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"If there's one guy that I know who doesn't dive and doesn't embellish, it's Roberto Luongo," said Alain Vigneault. "That's the first I heard of that. We've improved on going to tougher areas and staying in front of the net, but I think we've done it in a legal way."

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whatever… I am at the don’t care point now. haters can hate. idiots can talk their shit. and the NHL can just do whatever they please. we will prevail in spite of them all.

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Anybody watching the Sharks-Wings game?

Little Joe just made it 1-0.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

And Heaters just made it 2-0.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fear the Fin is fun right now. all the Blues fans hopped on their bandwagon.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should be, they’re running away it. 3-0 ten minutes in.

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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 29, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know

i bet howard is chased by the 2nd period….

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, there went nabby’s shutout….

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

*with it

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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 29, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're screwed

No, not really. But who is going to clear Big Buff out of the crease now? If the refs are going to be watching for dives by Luongo, Byfugilen will definitely push the envelope.

I bet we see a simultaneous goalie interference and diving call within the first 2 games, and lots of Buff getting in Luongo’s grill.

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by nucksandpucks on Apr 29, 2010 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

i bet Edler keeps Buff out of the crease this time around….

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll think they’ll use AHLberts to clear out BiFuglyAlien. It doesn’t take the ability to skate to move guys from in front of the net.

They’ll probably use Edler for his puck moving, goal scoring, and defensive positioning against the speedier lines.

That’s just my opinion though… the matchups might evolve as the series progresses.

Your Edler crush might be influencing your opinion. :)

by SteveNux on Apr 29, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Salo going to keep being great and getting no love or what? I get a little miffed about this shit.

Sure, Ehrhoff is an offensive defenseman, but he was one of the season’s +/- leaders? So, its not all the 44 points I think it was that he got.

Bieksa has gotten better since the injury. He and Alberts will be counted on, but Rome, one of the best min. price defensemen this season for almost ANY team, is probably able to play soon.

Besides, I haven’t even mentioned SOB having an overall splendid season. His game has taken a huge jump.

I get the talk about the D’…there is no Norris candidate like Keith. Our guys only played for Finland and Germany, not Canada like Keith and Seabrook. Did Hjalmersson play for Sweden? I know Edler SHOULD have.( 2 mistakes for the Tre Kroner on the Van roster that they missed! )

Beyond that, of course there is Campbell, coming off an injury well. But Hendry, Sopel, and Boynton are certainly not any better than the above mentioned Canucks.

It will be an entertaining series.

The matchups will be fascinating. Personally, I think if the 3rd line can produce at anywhere near their previous play, the Top 6 talent on both teams will be a wash. I know I remember one of those talking head shows telling me that the Canucks led the League in scoring from the back end. A few goals from them…some magic mittens from Welly.

Maybe Demo can wear his Slovak t-shirt under his jersey from here on in. Even some of that magic and the Hawks will be hard pressed.

Damn…almost there…Sat. can’t come fast enough….

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by vancitydan on Apr 29, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooops…gp off on a tangent and forget the very first thing.

Sami Salo has played huge minutes, had s few ups and downs, but overall hass been excellent.

With the all situations the big guy plays, having a goal, 2 assists and a +4 through the playoffs to date is good enough for me.

If we get that much from Sami, we’ll be fine.

""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."

by vancitydan on Apr 29, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with everything you said regarding Salo’s stellar defensive play and Edler and O’Brien’s step up to the next level.

My point was that if you have a 260+ lbs guy standing in front of your net, you need a big ass dude to be able to move him. All of our D could check his stick and get position on him, but the screen will still be there.

The only way we can make that guy scared to be in the crease is with pain and size and I think Alberts and O’brien are the most capable of that.

by SteveNux on Apr 30, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope AA can be our man for the job.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alberts? Yeah..no. He’d take penalties and be a fool. Like Bieksa said today, the Canucks have to box in front of Lou and keep Buttfugly out

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s been penalty-free the last 2 games, he may have turned a corner in that department.

Besides, I think most of his penalties have been from being out of position or slow. Moving Buff away from Lu wouldn’t be a task that involves much skating.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t trust him yet. That’s just me. If Rome is ready I can’t see why AA doesn’t sit anyway

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

glad to see people are posting here...

I would be posting at Fear The Fin but the 48 hour troll protection is preventing me

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 6:38 PM PDT reply actions  

oh, that sucks.
i lucked out by signing up at all the hockey blogs during the off-season last summer.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should do that one of these days…

if we make it through to face them, they seem a tad hostile towards us, don’t you think?

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

just talked to them over there, they’d rather face us than the hawks in the next round.
they’re cool people, much like the SLGT group.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’d rather face us than the hawks in the next round.

see, when I see people say something like that, it comes across as something less of a compliment. I don’t know the context, but it usually means they’re not concerned

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, this was in reply to me saying that i’d rather face them in the next round by detroit, so it’s all good.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

let me fix that.
the next round by than detroit

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool…
well hopefully I can pop my head in there before the series is over lol

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't think of it as not being concerned about the canucks

They’d be foolish to think that. But you can’t blame them for not wanting to face the Hawks. We flat out spanked them in the season series. Even the one game we lost, they were utterly dominated up and down the ice, outshot by 20-30, but Nabokov played the game of his life.

Tremendously tremendous

by synaptique on Apr 29, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

 sportsnetmurph
  
Just landed RT @VanCitySports: What time does the team leave for CHI today? Or have they already?

No word on whether the National Guard will be guaranteeing their safe passage to the hotel inside the Green Zone

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

TSN panel is unanimous

Question: who’s getting the Hart?
they all answered Hank.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I was a little shocked…

Aaron Ward looks pretty comfortable behind the desk, no?

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah he does! He talked himself into a hole though as far as Hank’s supporting cast goes. :)

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

So with the East being beyond what anyone could have foreseen who’s got the Habs beating the Pens?

I do

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:21 PM PDT reply actions  

i’m going with the Habs making the Cinderella run to the SCF’s, only to lose to the Western champ (ideally the Canucks).

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Pens are much more well-rounded than the Caps.

I don’t think the Habs can beat them.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that is true. But if Halak keeps this up you never know

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see Halak stealing one, maybe 2 games in this series, but Pens are much more willing to get dirty goals, rebound goals. Guys like Staal should have a big series.

With that said, they’re going to have to get shots on net. Montreal just puts up a damn wall up in front of Halak, making SOG a pretty rare stat.

by Vancouverguy on Apr 29, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Pens also have patience and full-team play. Crosby doesn’t do the “HEEERE I come to save the DAAAYYY!” thing – he uses his teammates to better effect the later the game goes.

Cammalleri is going to need to keep up his scoring pace, and Gionta and Gomez are going to have to do a hell of a lot more for Montreal to get through. Moving Moen up to the first line was inspired, though…

by Thursday on Apr 30, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I hate the Wings. Go Sharks!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

The girl working the Sharks-Wings game (Lindsay Soto) = Hot

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Shanny knows.

“she has huuuuuuge ….. tracts of land!”

by ChuckinNux on Apr 30, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice.

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by tzunino on Apr 30, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Diving question?

I have to ask since I am a hockey neophyte (means newbie, I had to look it up but wanted to sound kind of smart so I used it.) I have only been watching seriously for three years now and there seems to be a lot of talk about diving and embellishment everywhere out there from the infamous Burrows/Auger fiasco, Luongo, Crosby and list goes on.

Coming from a baseball background I’m thoroughly familiar with bush league play etc. That being said…If you watch a game you can see many players, respected players, on every team out there “pushing the envelope” of the rules in one way or another to gain an advantage why is diving so looked down upon? I mean if Holmstrom and Buttfuglyn can live in the crease outside the rules why is Luongo embellishing it to draw attention to the player in his crease such a big freaking deal?

I’m not trying to start a shit storm here just an honest question??

Personally I’m not a fan of diving/embellishment.

Sorry if grammar sucks I didn’t feel like previewing it….:)

by Sharkbeight on Apr 29, 2010 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

refs don’t like diving either.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s dishonorable and can makes refs look like fools. Buffy can live in the crease all he wants, but if he physically hits Lou or impedes his ability to stop the puck then he’ll get a penalty or a goal can be disallowed. Problem is, the refs don’t catch everything, so some players embellish to bring it to refs’ attention. The refs may fall for that a few times, but it embarrasses them. It’s an integrity thing.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Sean

I can buy that. I am guessing then one of the D men is given a little more leeway to clear the player out of the crease if the goalie isn’t trying to win an Oscar?

by Sharkbeight on Apr 29, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, a lot less leeway than they used to have. Back in the day the goalies would put a 2-hander across the asshole’s ankle. Now you crosscheck him and he falls you could be in trouble, especially if the guy dives….and now we’ve come full circle :)

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Waiwaiwait. I just got home.

Why’s Marleau scratched?

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by eightyseven on Apr 29, 2010 7:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

undisclosed injury.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to NHL.com

“… what was being reported as an illness that included a high fever.”

Cue cowbell jokes in 3, 2, 1 …

by Oarboar on Apr 29, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fibromyalgia

I’m waiting for a player to sit out a game or three with that!

by Sharkbeight on Apr 29, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another !@#$ing newbie with another !@#$ing question

I’m having to follow online. I saw where two guys for Detroit and one guy for San Jose went into the penalty box at the same time. I suppose if Detroit scored in that situation, their reward would be to go down 5-3?

by Oarboar on Apr 29, 2010 7:44 PM PDT reply actions  

no

it would just count as a normal short-handed goal. the two penalties for the roughing just cancel each other out, so that would just count as even-strength. the 2nd wing penalty is the only special team occurence there.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

let me know if that doesn’t make sense.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

*nods head*

Thank you. I thought I read you had a calculus test the other day. Got one coming up tomorrow morning myself. Ugh.

by Oarboar on Apr 29, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i actually finished with an A in that course :)
i also had linear algebra and differential equations this term :(

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice embellishment by Setoguchi.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 7:47 PM PDT reply actions  

nice PP suck by Joe Thornton too. What a predictable fucking moron he is :)

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, how do you REALLY feel about Jumbo Joe?

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

waste of sperm! gutless! no 2nd gear in the playoffs! FAIL!!! Jackass!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m gonna start rolling with…Unless there is blood or convulsions it’s embellishment or a dive. :)

by Sharkbeight on Apr 29, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

too much grey area.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not for me…..they’re either leaking or Decorticate posturing ;) LOL

by Sharkbeight on Apr 29, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really don’t understand how getting hit in the face causes your legs/arms to give out like that.

I play a bunch of hockey and have been clipped in the face on occasion, I’ve never toppled over like you see in the NHL. I hate how this part of the game is turning into soccer.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

And as soon as it is almost the equivalent of soccer I’ll quit watching

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Pavelski is the latest John Druce

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 8:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Joey Pavs

is gonna help me win the NM Fantasy Playoff Pool.

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by Section 312 on Apr 29, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude, you’re already leading by a freakin long shot!

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by missy on Apr 30, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah and I am sure Franzen and

Pavs helped extend that lead!!!!

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by Section 312 on Apr 30, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMFG! Thornton has an assist! No way!

Pavelski and Franzen are such good playoff performers. So clutch.

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by Canuckk on Apr 29, 2010 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I got them both in the pool. :)

A lot of others do too though…

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well Franzen was a pretty well-known playoff performer. Pavelski not quite as much. But everyone knows now. Wish I’d picked him.

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by Canuckk on Apr 29, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha like myself.

Took Pavelski thinkinh Heaters and Jumbo would choke. Franzen for the low point count.

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by eightyseven on Apr 29, 2010 8:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Word up. Same logic I used.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uncharacteristic of the Wings to take so many penalties…

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn’t we let Malhotra walk last summer after his tryout?

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t remember that.

You’re thinking of Scatchard maybe?

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

no I think we had Manny in our camp too

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

He was just skating with the team, that’s all.

Read it here.

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by cyxj on Apr 29, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

well look... did you know the sedins and demitra

are divers??

Who will be guilty more often?

A. The Twins and Pavol Demitra for diving.

B. Byfuglien, Andrew Ladd and Troy Brouwer for interference to Luongo?

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by Kent Basky on Apr 30, 2010 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha…WHAT?? They got the wrong Canucks!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 30, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

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