Cody Hodgson is back to playing hockey again, but he won't be working with Vancouver Canucks director of player development Dave Gagner.
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While Hodgson said he didn't want to dwell on the past, it confirms what many have suspected — that Hodgson and his camp were not happy with the Canucks and Gagner after the injury occurred.
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A lot of people, cough casual cough owe me and yoata an apology.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Uh – oh..I have too much pride for that! haha
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 5, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
For what? Quote w/link, please.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
For all of the times yoata said that he was worried about Hodgson being pissed at the Canucks for the way they handled things and all the times you poo pooed those concerns. You know you did it so I am not going to waste my time going back looking for the quotes. :)
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
“casual poo poo”
That’s right, I’m eight years old.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
I want an apology from you for saying that Kovalchuk was going to Chicago! Apologize man! haha
Hey, we had some great heated CoHo discussions back then. It was fun…mostly
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 5, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
I will apologize if I ever said that Kovalchuk would be going to Chicago. I was trying to suggest it made a lot of sense for him to go there not that I thought he would. But if it wasn’t clear I will certainly apologize for the miscommunication.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
That’s how I took it, esp since you continued your arg even after it was well known that Kovalchuck was off to NJ.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
Nah, Section, I’m completely kidding. I’d have to go back and read some of our arguments back then, but already from what I can remember you and yoata were all over this shit
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 5, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
More importantly...
I’ve always wondered how one pronounces yoata.
Is it like Yoda but with a T?
Or like Yo-ahh-ta?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
yota
Like Toyoata, had an ’87 4runner I used to call my little red goat (cuz that sob and the ’91 I had later could go freakin anywhere), goat turned to yoat turned to yoata…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Sweet! I had ‘78, ’79 and ’83 Corolla’s that all refused to quit. My fave cars. The trucks were/are kick ass too
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 5, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
On
my 4th yota now, an ‘04 ’runner, had a Tundra in between, all great trucks and looking to add a ~’00 for a fishin rig cuz this one’s too nice to scratch up.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I’m a Toyota man, too. Had a ‘95 Tacoma from ’98 to ’09, traded that in recently for a ’10 Tacoma. Sticky pedals, bah! That’s what the e brake is for.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Almost
bought a Taco a few years back, then waited a bit and went for another ’runner, great little trucks though hold their value like nothing else, and for good reason.
Both my first two runners had 275K and still going strong when I was done with them, and some hard miles on each.
My ‘04 had 140 on it when I bought it and it’s still literally like a brand new vehicle.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
My first car was
An ’84 Corolla. I paid $40 for it…to fill up the tank.
I miss him (I named him Tim).
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Feb 6, 2010 12:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
My first Tacoma had 99,000 kms when I bought it. It had 330,000 on it when I said…sniff…goodbye. A great little truck.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Yeah
it is tough to see them go, esp if you’ve made some memorable trips in them… not that we’d ever trade back once we drive the new one though eh!
I still see my ’91 driving around once in a while, little more rust but still looks like a good runner, the places I went in that thing…
Ever heard of Yank’s Peak?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
my first car was a 1979 Corolla. The rust finally got to it. Everything else worked on it. That thing would not die.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 6, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
I cut the roof off my 83 Corolla and made a convertible out of it. I should upload pics of it. So fun!
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 6, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Just to clarify, at least from my end, my argument with yoata was about whether the reason Hodgson wasn’t making the team was that the canucks weren’t respecting him enough to give him enough minutes but were for some unknown reason lavishing quality minutes upon Shirokov. The stuff about Hodgson been none-to-pleased with the Canucks position on his injury was never an issue.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Well I am not sure who we were getting into with but we spoke at great length about the issues around Hodgson’s disappointment with how he was treated.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Didn’t he even ask for a secondary assessment behind the Canucks’ team doctor’s back?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
IIRC, Miniaci was the 3rd opinion he sought. First he went to the Canucks’ doctor, then to his own personal doc, and finally to Miniaci at the Cleveland Clinic. The first two said he was fine, Miniaci was much more cautious and precautionary.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I think your last sentence should read more like, “Maniaci was the one who helped him get healthy”
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease.
—Voltaire
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I sure hope you don’t get all of your medical advice from French Enlightenment philosophers.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I call b.s. and again ask for a quote/sample of my poo-poo! Do you really trust your memory? Let’s put that trust to the test.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
If you don’t have the integrity to come on this board and admit your mistakes then what’s the point of me proving it to you? It doesn’t accomplish anything does it?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I have integrity, so show me where I said what you accuse me of and I will gladly “admit” it. Do you have the integrity to admit that you made a mistake in falsely accusing me?
For the third time, got a quote? This site has a nice search engine for its comments section; if such a quote exists, you should be able to find it in under a minute.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
Pointless
as you said Section, I have proven him wrong several times only to have him play deaf/dumb.
He very definitely agreed with AV a number of times and for as long as it was discussed, that Hodg was “using it as an excuse”, etc.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
OK, here we go again: I challenge you to find the quote that you just quoted, yoata. Once again, same as last time and the time before that, I never said those words. You are remembering what you wish to remember – in psych terms, splitting, making everything black or white – rather than what was actually said. Splitting is a common defense of the insecure.
But hey, prove me wrong! Got a link? My words will still be on this site if they ever existed.
Your turn. Back down from offering the proof but hide your mistake behind some snark; you know the drill.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
So
to clarify what you are actually asking, because I know you are such a squirmy little worm when it comes to admitting you are wrong.
Are you claiming now that you didn’t say those exact words, or that you said absolutely nothing to that effect whatsoever, as in if one were to paraphrase what you actually said one could never come to the conclusion that the gist of it was that your opinion on the matter was that Hodgson was likely using his back as an excuse for his poor camp?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
BTW...slimy little worm?
Thats a bit much. Or is that what anyone that takes a differing viewpoint is in for?
Come on now. I remember that discussion. I was there too. casual and I both tried to tell you guys that there was a bit too much hype on this “excuse” thing, and on the us vs. them" crap.
Come on now. What quote did you read in that story that makes you feel vindicated? All I read was a young player not rising to the bait of a lazy reporter, trying for the sensationalistic story.
Please…I beg of you Hodgson “experts”…lets wait until the guy actually plays here in the regular season. So much hype and mis-information with this kid.
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
not the point here dan
casual has repeatedly played deaf/dumb when I’ve proved him wrong after he went on and on and on in dogged, homespun defense of a pathhetically weak argument.
And he did just that about Hodgson, so yes, slimy little worm is apt.
And what exactly do you mean “hype about this excuse thing”? I’m not sure at all how to take that?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
FWIW
You said “squirmy”, not “slimy” the first time.
There IS a difference, I think :)
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
right you are Jevant!
Squirmy is what I said and meant… perhaps dan was ad-libbing… ; )
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Yawn, you’ve yet to prove me wrong even once, yoata, notwithstanding your own insistence to the contrary. I back up my own assertions with links and evidence, whereas you merely back down.
Argument trumps insistence. If you wish to prove me wrong, you’ll need to back it up with facts, something you’ve not yet even attempted when challenged. This is why you’ve been reduced, on multiple occasions, to creating false quotes and attributing those to me; kinda says it all.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
A few from just one thread, there were others:
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2009/11/16/1160812/mike-gillis-talks-to-media-about#25811073
Was the back the difference maker? Can’t tell. Did it get into his head? Maybe. Did he go doctor shopping afterward, not cuz he’s a finger-pointer or a anything (he isn’t) but cuz it’s a natural reaction to failure to look for a reason that you can actually deal with? Maybe.
He might still be sitting on the sidelines to this day, tho. And "getting to the bottom of this," if it turns out that the back was not the bigger problem, would humiliate the kid.
Vigneault, to me, tried his best to say, "Hey, Cody, we still love you and you’ll be back. Don’t let that hired sawbones mess w/your mind, man." It might have been a situation where the best thing to say was nothing at all …but the team had to say something.
I do agree that MG would never play a seriously injured player. Bumps & bruises, sure, but nothing serious. And as we thought, Cody himself first told the team he felt fine.
Honestly, I think he just had a bad camp and the back might, might have contributed to that. But I also think that to some degree, it became his psychological crutch … and maybe that’s a good thing, if it helps motivate him.
Remember his first go-around w/camp, two years ago? I think it was him, iirc. And he had apparently told his friends that he thought he was making the team for sure.
And then he didn’t. So this year had to be doubly crushing to his hopes. If it wasn’t the back, then maybe he might not ever be good enough (he’s still way too young to say that, but at 19 one gets impatient and one’s perspective on time is a lot different, too).
Here’s the alternative: "Cody sucked out there but he says he’s hurt. Not too hurt to play, but he says it’s j-u-s-t bad enough that it makes him look like he’s not ready yet.
But did it get into his head, too? I gotta wonder.
I still wonder if it’s actually a lesser physical injury than it’s made out to be, but if it got into his head as he struggled in camp. Yeah, it slowed him down, but did it then become his bete noire only after the slowdown turned out to be a difference maker in his career at that pt? Did he doctor-shop a bit in an attempt to assuage his fears?
That’s all speculation, for sure, but it fits the facts, too, better than the usual explanations. And it’s hardly damning of anyone, even Cody. Kid came in full of p&v and his confidence took a body blow.
Now time for the worm to squirm.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
LOL!
Out of context much? For example, let’s try this one:
Here’s the alternative: "Cody sucked out there but he says he’s hurt. Not too hurt to play, but he says it’s j-u-s-t bad enough that it makes him look like he’s not ready yet.
Read the entire comment: I was postulating the alternative that you would have had to take had you continued w/your previous line of reasoning, and I stated as much. Nice of you to splice the tape, which proves my point. What else did I say in that same comment about the entire situation?
But it’s no one’s fault, and from the menu of lousy choices, the selections made (1. let him try, 2. send him back to Brampton based on his play) were the best of a bad lot.
Read the rest of the comment you cite, too. Note the ambiguity, that I never said that Cody was using an injury as an excuse, but rather emphasized that it might have gotten into his head and affected his play. Or alternatively, that he might have been using it as a mental crutch in order to keep his confidence up.
p.s.
I still think that, and judging from your comments, so do you (moreso in your case on the former point than the latter). But you’re a “get to the sneer” kinda guy, and you miss more than you catch that way.
p.p.s.
Note that the word “excuse” never once appears in my comments, only in yours. You remember that word, I hope, it was the heart of the false quote you made up, yet it’s nowhere to be found.
p.p.p.s.
You have at least managed to confirm what I previously said about your aversion to ambiguity, so thanks for that much, anyway.
p4.s.
I prefer to work up a sweat so if you could make it a little tougher next time, I’d sure appreciate it. Dismissed.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
LIke I said
squirm squirm squirm
How anybody could read those comments of yours and not get the distinct impression that you think CoHo was using it as an excuse is laughable, you said it over and over and over, rationalizing AV’s comments over and over and over and like I said this was just one thread.
As Section said, you have zero integrity and therefore zero credibility, you are little more than a gaseous windbag who might as well be Gillisgan’s PR man the way you justify anything and everything the organization does no matter how indefensible and no matter how much horseshit it requires of you.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
ha ha ha!
I tell you where your argument is headed, and why it’s wrong, and you then criticize me weks later as if I were you, making that argument in the first place.
And after all this, it turns out that you have no damning quotes after all, that you flat-out made up the one where I supposedly said that Cody was using the injury as an “excuse,” and that you’ve now been reduced to saying that people must have mysteriously gotten a “distinct impression” totally unrelated to my arguments.
Project much?
Look, yoata, you’re a waste of time, and if you’ll just stop making up false quotes I’ll drop it and you won’t have to be embarrassed like this again.
Just.Stop.Making.Up.False.Quotes. It’s really that simple.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
You are
freakin delusional man.
Those are direct quotes of your posts, and you’re going to now claim that in no way were you intimating that he was looking for an excuse???
Did it get into his head? Maybe. Did he go doctor shopping afterward, not cuz he’s a finger-pointer or a anything (he isn’t) but cuz it’s a natural reaction to failure to look for a reason that you can actually deal with?
Don’t let that hired sawbones mess w/your mind, man."
I do agree that MG would never play a seriously injured player. Bumps & bruises, sure, but nothing serious.
Honestly, I think he just had a bad camp and the back might, might have contributed to that. But I also think that to some degree, it became his psychological crutch
this year had to be doubly crushing to his hopes. If it wasn’t the back, then maybe he might not ever be good enough
he says he’s hurt. Not too hurt to play, but he says it’s j-u-s-t bad enough that it makes him look like he’s not ready yet.
But did it get into his head, too? I gotta wonder.
I still wonder if it’s actually a lesser physical injury than it’s made out to be
did it then become his bete noire only after the slowdown turned out to be a difference maker in his career at that pt? Did he doctor-shop a bit in an attempt to assuage his fears?
it fits the facts, too, better than the usual explanations.
Nice try but you can’t “explain” those clear accusations of him exaggerating the injury/making into an excuse by trying to claim “context” and “projecting”.
Your words, fucking have some integrity and own up to them for once mr. sqorm.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
LMAO
I proved you wrong about Gillis and the schedule after all your yap about how they are made, and what did you do?
Same thing you always do, pretend you didn’t hear the truth, would be far too big a blow to that fragile ego of yours, yes some certainly do need their mental crutches allright…
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
For what is right! I read that whole story…sounds like another example of people making another mountain out of a molehill with this guy.
I mean, come on…the guy would not answer their questions that tried to make it an “us vs them” story, and then the reporter wrote it with an “us vs. them” slant anyhow!
Someone should not take these things so seriously! This is NO PROOF of anything other than a reporter writing a story to get the slant he wanted.
;-)
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
Also, does this mean Gagner may be on thin ice now? How does MG resolve this? I imagine mostly by not talking about it with the media, but I dunno.
Excellent questions. If I’m a prospect and I hear Hodgson feel the Canucks mistreated him, I’m not really well-disposed about working with Gagner. At the same time, isn’t it Hodgson’s responsibility to be honest about how he’s feeling? It’s difficult for me to see how a player could go from trying to play through a minor back strain in camp to sitting out for months rehabbing a potentially career ending bulging disc injury. Something does not add up there.
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
So are you saying it’s Hodgson’s fault the medical staff of the Canucks misdiagnosed him?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I’m saying something doesn’t add up. I certainly am not Kreskin enough to assign blame fully to either party.
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
I agree, but ambiguity is tough to swallow, so we look for certainty instead. Bad habit, that.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
LOL
You didn’t have any trouble making up your mind on this very early on… mainly because AV and Gillisgod did, and that’s always been good enough reason for you on anything.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I’m not MG, but if it were up to me, I’d want a face to face meeting with the both of them to clear the air and then proceed from what I learn there. As to the timing of the meeting, anytime between now and the summer should be fine.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
Speaking of development staff
I always wondered how Edler would pan out with Detroit and its stacked braintrust of a development staff.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Well, from what I hear and based on his stats, Ericsson has been a big fizzle there this year and he’s had some Edler-like hype.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Ericsson’s faced a lot of injuries this year. Plus, he was a last overall pick in the draft, the fact he even made it to the NHL is gravy.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
Yeah, well, except for Canucks and Detroit, no one else really had Edler on their radar. He was in very low-level leagues in Sweden. He would have dropped much lower had it not been for us trying to snag him before Detroit. So really it’s a similar story.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Vancouver’s development system may not be the best around, but part of that is because of the lack of prospects in the system to develop. It’s only recently that the organization has gotten back to the idea of developing prospects. Then again, if you want an example of the bad you are welcome to take a gander at the disaster that is the Oilers system… They’ve been drafting well, but man is their development system shot to hell.
Honestly
I don’t see a lot there aside from the author’s “reading between the lines” that one can say for certain Hodg is pissed at the Nucks, but there is a bit.
Certainly no one could blame him if he is though and would be surprising if not after the completely uncalled for public questioning of his integrit.
Once again I will give the kid credit for the maturity to act and speak with class and dignity on it, though I worry that the intent is to instead somehow quietly force a trade from the org and then do his talking on the ice. I hope not, but it’s an awfully bitter pill for him to swallow otherwise.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Am I missing the whole point about Hodgson here? Gagner said Hodgson was NHL – ready. Gillis said: “We’re going to do what’s in his best interest,” Gillis said. "He’s going to let us know when he’s ready to play in this league and it’s up to him to be prepared and be able to compete at this level.
“There’s been a lot of players that have played really well in junior hockey that come into this league and they’re not prepared for it. And they tend to really suffer later on.”
AV said: “He just wasn’t ready,” said Alain Vigneault. “We really believe this young man has a tremendous amount of upside but, at the end of the day, he didn’t show any signs that he was ready to play at this level. After analyzing it and talking about it, we felt the best thing for him was to go back to junior and his team.” And in regards to Hodgson seeking another opinion on his back: “As far as I know, he has already had two opinions. He had an opinion back home from a specialist who gave the exact same report that our back specialist gave him. If he wants to get a third opinion, that’s fine. I think Cody is a very young man who hasn’t had a lot of disappointments throughout his life. He’s probably having a tough time, personally, dealing with this one and trying to find a reason why it happened. We’ve all had times where we’ve encountered disappointment and tried to roll the (blame) in a different direction. We’ve all been through those things. Cody will learn from this.”
That was from our post here.
Hodgson said he was fine to play. What if he was lying to the Canucks’ doctors about some or all of his back issues? “How does ‘this’ feel? Fine? Alrighty then Cody, go out there and play”
What exactly was wrong with his back? Numbness from his lower back-down? It was a bulging disk. He told Mike G he was fine.
Are we reading too much into the whole thing? Sure, AV said what he said but what if he was under the impression from team doctors and Hodgson that he was fine? Blame AV for that then?
Is it really a big issue that Hodgson skips Gagner and trains with his own guy? Is this the Province sensationalizing the issue?
Fuckin right
blame AV for saying that, he publicly intimated at the very least that Hodgson was looking for an excuse, so unless you want to believe that Hodgson played a back specialist supported charade for the last 4-5 months and missed playing that much hockey just to validate the “excuse” then AV was obviously WRONG, and more to the point, whether he was right or wrong, wtf is the point of going public with your assumptions like that, especially unfounded ones about your organization’s best prospect in years?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Re: LF Press article that talks to Gagner and Hodgson
I think the Province is sensationalizing it a bit for sure.
But I also still think that MG and AV have handled this very poorly.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
I just wish Yankee would apologize to me for arguing that Cody Hodgson is Nostradamus’ third predicted antichrist, sent to destroy first the Canucks and then the rest of humanity.
I distinctly wrote he was the fourth predicted antichrist, following shortly behind Grimace.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Feb 6, 2010 1:51 AM PST up reply actions
Who’s going to know Hodgson’s back better than him? If he’s lying and saying he isn’t in pain to everyone just so he gets a shot then he’s just as much to blame for the situation as everyone else here.
I buy into that philosophy. Pressure was on Hodgson to have a great preseason and make the team. He never was a shoe-in. I accept any possibilities as potential facts in this story.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 7, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
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