Start your drinking early: Samuelsson hurt, Grabner recalled, Schroeder signed
by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 12:25 PM PDT
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Lost in last night's knee-slapper of a game was that the NHL's first star of the week Mikael Samuelsson left the third period with an undisclosed injury and is scheduled to have an MRI today.
An injury to the forward ranks is music to the ears of Michael Grabner, who has been recalled from Manitoba for the second time this season. He has been playing on the top line for the Moose (26 points - 15G, 11A), but was on a roll for the Canucks back in November before he Wellwood'ed himself (not death by chocolate, but by breaking his ankle playing soccer during the pregame before a match with Colorado). Whether he can pick up where he left off in some upcoming clutch games will be the key question; remember all his points came on special teams. Expect to see the resurrection of the lovable Raymond/Kesler/Grabner speedy line by tomorrow night in San Jose.
Lastly, as Bitterguy alerted earlier, Vancouver has inked first rounder Jordan Schroeder to a undisclosed three year contract and the little guy is headed to town now and plans to meet with the media tomorrow. As the Sun notes:
He had a sub-par campaign with 28 points (9-19-28) in 37 games, which followed a strong freshman season of 45 points (13-32-45) in 35 games.
If you want to talk sub-par, take a look at what our old friend Pat White's season looked like. He's two years older than Schroeder. But feel free to get a jump-start on indulging your inner Hodgson/Schroeder fantasies for next season.
So...yeah. Happy St. Patty's day?
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Grabner
Who plays with Wellwood and Hansen if Grabner plays on line 2? Demitra? Burrows? Neither of them have done anything to justify bumping them out of the top 6 for Grabner.
I’d prefer to see Grabner on line 3, with a short leash (put Glass or Rypien up there with Wellwood and Hansen if he struggles…at least they’d have some grit on L3 then). I just can’t see Grabner bumping either Demo or Burr out of the top 6.
Unless they go Grabner-Kesler-Demitra, and leave Raymond on L3.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
Leave Raymond on line 3. That was the best line last night,
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That was the best line last night
That’s like saying you are solid poop when everything else is diarrhea. Shit is shit. :)
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Meant for that to be in quotes, sorry
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If Grabs goes to two they will probably do that (leave raymond on 3). I’m not sure if he’s in the doghouse or if he was put down to 3 to try and inspire them into doing some good, or playing with an injury, but Raymond seems to have been struggling for a few games now. He’s had Bernier luck (or bernier skill?) on chances of late, and I’ll say it again: Wellwood makes his linemates grow stone hands. Not sure why…maybe he chews on their fingers on the bench or something.
Personally I’d like to see Kesler/Raymond/Demo back together, but if it’s Kesler/Grabner/Demo at least it’s still the RPM line…
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"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
I know what oyu mean about Kes and Raymond playing with Grabner again, but I might be OK with throwing Raymond up with Demo and Kes, who seem to have rejuvenated their chemistry from last year.
Grabs can fill the Raymond role on that line 3 ( by far the best line for the home team last night )…and Raymond can get his confidence higher with familiar linemates and on the end of Demo passes for empty netters.
Either way though…the could prove to be interchangable.
Murphy ; "You finished with the Twins against Nashville, and AV elected to keep you guys together for today, were you happy with the decision?"
Mikael Samuelsson ; " I was happy with it...Oh yeah. Sure"
heard on the radio that schroeder signed a 3 year entry level deal. haven’t looked for a link online to corroborate that.
Thanks, I updated it above.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Schroeder was stagnating in MN. IIRC, it’s happened to a few guys before, so he’ll prob develop better on the Moose anyway. As for Grabner – go Grabner go! … and when Samuelsson returns, we’ll just be that much stronger.
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(Hey, it worked last time!)
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Ha, I watched that movie last night.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 17, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I am usually pretty optimistic
but this feels to me like the first domino in the end of our season just got knocked over…
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Samuelsson: Upper Body Injury, 2-3 Weeks
According to the Canucks twitter feed, which I don’t have access to right now.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
That means gone for the season. Hopefully back for the playoffs. The hot streak ended with an burning crash.
Well, this is Grabner’s time.
Los Angeles, CA
Even at the upper limit of the estimate -3 full weeks – Sammy’d still be back in time for a coupla games before the playoffs. And if it tunes up Grabner in the meantime, great.
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The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
Meh…Vancouver will be fine. All season we’ve seen that this team has the depth that someone will always step up if someone falls. Sammy’s out for 2-3, Burrows will be scoring his goals, and Raymond/Grabner will score what would have been Burrows’. The only single injuriy that would seriously hurt this team are one of either…uh, at risk of jinxing anything i’m just going to say ‘other guys’.
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"you'll be playing in england the rest of your career" Sir Alex Burrows
The biggest downside of this thing is that Sammy has been playing really well, probably the best Canuck this past month.
The upside is that it gives Grabner a chance to get reacquainted with the Canucks and the NHL. We would be silly to think we won’t see an injury to our forwards during a playoff run so at least we get to test this teams depth before then.
I hope the re-try the speed line of Kesler/Raymond/Grabner…they looked dangerous before and Pavol has looked pretty average the last couple weeks.
hosea24hours on Twitter: Grabner is skating on a line with Demitra and Kesler at practice.
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Mmmm
Jameson…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Wait…bad news…just watched him on Canucks TV, and Grabner’s shaved his head! Vancouver + bald guy = underachiever! WOE! DOOM!.
Seriously. Messier. Bulis. Sundin (sorry Sean). Demitra.
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But…Alex Auld…AULD!
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I just want the Nucks to clinch a spot.
Last time I checked they needed 9 more points.
Oh and I want Calgary to miss the playoffs. That would be awesome.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 17, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions
I think 94 points was the projected total to get in from the West. So the Canucks need 5 more.
Poutine & Meatballs
Sweet, even better.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 17, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Man I want some Guinness now.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 17, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
Me too. Just one more hour…
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
YC
Check yer email :)
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Marinating
something?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Story Time! (Name Dropping Edition)
The Significant Other and I got a wedding gift from an artist friend of ours (LeRoy Jensen, R.I.P.), and with it came a story:
He spent time in Paris (qu’elle surprise, eh?), sharing an apartment with Brenden Behan. In six months, he never saw Behan eat, neither was there ever any food in the apartment that LeRoy didn’t buy (and eat) that day. There was plenty of liquid to be had, but no food.
By the time Behan had achieved fame as a playwright, Guinness was casting about for a new slogan, and asked if he would contribute. Behan agreed, demanding a case of the product for inspiration. Two days later, Behan summoned the company’s employees and delivered his masterpiece: “Guinness Makes You Drunk!”
They went with Dorothy Sayer’s “Guinness is Good for You!” instead. Go fig.
Are we really that worried about this? Sammy will be out for a couple weeks and be back and ready and fresh and pissed off for the playoffs. There is no way that this team will miss the playoffs at this point. Aren’t the Nucks the second highest scoring team in the league? I think we can absorb the absence of Sammy. I mean we did OK without Danny and he is a more important cog than Sammy. Let’s all relax just a bit and have faith in our boys to keep getting the job done.
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by Section 312 on Mar 17, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions
I’m not too worried, but those are big shoes to fill. If Grabner sputters, then I reckon you’ll see a lot more 2-3 goal games and less 4-5 goal games as we have. And with Luongo not exactly playing confidently and a defense that needs a good kick in the ass, it’s a minor cause for concern. But the sky is far from falling.
I’m more concerned about the defense. You can’t bench Alberts quick enough for my liking.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Andrew Alberts needs to sit. In the spirit of St.Patty’s they need to dress Shane O’Brien against the Sharks
I agree. In fact my next guinness is in SOB’s honor.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 6:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
To be honest I am happy Luongo isn’t at his best right now. We have shown we can win when he isn’t lights out and let’s be honest the longer he struggles the closer we are to him having a hot streak where he is almost unbeatable. And those are the streaks you want to start around the same time as the playoffs.
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by Section 312 on Mar 17, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Canucks have said they wanna play Aberts in order to evaluate his strength and weaknesses now, long before the playoffs start. Better to learn while the learning is relatively cheap. Makes sense.
They might also, er, fine-tune his coaching, say by having him practice playing D with his stick upside down so he has to take the body like he didn’t do on Tavares.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I’d rather see Oberg over Alberts right now. I gave him plenty of passes up til now so he could get acclimatized, but this is getting stupid.
What could you possiblt write in the strength column, puts skates on the correct feet?
Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.
What could you possiblt write in the strength column, puts skates on the correct feet?
I’m not esp happy with his play, either, but he was grabbed as a cheap potential replacement because Bieksa and Mitchell were both down and out (Mitchell still is) who may or may not be back for the post-season.
If he’s here, we might as well learn what we can and cannot get outta him just in case we gotta use him in the playoffs. You never know.
Get better, Willie, we miss you!
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The interesting thing through all this is AV keeps saying that SOB will be a huge part of this club in the future. What the heck does that mean if he’s bad enough to bench a few games in a row?
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It means he isn’t playing well right now and we have depth. Most normal players go through bad stretches at times. Getting benched doesn’t mean SOB is a bad player. Maybe he just needs to get some confidence back and get some rest and refocus.
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by Section 312 on Mar 17, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it might also mean, “We know what we’ve got in SOB but we still need to learn more about Alberts.”
Barring injuries, I expect Mitchell to return for the playoffs(cuz he’ll just find a way to get back in time somehow) and SOB to regain his ice time, leaving Alberts and maybe Rome as the odd guys out.
/Did I really just say “barring injuries” about a team that includes Sami Salo?
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
Sami’s been surprisingly durable for a decent stretch now (~1.5 months), he’s due for an injury any time now.
Poutine & Meatballs
Heretic!
You should know now that is one thing we don’t discuss.
Sort of like shutout, or no hitter for a pitcher.
Jinxed him…
Sean says if he gets hurt now, you lose 2 points on the SPW standings…
Murphy ; "You finished with the Twins against Nashville, and AV elected to keep you guys together for today, were you happy with the decision?"
Mikael Samuelsson ; " I was happy with it...Oh yeah. Sure"
Sean says one point each then, but that he fears you more than casual…so watch your back!
;p
Murphy ; "You finished with the Twins against Nashville, and AV elected to keep you guys together for today, were you happy with the decision?"
Mikael Samuelsson ; " I was happy with it...Oh yeah. Sure"
Yeah I never meant to infer that SOB is a bad player in my mind…heck i was the first one here to sing the praises of his improvements oh those many months ago. I’ve always been an SOB supporter. Just, in AV’s mind if he’s bad enough to bench blah blah blah…
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I’m a bit six of one …half dozen the other.
SOB is over the whole season improved….but lets not forget the game he was benched from.
He somehow was a +1, but was Lee Stempniak’s personal bitch on two goals. I was pretty unhappy with how he played him off the boards on the second one. I imagine AV was as well.
Double A has been as good or bad as you want to say. He is the everyman defenseman. He has some skills, but not enough. Some skating and shooting ability, but is not speedy.
Has made some mistakes that led to goals, and made some plays that had me shaking my head, but he has also had some times where he did his job, and you didn’t see him. Which is good. Because all he is supposed to do is clear out people, win board battles, and get the puck out.
He never came advertised as a big min guy. There is a reason his salary is the same as SOB’s too. Both are intriguing but incomplete players.
Of the two, I would keep SOB come dance time, and expect that we will see him against the Sharkies.
casual is right though, finding out about Alberts now then later is smart. SOB is a known quality.
Besides, AV has said in every presser, every time he is asked, how he is happy with Shane, and its just to see AA.
Maybe we can believe him, at least on this one!
Murphy ; "You finished with the Twins against Nashville, and AV elected to keep you guys together for today, were you happy with the decision?"
Mikael Samuelsson ; " I was happy with it...Oh yeah. Sure"
Losing Samuelsson is definitely a huge hit to the secondary scoring, but shouldn’t pose a real threat to playoff hopes, and if it is only 2-3 weeks, he should be back in time for the playoffs.
Of more concern is the fact that he was doing awesome for my fantasy team. Damn, now I’ll have to replace him.
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I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 17, 2010 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And Car Bombs are the booze of the Gods.
Helllo rec.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing I’ve discovered: I can successfully order a Car Bomb in Japanese.
I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 3:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d have to act it out. Like do the steering wheel motion followed by an explosion noise. And then likely get tossed out of the place.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 18, 2010 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Wisniewski hit on Seabrook
Anyone see this yet? Just. Fucking. Brutal. Crappy vid on youtube
charged at him. left his feet. elbow to the face. head slammed into the glass. Knocked out cold. Two minutes for charging. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????
The hit was retaliation for a less than clean hit Seabrook laid on Corey Perry (not the nicest hit, but to be fair to Seabrook, Perry turned into it). Right in front of the ref and he gave him two minutes. I hate both teams, but good god. The Hawks deserved better than this.
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Yikes, that looked bad. Seabrook’s fall was sick, like he was utterly stunned initially and just collapsed. Good to see he got up, that’s scary.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Somewhat dirty hit by Seabrook on Perry, who didn’t have the puck and was skating/moving away from the puck.
Obviously, Wisnieski’s hit was dirty as he charged from the faceoff dot, left his feet, and got his elbow high. Gotta be suspended for at least 5 games.
Poutine & Meatballs
Also, it’s weird that Seabrook has played with both Perry and Wisniewski in the last year and all this still happens.
Poutine & Meatballs
Anaheim…Flyers of the west…
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Sharks and Ducks kicking the holy hell out of eachother? Dirty or not I like it!
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Seabrook dropped like Greg Valentine after that hit..
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at this hit by Leafs prospect Matt Frantin.
Video here.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 18, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
that looked like Goldberg taking out Lanny Poffo
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 18, 2010 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Seabrook/Perry/Wiz
Seabrook’s hit on Perry could have been penalized too – a high, late, head check. Does not excuse Wiz at all, but that is clearly why he was looking for Seabrook.
I am NOT defending Wiz’s hit, but I really don’t see the "leaving the feet thing. One of his feet came a bit off the ice, but it wasn’t a Downie-jump-into-McAmmond.
The bigger issue to me is Wiz skating from the blue line at full speed just looking to run Seabrook through the glass while ignoring the puck completely. I doubt Wiz was actually trying to concuss him, but he clearly should have known that was a likely result.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
Here’s a better video. The announcers are horrid in this video.
There was absolutely nothing clean about that hit. But considering Seabrook got up, there will probably be no suspension. After all, this is Campbell’s opinion:
Look, if there’s no injury on the play, we probably, we don’t do anything, but that’s part of the supplemental discipline process. If you cause a player to be injured, then you have to be responsible for the play that you’re involved in, if there’s any carelessness or recklessness in it.
Ridiculous. I absolutely loath that man.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 3:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Flames and Hawks losing? I’m happy.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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Wow fail, I meant Colorado losing**
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by eightyseven on Mar 18, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Twas a good night
Luck of the Irish!
Let’s hope it carries over tomorrow…or today…whatever.
Stupid green beer.
Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.
I wish the Flames had lost.
That would make me happy.
Chuck was good, gonna miss Casey though. Next week’s looks really good.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't you be worryin me laddy
Only a wee chance those stampedin arseholes be makin the playoffs.
Fancy the Nucks in the 3 spot. All is well and good. Night.
Leave my name alone Botchford...get your own.
I would rather win the division and have the Flames sneak into 8th then have the Avs win the division and the Flames miss the playoffs.
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by Section 312 on Mar 18, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Pfft… why no faith in the Canucks? We can beat any team in the West if we choose not to suck, and seeing Flames miss is so sweet no matter how you say it. Ovbiously the division win is the goal, but the one game between the av’s and the flames is not likely to be the deciding factor with 14 games left. If Vancouver misses the division title, it won’t be because Colorado beat Calgary once, it will be because Vancouver shit the bed on the stretch.
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Home ice is important. And I really don’t give two shits what Calgary does. If they make the playoffs they are ZERO threat to beat us in a 7 game series and so I really don’t care if they make it or not. The Avs could have gotten within what? 1 point of the Canucks with a win? The Nucks wouldn’t have to shit the bed to lose a 1 point lead.
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"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Mar 18, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Section, you do have a point.
Even if the Flames do make the playoffs they’ll get knocked out quite easily. But you have to admit that them missing the big dance altogether would be awesome.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Mar 18, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
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