Wings 4 Canucks 3: Stats, Stats...Rats
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 12:26 AM PDT
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Call it a close game? It could have gone to shootout instead. In the end, Detroit was that much more hungry and let's face it: they HAD TO BE. This win put them 2 points ahead of the Flames for 8th spot in the West. This was their game in hand over Calgary. Vancouver, now still an impressive 26-8-2 at home this season is 6 points up on Colorado and 4 points behind San Jose in the West. I guess the lead over Colorado is what matters most, unless you have a preference over who they may play in round 1 of the playoffs. I don't have a preference at this point because there is obviously too many games and possibilities left. Plus I believe we have a team that can take on all comers.
This game had comeback written all over it. The Wings outshot the Canucks 17-8 in the first period yet trailed 2-0. They were outshooting the Canucks badly again in the 2nd and scored 3 goals in 5 minutes between the 12:34 and 17:39 mark. The Canucks were starting to come on as time went along.
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2 of those goals came in 5 seconds of each other to set a new Wings' record by 2 seconds. Sure, you want to start putting blame on Roberto Luongo at that point but...
-he had almost faced a typical game's worth of shots by that point and by the Canucks' usual standards.
-Lou said post game: "What is there to talk about," Luongo asked. "Datsyuk used our 'D' as a screen and I couldn't find it right away and obviously he put it in the corner." - that in reference to the tying goal.
It was more Kevin Bieksa and Pavol Demitra that took hits after this loss:
On the wacky Bertuzzi goal that made the game 2-1 Alexandre Burrows said: "Juice [Bieksa] couldn't find it and they got the momentum there," Alex Burrows said. "It kind of kills the momentum, kills the crowd." Wings got the bounce there.
Pavol Demitra drew a bit of ire from coach AV on the OT goal: "Ehrhoff didn't have his stick and I thought Pavol [Demitra] should have come in there a little bit to help with the amount of time that was left," Vigneault said. "He didn't and the puck ended up in the back of our net."
Vigneault is referring to this:
Sure, Demo could have gotten a stick in there, but he was taking away Zetterberg's passing play. Ehrhoff is the guy behind Z without a stick. Bah I say! How about Kevin Bieksa screening Luongo there? Lou never saw it.
In the end, this graphic matters most:
Could have been a lot worse. I'll take the loser point. Hell the Canucks don't have enough of those!
Random:
-Ryan Kesler, Alex Edler and Demitra all finished a -2 and no points yet had 10 shots combined.
-Dank, Hank and Shane O'Brien were the only Canucks to finish in the PLUS category. SOB had a goal and an assist and a +2 rating. He also played 23:25...the 2nd most ice time of any Canucks d-man. Way to go OB!
-Rick Rypien played 3:58. Darcy Hordichuk played 4:11. Yeah I know there are no goons on Detroit's roster...so what's the point of dressing these guys? See the boxscore below on how Detroit spreads out their ice times.
-Zetterberg led all players with a +3 rating
-Johan Franzen led all players with 7 shots.
-Filppula and Zetterberg led all players with 3 points each. Damn that shorty by Filppula. Damn it!
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I went to watch Norm Macdonald instead of this game. He’s triple-check-plus outstanding. I think this was the result I wanted though; we get a sympathy point and Calgary falls two points outta the ploffs. A Detroit-Chicago first round would be incredible.
Definitely an edge walker, him. I find about half his stuff brilliant (the roast of Bob Saget was one of those) a quarter okay and another quarter cringe-inducing. A pretty good mix.
he went on a 10-minute diatribe about how, if he were to kill a lady, he would go about it. he also used the word “retarded” like 300 times, and towards the end of the show was like "oh, by the way, when I say “retarded”, i mean, like, you know, people with down’s syndrome, not stupid people". then he talked for five minutes about how he wanted a “retard” for a friend.
by Passive Voice on Mar 21, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny, I read that and instantly thought you meant the comedian and u went to his stand up show instead of watched the game. I was like “how does this have any bearing on the conversation”. Followed quickly by “ohhhhh! *snicker…”
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
wait, yeah, that is what i meant. he was in kelowna last night.
by Passive Voice on Mar 21, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn. We said we’d get Welly the butter chicken, yet we lost. I don’t figure the boss will be paying for this one.
Finding a good dog is easy.
I don't know shit about the rest.
He must have known MYD…he played like he was hungry for something!
"I’m not asking for first-line money or top six money," Burrows said. "I don’t think it changes anything. I still consider myself a checker. That’s what I think I am first. That’s how I want to be paid. "If I can generate offence once in a while, I think it’s a plus for the team." Alex Burrows...Mar/09
Reuse OTP for Canucks
-Rick Rypien played 3:58. Darcy Hordichuk played 4:11. Yeah I know there are no goons on Detroit’s roster…so what’s the point of dressing these guys?
Bang on Sean. I haven’t got around that point, it’s like, “if they play nice, we’ll play nice too, and it’s ok if we lose.” Really AV?
Winning is a habit, Wings got this one by habit when we decided to nod off for half a minute in the second. AV should find ask Pat O’Neil if are any of those Olympic podiums still lying around, put it between the dressing room and the ice, and point out to our boys that the TOP OF THE PODIUM at the end of June, is the ONLY acceptable landing spot.
OWN THE PODiUM (dammit), whatever it takes (hit’em!), however long it takes (stay awake!), nowhere else, and nothing else (only the Cup will do).
Rypien actually had a pretty nice shift at one point I remember…
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
yes he did.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And we can be friends again…
Zetterberg (our Hank) led all players with 9 shots on goal
Filppula was also +3 and it was his birthday
The Canucks were 3-1 (scored 3, allowed 1) when outshot by the Red Wings. The Red Wings were 3-0 when not outshooting the Canucks (all those 0% shots are why the Red Wings are 2nd in the league for shots taken and only 16th for goals scored)
The Detroit broadcast said 5 seconds is also a Canucks record. Not the kind you want, though. The league record is 3.
Can we please never see Alberts again? (my plan: let’s lock salo in a hyperbaric chamber and only let him out during game-time).
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 8:11 AM PDT reply actions
can we send Alberts to Manitoba? Just curious, maybe if he gets acquainted with the AV/Arniel system then he might improve? I mean, it’s chump change for NHL terms but he is getting paid +US$1million a year… to suck.
by nucklinBadger on Mar 21, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Wellwood’s become a warrior. Just took him about 6/8ths of the season to do it, but I’m mighty impressed with his grit and strength lately.
At least a couple of Grabner’s shots deserved to go in. Maybe that’ll happen soon. I think eventually it will happen.
I dunno if I would say it took Welly 6/8ths of the season. Maybe more like 15/20ths of the season.
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't that the same thing?
See, I can do numbers too! All that SFU learnin’ has done some good.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That was my point. Why Bobby didn’t go for 3/4, I have no idea!
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
More Infallible Lu
“What is there to talk about,” Luongo asked. “Datsyuk used our ‘D’ as a screen and I couldn’t find it right away and obviously he put it in the corner.”
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
True he’s being defensive here… but I think objectively he’s also right in this case. I wouldn’t place the blame on Lu for that one. It was a perfectly place screened backhand on a power move. This is not in the same calibre of comment as his “yeah my stats are shittier because of the team” one.
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait I was thinking about the OT goal. I retract that comment entirely.
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyway, yoats, you gotta agree with the point that if it weren’t for goaltending we would not have gotten a point out of the game, do you not? By the time we were up 2-0 we had already been outplayed, and we were outplayed for most parts of the game.
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I won't
blame a goaltender for a loss when he faces 50+, but, that doesn’t mean he should be incapable of blaming himself on a a goal (one of at least 2 in the game) that he should definitely have stopped.
Especially, and this is my main point in all of this, when he supposedly wears the C on this team.
Yet again he basically deflects the responsibility off of him self for whiffing on a 40 footer, onto the defenseman who did nothing but stay in front of his man as he is supposed to do.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Not that I want to make a huge deal out of it at this point because the Canucks kicks ass, but would Lou be more focused without the “C”? I mean, goalies are a weird breed.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't
even care about that as much as I care about who should be wearing the C and I just can’t see how it’s him. As far as his focus, he’s supposedly a highly paid pro, one of the best in the game, he should be able to get and maintain focus regardless.
Maybe it would mean he wouldn’t be as answerable to the media, which he seems uncomfortable with, but I don’t see how that fragile ego of his would take having it taken away any way but poorly, nor do I see that ego offering to give it up, but I hope I’m wrong.
To me Kes should be captain, Burr and maybe Salo alternates.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
nor do I see that ego offering to give it up, but I hope I’m wrong.
He won’t accept that. That’s like asking to get demoted at your job.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course, the best case scenario is he leads the team to a Cup and none of this ever matters.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Good things that’s what is going to happen. Right?
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Like pro players in any position don’t have an ego.
Let alone a goalie, who ALL do.
Luongo is the captain …so what?
Lets get a “thing” going to get Kes the C, instead of the A he already wears so well. The C on the goalie must be the problem!
His answer last night was obvious. He knew the question was coming.
He has been better with the media this year, but yoata hit on something with being “answerable” to the media.
Thats the problem. Answerable to them? They aren’t the story, the players are. The media have too much of a sense of entitlement and familiarity with the team already. The guy from PPP that said just swear and move along is good enough for me. Besides, I thought we mostly agreed that the media in this town are…lacking…right?
Goalies in Vancity just get that, I guess. The constant nitpicking at their game from people that never played the position, and just don’t get it. ( no…only a couple games and then later in floor hockey…that was enough for me. Tough as hell that job. Mentally too )
You don’t want any goal to get through, and your ego tells you you can stop everything.
I am certainly not going to nitpick a goalie either….that had 50+ shots. That last goal was a toughie, but they came back and got the point.
On to destroying the Oilers and moving forward.
"I’m not asking for first-line money or top six money," Burrows said. "I don’t think it changes anything. I still consider myself a checker. That’s what I think I am first. That’s how I want to be paid. "If I can generate offence once in a while, I think it’s a plus for the team." Alex Burrows...Mar/09
Yoata won’t be happy til Luongo comes out and says “I SUCK AS A GOALIE AND YOU PAY ME TOO MUCH”. Which of course will never happen. Which is what he wants, in the end.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
Been reading yoata’s posts for quite a while.
Yoata, I must say this: you are a complete douche, but I suppose you enjoy being one. That’s my observation as an outsider.
You're right.
I apologize for that pointless remark. I don’t know why I thought that would be appropriate here.
Sorry yoata. My level of hockey knowledge is much lesser than most people’s that post here, along with my seniority.
I will say this, though; I’ve learned more about hockey on this site in two months than I had watching it on tv the last 5 years. NM rocks.
Not to sound dickish, but athletes making $7 million per year lose my sympathy and their right to not answer to the media which is an outlet to the fans who pay for games and pour their emotions into their team
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody is giving Luongo sympathy here, but do you really expect any NHL player to come out and say “I’m sucking eggs”? The only time any pro athlete really takes all deserved blame on themselves beyond “I didn’t have a great game, end of story” is if they’ve done something utterly egregious, ie: the bertuzzi incident. This is the problem I have with the stance yoata so angrily and pettily takes. You guys expect something that just doesn’t happen. I wouldnt expect Ryan Kesler to come out and say “I suck and i’m overpaid this year” any more than Luongo does, should he have an off year.
I stand by the contention that Luongo’s statement about offensive style vs defensive style was not throwing anyone under the bus. But I’m starting to understand why yoata’s gonna think that: he hates the fact that luongo makes 7 million bux and that he’s the captain and looks for any reason possible to justify his anger. Nobody likes to admit they might be wrong in something.
You guys can wait all year long for Luongo to come out and say “I didn’t play my best this year” and it WILL NOT happen while the season’s on. And after the season it may or may not happen. Everybody here knows he’s not having his best season…dunno why some people feel the need to jump on their soapbox evertime he lets in a softie and bitch and moan about how he won’t accept responsibility. It’s ridiculous.
Since he’s been here, Luongo’s accepted responsibility when he’s had a bad game by being out on the ice for extra practice time afterwards. Why you expect him to fall apart before the media is a mystery to me.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
I don’t want him to “fall apart”. Just a little more honesty. I heard: “My numbers are as good this year because the team is playing a less conservative style”. I don’t like that excuse.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not trying to roast the guy. I have faith in him and the team still. Just don’t feed my horse shit because I won’t eat it
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I guess we won’t agree on this then; I don’t want or expect him to shout out a weakness for all to see during the season. Everybody knows it not JUST that, and I can’t think anyone on the team felt like he was blaming the team…just that it’s a different style and it is true what he says.
Part of why I tend to give the athletes the benefit of the doubt (and this holds true for anyone, not just luongo who is by far NOT my favorite canuck, which I’m sure everyone can tell from my posts) is that lots of conversations go on in the room that we just aren’t privy to. If you’ve ever been in a high level in anything you understand this. There are canned answers for the public, and there are internal discussions that we probably don’t want to hear and won’t.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
Absolutely. You know they talk about media answers behind closed doors or over beers. And that is probably the case here too. I don’t know for sure.
But that doesn’t make it right in a sense. Like I said: they be millionaires and we pay their cheques.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Fascinating discourse.
It does really come down to the public /private persona.
The ego of any player, not just a goalie when you think about it.
In the NHL, there are around 750-800 jobs.
Of those 60 are goalies, and less than half that #1s. In a game where millions play every year…and more and more from everywhere keep coming up through the ranks.
Of course you get an ego when you are that good.
But the change I have noticed in Bobby Luo this year is his sense of humour with some of the media types… most of the time…
Yep, they be millionaires.
But they had to be pretty good to get there….so…we may pay them, but they do entertain us.
So, it’s not like there is no quid pro quo.
And we demand the best. I get where that becomes the micro analysis of every action.
I’m just trying to do less of that, and more of the entertainment!
"I’m not asking for first-line money or top six money," Burrows said. "I don’t think it changes anything. I still consider myself a checker. That’s what I think I am first. That’s how I want to be paid. "If I can generate offence once in a while, I think it’s a plus for the team." Alex Burrows...Mar/09
So in regards to persona, I prefer interviews where a guy pulls no punches. Heart on the sleeve. That entertains me as well.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody has said
anything of the kind, and your hyperbolic rhetoric just goes to prove how defensive and biased you are on the subject of Luongo.
All I’ve ever said is, he shouldn’t be wearing the C if he has to throw his teammates under the bus ever time somebody asks him about his own lacklustre play, instead of just saying “yeah I’d like to have that one back” or “I’ve got to make that save there”.
Where have I ever said he sucks? He doesn’t suck, he’s a damn good goaltender, but he’s far from responsible for this team winning on a nightly basis, that’s a myth that I’ve grown very tired of, especially this season, he gets all the credit when they win and takes none of the blame when they lose and it’s horseshit.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Who said
anything about “starting a thing”? I’m just saying I’m not pleased with how he acts as a supposed leader and think Kes is much more deserving.
He can have an ego, should have one, but how does that mean he should deflect any and all criticism onto his teammates?
You know I actually find the media a bunch of pussies the way they tiptoe around their questions to him, almost apologizing for asking him anything and never questioning his BS answers. You wear the C, yeah answering media questions is part of the job description.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I wouldn't mind Kesler wearing the C.
But that would require Lu to give it up. Which is iffy in itself. My desire for Kes to wearing the C is based on the San Jose example. Marleau gives up the C, has a fucking awesome season, and Blake, the new wearer of the C, still has a pretty good season.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Go wild! Not very often that I get to say that…
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
I thought about it again and Hoff should’ve just tackled or grabbed Zetterberg since there was very little time left. Or Demo could’ve supported him since Hoff didn’t have a stick. I assume they didn’t think to do so because they lost track of the game clock, which is completely understandable.
Re: Lu’s game. I can’t blame him on the 1st and 4th goals. Bieksa f’ed up on the 1st goal by not clearing it, I think we can all agree there. On the OT goal, Lu was screened by Bieksa, Hoff didn’t have a stick and got beat, and backhand shots from the slot are really tough to read. Overall, a tough save to make. The 2nd goal was deceptive as he was screened and you don’t expect anyone to snap a perfect shot from that part of the ice, but he could’ve had it and probably does 80-90% of the time. The 3rd goal on the PP he could’ve came out to play the puck if he committed earlier but you still can’t give up SH breakaways to the opposition.
I think the Canucks played well enough to win but the Wings also came to play and Howard settled down nicely after it was 2-0. The Wings showed us that they can still be dangerous in the playoffs, hopefully they knock off the Hawks and/or Sharks for us. :)
Poutine & Meatballs
Would have liked to see the Canucks attack more. I don’t think they played well enough to win, as the shot clock more or less dictates. Lou almost stole it. Almost.
I’m not a believer in the Wings doing much of anything if they make the playoffs. Out in the first round is my guess. Blame Bertuzzi..haha
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Luu had a tough night, and what I mean is he just went up against numerous very very difficult chances.
I agree with cyxj’s thoughts on this one, the only one you can really blame him for was that 2nd goal, that’s one he really should have had.
But the breakaway goal, the puck took a weird bounce and the Wings got a breakaway. Can’t fault Lu there.
I agree with Sean though. It’s easy to say, but we need to play consistently well. It’s fun to be able to come back every once in a while, but we really can’t be shutting down after the first period to protect a two goal lead. Gotta keep it at least on a somewhat even footing, I wouldn’t even mind starting to trade quality chances once you’re up 2-0, rather than just sitting back and playing D for 40 minutes. Luu can only do so much, and his 50+ shots against yesterday is what I mean.
Sean, you don’t like the Wings against San Jose in the playoffs? Or perhaps against Chicago’s depleted D? A 7-game series for Detroit is going to be tough, since they really don’t have that many forwards left, but I would need to think real hard before picking a winner of a Red Wings-Sharks series.
by Vancouverguy on Mar 21, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah. Even though Joe T is a suck in the playoffs I still think they’d beat the Wings.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
You can
absolutely blame Lu for not coming out to the friggen hash marks to get that loose puck, if he does, there’s no breakaway, he hesitated and then paid the price for it.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
After a couple more looks on the replay, yeah he’s gotta come out to play that.
I also noticed that the Hoff pinched in way too deep, he was in between the hash marks in the slot about 5 from the crease where there was already another Canuck!! Maybe if he was near the blue line he might’ve caught up to Val.
Poutine & Meatballs
Disagree. No way he would have beaten Fillipula to the puck.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
I didn’t say “beat him to the puck”, he might’ve caught up enough to him to make it a bit more difficult for him to score. The Hoff does have some good wheels.
Poutine & Meatballs
Sorry, I was referring to Lu coming out of his net.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Huh?
He had tons of time, if he skated hard he probably could have beat him to the freakin blueline let alone the hashmarks, that would have taken all of two hard strides, would have had the puck way before Fil got there.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Lovely! He does well there, let’s hope there’s no more talk of a supposed rift between him and the team. Give that story a well deserved burial!
apparently it was his first shot on his first shift
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
we haz rookies?
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Mar 21, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh oh
Stretcher time for Daymond Langkow. Can’t tell if it was from how he was hit in front of the net or the puck hitting him in the upper back
Watched the replay. Langkow saw the shot coming and tucked his head. Pretty sure it hit him in the higher back/ lower neck area.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Second for kobasew…sweet. I gotta say calgary looks realllllly sloppy in the neutral zone.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
Lol they were playing winger in the arena! Wow.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
Brampton won 5-1 to take a 2-0 series lead over the Kingston Frontenacs. Hodgson had a shorthanded goal
Sweet…flames lose.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
I enjoy watching them lose.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Bah. I still want the Flames over the Wings, playoff wise. Bring the Cup back over the border. The more Canadian teams in the playoffs, the better.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Wow, I’ve gotta say i’ve never actually heard an actual hockey fan say that before. Usually only casual fans say it. Nope, I’d rather see the cup in Chicago or Boston than Calgary any day of the week. More Canadian players there anyways.
"Hope you like pancakes, Norway..." Morgan Freeman
"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
god yeah. i think i’d rather see the NHL fold than Calgary win the cup.
by Passive Voice on Mar 21, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed and rec'd.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand
the Wings have been dominant for so long, and ‘02 still probably stings for some, but I really don’t get the hate, classiest organization in the league from the owners on down, great tradition, wonderful players like Yzerman, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg… Maltby…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I dislike the Flames more than I dislike Det.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t care how classy the Wings organization are. They can suck it. haha. No serious..I hate them..classy and all. Almost always have. It goes partially with growing up being a Leafs fan.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not saying I’m going to go out and buy an Iginla bobblehead or anything. It’s been 17 years since the Cup was won by a Canadian team and it’s time to come home.
My preferences for where the Cup should be;
Vancouver
my house
Canada ( don’t care where)
Original US cities (except Detroit )
Original US expansion cities
No new US cities where they’ll probably forget about it in a week.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
I can rally behind the Cup being won by a Canadian team. So yeah, I agree with Smo. Calgary over Detroit any day
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
While my hatred for the Flamers knows no bounds, I have to agree with Smo’….’93 is too long for the Cup to not come home.
"I’m not asking for first-line money or top six money," Burrows said. "I don’t think it changes anything. I still consider myself a checker. That’s what I think I am first. That’s how I want to be paid. "If I can generate offence once in a while, I think it’s a plus for the team." Alex Burrows...Mar/09
NO! WE MUST REMAIN VIGILANT IN OUR HATRED OF THE FLAMES!
Tsk tsk…
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys are completely out to lunch. Hockey is an international game and the NHL really doesn’t (or shouldn’t) have a US Canada border any longer. If that is the case, they should remove the ability for any team to take anyone outside of the team’s city. Sure, Hockey is Canada’s game, but it’s Canadians playing it, even in the US. And frankly, I’d rather see teams I like in the playoffs than teams I don’t every season. If that means I never want to see Calgary or Toronto in the playoffs, that’s what it means. I struggle with the Canada/US thing in NHL. National pride should not come into play here, civic pride should. If it’s all about the cup going to Canadians, we’d all be cheering hardest for Chicago since they have like 2032 canadians, 3 americans and a couple euro’s on their team.
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Well said.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess we’ll agree to disagree.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Also, I think you guys should see this, Rangers fans are shitting bricks...
Angry game recap here.
Im starting to think that the Rangers are the Calgary Flames of the East.
Over paid D, goaltenders who are wasting the best years of their career on middle of the pack teams, extreme lack of offense, seemingly inept management and coaching, captains and goaltenders who are expected to and somewhat succeed in carrying their respective teams, rookies who might have been brought up too early (Del Zotto/Backlund), both avoided signing old dudes in the off season (Shanahan/Fleury), both fighting for a playoff spot, playing “desperate hockey” but losing nonetheless to teams they should be beating (Minny/Boston).
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 21, 2010 5:13 PM PDT reply actions
Gotta disagree with you on the rookie thing. Del Zotto has been solid all year, his plus/minus is misleading since the rest of the Rangers’ D is just abysmal at times. And how could you not keep him when he was PPG in the first 10-12 games of the season? And Backlund’s actually been pretty solid since he was called up.
But yeah, the Rangers’ organization is still an absolute joke. They lead the league in god-awful contracts, without a doubt. And Tortorella acts like a buffoon at times – it amazes me that he still has a job, too. And Sather should have been fired years ago (though he has actually made some decent trades and done a good job at the draft, but the bloated contracts he’s responsible for cancel all that out).
And we all know the Flames are a joke since their roster is basically half Leafs now.
Unbelievable
Oilers smoking SJ 3-0 with 7 minutes left.
Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.
Go…Sharks?? They’re in meltdown mode..until they get back home I suppose.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 21, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
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