Rating: 2 Tocchets out of 10.
Sadly, as I noted in my Round 1 predictions, fisticuffs are rare in the playoffs. Thank goodness that didn't stop Rich Clune from poking the bear and Rick Rypien from obliging him. However, a repeat of last season's Slapshot moment is unlikely.
A Canucks player rips out Patrick Kanes mouthguard and throws it to the ice
Rating: 4 Tocchets out of 10
Heres hoping Kevin Bieksa, Rypien, or some other ornery Canuck channels their inner Johan Franzen. Seriously, this would make my day.
The Canucks use at least eight defensemen in the series
Rating: 7 Tocchets out of 10
Aaron Rome and Nolan Baumgartner both drew into the top-6 against the Kings. Rome is likely good to go, though whether he will replace the (slightly) improved Andew Alberts remains to be seen. My bet is that we see Rome, Alberts and one of Baumgartner or Lawrence Nycholat against the Hawks. Fingers crossed (and wood knocked, rabbit-foot rubbed, 4-leaf clover picked, etc.) that none of them starts in place of Sami Salo. Seriously, I'm not jinxing this. And now I'm off to throw horseshoes at leprechauns.
Roberto Luongo cries after the series
Rating: 5 Rick Tocchets out of 10
Canucks lose, Luongo cries. Canucks win, he doesn't. The series is a coin flip as far as I'm concerned. Thus, 5 Tocchets.
*I do not take any responsibility for bets made based on these predictions. Seriously, don't do it.
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Missy
Well, well, well, what do we have here? A rematch against the Hawks? Oh, how lovely! These two teams are still well-pitted against each other. Just look at our regular season series: 3-2 Canucks, 1-0 Hawks, 5-1 Canucks, and 6-3 Hawks. After all the stuff that has happened in the last year, it is ridiculous to say this won't be another amazing series. What will be key to the Canucks is avoiding the penalty box. Yes, there is obviously bad blood between the two teams, but ill-timed penalties can easily screw us over. As we saw in the LA series, our penalty kill is a weakness right now, and although we've started making improvements, the Hawks have heard the rumours, and will attempt to exploit it to no end. Our injury-plagued defense could be an issue as well, and the healthy ones will have to step up their game. Our forwards will ALL need to contribute. We need to have all 4 lines putting pressure on the young Hawks, and we won't get anywhere when only 1 or 2 of 4 lines are contributing. Finally, as we cannot say enough, Luongo needs to shine. He knows this, he is still fighting the memories of last year. But just because he is thinking about it doesn't mean he's producing. If our entire team shows up to play the best games of their lives, we can win this. Chicago will fight hard, but in the end, provided all our players show up to play, the Canucks will win in 6 and give the Hawks a taste of their own medicine.
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Smoboy
Predictions. Why do we do this to ourselves? Putting our necks out, only to have out heads cut off (figuratively) if we're wrong. Why? Cuz it's fun. I'ts almost like poking the hockey gods with a pointy stick, especially if you predict a win for your team. Tempt fate. C'mon, you know you want to. The rest of the regulars have.
Canucks in 7. There, it's out, gone into the great ethereal beyond, to be summoned up by whomever, to show to his/her friends and say, 'Can you believe this idiot?' Ha. Go ahead. No thought of future embarrassment shall dissuade me. OK, maybe a little, but I'm not changing my mind. The Canucks, our Canucks, will be moving on. No numbers to back it up, no charts, no graphs, no new century wizardry to produce, just a gut feeling. It's a different feeling I crave, though. The feeling that took over this city in 1982 and 1994. The feeling that maybe our boys CAN go all the way.
There are roadblocks on this drive, of course. The Hawks are a formidable team. Kane, Toews, Keith, Sharp, Byfuglien's ass, et cetera, et cetera. The sense that they, indeed, are this season's chosen ones, risen from the ashes to once again assert themselves as one of the best teams in hockey. Well, forget it. The 'Nucks have put their time in as well. 40 years, friends, 40 years with only 2 SCF appearances to show for it. It's time to shatter that ceiling that holds them down, time to push through and become one of the best teams in hockey. Hank and Dank. Keslord and Burr. FU Sweden and Welly. BALLS! and The Hoff. This team can do it. This team will do it.
The drink will flow, the blood will spill, and if the boys wanna fight, you better let 'em. -Phil Lynott
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Sean Zandberg
The Hawks need to win this series because they will undergo some potentially serious changes to their lineup this summer due to cap restrictions, even though their core will remain intact. The Canucks need to at least get past round 2 in order for this season to remotely be considered a success, as do the Hawks obviously. It seems that there is more pressure on the Hawks to win it all for the reasons mentioned above.
Hawks are a great team. So are we. Yeah, our D is a little banged up but they can still get the job done. Luongo and the Canucks look to make amends for the loss in round 2 last season. How hungry are they to do so? Lou is going to have to be a rock. The Hawks will pepper him more than the Kings did.
Season series 2-2. Great forwards against great forwards. A potential bloody war. It's the best series in round 2 and it's a coin toss in my opinion. I picked the Hawks to win in missy's pool so I won't change that. I say Hawks in 7. This series is all about discipline, depth and damned home ice advantage, IMO. If the Canucks can continue their improved play on the road in these playoffs then I will gladly look like a monkey's anus and take the stoning.
That's just my gut opinion. I am cheering and hoping above all else that my guts are just sick and twisted and that I am completely wrong.
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Yankee Canuck
I'm going to share my answer to the same question that I sent over to SCH for their Committed Indian publication (that way I look doubly awesome if I'm right):
The Hawks have been predestined to go the whole way since September it seems. Of all the teams to meet Chicago was dead last in my list (including Detroit, fuck those guys). As such, my gut reaction is Vancouver won't win, but maybe I am dwelling on last year too much: seeing over and over again Vancouver have no answer to the Hawks at either end of the ice. This year is a lot different and while the Canucks may appear "weaker" on paper, they've found their stride so many times I’ve lost count. All this talk about revenge is the media jacking off; Vancouver should be smarter and more composed because they know better than anyone they can’t beat Chicago by aimlessly sending messages.
If the Canucks can stay disciplined and keep their emotions in check, they'll keep the games close. If they can emulate some of Nashville's work ethic, they can play comfortably with the lead or without. If Luongo wants to put some demons to rest, they'll win games. If the top six keep scoring and we continue to get timely markers from Bernier and Demitra, they'll take it in seven.
If they can't bring their best by this point of the season against the opponent that ended their last one, they deserve the tee times.
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Canucks in 7.
Why? Because Lu is a competitor and he will take the puck from his net and go end to end and score a hat trick if that is what it takes to beat the Hawks. Do you remember the sadness and frustration on his face last year. This year, he has transformed that into determination and steely nerves. The Canucks this year are a different squad. They just keep coming. No longer do we have goons (Hordi) on our fourth line or penalty-taking pylons (SOB, he has drastically improved) weighing us down. The Canucks keep coming, and they keep scoring. I have been an advocate of Jannik Hansen since last year and I think if the Canucks keep getting production and hard work from players like him and Stone Hands, then the scoring will keep coming. Watch out this series for the Sedins to be shut down and for Sammy to keep sniping with 3 checks on him. Kes and MayRay will step and I think Blastoff and Salo will keep blasting from the point. The game breaker will be if the Canucks 5-6 D men, Juice and AA can stay out of the penalty box and not get burned by Chi-town’s forwards, and if the Canucks continue the trend and never give up and keep scoring. This will be the hardest series the Canucks will play in the last 5 years. The Canucks know its go time. And they won’t allow themselves to be ousted again.
Let the bodies hit the floor.
Also:
Though there is still plenty of time to take your whole paycheck and waste it on booze and send your kids/wife/girlfriend/boyfriend/mistress/escort/midget out of town for the evening and prepare for a Saturday of NHL playoff lunacy.
Im getting paid this week and my girlfriend has exams next week so she’s studying nonstop (damn nursing school), so this rings true for me.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 30, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
Also, I would like to direct you all to the Score Predicting standings..
Where you will see that I have climbed the standings from the basement and taken the 4th spot. I will soon over take Sean and proclaim “THE CHAMP IS HERE”.
You heard it here first.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 30, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
CC...you forgetting about someone. ;-)
Seems we are still tied. Those guys are going to go for the safe 3-2’s. You and me have to predict a few GWGs guys to beat em.
To further the wrestle-ese….go for the moonsault instead of the leg drop before going for the pin…
""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."
I'm pretty happy
with my 7 points considering I have only guessed 29 times.
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by Section 312 on Apr 30, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
;-)
Claiming victory in the winning percentage category?
LOL
""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."
a safe 3-2 score in this series???? Try 4-3
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 30, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
h/t to whomever made that image
Seriously, that is amazing.
Short report: Damn, I wish they’d play the series as a rolling series, meaning once one game ends, get a shower and go back out there for the next one. That’d be the only way the series would be any more of a physical bloodbath.
That being said, Canucks in six. The Fratelli’s split up last week so they won’t be performing that awful song at the United Center anytime soon. Then again, I’m not an expert.
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Re: the image
Yeah right? I needed to use it somehow. I had another random one ready to go, but this had to be used ASAP.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 30, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh shit they did split up
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 30, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Resident overoptimistic rose colored glasses glass always half full homer here. Canucks in 6, would have been 5 but the refs steal one for the hawks (not because of a conspiracy, just cuz they’re awful). That is all.
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I'm starting to get tired of the Hawks guys on SCH
continually pointing to our D as a galring weakness. Look I understand that people like to glorify their own team. I understand when fans are too caught up in banging the drum than rationally looking at a series with a level head. But it’s getting ridiculous. Do the Hawks have a stronger D? When healthy I think they do. The top 3 or 4 they sport are excellent. And by the sounds of it Hjalmarsson has really stepped up. I think the Hawks probably do have an edge on the back end. But if your going to comment on the Canucks D at least have watched some of our games this year. I keep reading that Ehrhoff is great going forward but can’t defend. That Edler and Salo aren’t good and we don’t have anyone after that. I guess they are going to be surprised when they see the way Edler, Ehrhoff and even Bieksa have been playing lately. They have a stronger D but to think that their D is vastly superior to ours or that our D is our biggest weakness is just plain wrong. It’s the worst kind of biased fandom that I can’t stand.
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by Section 312 on Apr 30, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions
basically, we just need this series to start.
seriously, we’ve known the matchup all week!
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let them do it. Our D has been messed up all year, and obviously it was our downfa… wait a sec.
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re: “biased fandom”
Isn’t bias part of the definition of fandom? I think that’s why fans who are critical or pessimistic in analyzing their own team get accused of being “bandwagon fans” or having their fandom questioned. In this case, you can’t blame outsiders for finding the D as a potential weakness of the Canucks — their goaltending has been pretty good and the forwards have been scoring a lot.
The D ended up being pretty solid against a decent LA attack. Salo and Ehroff have been consistently very good, both offensively and defensively. Edler played above average, tough and smart; more like what we saw when he shone last year. I know fans love to hack on SOB, but I thought he was very good in the first round — if he hits his stride and plays a mean, solid, disciplined stay-at-home style, that could go a long way in shutting down the Hawks’ secondary scoring. I think he will.
Rome/Baumer/Alberts will play like 6-7 D, ideally just not messing up too much in limited ice time, and not sitting in the box. Low expectations there, and every team has one or two of those guys. I think Bieksa is the wildcard. If he plays his best, that would make the hole left by Mitchell much less glaring — if he stinks, it throws the D out of balance and puts too much pressure on SOB and Edler to shine.
I know I’m going on too long about the D, but I feel like that’s really what the series will hinge on for the Canucks. Luongo and the top line will do their thing. I suspect we’ll see a better series out of Burrows and Kesler at both ends of the ice as they get fired up against this opponent. I liked seeing Demitra picking up the pace as the LA series progressed and it would be fantastic if he and Raymond could make some magic. Bernier and Wellwood seemed to wake up when the playoffs started and they can do some damage under the radar. I’ll be curious to see if guys like Johnson and Hansen can make a defensive impact.
Before the first round, I predicted this second-round matchup, with the Hawks winning in 7. I haven’t seen anything to change that now. We all saw in the LA series that bounces and puck luck may be the determining factor when teams match up this closely — flip a coin. Sure will be exciting to watch, though.
Yeah well I know I am pretty unreasonable
sometimes but it’s not like we are in the heat of the battle right now. We are in the lukewarmness of waiting. So no reason to be biased and unreasonable just because we can. I would love to talk shit about the Hawks D but let’s be honest it’s a very good group. Nothing gained from saying it isn’t.
And it’s not that our D might be our weakness. Cause that would be reasonable. And probably true. It’s reading comments along the lines of, “Our D is so vastly better than the Nucks there is no way we can lose” or “Can Ehrhoff even skate backwards?” stuff like that gets my goat.
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by Section 312 on Apr 30, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
They are a pretty confident bunch. I cannot understand how they so blithely dismiss Luongo.
We all know how his game went this year. We are Canuck fans. But we also know how talented he is.
But they seem to think because of Game 6 and some mojo that prevents Lui from having a good game into Chicago ( loved Lui’s retort to a Chi. reporter today ( yesterday? ) " I won here this year too right?" Couldn’t remember…" )…that all that stuff means that he is not that good. That the mighty power of Buf’s ass will turn him into quivering jelly.
Take away that one game, I think a reporter said on TEAM, and he has something like a low 2. GAA and a .930-ish sv %.
Yet you hear these guys saying that the goaltending comparison is a wash, or a win for them.
Against Luongo. A rookie. Who has had as many good as bad performances in the playoffs so far.
OK. That makes sense…
/walks away muttering about that fucking Game 6 that these guys keep talking about.
""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."
Yet you hear these guys saying that the goaltending comparison is a wash, or a win for them.
Actually, I’m not sure of anyone competent who is saying that. Basically, I think the Hawks have "bought into" the Red Wings approach. Defense isn’t all about the goalies. It’s about the total team defense. The Hawks "do more" to protect their goalie than the Canucks do to protect theirs. That is why the Hawks ended up top 5 in GAA to the Canucks 12th ranking.
“When Luongo gets rattled, his glove hand has all the speed and softness of Hellboy’s, but he can’t use it as a weapon. Remember Versteeg and Jordan Fucking Hendry beating him to that side easily during the blowout in March. The Hawks are moving Buff back to forward for the sole purpose of getting Bob off his game. Buff or others will probably get a goalie interference call or two during the series, if for no other reason than the officials will get tired of listening to Roberto and the rest of the Canucks bitch about it. But will Bob be more concerned with drawing calls and complaining than stopping pucks? Anyone who claims to know for sure is lying through his teeth, and even those are false.”
That’s from Sam…one of the writers there. I am NOT condemning Sam at all, BTW. Most the guys are great. Smart and know hockey. But the above paints Luongo as a whiner who can’t handle traffic, and is easily disturbed. That he has a shitty glove hand. That he will play like that Game in March, or that Game 6 last year is predetermined to occur again because it happened once.
It is not rocket science that you get traffic in front of goalies. The Kings had two guys there. And Buf is just a big guy, not a superman. Him being the one screening sometimes is kinda …meh…you know?
The Hawks may have had a lower GAA. Good for them. The Canucks led the league in coming back when behind in the 3rd. 13 times now, including twice in the first round. Just another stat.
Numbers help tell the story, but the story always seems to surpass what endless analysis predicts.
It’s all good Dale. I know we are all just itching for the puck to drop.
""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."
did they bring up the 5-1 loss? just sayin’… revisionist history is AWESOME!
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that and the random ‘Luongo is our bitch’ tweets from people I don’t even follow. Wanna base things on one game? Please, be our guest.
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to think that their D is vastly superior to ours … It’s the worst kind of biased…
Here’s the thing. The biggest strength of the Hawks Aren’t Toews and Kane, nor is it Hossa. The real strength of the Hawks is actually Duncan Keith. Just to get an idea of what I am talking about, I’m going to use the fancy kind of numbers given at behindthenet.
When it comes to the impact a certain player has on the team, Seabrook, Campbell and the Hawks "Hammer" combined are only slightly more valued than Edler, Ehrhoff and Bieska. So that’s a wash. The difference is the difference between Salo and Keith.
Salo has a value to the team a little bit lower than the Hawks Troy Brouwer. Keith has a value to the team slightly higher than Daniel Sedin. Yea, Keith’s value to the Hawks is up there in the Twins stratosphere. So when you are comparing Keith to Salo on D you are doing something similar to comparing D. Sedin with Troy Brouwer.
Now you may think the kind of stats shown at behindthenet are meaningless. That’s fine. All I am saying is that there are reasons that are way beyond "homerism" to think that the Hawks have a distinct advantage on the Blue line…
Dude did you not read what I wrote?
I fully admit your D is stronger. I fully admit that your high end guys are much better and that your D is an advantage for you compared to ours. I have no problem with that. I have a problem with people who don’t understand the kind of series Edler had against LA, the way Bieksa has picked up his game lately and the way Ehrhoff has come on leaps and bounds this year talking about our D like it’s barely better than a Midget team. It’s OK to say the Hawks have an edge on D it’s not OK to say that the Hawks D is so much better the Canucks won’t be able to win a game. There’s a difference between a well reasoned argument based on facts, like you did above, and the blatant homerism I have been reading all over SCH.
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by Section 312 on Apr 30, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t worry about it, Section 312. Trash talking is simply good fun this time of year. But if you read what Dale wrote again, I don’t think he’s even necessarily a Hawks fan based on what he wrote, and he’s not slagging Vancouver. He’s just digging into the numbers a bit, and based on gut feel, what he’s saying is ringing true to me. The Canucks don’t have a Duncan Keith. It doesn’t mean they can’t win a game, it just means they’ll have to compensate in other ways for the advantage the Hawks may have on D.
Predicting is fun.
For me, I find the media masturbation quote from Mike my fave. There has been so much hyperbole already in the buildup, but through it all i have heard our Canucks be remarkably even tempered about it all.
Without getting into the heretos and wherefores of defense this, and who’s got the better goalie ( the Canucks ), I am with Smo. For me it is just a feeling. Listening to the Hawks, they are rightly confident.
The Canucks sound like a team on a mission. “We just want to win 4 out of 7” is something I think I have heard from every player in interviews. As much as the quiet confidence when they all talk about “them being an excellent team, but so are we”.
I won’t be surprised if it goes 7, and I will not be totally gutted if I am wrong. But I have a feeling they win one of the first two, and take it in 6 classic games.
Oh, and I love the pic too. Kids and Flowers…a nice little interlude before the battle begins.
Oh look PK Subban just scored. A rookie…imagine that. Fuck all this talk about the defense being a weakness. There is a guy that was just in the AHL last week.
There will be stories about players on the Canucks that don’t get talked about. A Hansen or a Rypien…who knows.
""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."
Hypebole and Distraction
It could make the opening period one the Canucks win, just by keeping calm and away from the home crowd.
Adrenaline can work for and against…
Canucks in 6, cuz I really don’ wanna have to see them win a game 7 in Chicago; do-able but tough. Better to close it out at home where we get last line change and the Sedins can roam more freely.
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That would be nice huh? Seeing them cycle like they did against the Kings would be beautiful.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 30, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a lot has been made of it because the Twins are not talkers, even when they are interviewed.
But last year was there for them, and so close. They did produce, as did Sundin and others. It wasn’t enough and the team went out and got guys like Sammy and Hoff etc. This team is deeper. But I think the Sedins have become so much more dangerous off the rush this year. Of course they are skilled at the cycle…but it isn’t the only trick in the pony.
Seeing them cycle would be beautiful. But I love seeing the other three lines cycle too. They all do it well. Learning well from the cycle kings.
BTW…I remember someone saying here that they hated that drop play on the PP that our team, and especially the Twins, use to enter the zone on the man advantage.
I have seen almost every other team in the playoffs right now use the same play now. They were innovators on the cycle that every other team ( the Kings were great at it ) now uses as a staple of their game.
Sedins, getting better and innovating since 2000…
One more sleep.
""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."
Damn...missed my own point again.
I expect the Canucks to come out confident and hungry. But I expect to see a big leap in that regard from the Twins.
They may not talk a lot, but they are looking so much more enthused to win a Cup than ever before, and erase the memory of last year.
""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."
From the resident 'noob'...
I am not going to pretend that I am some kind of expert because I am not a bullshitter, and I hate bullshitters with a passion. It seems to me that the hockey world is full of them, and the reason I like NM is because of the site’s lack/intolerance of such invertebrates.
Anyways, I am also going to use my gut feeling to predict a score, as I am much too lazy to look at history/trends for these teams. The Canucks have been a much more confident team this year, and I believe they have what it takes to defeat Chicago in 6 games. Of course, Chicago is no LA, but the Nucks always step up to play at the level of their opponents, so I am not concerned about Chicago’s obvious strengths. I was very impressed with the play of a number of players in the first round, and these guys know what they need to do to win.
I am expecting big performances from Welly, Kesler and Death To Scoring Chances. And can we please keep the TSP down to only one per game? That would be very nice.
GO CANUCKS GO!
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Not just 3 goals on the PP… 3 for 3 for PP.
by Beantown Canuck on Apr 30, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Markov looks fukt. Big blow to the Habs. Interesting stat on Halak. Took Caps 134 shots to score 3 on him. Took Pittsburgh 8
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 30, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame the Russians :) So do you obviously. haha
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 30, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh I don’t mind the pens winning that series… Are there any fans more arrogant and with a bigger sense of entitlement than habs fans? I mean besides the wings? I’d be perfectly ok with a Vancouver/Pittsburg SCF, and from a ‘good for the game’ standpoint would much prefer it to an all canadian final. It’s not that I’m a huge pens fan, I just dislike them less.
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I agree with most of what you said except…god damn I hate the Pens.
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 30, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Being recklessly optimistic
I’m gonna say Canucks in 4.
I know, I know……but still I’m saying Canucks in 4.
I swear
I would go see a game in Pittsburgh just because they play music that actually could pump you up while watching it. First time I’ve ever heard ‘Raining Blood’ at a hockey game…
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I’ve heard it in Dallas before..but HELL YEAH!!!
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 30, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
so, i was looking for an image to use for the Squid tomorrow, and i found this gem:

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I love how Cherry just slammed the E-Desk, asking “Why do we read emails from jerks on Hockey Night in Canada.”
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
That was pretty funny. Then there’s an awkward moment of silence when he realizes he’s just slagged his colleagues and request backup from McLean…which RM offers in support.
damn, i should have left the post-game on instead of switching to family guy!
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"Ceterum censeo Chicago esse delendam"
Vancouver Canucks 4 – Chicago Pink Flamingos 2
Why? I hear names like Niemi and Huet and Bickell and Sopel and I
think to myself ‘those names have no business going on the Cup’.
Toews, Kane, Hossa and Keith certainly, but not yet, next year most likely.
Right now the Hawks have a thick scent of hubris about them
and if they lose the crash beforehand will be a spectacular one,
like a Hippo being upended over a cliff face.
John Shorthouse and Larscheid heads will explode on-air I assure you.
The Canucks top 2 lines have to break Niemi, simply put.
I have the hunch Daniel Sedin is going to have a big series
and F U Sweden already has Chicago’s number.
If Burish gets ice-time I think he’ll make a critical mistake, likely by trash-talking
to the media or the wrong guy or a bone-headed play.
If I was playing against Henrik I would be as quiet as a church mouse myself.
If the Canucks are going deep the 3rd line will have to keep its pace
and the 2nd line needs a shot of some Cialis.
Hope springs eternal and all that,
Sneps-ish.
ps-Never forget folks, I love each and every one of you.
Canucks, Blackhawks, Part II.
Just quickly, my predictions.
Canucks in 6, because there’s no way I would want to go back to Chicago for Game 7.
FU Sweden continues the awesome scoring streak, Luongo outplays a combination of Niemi and Huet.
At least 2 or 3 fights this series. If we could get a couple of fights in against a rather docile match up against the Kings, it’s going to be ridiculous against the Blackhawks.
Luongo ends up giving By-fugly a couple of shots, hopefully it goes unnoticed. And while I’m hoping, Kane goes 0 goals, 3 assists with a -5 for the series.
Man, everybody has long ass remarks and stats to back ‘em up. I could have sworn I read a haiku or two on this thread. There were disagreements and crying, predicting and guessing. Me personally, can’t really add anything that hasn’t been said 241 times before ( I counted). I just want this series to start, all of us to be united, cheer our team on. We all know there isn’t going to a sweep either way. So when we do lose one, I don’t want to hear bandwagon-jumping, luongo bashing, twinkie eating comments. These next couple of weeks are going to be unreal, maybe more so than the Western Conference finals because the enemy is so hated. Let’s all enjoy it, please drink responsible because the freakin PLAYOFFS are ON!!! My prediction? I predicted the Preds in 6.
PS – Did I see a cat on here?
WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 30, 2010 10:14 PM PDT reply actions
drink responsible???? You are forthwith banned from the Kingdom of Rohan
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 30, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the sergeant inside of me. gotta make sure my soldiers don’t kill themselves. How’s this; Please don’t continue to drink once you’ve passed out.
WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 30, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU SHALL NOT PASS
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 30, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, you did see a cat :)
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Weighted Coin-Toss
If Chicago wins it’s in 6, series clinching goal on an AA penalty.
If Vancouver wins it’s in 6, and Lou’s stolen two while the Sedins have gone hunting Bwackhawks for their Ornskoldsvik trophy case, and Kesler has mauled 20c.
Oh, someone needs to do a Rypper the Vampire vs. Buffy photoshop.
If it goes to 7 it’s a 60/40 Blackhawks likely to win because they’ve been that good at ES.
Yepp. And if you look at JLikens’ numbers based on the season numbers Chicago were just monsters during the regular season and really have the better shot to win.
On the other hand these numbers from the LA series are much better than the regular season numbers. Which should be encouraging.
I’m really looking forward to the games, win or lose it should be good hockey.
by rsm on May 1, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Shameless, naive optimism
Forget the come-uppances and revenge rhetorics. Forget Luongo’s Chi-town demons from last year. Forget all the media hype. Forget Kesler-Ladd. The Canucks are going to take this in 5. They’re not better than the Blackhawks and they know it. They’ll tighten up, keep Hawk shooters to the outside, and Luongo is overdue to steal a series. Byfuglien will charge the crease early in game 1, get a penalty, and Luongo will cruise the rest of the way.
Byfuglien will charge the crease early in game 1, get a penalty, and Luongo will cruise the rest of the way.
I wish that was true
Well, we will see how it’s called soon.
I know watching the contact from last year, almost all of them would have been a penalty the way they are calling it this year.
And Campbell did send out an edict or a DVD or something. We all know how well those work.
And that talk of Lui being warned by the NHL was more lazy reporting. Amazing with all the hotshots that get to cover the playoffs, and it took most of them a day to figure out that the quote was taken out of context to what one ref said in a game in the LA series ( I expect the one where he drew two straight…the second one light on Smyth )
Yet I wake up one morning this week and read panicky stories in the Province about Lui being warned.
Pffffhhhhhtttt.
""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."
Yepp, the Zebras are bound to be an issue at some point
by rsm on May 1, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Hatrick Kane and the Hawks
IN SEVEN!
Burrows will go bald before 30 for the downright dirty act of pulling hair.

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