Know your Enemy: The Kings Offense
Another day, another MSM/blog/Twitter-fueled whirlwind of predictions or just wild speculation for every playoff match. I couldn't keep track of all the ones for Vancouver and Los Angeles, though I do remember that Bob McKenzie is playing the part of Maggie the Monkey this year whereas EA Sports has Vancouver winning in five and going to the conference finals (only to lose to Chicago).
In fact I literally just watched NHL On The Fly and they informed me the Canucks won the season series over LA 4-0. Zoinks!
Anywho, we've already looked at the gentlemen on the blueline and in net, so let's go around the horn and finish up with the forwards. Some general numbers to chew on before the jump (g/t LA Kings Insider):
- Points At Home - Kings 50 (tie 17th); Canucks 63 (2nd)
- Points On The Road - Kings 51 (tie 2nd); Canucks 40 (17th)
- Goal Leaders - Kings: Anze Kopitar, 34; Canucks: Alex Burrows, 35
- Assist Leaders - Kings: Anze Kopitar, 47; Canucks: Henrik Sedin, 83
- Point Leaders - Kings: Anze Kopitar: 81; Canucks: Henrik Sedin, 112
After a one season absence, Captain Canada or whatever the hell we're supposed to call the guy who ignores mirrors makes a return to the post season. Traded for Kyle Quincey last summer, the trade has worked out pretty well for both sides: Avs got a young blueliner playing 24 minutes (booo) and the Kings get a veteran winger for their top line and PP. Smyth doesn't have the best shot, but makes his money pestering the goalie and pouncing on rebounds; he'll be one of a few guys that SOB, Bieksa and the rest will need to destroy to clear out of Luongo's crease. Smyth's 53 points are his worst since 2001-2002 and, against Vancouver, he had two assists, two PIMs and was +2. Note half his goals came on the man advantage...that's probably important to remember.
Selected one slot back from Luc Bourdon in 2005, many fans have wondered what could have been had we selected Kopitar instead (no offense whatsoever to the late Bourdon). The first Slovenean to play in the NHL has lead the Kings in points for three of his four seasons; this year he set career highs in points and lead the team in ESG, PPG and even sees limited time on the PK. Against the Canucks he had three points (1G, 2A) and was +3 and, if you check out BoC, guess who had the job shutting him down most of the season? I could go on but you get the deal: he's offensive threat #1 and, judging from his photo, he's also shocked that the Kings didn't suck ass again this year.
You may have last noticed Mr. Williams back in 2006 when his third period goal in game seven of the SCF sent the Oilers home with nothing to show for their 8th seed run. Since then he has bounced around between a few teams and suffered a handful of severe injuries, including a broken leg that caused him to miss a chunk of this season. He had one goal against the Canucks this year, but because of his injury his numbers are far off his career bests. That didn't stop him from taking an decent amount of PIMs however.
And a bonus? His wife's name is Kelly. Just sayin'.
Wait, I thought the Kings traded him already? Malkin no? Some in the media crucify Frolov for being a...wait for it...enigmatic Ruskie. He's got good size, great vision and can add some highlight reel goals. But this season is the fourth straight his production has declined (2G, 1A, -3 against Vancouver). His 19 goals are the fewest since his rookie year. His ATOI has dipped down almost 90 seconds less than last year, his shooting percentage is off 8% from last year, he lost his slot on the first line and has more than once been nailed to the bench during tight third periods. So, other than that, a hell of a guy.
Rachel Hunter's Katie Cassidy's James Brolin's manboy arm candy gives the Kings a tough, two way pivot who is coming off the second best season of his career (1G, 2A with four PIMs against the Canucks). He's another guy who can play in a number of situations, but perhaps his key strength is leading the Kings in faceoffs won which isn't surprising since he holds the Oilers faceoffs record for a single game (21 of 22 faceoffs - 95.45% - against, yup, Vancouver, back in 2006). Because of his strong two-way play, he'll be a general pain to deal with, especially if he runs up against the Sedin or Kesler lines.
Brown was the principal beneficiary of the 8-3 meltdown as he added a trick and an assist in his career high four point endeavor. He's slightly off his mark for career bests (3G, 1A, -4 against Vancouver this year), but probably more encouraging was that his -8 was a career best and 41 PIMs was his second fewest. You know what you get with a guy like Brown: high risk, high reward, all energy. He leads the Kings in takeaways (39), giveaways (79) and hits (287); for comparison, the Canucks hits leader Tanner Glass has 165. Along with Frolov and Stoll, the Kings second line has their best down the stretch and will give the Canucks D plenty of headaches.
But I don't care if Brown cures cancer one day: he's a puke.
Handzus (also responds to Zeus or Trap Jaw if you prefer) is freakishly consistent and centers a third line that - on paper - is much better than Vancouver's. Handzus is a solid two way player who, along with Doughty, leads the team in defensive zone starts (which helps explain his poor Corsi) and leads all forwards in blocked shots (62). He's a big (albeit slow) guy who's reach will be a pain for Vancouver skaters, but with 42 points (the same as he had last season) he's a offensive threat too. 20 goals is his best output in over five seasons. He added one goal and was -1 in four games against the Canucks this year.
A former Cup winner with the Lightning, you could view Modin like many view Demitra: both are sunsetting (one could argue very quickly), both are prone to injuries and both are probably paid too much. Modin is a good player in his own zone, but has a bevy of injuries (knee and foot injuries robbed him of half a season this year) that relegates him to third line duties with Los Angeles, who picked him up at the trade deadline. He has no points and is a -2 against Vancouver this year, but despite the negatives, Modin's big with a decent slap shot and could end up being a game changer (son of a bitch, same as Demitra!).
Simmonds - the Kings millionth playoff newbie - is called Simmer by his teammates because they aren't creative enough or Juice was taken. Drafted in the second round in 2007, Simmonds is an energetic guy and very much a fan favorite because he leaves it all out on the ice: big guy, works hard, the type of player most teams would like a few of. In just his second season, he recorded career bests across the board and had 1G with a +2 against Vancouver this year. He's the Kings +/- leader and also second on the team in PIMs. Could easily be an under the radar-type guy that comes through to haunt Vancouver.
Another deadline pick up (deadline pick up? what's that?), Halpern is another guy well off his career bests from several years ago with the Caps, but plays a strong defensive game and is handy on the PK. He has one assist and is +1 this year against the Canucks. He's also a dead ringer for Zachary Ty Bryan, so all Home Improvement bunnies be on alert.
In his rookie year, Rich Clune has never played Vancouver and only started playing with the Kings in early February. Reports describe him as having good energy and probably falling on a little bit of the pest side, but he doesn't bring much more to the table after that, especially in the size and offense departments. Ho hum...hey, his last name is also the first name of Australian women. There you go buddy, it wasn't easy but I made you sound interesting.
The lovechild of Brad Richards and Luke Richardson (go ahead, prove me wrong), Brad Richardson was pointless and a +1 against the Canucks this season. Yet considering his career was damn near dead in the water, a rebound year with 27 points (and four game winners) is pretty damn good for a plugger eating up around 12 minutes a game. A smaller guy, Richardson is good at faceoffs and see's some time on the PK.
It's possible Raitis will play (yup, he will) and though he's huge and intimidating, we should hope gets plenty of TOI; not only does he lead the team in PIMs but he's pointless in 61 games which jumps out a bit if you bother to scan to the 28th page of the NHL scoring stats. But I didn't say that because I don't want him angry at me. You learned this all from someone else...like Coldplay. Yes, you learned Ivanans is a joke from Coldplay. Please tell him that.
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PP is good, so have to stay out of the box, but Lu needs to come up big when they do take penalties. Kesler needs to be on Kopitar like a nipple piercing, dropoff is big after him.
Doughty will be a force if they let him, he looked nervous the first couple games in the Olys but really settled in after that so they need to get to him early and keep the pressure on, but keep him away from the puck amap, throw it in Jack Johnson’s corner amap.
Also need to win both games at home, with their road record if they go into LA even things could get ugly quick.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Their third line is hysterically better than ours.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 13, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
And our first line is hysterically better than theirs. Which one would you pick?
Is it a disease if you can't go more than one day without 'Nuck news?...even in the summer?
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 13, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
If offered a swap of all 15 forwards for each team...
…I take the Canucks without even thinking for a second.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
Okay, depth is good. But do you think that kind of team would go far in the playoffs without a great first line? Raymond and Wellwood grew on me, they’re not bad either, over on CDC they got a video of Gillis praising Wellwood for the job he’s done post-Olympic wise.
Is it a disease if you can't go more than one day without 'Nuck news?...even in the summer?
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 14, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
He leads the Kings in takeaways (39), giveaways (79) and hits (287); for comparison, the Canucks hits leader Tanner Glass has 165
Isn’t LA’s building notoriously liberal with the hit counter?
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
Exactly what I was thinking
I don’t trust the “hits” numbers in any of the non-traditional hockey markets. They’re all inflated.
by east_van_joe on Apr 13, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Good question, I honestly don’t know.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 13, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t trust the "hits" numbers in any of the non-traditional hockey markets. They’re all inflated.
Hahaha
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
Remember that for subjective statistics like hits, we use the away data since it mostly eliminates the bias shown by home scorers.
http://www.behindthenethockey.com/2010/3/26/1378913/2009-10-hit-leaders
In that respect, tnen Matt Greene pops to the top.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 14, 2010 5:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Let’s not count hits! They’re too subjective, just like assists! Abolish the Stat!
/end sarcasm/ Here’s to you, Mr. Kelly McParland.
by Vancouverguy on Apr 14, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m very interested to see Greene in action.
by Passive Voice on Apr 14, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
anyone else in front of their tv right now?
RSN is showing “Road Warriors” right now, a look back at the Canucks 14-game road trip, just a couple minutes in.
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GO CANUCKS GO!
Yeah I watched that, good job.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Another deadline pick up (deadline pick up? what’s that?)
It’s that thing where gillis rents us a pylon for the end of the season and playoffs.
Clune sounds less like an australian womans name and more like maybe an australian woman’s body part… Just sayin…
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"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
Simmonds is apparently also called the Midnight Meat Train.
Dont look at me, ask Bob McKenzie, he’s the one who I heard it from.
Also, I can call him the Midnight Meat Train because I am black (no really, I am. I know, crazy, a black hockey fan).
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:13 PM PDT reply actions
Or at least I can find the moniker more amusing.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
We got you, Lil’ Wayne and Lil’ Jon.
Now all we need is to rope in Jay-Z to watch the Rangers.
(cranks "The Black Album)
HOV
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
My diamonds are in the sky.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa whoa whoa whoa… did Bob McKenzie actually call Wayne Simmonds “Midnight Meat Train,” because if he did I may need to update my obituary.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
He did, it was an article he wrote for TSN.com about a month ago.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Im trying to find the link but coming up fruitless.
Perhaps disregard my connection of this moniker to McKenzie, until I have evidence. First rule of writing, gotta have evidence and sources.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
BRING IT ON MOTHAFUCKA
ANYTIME ANYPLACE
THAT UNGRATEFUL SON OF A BITCH COULDN’T EVEN SPELL HOCKEY BEFORE HE MET ME.
AND YOU WILL KNOW I AM THE LORD, WHEN I LAY MY VENGEANCE UPON THEE.
Damn I might have to go watch some Pulp Fiction today.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 14, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Anze Kopitar:
Hahaha, that’s not a name, that’s just a series of sounds.
Nice prank fellas, no such real person exists. “Anze Kopitar”, honestly.
FYI-Justin Williams above looks like a douchey boyfriend on “General Hospital”.
OH GOD TSN fail
MacTavish was talking about Vancouver’s offensive depth and mentioned Rypper and Hordi.
RYPPER. AND HORDI.
I think I know why he was fired, he is fucking braindead.
Sorry about the swearing.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:41 PM PDT reply actions
This was on Sportscentre BTW.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
MacT coached the Oilers for many years, and watched his big boy Stortini get beat down by Rypper.
’Nuff said.
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no fair enough. MacT is fucking braindead. Don’t apologize for swearing.
by Sean Zandberg on Apr 14, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
they’d make a baller scoring line in Victoria
by Passive Voice on Apr 13, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
the swearing is fine here. just not at certain other places.
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The LA message board.
Is that the kiss of death though? When our depth is the rypper and hordichuk? Good thing it was MacT who said it, because then we know it isn’t true. If it was someone more trustworthy like Mackenzie who mentioned rypper and Hordi as our depth guys… we’re screwed.
I still like our chances with Kesler’s line versus the Kopitar line.
I also wonder how their 3rd line handles Grabby/MayRay’s speed. Maybe Wellwood can contribute by eating all the LA King’s lunches.
by Vancouverguy on Apr 14, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
"the swearing is fine here. just not at certain other places."
I learnt that rule firsthand at the Vatican and Eddie Shore’s funeral.
This collection of pictures is hilarious.
-Ryan “Owen Wilson” Smyth
-Anze “Frankenstein’s ‘Oh’-Face” Kopitar
-Justin “Cock” Williams
-Dustin “Laughing Toddler” Brown
-Michael “Schnoz” Handzus
-Fredrik “Jack Black” Modin
-Raitis “28 Days Later” Ivanans.
also, Simmonds is definitely whistling at passing talent.
by Passive Voice on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Crosby has the best O Face
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 13, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me of Braveheart.
THEY MAY TAKE OUR LUMBER AND FRESH WATER.
BUT THEY’LL NEVER TAKE….OUR HOCKEY!!!!!
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
and
Southern fist
Rise through tha jungle mist
Clenched to smash power so cancerous
A black flag and a red star
A rising sun loomin’ over Los Angeles
‘Cause for Raza livin in La La
Is like Gaza on to tha dawn of Intifada
Reach for tha lessons tha masked pass on
And seize tha metropolis
It’s you that it’s built on
Everything can change on a new years day
As everything changed on new years day
Everything can change on a new years day
As everything changed on new years day
War within a breath…
Thanks for doing these :) Is there gonna be some kind of ‘Know Thyself’ equivalent? Or at least how our players stack up against the Kings (as in player x has y goals, z assists like you’ve done above). (That said I feel like there’s something like that online, how each team does against another, although if there is I have no idea where).
Reading this thread made me chuckle lots, there are lots of talented people wasting their time ;) The “Anze Kopitar” was pretty good. But seriously, from reading what everybody has to say, nobody’s really worried about the kings. Is it a fair assumption to say that we’re confident in advancing to the semifinals? Or is it that there’s no way the Kings can win four games? Thoughts?
Is it a disease if you can't go more than one day without 'Nuck news?...even in the summer?
by My Landed Immigrant status just expired! on Apr 14, 2010 8:43 AM PDT reply actions
I’d say everyone is in good mood cos the playoffs are here. Are we overconfident? Perhaps. But I sure know the team isn’t cos of the whupping we got from the kings and teams we had no business losing to in the last two months. in other words, that the team is UNcomfortable gives US comfort that we can chill up till game time.
by nucklinBadger on Apr 14, 2010 9:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Smyth’s 53 points are his worst since 2001-2002
Injury explains that…why he never notices that schnoz needs to be fixed remains a mystery.
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I mean, he’s in LA. You’re telling me in one afternoon he can’t get the nose fixed and a haircut? Or do salons just slam their doors shut when they see him coming?
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 14, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously. I call him “Mecha-Streisand.”
BTW, I don’t know if you guys could help me out, or if I should make a fan post here or something — I’m heading up from Seattle to your fair city for both games and I would welcome any advice about good places to eat around the arena, etc. Oh, and I have a spare ticket to Game 1 because work is screwing over my beloved, as usual. I’d hate to see it go to waste.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
sure, try a fan post. I would think if you’re offering a ticket you may get a decent amount of responses.
Also check out our transplant map: we have a few users in seattle you can contact directly maybe.
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2010/4/13/1419348/you-wanted-it-you-got-it
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 14, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Simmonds is not close to being a “big guy”, he’s actually quite slight for a hockey player (more of a basketball build). He’s like their version of MayRay. Still very young though and has time to fill out.
Poutine & Meatballs
“Big” by height and thus by reach is more what I was getting at. The other guys on the third line are both 6’4’’.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 14, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha, we just have different definitions I guess. I’d personally call him ‘lanky’ or ‘rangy’ to define your description.
Poutine & Meatballs
Simmonds is weird; he’s pretty lanky but he knows how to use his body and he’s not afraid to fight. He’s grittier than Raymond. There’s a reason the kid’s nicknamed Meat Train.
Oh, and the Kings are switching things up, putting Brad Richardson with Handzus and Simmonds. I think they’re planning on using Rich and Meat’s speed on the wings while Zeus lumbers in behind them.
Oh, and Ivanans is playing tomorrow night. I hate my life.
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Ivanans is playing tomorrow night
And Hordichuk has been sitting in favor of Pettinger/Rypien/Bernier. While I would love to see Ryp take on Ivanans, I’m cool with him being dead weight and a general liability.
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by Yankee Canuck on Apr 14, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions

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