Crucify Him!
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2010 1:44 AM PDT
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Is the image disturbing? Offensive? Well they used to crucify a lot of people back in the old days so relax. Nowadays it's reserved to Canuck players who absolutely poop the bed and become a hindrance to their team in the Stanley Cup playoffs. Andrew Alberts has been given a multitude of chances to fit in as a Canuck. Leniency has been shown to him by both Alain Vigneault and a few Canucks fans alike because he needed to adjust to the Canucks' system. Alberts himself admitted that he was having a hard time doing so.
However, when you take 4 minor penalties and one major in 2 playoff games the patience wears out. Andrew may have played his last game as a Canuck on Saturday night. 3 minor penalties, none of them excusable, in a 3-2 loss to the Kings in Game 2. Sure, the Canucks killed off all 3 penalties that AA took but that is not the point. That is extra energy exerted killing 6:00 worth of 5 on 4 that shouldn't be happening in the first place. Alberts was benched after his 3rd minor of the game. Rightfully so.
So, as was mentioned in the game thread...when is Aaron Rome ready? It can't be soon enough. Hell, I'll take Evan Oberg of Nolan Baumgartner over Alberts at this point. It's just so disappointing. AA has great size and his speed isn't terrible. He hits to kill which I can appreciate. But when a guy makes Ed Jovanovski look like Jere fucking Lehtinen we have a problem.
Alain Vigneault said post game that "he didn't think AA's penalties were all that good and that we'll see what happens next game." There shouldn't be a next game for Alberts.
Now..aside from that I wasn't a big fan of the too many men penalty in OT. That was a bit tight. The Canucks moved into a tight square in front of Luongo on that PK and paid for it. The point men and even Anze Kopitar for that matter were given too much time and space to make a play. Anyone making a big deal of the knob on Lou's stick? Well cut it out. Shit happens and that was unlucky. Luongo is looking pretty damned good to me.
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LUONGO’S KNOB!!!!! It’s beyond a freakin’ joke now. It’s time to circumcise Luongos knob!
LOL
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Lu
Lu looked REALLY good from where I was sitting (300 level mind u). He was the only thing that kept this game close. I don’t understand why anybody would suggest he didn’t play well, he had no chance on both regulation goals and the PK has been giving them the Kings PP so much space, it was bound to happen. I am going to continue to preach that Lu is back.
Quick on the other hand, was shaky, and we did not capitalize. Aside from Ol Sammy scaring the crap out of him, we really didnt’ give him much. They just didn’t seem to create many opportunities tonight.
From now on, anybody who isn’t a Swedish forward shouldn’t be allowed to make a pretty play. Dump. Chase, Pass, Shoot, Crash the damn net. There is a boy pretending to be a man in front of the LA net, and we need to give him some life lessons.
I have nothing else to say about AA, but lets not forget, it was Salo who blew a tire on the second goal. We could use some fine tuning on d, which is still our biggest weakness.
Oh, and staying on the ice helpe (sorry, couldn’t help it).
The reffing was lopsided, but regarldess, this win was definitely attainable, we just didnt’ pepper Quick with shots. I’d much rather focus on things we can control.
Sam
Quick on the other hand, was shaky, and we did not capitalize. Aside from Ol Sammy scaring the crap out of him, we really didnt’ give him much. They just didn’t seem to create many opportunities tonight.
Agreed. Once the Kings got the momentum they didn’t relent. Vancouver literally fell asleep at the wheel IMO.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 18, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Burrows has been hustling and playing great on the penalty kill. The PK isn’t great because it’s often tired as a result of Alberts but it’s rarely the Burrows/Kesler tandem that looks bad.
Grabner’s ice time is far too limited, a lot of times in favor of the slow, awful melodramatic shifts of Pavol Demitra.
it will eventually. He keeps working hard and getting those chances, the goals will come.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Apr 19, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
The PK definitely got in too tight in OT, but the Kings did an excellent job of moving the puck and getting the defenders out of position. Have to give credit where credit is due, the Kings showed good patience and puck movement on their PP, and that’s exactly what you need to be successful.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 18, 2010 3:04 AM PDT reply actions
Is it too early
to call this yet another fail by Gillis?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Don’t look for opportunities to “crucify” the canucks and management. No need for bandwagon jumpers on the first lost of postseason.
bandwagon jumper?
Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Hardly
one game that Alberts has been a fail, he’s looked lost the majority of his time as a Canuck.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Hardly
one game that Alberts has been a fail, he’s looked lost the majority of his time as a Canuck.
Agreed. Alberts might as well hang up his jersey.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 18, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah good ol yoata…u so love to feel superior by bashing canucks management every time there’s an acquisition isnt a superstar. It’s not like burke never made a trade full of fail. And please, asking the guy how old he is for making a band wagon comment makes you sound like the kid. To anyone who doesn’t know what a condescending complainer you are every day, you would completely sound like a band wagon jumper. Lighten up.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
heh
don’t blame me if you can’t do the simple math that says Alberts = Fail means that Gillis acquisition of him at the deadline = Fail.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Just out of curiosity
how old are you?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
This is where I’ll agree with you yoata. This is definitely a fail by Gillis. And it’s starting to be a fail by AV by keeping him on the ice.
There will always be acquisition fails. No matter who is making them…sometimes chemistry isn’t there. Of course, we all wanted to crucify SOB last year, and this year we’re all happy with his improvement, so who says a bad defenceman with the iq of a tree can’t get better?
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
Of course, let me add, I’m the first guy to say this was gillis’ worst acquisition so far, and i’d love to see him benched and traded for a new skate sharpener and a bag of pucks next season. Just saying even penalty whores do have the capability to improve.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
Oh
so what you’re saying is that this was a fail by Gillis.
After all the personal rhetoric towards me for saying so…
Typical.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
It’s a fail but an unforeseen fail. And AV has played him plenty to give him every chance to play out of his funk. He gets that because he arrived here in March.
I do believe the trial is over though.
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
all fails are unforeseen Sean, but that’s Gillis’ job, to foresee, anticipate needs and abilities of those he chooses to fill them.
And I think it’s pretty clear based on all of that which he has done in almost 2 years… only Samuellson and Erhoff (who fell in his lap) not being fails… that he’s really not very good at it.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I would have foreseen Alberts as a solid, mean addition. You can’t predict that he’s going to turn out into a meathead. That’s not fair. There are no crystal balls.
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 19, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on Yo.
I was actually excited to see the signing. A big body presence on the back end seemed to be what we needed and by all reports he seemed like a decent stopgap.
Nobody could have anticipated that he was allergic to Canuck uniforms.
We have him for one more year. He has been clusterfuck up til this point and hope not to see him return this season. But at the same time, I am willing to give him a clean slate for next year in training camp to see if he can redeem himself and make whatever adjustments he needs to make over the summer.
Just keep him hidden until September is all I ask.
Can't watch the thinkspeak. Always sarcastic, barely ever mean. Just me.
I'm not saying
every move made should be a guaranteed success, far from it, what I am saying is that by far the most important aspect of the GM’s job is assembling the roster, and especially on a supposed contending team, filling the holes.
And I think by any objective analysis of Gillis’ acquisitions, the vast majority have been failures, some or all may have looked good at the time, but that’s irrelevant, what matters is the result, and his roster moves have not had very good results to say the least.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
At least its easy to identify the problems,
1. PK needs to be better straight up
2. Discipline. I imagine the removal of Alberts from the lineup will help a lot. The Canucks have dominated 5 on 5 and the only goal the Kings have scored at 5 on 5 was on a 3 on 1.
3. Less fancy play more hitting the net. I love you Hank and Dank but if there are 4 minutes left in the 3rd period of a tie game and you are on a two on one…make sure you take a shot!
Doesn’t sitting Alberts depend a bit on whether or not Rome is ready? He would never have been in the lineup if Rome was not injured. Alberts is at best their 7th d.
I tend to worry more than other Canucks fans, but last night’s game really reminded me of last year’s series vs the Blackhawks. Blown lead, neutralized Sedins, and a tough time keeping pace with what seemed last night to be a faster team. The Kings really controlled the game from about halfway through the first.
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
Wouldn’t you take Baumgartner over Andrews at this point?
by Vancouverguy on Apr 18, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Baumer must have done something pretty bad to not be playing. No seriously, Nolan is with the team as a black ace. If Rome isn’t ready for game 3 I think there is a good chance he plays
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Assuming the Moose get bounced by Hamilton, is there anyone but Oberg to call upon? Nycholat, Funk and Lukowich are all out. I think that leaves Oberg, McIver and Ellington?
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
by ThomasPratt on Apr 18, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s about right, Thomas. I like Oberg. I really miss Luko. That scenario really didn’t pan out. He’d be a perfect fit for the Canucks right now.
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
I still don’t get sending Luko back down and bringing in Alberts.
Also, ya’ll know that Alberts is signed through next year, right?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Apr 19, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Alberts is a fucking pylon.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 18, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
Here’s what he said post game 1:
“That is why I am here, that is the way they want me playing, physical against everybody I am out there against. It’s not like I am out there running around like an idiot.”
Then game 2 happened
clearly alberts is not used to playing games that matter
or in front of fans who care. i’m also not ruling out the possibility that he is developmentally challenged, but whatever the underlying causes he very obviously doesn’t have the speed, skills, mental toughness or decision making to play for the canucks.
didn’t anyone actually scout the guy before they traded for him?
He's too slow
for the West.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
lol awesome.
Alberts does not belong in the West.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 18, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what to say about Alberts that hasn’t been said before. He’s one of those players that doesn’t play with all the skillsets he has. There are lot’s like him. Crucify him? Of course not, he just has to work hard at practice and develop and play smarter.
Is it a disease if you can't go more than one day without 'Nuck news?...even in the summer?
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 18, 2010 9:39 PM PDT reply actions
Wait a minute, weren’t we having these discussions in the regular season? Disregard my previous comment.
Is it a disease if you can't go more than one day without 'Nuck news?...even in the summer?
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 18, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
PS – Nobody ever asks how old I am……….
Is it a disease if you can't go more than one day without 'Nuck news?...even in the summer?
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 18, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
So shifty, how old are you?
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Apr 18, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame AV more than Alberts. Alberts should be sheltered, you’re playing at home with last change, that last penalty he took was on Kopitar. Is anyone but Vigneault surprised?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Apr 19, 2010 9:09 AM PDT reply actions
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