What would you guys say to Steve Ott?
Let's get something out of the way right off the bat: Dallas F Steve Ott's a piece of shit. He's obnoxious. His mother probably wishes somebody would catch him coming across the middle with his head down. So if the question were literally "what would you say to Steve Ott?", the answers would probably be a collection of different rewordings of "dude, you're a huge bitch". But, assuming Dallas is in a selling mood, what would you say to adding him to the Canucks before the trade deadline?
Ott's a UFA in July. He had a bit of a breakout campaign last year, scoring 46 points in 64 games (about .7 PPG) and was +3. This year, he's scoring at a .42PPG rate, and is an ugly-looking -14. Theoretically, he'd come fairly cheaply.
So, why would we even consider adding an apparent one-year wonder who also happens to be a total cock? First, I'd dispute that he's become a much less effective player this year (all numbers c/o Behindthenet.ca):
2008-2009
Quality of Competition*: [.008]....[.512]
Corsi/60: +7.4
Offensive zone faceoff frequency: 48%
PDO**: 1010
2009-2010
Quality of Competition: [.015]....[.742]
Corsi/60: -0.9
Offensive zone faceoff frequency: 45% (lowest on the Stars)
PDO: 956
Basically, he seems like a dude taking on slightly tougher assignments this year, and getting jobbed by the bounces. He's also fourth among forwards in being credited with a hit. Always take that number with a grain of salt, but he's clearly a physical player. He can play centre, so I think he'd get the first crack at ousting Welly. He's also a decent PKer.
Now, about the less tangible "total cock" part. My thinking is this: could you imagine if we could roll the following lines...
Burrdins
Ray-Kes-Sam
Whatever-Ott/Demitra
...; if we could have one of Burr, Kes, or Ott out there for like 52 minutes a game? Throw in SOB and Bieksa and I think you have just about the most annoying goddamn team on the planet. They would start so many battles that they wouldn't finish--which would inevitably draw penalties. We'd lead the league in yapping--if we don't already--and I think we could back it up with a legit, deep squad.
K, it's late. I've already spent way too much time on this scheme, and I can tell I'm becoming much less coherent as I go along. But I'm in love with this idea. If the Stars are in a position to be selling in a month's time, I hope MG kicks the tires on one Steve "Bag of Piss" Ott, ESQ.
*([by Adjusted +/-]....[by Corsi])
**A player's team's shooting%+save% while he's on the ice. Tends towards 1000 over time (probably a little higher for the truly great players and a little lower for truly shitty ones, but ~1000 for most players), after the bounces even out. 956 is crazy low.
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Good idea
The question would be, how much to give up?
Assuming we’re talking someone like Shirokov and a low pick or something like that, I’d be on board for sure. More grit on line 3 is a MUST.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
by Jevant on Feb 5, 2010 7:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What would I say to Steve Ott?
“Hi Steve Ott, how’s it going?”
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 8:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would say, “Hey Steve, don’t you think you Ott to come play for Vancouver?”
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Feb 5, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it’s a huge waste that his parents didn’t name him Rob.
by Passive Voice on Feb 5, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That made my day.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Feb 5, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really get it…you mean like so his name would be like Robot? Cause for that to work his name would either have to be Robe or he would have to pronounce Rob in the douchiest possible way.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Feb 5, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I say boo to your comment, Section. Boo!
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But you have to admit it would be pretty douchey to be named Rob but pronounce it like Robe. Right?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Feb 5, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but written down it would be sweet.
by SteveNux on Feb 5, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True. You could have a sweet signature.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Feb 5, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heil, grammar nazi.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Feb 5, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t trying to be mean or a jerk or anything. Just some goodhearted ribbing for passive.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Feb 5, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just kidding, come on Section! Don’t be taking me seriously, now.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Feb 5, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
God, that fivehead
is killing me.
He was so emo in Dawson’s Creek.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Feb 5, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be fine with Ott replacing someone like Hordichuk, but that third line needs some skill. Like Ponikarovsky or some other (hopefully cheaper) guy who can replace the failures of Pudge and Bernier. If Ott doesn’t mind fourth line duties and taking a seat at other times, then sure.
But Dallas is still in the hunt too. I’d be curious who they’d want back.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 9:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree with Yankee; I love the concept of having a yappy bitch on every line, but I don’t see that Ott would really improve our third line’s scoring ability. As much as we all love to crap on Bernier and Wellwood, the problems they have aren’t so much skill as they are effort. Well, in Wellwood’s case anyways. And I think Bernier is a huge victim of his own emotions. I do still believe that Bernier can be a very good player someday, just dunno if it’s here. Wellwood is just a coaster, and I think the team knows it. Unfortunate, cuz he does have some madd reading and skating skills.
by GAHHHHH! on Feb 5, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
victim of his own emotions
Another name! Christ Bernier has like four nicknames!
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d take Ott on my team, we need some more grit badly IMO. He’s decent offensively too, there’s no way he would make the 3rd line worse at this point. He is a yapper but he’ll drop the gloves too, unlike Burrows and to a lesser degree Kesler.
Poutine & Meatballs
by cyxj on Feb 5, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I still have a serious Ottrection, by the way. Seems about time to consult my physician.
by Passive Voice on Feb 5, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you’re losing points with that one. Shoulda left on a high note. Ever see that episode of Seinfeld?
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 4:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Where George discovers that he always ruins the goodwill he creates after telling a good joke by following up with a bad one, so he resolves that whenever he tells a good joke, he exits the room. It’s funny. Trust me.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 5, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely brilliant episode. One of the best later season episodes, iirc.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
by Jevant on Feb 6, 2010 7:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think
Ott is what this team needs at all.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
by yoata on Feb 5, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What do you think the team needs?
At this point, I think Ott is a huge upgrade over Wellwood for practically the same price.
Poutine & Meatballs
by cyxj on Feb 5, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too much
of a “presence” in a room that seems pretty cohesive, reminds me of Avery.
Much rather a guy that can score better as 3rd pivot, preferrably with a Cup, Matt Cullen.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
by yoata on Feb 5, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Matt Cullen is target number 1, as far as I’m concerned. If that falls through, I could be okay with Ott as target number 2.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
by Jevant on Feb 6, 2010 7:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well there goes
that idea.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
by yoata on Feb 12, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hansen
Id like to see him on the third line in place of Pudge or Bernier
by Superstar_Alen on Feb 6, 2010 12:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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