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Oh noes.  Now the UK press, those torchbearers of journalistic excellence, are all over Canada and Vancouver as they attack anything even remotely involved with the Games.  Too bad we won't really care, as the roar of deafening crowds like the one at BC Place for Alexandre Bilodeau's gold medal ceremony and the ones that start today at Canada Hockey Place will keep us from even noticing the ridiculous crap spewing from the mouths of these 'journalists'.  A look ahead at the beginning of a new chapter in Canada's rich hockey history after the jump...

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While there will be no doubt more medal opportunities for Canada today, the sporting world turns it attention on the most highly anticipated hockey tournament yet, with the men getting underway.  Our own Roberto Luongo gets the call for Canada in net against Norway, and while Canada would do good and take a page from the Women's team and not underestimate any opponent, it is not a surprise Luongo is getting the start in the opener.  I am stunned to see the number of hockey journalists reporting this as a 'surprise' and a 'shock'.  A quick look at Canada's first two games, teamed with the knowledge that Martin Brodeur is the #1 goalie going in, and this becomes a no-brainer.  Of course you want to have Brodeur starting against a much tougher Swiss team.  We knew Luongo was going to get 1 game minimum.  So why not give the locals a thrill and get him in the opener against Canada's least fearsome opponent in the opening round?

Canada's first line will feature Sidney Crosby, with Columbus' Rick Nash and Patrice Bergeron of the Boston Bruins.  Some are skeptical about this first line, but with the chemistry Crosby and Bergeron showed in the 2005 World Juniors, and Nash's still underrated skills, this is a line with size, skill and speed.  Line 2 will feature Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry of the Ducks with Carolina's Eric Staal.  Again, the speed, size and skill, plus a little bit of grit that will look good with them as either line 2 or 3.  The all San Jose Sharks line of Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau and Dany Heatley is in the 3rd slot while a 4th line of Jonathon Toews, Jarome Iginla and Dallas' Brendan Morrow, with the Flyers' Mike Richards as the 13th forward round out the lines up front.  How deep is your team when your 4th line has a one time 50 goal scorer?

On defense, Canada will likely run Captain Scott Niedermeyer with Nashville's Shae Weber, the Chicago Blackhawks pairing of Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook, and Chris Pronger with San Jose's Dan Boyle.  LA's Drew Doughty is the 7th defenseman.  This is a solid team put together by GM Steve Yzerman, and now he hands the reins over to Mike Babcock and his coaching staff, and we see what this team can do.  Nucks Misconduct will have our regular daily open thread for all Olympic related talk as well as a Team Canada game thread.  And don't forget to get your picks in for the Olympic playoff pool before it's too late.

I would like to show you where you can stuff your crumpets...

Here's a thought: Since when did anything this professional piss & moaners print matter to ANYONE.  This nation doesn't need to justify itself to the UK.  They're doing everything they can at the moment to portray this Olympics in a bad light, partially because that kind of thing will help them sell papers, and they've never let their 'lust for gold' get sidetracked by things like 'truth'.  It could also be that they keep the focus off British athletes as well as try and keep people thinking that London's 2012 Summer Olympics will be the best thing ever.

Don't like Canada is taking a hockey mindset to it's approach in winning the games?  Too F'n bad, eh?  As a nation that gets mocked for it's politeness, it's hysterical to see people up in arms that we would dare to prove the stereotype wrong.  God forbid we should ever approach the Olympics like other countries and try and do what we can to help them succeed.  I would suggest we take the lot of these Brit tabloid whores, along with Rick Reilly and what the hell, throw Steve Symmons in there too, and duct tape them to the end boards for Team Canada's next practice.  But I won't.  I am a gracious host.  And like all our Canadian athletes, I will smile, and congratulate you on your Silver (or your 16th place finish as it pertains to the UK) after receiving our Gold.  That's how we own the podium.  And with a tip of the hat to Down Goes Brown and Bloge Salming... a little musical how's it goin' eh? to the rest of the world...


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by Whiter Mage on Feb 16, 2010 7:34 AM PST reply actions  

You got a link to any of those tabloids? I’m curious…

Iggy on Line 4? Geez heh? Such depth.

by Sean Zandberg on Feb 16, 2010 7:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll be honest, I do NOT like Iggy on line 4. Do not like it at all.

Bergeron instead of Iginla seems to be a way to balance scoring, but that’s sort of the problem I have with this team. With the issues we had scoring in Turin, we should be loading up on the offence.

I’m hoping he proves me wrong, but I do worry that our best scoring line is the Sharks line, which it shouldn’t be.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Feb 16, 2010 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I seriously didnt want to provide the links, because it’s such nauseating crap… but fine… if you insist
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2010/02/15/host-canada-criticism.html

you can go from there… but it’s typical tabloid hogwash

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by canucklehead666 on Feb 16, 2010 8:45 AM PST reply actions  

Please don’t take the words and actions of the British press as a refelction of the British people. The newspaper trade in the UK is very competitive and sensationalism, unfortunately, sells papers. Pointing out the negative aspects of Vancouver 2010 will sell them more papers than praising it. This is just the unfortunate reality of what has become a very nasty business.

As a Brit living in Vancouver I must say that I am thoroughly enjoying the games and am pleased for Canadians that their athletes are having success on home soil. I know I will have a similar feeling come the 2012 games and I hope London will be buzzing in the same way that Vancouver is now.

Anyway, enjoy the rest of the games, ignore the British tabloids and keep cheering on your Canadian athletes (and I will keep on cheering on the Brits, even if they do finish in 16th place!).

by British Canuck on Feb 16, 2010 8:47 AM PST reply actions  

oh I totally get that… and I hope I was clear that I was putting the blame solely on these so-called journalists

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by canucklehead666 on Feb 16, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

plus

The Australians are crying foul over their loss… I would speak out more against Begg-Smith but I am afraid of getting hacked :p
http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/Sports/vancouver2010/2010/02/15/12887851.html

http://waachcast.blogspot.com/ < WAACHCast Blog

by canucklehead666 on Feb 16, 2010 8:49 AM PST reply actions  

I'll speak

Bottom line is, Bilodeau was a lot (in moguls, anyways) faster, and there wasn’t much between the two runs. The Canadian judge scored BS higher than Bilodeau anyways. Whatever. If the judges were swayed by the crowd, so much the better…had BS showed the slightest bit of emotion or had any fun with it at all, perhaps he would have gotten those extra points.

Bottom line is that BS beat Bilodeau on the turns every so slightly, but was significantly slower than Bilodeau (who, to his credit in my books, gave one of the more reckless-yet-inspired performances I’ve seen at any Olympics), so he lost.

I DID think the other 2 Canadians got jobbed a bit…I certainly thought their runs were better than Wilson’s for sure…one of the benefits of starting later, I suppose.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Feb 16, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

The Aussie press, though, are an honourable lot when it comes to sports. They’re not so much backing this whiney pseudo-australian

by Beantown Canuck on Feb 16, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha, seeing him smirk/smile during medal ceremonies was a surprise.

"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"

- Dallas Stars Forum

by eightyseven on Feb 16, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

he probably just got a text that his latest spyware scam has netted him more money…

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by canucklehead666 on Feb 16, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

That or he infected the vancouver2010 website right beforehand.

"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"

- Dallas Stars Forum

by eightyseven on Feb 16, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he was happy to have one a medal? And a little bit upset, somewhere in the back of his mind, that he wasn’t repping Canada?

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Feb 16, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

The Daily Mail

Is pure hatred in print form.

And don’t worry about the press trying to make London 2012 look good. Every tiny detail of it will be scrutinised, overanalysed, and criticised to death as it rolls closer. I hope the popularity of our newspapers falls away, and the whole idea behind them is thrown to the sewers they are produced from.

The Guardian’s alright though, even if it is stuck up its own arse..

Yes, I am British.

by Simpo_B on Feb 16, 2010 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

The Daily Hate is the absolute pits in terms ot British papers. If you believed everything written in that rag you would want to kill yourself. I think this tongue-in-cheek uncyclopedia entry sums it up best:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Mail

by British Canuck on Feb 16, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah man, that video is $$$. haha

by Sean Zandberg on Feb 16, 2010 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

I Know

pure gold… Yzerman just frickin’ slays me

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by canucklehead666 on Feb 16, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting tweet I just stumbled across

Disclaimer: not validating anything… just posting this as an interesting discussion point

 y2bray
  
#NHL in #Winnipeg rumour isn’t a rumour. Insiders are telling me the deets. Look for March 4th presser. #atlanta #thrashers #hockey #news

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by canucklehead666 on Feb 16, 2010 9:37 AM PST reply actions  

however...

http://www.hendrickshockey.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2130:nhl-hockey-back-in-winnipeg&catid=40:the-rumors&Itemid=86

Of course you need to keep in mind that this is the NHL, where Gary Bettman once said there was no problem, financially or otherwise with the Phoenix franchise

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by canucklehead666 on Feb 16, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Since I love to play devil’s advocate let me start by saying that some of the stuff written in those papers is bang on the money. Own the Podium is a terrible phrase that has rankled with me for a long time. No one owns the podium and no one should try to own it. Something along the lines of Earn the Podium, though possible less catchy, would have sat better with me. It’s a little thing, and one that the papers in the UK probably could have left alone, but I can’t say I disagree. And I have been bothered by the stories that our lugers were able to slide on that track vastly more than other lugers. It gives us an advantage but at what cost? Surely the ideals of the Olympics are to try to win as many medals as possible but also to espouse the ideals of fair play and sportsmanship? Doesn’t seem very sporting to not alow other nations full access to practice on the track that will be used for the Olympic games.

Until all the details come out and inquiries are held, if they are held at all, I wouldn’t want to conclude who was to blame for what happened to that poor Luger. And of course there is plenty of blame to spread around, as there always is in these situations. But you have to admit that having a dangerous track, that people in the years leading up to the Olympics were saying was dangerous, and then not letting other nations practice on it as much as they might be used to practicing on newer tracks, could have been a factor in the death of Kumaritashvili. The British tabloids are everything that everyone above has mentioned, sensationalist and trashy and nasty, but that doesn’t mean they are wrong.

And I find it a little strange that we are upset about other nations pointing out the flaws in our Olympics so far in light of the fact that I have heard a lot of opinions from friends, family and even posters on NM on some of the flaws in our Olympics so far.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Feb 16, 2010 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

Own the Podium.

I agree with the funding of our amateur athletes, but not the attitude the government has decided to promote along with it.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Feb 16, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s wrong with a little bravado? It’s so un-Canadian, I find it refreshing.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Feb 16, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah funding our athletes is a great idea. We should continue to do that.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Feb 16, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Own the Podium is a ridiculous mole-hill made over a simple phrase. In the light of what the Olympics are, it’s a sad attempt to turn it into a mountain while athletes are competing for their country’s pride. It’s grasping at straws for the sake of sensationalism when there’s something much more important happening.

In 3 years of its existence the luge track at Whistler has no different a crash rate than other tracks around the world according to International Luge Federation. I can’t speak for the athletes but there seems to be equal, if not more, consensus that the Whistler track isn’t dangerous and that this is just an unfortunate accident that is always a possibility when speeding down a track at 88mph. I don’t think the lack of practice was a factor. Kumaritashvili was scheduled to make 6 practice runs that day. If it was the day of the event and he pushed too hard, then maybe we could point to lack of practice. The sad truth is, if he was slotted in for 100 practice runs that day, he would have never made it regardless.

I think the anger comes from the fact that we are honestly expressing our opinions, good and bad, about the games so far. We’re not publishing only negative opinions in an attempt to try and whore (sell) newspapers.

by Villain85 on Feb 16, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Well I read a quote from the head of the International Luge federation that he was afraid someone would die on the Whistler track. And he said it long before the tragedy with Kumaritashvili. I doubt he says that about every track.

Did you read every story from every UK paper about the Olympics? Or are we focusing on the negative press since that’s what the CBC article was focused on? I am not saying there are positive stories about it but until I look through all of them I am not going to over react.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Feb 16, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus, I could probably find Canadian media bashing Olympics in the past…..hate to say it..

by Sean Zandberg on Feb 16, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Canadian media bashing certain events. Before or after they scarfed down the free food in the media tent?

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Feb 16, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

If it’s Steve Simmons or Damian Cox, it’s likely before and after, with a slight pause in the middle to bash the food. Did anyone read the Kurtenblog’s takedown of Simmons the other day? Wherein Simmons writes a column dismissive of Olivier Jean’s fourth place finish in the men’s 1,500, only to have them uncover some twitter posts that show he had a beef with Jean’s pre race lack of English use.

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-WeepingTile

by ThomasPratt on Feb 16, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I caught that. Another example of why I despise Sun Media’s sports guys. Terry Jones wrote a column saying the Games were becoming a disaster on day 2 or 3, I think.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Feb 17, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Craazytalk – we’re too polite. We only bash American beer and Alberta hockey teams.

by Villain85 on Feb 17, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m only really speaking on the negative press that the CBC article alluded to, but I did some snooping around yesterday to check out some other UK papers. There’s unfortunately quite a few jumping on the ’there’s no news like bad news’ bandwagon from what I read. I’m sure there’s a few news outlets in the UK that don’t resort to that (Joor-nahl-iss-tic…. integ-reet-ee? What is word?) but they seem few and far between.

For argument’s sake (against myself) it is alarming that the head of the ILF did make those statements, and that one of the turns on the track has been dubbed the 50/50 turn by some of the athletes.

by Villain85 on Feb 17, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL, awesome video. R.I.P. Tupac.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Feb 16, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

Haha, Mike Green at the end.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Feb 16, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Completely unrelated but...

Does anyone want to watch Jannik Hansen undress Kaberle and score in intl hockey?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF7bUSUK3to

"Hey, why dont you give your balls a tug you fucking pussies". - Alexandre Burrows #14

by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 16, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Nice find…

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Feb 16, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

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