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Well that was ugly, wasn't it?  Gary Bettman's science project took the Detroit Red Wings to game 7 before being savaged 5-1, the playoff dream over for the Phoenix Coyotes.  And while the fans of the Coyotes are hurting right now, believe me, if it had to end, this was the best way.  Imagine if they had lost in overtime, or worse... like Nashville did on Saturday?  It will be much easier to get over this loss this way than a 1 goal decision.  It doesn't feel so good now, but you will get through it.  As far as the future of the Coyotes, who knows?  Some are saying it's doomed to fail.  My hope is that, for the sake of the true fans down there (and there are some), that if it has to end it's quick and as relatively painless as possible.  They've been through enough.

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The battles for the West are now set, our rematch with the Blackhawks and the San Jose Sharks with a much tougher test than the Avalanche as they take on the Wings.  And after a game 7 that didn't live up to the hype, tonight we have one that possibly could, and that has the NHL shitting their collective well tailored pants.  It will be a setback for the gains the NHL is making selling the game in the US if Alex Ovechkin and the Washington Capitals lose to the Montreal Canadiens tonight.  The CBC is thrilled at the possibility of having 2 Canadian teams in the 2nd round, especially one in each conference.  NBC and Versus?  Not so much.  Think about all the marketing that has gone into promoting Ovechkin.  The highly anticipated rematch between Sidney Crosby's Penguins and Ovechkin's Caps derailed by Jaroslav Halak?  Not the end of the world, but think of all the promos that have been prepared in advance.  People were talking about this rematch when the two teams were shaking hands last year. 

I am hoping tonight's match will be a little less one-sided than the beatdown in the desert last night.  I am not a fan of either team, but I am favoring one team over another.  And I hope they win.  And yes, being vague is fun.

So other than that, we wait for Saturday.  There will be countless articles written about each team, who will have the advantage, etc.  Some will be written by hockey writers who are looking forward to what could be the best series of the second round.  Others, hit pieces by jaded hacks, but what else is new?  Either way, we look forward to some excellent discussion and playful, respectful banter with fans of the Hawks and anyone else who wants to stop by.  I wasn't on this site last year, and I am excited to be a part of the NM team as the Canucks seek out 12 more wins.

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Does anyone want the Caps to win...

Just so the Penguins don’t have a clear path to the final?

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by tzunino on Apr 28, 2010 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

that has crossed my mind actually

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 28, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

even the Leafs fans on Twitter seem to be taking shots at Caps fans in preparation for a Habs win right now… but that is a very interesting thought. I wonder if Boston could end up surprising everyone though.

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by Kent Basky on Apr 28, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the so-called “lowest scoring team in the league” they did manage to get quite a few past the so-called “best goaltender in the league”. Just saying.

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 28, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boston…yes! I support them going through to the Finals!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 28, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

With Savard back from the well publicized hit, they have “feel good story” potential as well.

""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."

by vancitydan on Apr 28, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

just like the Hawks with Campbell..

ding ding ding!

by Sean Zandberg on Apr 28, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Canucks with RJ?

Balls rescues the PP, and then goes right back on the I/R with another busted toe.

""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."

by vancitydan on Apr 28, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am hoping you meant PK.

If Balls is on the PP, AV and I are going to have words.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Apr 28, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

OOOPS!

I did.

""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."

by vancitydan on Apr 28, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the Caps win, it would set up a Bruins/Pens match-up; Savard coming back just in time to play against Matt Cooke.

I don’t know how much “feel good” as there will be hate more than anything else.

by Laharl on Apr 28, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they’ve forgotten about it and don’t get emotional about it. No room for error in the playoffs, and they can’t afford to lose their cool. I’m rooting for Boston too – got my ‘I Love Lucic’ shirt ready to go.

by sunshine and lollipops on Apr 28, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even if they do avoid Pittsburgh in the second round, they won’t avoid them in the Conference Finals (unless you expect Montreal to win tonight AND upset the Pens). I just don’t think they have a good enough team to get past Sid and Co.

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by tzunino on Apr 28, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

the difference?

Boston won in large part because of Rask. Pittsburgh won in spite of Fleury.

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by Kent Basky on Apr 28, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fleury was actually not that bad, he may have found his game later in the series. He was also completely unphased by the jeering of the crowd. However, I didn’t watch earlier games (due to work) other than the triple OT marathon.

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by tzunino on Apr 28, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can just imagine the NBC/Versus Splashes in the event the Canadiens upset Washington …

 1. a cut and paste position of Halak’s head on Ovechkin’s body….
 2. Pittsburgh vs. Washington Montreal ….

Network execs stating that the viewing audience won’t know the difference anyway.

by ChuckinNux on Apr 28, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

and the key? graphics that say Montreal, but show the caps logo

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by Kent Basky on Apr 28, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

GO CAPS! My hockey pool is counting on you :(

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by isomicah on Apr 28, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

I hope the game tonight isn’t as anti-climactic as last nights…

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 28, 2010 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

I want the Habs to win tonight just so Bettman and Co. can start shitting themselves. Who knows, maybe if that happens he’ll relocate them to Hawaii and say sunbelt expansion was a TREMONDOUS success he had no choice because he saw two or three empty seats at the Bell Center.

WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............

by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 28, 2010 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

What is so hard about making a national TV deal? He’s in no position to ask for loonie. Take whatever NBC and ESPN will give him and call it a day. Shit, any exposure is good exposure.

WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............

by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 28, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a good point about this the other day… the person said “If the NHL goes back to ESPN, it gets buried in amongst everything else. On Versus they are the big deal”

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by Kent Basky on Apr 28, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

who gives a fuck, at least they’re on ESPN! The only reason I like Vs. is because of the hockey, otherwise i would never have that channel What’s so hard about all three? Pay Vs. more

WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............

by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 28, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

What aren’t you understanding? The NHL was on ESPN and was, like Waach said, totally buried. Better to be the big fish in a small pond, in this case.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Apr 28, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck, I really, really, really hate Bettman.

WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............

by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 28, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Welcome to the (very large) club

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 28, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

i had a dream where he went to jail for a white collar crime and then got man loved.

WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............

by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 28, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

i would’ve woken up happy except he turned around and asked for more, kinda depressing actually………….

WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............

by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 28, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

uh

I hate Bettman as much as the next guy… but my dreams never involve him, let alone anything so Freudian :p

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by Kent Basky on Apr 28, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm, wonder what that says about me?

WOO HOO for surgery!!! I got a month off of work and I get another month next week!!! Long run baby, long run............

by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 28, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bettman is a wonderful example of how organizations can survive, and even thrive, despite management. Montreal, and even more so Boston, could be a real handful if they advance. Boston is a good team having a bad year and now getting their top point-generator back, plus their goalie has been stellar. Montreal is coming together at the right time and Halak has been special, but they really have to be on their game to make it work – any lapses and they are in real trouble.

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by ElectricWombat on Apr 28, 2010 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope Montreal wins so the league loses money.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 28, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I am just watching PTI.

Amazing franchise stats on the Caps.

6 times they have failed when having an 2-0 or 3-1 lead.

Their record in Game 7s is a mind boggling 0-20.

Wow.

""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."

by vancitydan on Apr 28, 2010 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

WOW

So based on this info, is anyone gonna bet the farm on the Habs tonight?! lol

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by cyxj on Apr 28, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good question.

1 game.

We saw what Halak did in Game 6. Knowing how passionate Habs fans can get, I would wager that there have been several large wagers made by Habs fans.

Not sure I would bet on them tonight. But that is because I would rather see the Caps win, purely for entertainment quality in the next round if nothing else.

2 Cdn teams in the 2nd rd notwithstanding, or course ( I just invoked the notwithstanding clause! Just like Quebec?!! )

;-)

""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."

by vancitydan on Apr 28, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would’ve been money in the bank!!

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by cyxj on Apr 28, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah…and betting the under with Halak around is probably a good idea too.

What a performance.

""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."

by vancitydan on Apr 28, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

my gut tells me

If the Habs get through the first period alive, the Caps are in trouble. They need to stop them early and convincingly.

Oh and apparently we don’t stand a chance, because Calgary Flames legend Todd Hlusko said so on OTR.

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by Kent Basky on Apr 28, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah…I just saw that.

Those Sedins…I don’t know…

Hey Todd…ummmm….Art Ross?

They didn’t even mention Sammy!

""I felt last year our guys were ready to take that next step," Vigneault said. "We weren't able to get through Chicago. I feel we're even more ready now. Having gone through that experience, having learned from it. . . we're going to be better prepared to face the challenge ahead of us."

by vancitydan on Apr 28, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was sad… whatever. I love the Canucks in the underdog role here. They’ll try and say you can’t call them underdogs, yet bring up game 6 ad nauseum. If the Hawks are so much better than the Canucks, that would make the Canucks underdogs. You can’t have it both ways.

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by Kent Basky on Apr 28, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is interesting

that for most of the season we were a Stanley Cup contender and then as soon as the playoffs started all of a sudden we aren’t really that good. I don’t know. The only way to figure out which team is better is to play the games. If we ever play an actual game in this series. Seriously, why aren’t we playing Chicago tomorrow?

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by Section 312 on Apr 28, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Injuries

Vancouver’s D is thin, thin, thin right now. Being an underdog for this round isn’t a real surprise, though I do think some people are exaggerating by just how much.

I’m just amazed Salo is still intact.

by Thursday on Apr 28, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Hawks aren’t exactly loaded up on D any more either. Any injury would mean Buff moves back and then who knows after that.

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by cyxj on Apr 28, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Top 4 is very good

for the Nucks with Edler, Ehrhoff, Salo, Bieksa and the way SOB has played lately he gives you a solid number 5 guy. Most teams don’t really play their 6th D man anyway.

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by Section 312 on Apr 28, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was watching that, and laughed out loud.

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by eightyseven on Apr 28, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Calgary Flames legend Todd Hlusko

Is it wrong to invoke a ‘mutually exclusive terms’ clause here? There’s actually two: Calgary Flames Legend and Legend Todd Hlusko.

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by GAHHHHH! on Apr 28, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Venn diagram’d

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by tzunino on Apr 29, 2010 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, unsurprisingly, the Caps choked.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 28, 2010 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

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