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I think the strangest part about last night's epic game 7 victory by Montreal is the number of people who were kidding themselves when they say they were shocked.  And I am one of them.  For as much as we all tried to tell people there was no way this could happen, if you even passively watched this series you could see Washington simply did not have what it takes.  Jaroslav Halak the only reason they won?  Not even close.  Huge reason yes, but stifling, disciplined defense and a team that forechecked ferociously, taking advantage of Washington mistakes contributed.  The Caps powerplay going 1 for 33 or something like that might have had something to do with it as well.  More after the jump...

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I saw a stat last night that makes you think the upset wasn't so much the shock, it was the collapse and failure by the Capitals.  The amount of time the Canadiens held the lead in the series: 434 minutes.  Washington?  55 minutes.  I was floored by this.  Yes, Montreal played their game plan to a T.  But the Capitals biggest players let them down, and Bruce Boudreau was out coached by Jacques Martin.  Perhaps that might be the key?  When I first heard the rumblings from Caps fans that should they lose Game 7 they wanted Boudreau fired, I thought it was a little reactionary.  I dismissed it, because after all there are people who follow the Canucks who call for Vigneault's head if there's a bad line change.  Grain of salt and all that.

The problem with the Caps, and Boudreau from what I can see is focus. The Canucks had some issues that could have sunk them because of the distraction they could have turned into.  But the management and coaching staff did a fine job of stating their piece and then getting the back into focus on the task at hand.  The Capitals always seemed to have trouble with this.  Criticism, fair or not was reacted to with outrage from media, bloggers, fans and the Caps PR department.  Discipline leveled against Caps players, or the discipline given to others for infractions against the Caps were biased, and influenced by the Canadian media.  And probably most damaging of all, they have an owner who regularly contributes to this mindset.  Ted Leonsis is a popular owner, so his words lend credence to any perceived slight in the eyes of Capitals fans.

Just like there's no conspiracy against the Canucks, there isn't one against the Capitals.  The NHL and media on both sides of the border bend over backwards to cater to the Caps (and not that this is a bad thing, they're an immensely talented team with one of the best players in the league on their roster).  But to hear the Caps, there's some kind of media embargo going on where they're being portrayed like Kim Jong Il or something.  When the chips were down in this series, the focus always seemed to be on "we didn't get this call, this wasn't right".  Chances and bounces come to those who work for them.  Did anyone see a change in Alex Ovechkin's game plan even once this series?  It's been said man is the only animal dumb enough to trip over the same rock twice.  I lost track of how many trips that was.

With the Pittsburgh/Washington matchup now gone, the league's playoff focus now turns to promoting Crosby and the Red Wings.  That's right, the Red Wings.  The Coyotes' remains were being unloaded at the morgue when a new 'History Will Be Made' commercial was uploaded at NHL.com.  It features Pavel Datsyuk scoring with the line 'What if the draft didn't go past 5 rounds' or something to that effect.  With Ovechkin out of the picture, the NHL appears to be throwing their chips at a re-rematch, or else the Penguins facing the Blackhawks.  Just watch, the coverage will bear this out over the next couple weeks.

Not much to cover from our neck of the woods, but remember that we get the news up here asafp, so keep checking back for updates.  NM will have it's staff predicitons tomorrow as we prepare for game 1 Saturday in Chicago.  In the meantime, lots of great discussion here so don't just lurk, get in on it.

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They showed a “History Will Be Made” commercial with the tagline “What if Carkner had given up on making the NHL?”

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by tzunino on Apr 29, 2010 7:17 AM PDT reply actions  

I think that was made by the team… this one was (I could be wrong) made by the league itself.

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t believe it when I saw that commercial last night! I thought they were reserving them for, you know, really memorable NHL playoff moments.

I didn’t know Datsyuk scoring the 4-1 (or whatever) goal THE DAY BEFORE counts as memorable…

I guess the NHL is really fellating Detroit now. That makes me want them to lose even more now.

And really, the tagline “What if the draft stopped at the fifth round” should really be used on Halak – 9th rounder stoning the “best” players in the NHL? Yeah, that’s a bit better I think.

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 29, 2010 7:34 AM PDT reply actions  

think about it

what’s sexier? Detroit or San Jose… Chicago or Vancouver?
a Sharks and Canucks conference final will not make them happy

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

True. The NHL has to be drooling about a possible Det/Chi and Pit/One of the Winter Classic teams Conference Finals. Those are basically the 5 of the 6 teams (RIP Washington) that NBC ever shows.

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by nucksandpucks on Apr 29, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know. Fuck the NHL. Fuck Bettman. Go go Habs-Nucks final!!

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 29, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

CBC’s ratings would go through the roof for that! Game 6 of Canucks/Kings drew almost 3 million viewers, and I imagine the Habs game last night drew even more. A Nucks/Habs final would probably put the ratings above the 5 million mark, if not much higher, in Canada. In the States? Ehh, not so much.

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by nucksandpucks on Apr 29, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but that 5 million watching Habs/Nucks would be more than would watch almost any series in the US except, perhaps, for certain local markets.

by Beantown Canuck on Apr 29, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course....

…the NHL is pissed that Halak kept them from a Ovi-Sid matchup, so screw the Habs!

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Apr 29, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't understand the attitude

on this thread right now. Of course the NHL was rooting for Washington. I am sure they root for Toronto and the Rangers to make the playoffs every year. Why wouldn’t the league be hoping that all of it’s most high profile and big market teams make it as far as possible? If they weren’t hoping for that and weren’t taking advantage of those big market or high profile teams then they wouldn’t be doing what’s best for the league.

Now if they were trying to influence results on the ice then that would be an issue. But I highly doubt there is some kind of conspiracy to make sure certain teams do well. Cause if there is they are doing a shitty job of it.

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by Section 312 on Apr 29, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW, mine was tongue-in-cheek. I do not believe in any conspiracy, aside from the NHL’s preference to keep their bigger market teams around for as long as possible. Which, as you point out, isn’t a conspiracy.

Sorry if that was unclear. I can’t speak for anyone else.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Apr 29, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I wasn't really responding directly

to you more just to everyone and your comment was at the bottom of the list so I figured that’s where I would put mine. I did detect some sarcasm in your post although you never know.

I do get tired of the anti-NHL, anti-Bettman crowd sometimes. The guy deserves a lot of criticism but it seems that no matter what he does there is a certain crowd that criticize him no matter what. Like he could cure cancer and some people would still say that he only cares about curing American cancer. Criticizing him for wanting the best possible match-ups to make the NHL money and make sure more eyes are watching their product? I don’t get that. It seems to me that’s good for the league. People cheering for an all Canadian SCF PURELY because it would piss off Bettman are basically cheering against the NHL because they don’t like the guy in charge. It doesn’t make sense to me. If the Canucks don’t make the final I hope it is Chicago and Pittsburgh. It’s good for the NHL and that in turn is good for all of us. Couple that with the conspiracy theorists that abound in Canuck nation and I feel the comments go WAY overboard at times.

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by Section 312 on Apr 29, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read an article on yahoo sports a few days ago (it might have been a puck daddy blog, I’m not sure) that pointed out that the NHL playoffs and regular season are passing basketball in popularity…which was a huge surprise to me. It wasn’t a satirical article either. I think if nothing else, Bettman does deserve credit for raising the profile of a sport that was suffering hardcore due to a combination of being a very low general appeal sport the way it was played and then all the controversies that have hit it since(lockout, bertuzzi incident, phoenix fuckup etc.).

We all want to instantly demonize bettman for destroying hockey, but the fact is he’s elevated it alot. Yes, the instigator rule is the dumbest thing ever, and yes the shootout kind of sucks. But I see the logic behind both. I also don’t really mind the bettman points, although I would like to see it go to (as some people have previously suggested) a 3 point system instead of two points. The Bettman regime has also brought in some good things… the salary cap has completely levelled the NHL playing field. It’s made management a much more essential and strategic part of the team, and truly does give smaller market teams a chance to be competitive. The changing of certain rules to speed up the game are nothing but good.

Is bettman a snivelling weasel? Yes. Do he and the rest of the leadership team of the NHL fuck up? Constantly…but no more than any other league, really. Has he been bad for hockey? I’m not sure that he has been, I’m really not. I very firmly believe that growth of the market and viewership is most definitely good for the NHL over the long haul, and does nothing but further entrench the game we so love, and no one can deny that Bettman has succeeded in that. Not without hiccups, but then again, until you’ve been CEO of a massive organization and not had any hiccups you can’t really claim to have done better. Even Microsoft and GE stumble…

Ok, after all that bettman supporting i feel like i need a shower…I really don’t like the guy from what I see of him. I just think as a fanbase we’re sometimes wayyyy too quick to vilify him even tho not everything he’s done has been bad.

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by GAHHHHH! on Apr 29, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The biggest issue

the NHL needs to sort out right now is the disciplinary process. Let’s make suspensions fair, consistent and have them make sense. Then clean up the Coyotes situation and let Ballsilly have a team somewhere else.

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by Section 312 on Apr 29, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know that ballsilly would be a good owner to have…but yeah, the disciplinary process is utterly clusterfucked.

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by GAHHHHH! on Apr 29, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see how

a guy with endlessly deep pockets, an in depth understanding of technology and it’s future, and a love of hockey could be a bad owner. Will he play by the conventional rules? Maybe not. But neither does Mark Cuban and no one can argue he isn’t ultimately good for the NBA.

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by Section 312 on Apr 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure he loves hockey. Sure, he has pretty deep pockets, though I wouldn’t say endlessly deep. And obviously he knows technology, although i’m not sure how big of a benefit that is to the league, really…he gonna give them all free blackberry’s? Somewhere, though (and obviously we’re not privy to it), he has an inflexibility that causes the other owners pain…and that is the only reason necessary to make him a bad owner. He needs to figure out how to cure that pain and then I don’t see why the league wouldn’t allow him in with open arms. It may be as simple as the league fears another team on the horseshoe (er…is hamilton on the golden horeshoe?) would damage revenues overall, or it may be deeper than that.

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by GAHHHHH! on Apr 29, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Technology

from Blackberry’s to Twitter to iphone apps to downloadable content to streaming video to whatever else. There has been a huge benefit to sports league’s in the last 5 years who embrace these various ways of bringing the fans close to their sport. I am sure that the head of RIM knows of new and unimagined ways to reach people that would benefit the league.

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by Section 312 on Apr 29, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?? The NHL is pissed about this and that. It’s getting old and they are most likely false accusations. You guys talk like you’ve watched Conspiracy Theory too many times.

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

You have to admit that an all Canadian (or even half Canadian) final would be the worst possible thing for the NHL in the USA though, ratings wise.

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 29, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I’m not saying there is, or buying into any talk about, a conspiracy. Because there absolutely isn’t. The NHL just promotes some teams more than others.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Apr 29, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not about ratings

It’s about money. The NHL has already made every cent out of CBC and TSN for the year. They get a flat rate, no matter what the ratings are. With NBC broadcasts the league gets half of the revenue. So it is very, very important that NBC gets good ratings. You better believe that the league wants Chi, Det, Pitt, Bos to be the final 4.

by manadrew on Apr 29, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK but why

is that a bad thing? Why is it bad for the NHL to want to make money? The more money they make the better able they are to promote their game. The more money they make the more money the players make. The more money they make the more stable the game we love becomes. Why is it a bad thing that the NHL wants the best possible match-ups for the league’s sake? If they weren’t rooting for those outcomes they would be negligent. As long as they aren’t meddling with the results to try and fix the outcome so certain teams advance then there is no problem. In fact what they are doing, rooting for good matchups, is exactly what they should be doing.

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by Section 312 on Apr 29, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think people are accusing the NHL of conspiracy. But it’s common knowledge that the US is a much larger market than Canada and has a lot more potential for revenue growth (because Canada’s NHL revenue is probably close to being maxed out without adding more teams). The NHL prefers all-American match-ups of well known-population centres for marketing purposes. Also, they have done so much promoting Crosby and Ovechkin to the public, which means it’s a waste if either of them doesn’t last in spring.

by SJKel on Apr 29, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure. To me, Bettman bashing is getting old. I’m just saying. You guys can continually “complain” about it, but I’ll just chirp in once in a while, right or wrong :)
I’ve read plenty of conspiracy theories lately from all over the place. Now it’s on to round 2! Let the new theories begin!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll just chirp in once in a while, right or wrong :)

Ahhhh…… minimalistic commentary, not unlike furniture from that store in Sweden… i i i ikea!

Another reason to love the Swedes! ;)

by nucklinBadger on Apr 29, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a job that takes up a lot of my time. I can’t get into this further until I get off work

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 29, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK. I'll start.

“Buffy” is gonna be allowed to have his way with Luongo all series long:)

by Bobby Canuck on Apr 29, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I say wrong

The NHL has been cracking down on goaltender interference, and it was Holmstrom and Byfuglupagus that were who they had in mind. He’s not going to be the pain in the ass he was last time. Take that away from him and he’s just another 19 goal scorer who weighs well over 200 pounds and refuses to fight…

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by Kent Basky on Apr 29, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Luongo has gotten pretty darn good at selling interference without overdoing it – if Buff so much as touches him he’ll probably end up in the box. Still, I hate that guy because he really seems to get under Luongo’s skin – if Lou can just keep his focus and not get distracted he’ll be fine.

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by nucksandpucks on Apr 29, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Caps eulogy

So that’s what the West Coast Express looked like from afar!

by nucklinBadger on Apr 29, 2010 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

whatever happens between us in the upcoming weeks, let us not forget our mutal hatred of the red wings and their fans.

by SLoop on Apr 29, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah, we can do that.

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by missy on Apr 29, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

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