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The Canucks Are A Better Team Without Demo

there, i said it.  pavol demitra doesn't fit in with the rest of the guys out there, he always seems to be playing a different tune than the rest of his linemates.  kesler, raymond and grabner on the other hand have great chemistry together.  i thought they looked good at the beginning of the year and they looked very dangerous yesterday.  easily the fastest line in the entire nhl, and all three skate hard both directions.  grabner looks like he is on the verge of breaking out in the same way that raymond broke out this year.  what's it say that i'd rather have grabs out there than demo?  well it says i hope they don't resign demitra when his contract comes up, and wouldn't it be nice to have an excuse to keep him out of the lineup for remainder.

Star-divide

if the canucks go into the playoffs with last night's lineup, +samuelsson, -glass, +mitchell, -rome/obrien then i like our chances.  sadly i think we're stuck with our defense as it doesn't look good for willie, but this team has the best chance to go the distance since 1994.  and the best part is that the future is bright too, with core guys locked up and a pipeline of prospects for maybe the first time ever.

god, it's a good time to be a canucks fan.

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With Grabner playing the way he is…I’d rather see him in over Demo for sure. And like you said..Son of Sam is needed.

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Grabner has had plenty of chances to score but hasn’t finished on any of them since being called up. In four games he has one assist and is -3.

by Linden4evah on Mar 25, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would change if he had more time

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to worry

it will come.
Even with his misses he has more sniper in him than most of the rest of the team.

by Bobby Canuck on Mar 25, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

As Botchford said:
Can’t help but think Kesler has one hand tied behind his back playing with Demitra. Limits his speed game.

Demitra is a good player, there just doesn’t seem to be any chemistry with the guys here.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Mar 25, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

there was with Sundin, Demo and Kesler last year. But this RPM line is faster and better

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That line

…might have worked because it was never going to move as fast.

With MayRay on board, Kes can move as quick as he wants.

Darn, are we going to have a great training camp next year? Take this team, delete Demo and Welly from up front, and add in CoHo and Schroeder. That is going to be a treat to watch.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Mar 25, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt

very much Schroeder will be ready next year.

But Hansen should earn a regular spot.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Mar 25, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to see Hansen is a regular.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 25, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schroeder

Why I said “training camp”. :)

I like the thought of a Hansen-CoHo-Sammie line.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Mar 26, 2010 5:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think

that Sammy should be 3rd line.

The guy has 30+ goals, I like Grabner, but just because he’s “looked good” at times with Kes and Ray doesn’t mean he’s going to be as productive, especially right out of the gate.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Mar 26, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hansen-Hodgson-Sammuelsonn wouldn’t be a third line. I think they’d be a gread 2B kind of line (or if you buy into 1A/1B with the Kesler/Sedin lines, they’d be a second line…weird). Solid defense from Hansen and Hodgson and good scoring from Sammy and Hodgson.

by FlyingV on Mar 26, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any line

behind those top two ain’t gettin much ice time.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Mar 26, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hansen-Hodgson-Hordichuk. The Triple H line!

by marcness52 on Mar 29, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only H

Horridsuck belongs with is the one between the A and the L.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Mar 29, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol ya. We need to get another H player though.

by marcness52 on Mar 29, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Paul

HKariya?

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Mar 30, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hnat HDominicheli?

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Mar 30, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree with your post Bitter

I like the Grabs – MayRay comparison. Definite similarities there. If his hands can catch up to his feet the way Raymond has done, he will be a gem. Hope it happens sooner than later, cause he could be a great option in the playoffs. He was entertaining as hell last night.

This shold be Demo’s last year here too. He’ll need to take a paycut to stay here and I imagine the Rangers will have no problem finding a way to throw money at him next year to play with Gabby.

Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.

by kesrows on Mar 25, 2010 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

raymond has better hands but the thing that grabner has that raymond doesn’t is a wicked shot. seriously, if he starts settling down and aiming that laser correctly he will become a true sniper.

by bitterguy on Mar 25, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

Graber;s a better playmaker too.

Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair

by yoata on Mar 25, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

if the canucks go into the playoffs with last night’s lineup, +samuelsson, -glass, +mitchell, -rome/obrien then i like our chances.

I agree with the stance on Demo and Grabs-Mase comparison, but I feel that I gotta stand up for Glass and SOB/Rome here.

Glass is the kind of player they’re gonna need in the playoffs to crash and bang, I’d much rather have him out there than Hordi and maybe even Rypper. SOB has been very serviceable since taking on a top 4 role, I think he can play a solid #5 role in the playoffs. Rome as the 6th man is fine with me. I really think Mitchell is nearly done for the season, he still hasn’t even been able to get on a bike yet let alone play high-level hockey.

The beauty of it all is that they have a wealth of depth should someone go down to injury in the next 2-2.5 months. They may be one of the deepest teams going into the playoffs.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Mar 25, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

My D pairs for playoffs if healthy

Mitchell-Bieksa
Salo-Ehrhoff
SOB-Edler

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Mar 25, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The sacariest part for me is:

1) I don’t see Mitchell back this year. Meaning Rome subs in (I’m ok with this part).

2) Spare parts Salo goes down ( i know…so unlikely), Alberts draws in.

So really, #2 is the part which could cause me to wake up in the middle of the night with cold sweats and a peed bed.

Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.

by kesrows on Mar 25, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baumer is still up with the club too, I’d rather have him than Alberts right now. I think it’ll depend on the opponent though.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Mar 25, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooops

Thanks cyx

Totally forgot about Baumer. It helps

Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.

by kesrows on Mar 25, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baumer looked awful in his last stint here. He looks just as bad as Alberts did. Where’s Lukowich when you need him?

by marcness52 on Mar 29, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where’s Lukowich when you need him?

Recovering from shoulder surgery…

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Mar 29, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s too bad. We really need him right now.

by marcness52 on Mar 29, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree about the depth.

I like bitter’s post too, but have to side with cyxj on some love for Glass, SOB and Rome.

Rome gets better the more he plays. He is a wonderful spending of 500,000 and a waiver wire pickup. He is not Willie, of course, but has totally been a good move.

SOB …what can you say. Keep playing that simple game, and stop overthinking ( not your strong suit SOB )…he can be a very useful d’man when he does that. I have less worries about him this year in the dance than I would have last year. His game has grown a lot in the past season.

Man, if Glass had better hands, he could really be dangerous. But he is good at bang and crash, and will add to the 4th line instead of the 3rd soon.

I am interested who gets called up when they expand the roster for the playoffs. Guys like Cody when his playoffs are done? Just for the experience? Who else is a Black Ace?

I agree too, that Willie is done. Its too bad. But with a team that can score more, and from more places, that D’ deficiency does not look so bad.

"I’m not asking for first-line money or top six money," Burrows said. "I don’t think it changes anything. I still consider myself a checker. That’s what I think I am first. That’s how I want to be paid. "If I can generate offence once in a while, I think it’s a plus for the team." Alex Burrows...Mar/09

by vancitydan on Mar 25, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say keep demo at a cheaper rate and bring in some cheap Slovak’s to round out his line (3rd), even if they’re shithouse i reckon he’ll elevate his game to play on a line with them.

by AdelaideNuck on Mar 25, 2010 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Demo should be playing on the third line this year already. I disagree with AV putting him on line 2. I’d match him with Welly and then he’d be fresh for the PP where his passing is a big asset.

by Linden4evah on Mar 25, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but even Demo isn’t let go this summer I’m gonna riot.

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm, looks like i need to practise my sarcastic posts a little!

by AdelaideNuck on Mar 25, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry Adelaide, I got it…it was pretty subtle tho…

"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows

by GAHHHHH! on Mar 25, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

my sarca-meter broke. Sorry, AdelaideNuck!

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously, you need the Sarcasmatron™.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Mar 28, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t see him getting another contract either. Even at a vastly reduced rate he isn’t very likely to play half the season. We have a few players in the minors that should fill the ranks (I hope!). All eyes are on HodGson, Grabner and Schroeder but what about Shirokov?

by Linden4evah on Mar 25, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

With Demo being a former client and professing his love for Vancouver before he signed here I’d say anything is possible.
Are there any people on here that have watched Moose games this year? I’ve seen a couple and I’m not so impressed with Shirokov. Can anyone give a better insight on him?

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

This highlights one of the problems with the ‘nuckosphere, we really don’t have anybody covering prospects very well, so it’s damn hard to get a good read on how good the guys on the Moose are, or even how well our picks are doing.

by rsm on Mar 26, 2010 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Move the Moose to Victoria and that problem goes away!

The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.

by casual on Mar 26, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bah. Swap the Moose and the Heat. ’Nuck farmhands in Abby, and baby Flames out of BC.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Mar 28, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was thinking that myself this morning.

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by missy on Mar 28, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The arena is only half full for home games, except for when the Moose visit. Fans don’t want to support other NHL team’s prospects.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Mar 28, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Methinks Demo will go to the Rangers.

Makes sense, he plays well with Gabby, Rangers love signing old guys to ballin’ contracts.
CBJ beat the Hawsk 8-3 tonight (I couldnt believe it when I saw the final score), and there is only one comment on the Game Thread. How is this possible?

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 25, 2010 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

your link goes to a canadian artists for haiti video. Intentional?

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t even make a joke about this. I could, but I won’t.

Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.

by kesrows on Mar 25, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck my life.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 25, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I r fail.

I’ll just commit Hara Kiri/Seppuku now.

Link here.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 25, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

1500+ comments in the game thread at Second City Hockey.
Wow. Columbus fans are outta there heh?

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I took a peek over there. Pardon me for giggling a little,

Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.

by kesrows on Mar 25, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet jesus, 1501 comments.

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 25, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel sorry for Nash, he’ll never win there.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Mar 25, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he's not going anywhere.

Unless T.O. trades their draft picks for him.

Oh wait, they don’t have those anymore?

"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan

by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 25, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously. It’s like the Rangers is our Old Folks Home.

by marcness52 on Mar 29, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sharks up 2-0 on Dallas, getting their shit back together

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 25, 2010 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

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