Friday Morning Coffee- Here at last...
If Olympic fever hasn't completely overwhelmed you yet, I have no doubt it will. The world has come to Vancouver, and it's going to be a party like we've never seen before. Oh, and the Canucks shutout the Panthers in Florida last night, but we will understand if you're not paying attention...
As the eyes of the world turn their gaze to the best place on earth, the Canucks continue the Road Trip From Hell (tm), as they picked up a huge win last night, shutting out the struggling Florida Panthers. Roberto Luongo gave another strong performance with a 31 save shutout. Florida also hit 5 posts last night, and considering the lack of bounces that the Canucks have had on this trip, it was a welcome sound indeed. Alex Burrows got off his mini-slump with his 26th of the season from Henrik Sedin, the early 2nd period goal standing up as the winner.
They got insurance via a very sweet shorthanded goal from Jannik Hansen and a late 3rd period PP goal from Ryan Kesler. Kesler's play on this road trip, especially in the last 3 games has been a revelation, as he has been criticized for being a tad invisible on the road this year. Nice to see him step it up as someone in a leadership role as he is, is expected to do.
No rest for the wicked (literally) as they are right back at it this afternoon in lovely uh... Columbus, Ohio against the now Hitchcock-less Blue Jackets. The BJ's are seeing a bit of a new coach bump right now, and always play the Canucks hard, and while a trip to the post-season is looking slim at best, this is still going to be a tough challenge for Vancouver.
Andrew Raycroft will get the start tonight, as Roberto Luongo will rest for that important divisional contest Sunday in Minnesota. I don't think we will see any changes from last night's lineup, especially with how well they played. Make sure and check back for the Preview and game day thread...
Mmmmm... smoke
It's really tough even for the most diehard hockey fan to stay focused on the NHL with all the history being made as the Olympics officially kick off tonight with the Opening Ceremonies. Still no word on who will be lighting the cauldron, though I must say I am a little disappointed that it's not Wayne Gretzky firing a flame puck to ignite it. Call me a stereotypical Canadian, eh? My longshot guess? Paul Henderson gets snuck into town and comes out, to give Canada an emotional boost and a little historical inspiration.
There was some other hockey last night as well... the two hottest teams in the East got locked in a classic defensive struggle, Ottawa prevailing 6-5 over the Washington Capitals. The Caps are now gripped in a 2 game losing streak, and the reaction from fans and media varies from blowing up the team, exhuming Rod Langway (wait, he's still alive, right?) and trading everyone. Oh, and blaming the Canadian media.
Meanwhile the Calgary Flames continue to show that Darryl Sutter is a masterful GM, the trades to bring in more offense have worked out well for them. The 3-1 loss in Dallas now means both the Stars and Detroit Red Wings are a point behind. Calgary's chances of making the playoffs with the crew they have right now are not looking good, unless they somehow figure out how to score.
Buffalo and Ryan Miller continue to struggle, their OT loss to the suddenly surging Carolina Hurricanes helped Ottawa pass them for first in the Northeast last night. Miller lost it after the game, saying "We're not going to coast into the playoffs," Miller said. "If we keep up this pace, we're not even going to make the playoffs. This is getting ridiculous." Not a good sign for the US team heading into Vancouver next week.
Hard to believe the first Olympic action actually starts at 10am PST, with ski jumping preliminaries getting underway. With that and the trade freeze kicking in at noon, it's gonna be a very exciting day!
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I think luck has nothing to do with it…
there are a multitude of issues with that team, from a bad mix, to bad systems, a highly overrated team and thus a fan base with huge expectations, and only 1 or 2 players you can say have played well all year long… can you imagine if they had half the injury issues we’ve had to deal with? They’d be in the basement with Edmonton fighting over Taylor Hall…
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by canucklehead666 on Feb 12, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Nope… no shot at Hall… Flames got no first round pick. Traded it (with Lombardi) for that guy Jokinen. I hope that worked out for them!
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 12, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Someone seems to have their sarcas-o-meter turned off!
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 12, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I would be lying if I said that the Flames troubles don’t bring a smile.
I thought the rest of the team played well too Canucklehead. The Sedins looked more…Sedin like.
Cats were unlucky…but you know what…fuck em.
We hit 3 posts versus TB too.
Them’s the breaks….
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
Flames will turn it around tho, right Dan? heheh.. (oh noooooooooooooooooo)
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
sure they will.
- smiles slightly, tousling Seans head*
..’.sure they will Sean. Trust Mr. Sutter"
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
The Flames failing always makes me happy.
"Hey, why dont you give your balls a tug you fucking pussies". - Alexandre Burrows #14
by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 12, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
news just broke that the Georgian luger who crashed at Whistler has died…
please don’t watch the video… I am utterly shaken after making that mistake
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by canucklehead666 on Feb 12, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions
So sad…I just watched it as it came up on the TV…I question why it is so open there…
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
The fastest track in the world they say…
Risky business that luge is .
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Skeleton's worse.
That makes my heart stop.
Definitely one sport I wouldn’t let my kid do.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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by eightyseven on Feb 12, 2010 12:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Any sport that has you going over 90 km/h without a crash suit made of iron is crazy IMO
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Another reason why I love Melissa Hollingsworth
She’s hot and a ballbuster.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Feb 12, 2010 12:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Good lord.
"Hey, why dont you give your balls a tug you fucking pussies". - Alexandre Burrows #14
by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 12, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Just saw the video.
Holy shit.
"Hey, why dont you give your balls a tug you fucking pussies". - Alexandre Burrows #14
by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 12, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Alright, just don't get sick.
For the record, Sean asked me for the video.
http://v6.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=hv1lps
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 12, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Jesus…yeah, that is one messed up sport
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Let me be the devil’s advocate on that one. Why respect that? Why is it cool for people to risk their lives like that?
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Takes a lot of balls to do it.
Same goes for RJ and Kes for their shot-blocking.
Poutine & Meatballs
Furthermore, I know a lot of people disrespect it because it’s just “a guy/girl on a sled”.
Poutine & Meatballs
well that’s just silly. Yeah, you admire their courage, but there is a line there as far as how much do you really value your own life? Blocking pucks is in a different league
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
seriously?
i would love to try them!
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as I had mentioned previously I was fortunate enough to attend the games in 88 in Calgary, and bobsled and luge were among the events we saw. the speed which those guys and girls travel down the track simplyisn’t portrayed accurately on video, standing right next to the track you really get a sense of how insane this sport is. Keep in mind that technological and training advances have meant increased speed in the 22 years since the Calgary games. The one thing that really hit me right at the start of the video was “oh my god I can’t believe how fast he is going”. A tragic start to the games, let’s hope that they honor him properly tonight. The Georgian Olympic Federation is currently debating whether to participate in the Ceremony or even just pack up and go home. Who could blame them? There will be lots of questions and finger pointing to be sure, even speculation if the track is deemed unsafe that they might move those events to Calgary.
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by canucklehead666 on Feb 12, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
he rode the one wall really high and when he came down quickly he caught the “curb” on the opposite side, chucking him from his sled. Not sure who gets blamed there. But yeah, like you said…honor him properly
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Our sports guy Jon interviewed Michelle Kelly, who is from FSJ originally, and she is on the Skeleton team. She said the Canadian team has been practicing there for quite a while. This is a tragedy but just because this guy died doesn’t mean the event needs to be moved. I would like to see some sort of plexi-glass type wall to protect them from those pillars but that kind of set up is very common on tracks all around the world. This is a fast track so maybe extra precautions need to be taken. But let’s not go overboard. If the track was unsafe to the point of moving the event we would have found out about it a long time ago. Remember that all of these facilities have to be approved by governing bodies and regulatory bodies who make sure they are up to international standards, including safety standards.
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"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
thanks for the update S312, from the looks of things the track didnt appear to be any different than the one in calgary structure wise, but the plexiglass idea is a good one
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by canucklehead666 on Feb 12, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Wish I could take credit. It was a friend of mine who first mentioned it to me.
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Why is it necessary to have those poles so close to the track? You think you’d be able to move them further back and maybe line the end of the track with hay bails or something.
I have no idea. Although they seem to have added some walls to add protection. It is a fast track. But as far as I can tell, from watching bobsled over the years on TV, it looks like a pretty standard setup.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Hrmm…other three Nancy Greene Raine or Ken Read, that speed skating chick, and…who else..womens hockey team player?
I always hoped Terry Fox’s mother and/or Rick Hansen would be in on it
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't Rick
Already participate in the Richmond leg of the torch run?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Feb 12, 2010 2:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I guess that counts him out doesn’t it? Or does it?
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Betty Fox ran a leg in PoCo? I doubt VANOC would tip their hand like that and eliminate people just cause they alreay ran?
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
Agreed. Boucher already ran with it too I believe. I wouldn’t rule him out. I was kind of hoping it was someone we all never thought of that was perfect. But I guess life doesn’t work like that.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Reading all the guesses from various places today...
I like Gordie Howe.
But that is just me.
The Betty Fox to Terry Fox and then technology running the last leg is an interesting idea…but I am sure it will be a good choice.
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
Maybe I am out to lunch on this but I think it should be someone with stronger ties to BC than Howe. And someone who has Olympic history. Did Howe ever compete in the Winter Olympics? Just cause Hockey is a winter sport and this is the winter Olympics isn’ enough of a link for me to get on board with someone who didn’t get down in the Olympics and compete.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
(sigh)
OK Section.
Whatever.
Tell us, who do you think is a good choice? Other than the two I mentioned.
If it has to be an Olympian…who is it that will fulfill what Furlong said about it being an “Aha…of course” moment.
Howe is a good Canadian choice, but you beg to differ.
Fine…offer an alternative my friend…I honestly want to be surprised, and take him at his word that he hasn’t seen it on an article about it as of yet…
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
Fuck off dude. I can’t state my opinion that I don’t think Howe is right for it without you making it seem like my posts and my opinions are a chore for you? Don’t read them then if it’s such a pain in your ass that I don’t agree with everything you say. I didn’t take a shot at you or talk down to you. I just stated a different opinion than yours. Am I annoying you cause I don’t agree with you on this?
I EVEN STARTED BY SAYING I MIGHT BE OUT TO LUNCH ON THIS. Is there any better way I could have indicated that I wasn’t sure I was in the right? That I thought maybe my opinion on this was a minority one? You can be a real douche sometimes.
I have offered alternatives many times on this site. Hansen and Fox would work for me as would Boucher or Greene. Or all of the above. But I just stated 4 minutes earlier that I wished it would be someone perfect that no one had thought of but life doesn’t work that way. Howe wasn’t a great Olympian, isn’t the best living hockey player from Canada, and doesn’t have strong connections to BC. To me he isn’t the right choice. Why do you think he is?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I definitely would not go with how because of the aforementioned Olympic experience or lack of it.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
OK Section.
Whatever.
Tell us, who do you think is a good choice? Other than the two I mentioned.
I shouldn’t step in, but that would piss me off too.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
You need to relax …
I won’t even respond in kind to the childish language, except to say grow up. It wasn’t meant as an insult son. You like to criticize other opinions on these threads all the time, but you offer no alternative when you just blithely dismiss mine. I respect your opinion. I have serious doubts as to the quid pro quo of that.
I said, young man, that his suggestion was the one I liked the best. I never said that was my choice. There have been many names mentioned.
All you did was rip Mr Hockey. Who, though I may be wrong, was a home in Vancouver for all the time he spends here. He is a part owner of the Giants, and is at their games every year for several events.
Now…look little man, I will only say this once. Stop reading your insecurities into what you THINK I said.
And then just swearing and insulting me in response.
Have a drink. A coffee if you are a teetotaler. I could give a fuck.
Stop taking yourself so seriously dude…when you said this…
“Don’t read them then if it’s such a pain in your ass that I don’t agree with everything you say. I didn’t take a shot at you or talk down to you. I just stated a different opinion than yours. Am I annoying you cause I don’t agree with you on this”…it shows an unbelievable arrogance.
You don’t know me. I never asked for any confrontation. When I said (sigh), you get all out of proportion dude.
All I was really trying to get across is the fact that you ripped Howe without any class, and then proceed to act like Robert Duvall in that beach scene. …napalming any and all opinion.
Or…what you thought I said. Whatever dude. Relax. Take a fucking pill or see someone. Whatever gets you through it.
If you think I was trying to insult you son, you are mistaken. It was a pretty gentle jibe. But hey…that’s you…not me.
Peace
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
You not going to respond with childish language? Then you talk down to me using words like little man and son? Maybe you should re-read the tripe you are posting here dip shit. There I did it again. I don’t need to relax. I was perfectly relaxed. I didn’t “rip” Howe. I said I didn’t think he had any connection to BC or the Olympics. I didn’t know he was part owner of the Giants. Thanks for informing me. I then asked anyone who might know any better if he had played in the Olympics. I honestly don’t know if he did or not I just didn’t think he had. Go back and re-read what I wrote. I didn’t “rip” anyone or talk down to anyone the way you did in response to me.
Maybe I am out to lunch on this but I think it should be someone with stronger ties to BC than Howe. And someone who has Olympic history. Did Howe ever compete in the Winter Olympics? Just cause Hockey is a winter sport and this is the winter Olympics isn’ enough of a link for me to get on board with someone who didn’t get down in the Olympics and compete.
That’s what I originally wrote. I didn’t say anything about you being wrong or anything. I even started by admitting I could be wrong. So don’t try to take the high ground or act like I took things out of context. You fucking started off your post by writing “(sigh) OK Section. Whatever.” Clearly to start your post you have already indicated some sort of exasperation at my opinion and my having the ability to state that opinion. You have also started off by dismissing me by writing OK Whatever. If you think I am reading too much into that or reading wrongly what you meant by that then you need to look in the mirror at the way you are responding to me and what you are writing.
The message is the medium. So if I am reading things into your messages that isn’t there then it is your fault. Learn to express yourself more clearly or expect me to rip you when you write things in a douchey way. That’s the way it is going to be.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
Wow.
I am just going to chock this up to the vagaries of trying to communicate in this fashion.
Look. It was not intended the way you think.
Really. If you misunderstood, I am sorry.
But it just seemed to me that you were responding in a slightly mean spirited way. I wasn’t the only one on Howe on these threads. I was just repeating the suggestion from higher in the thread and that I liked it, and all of the sudden their is all these disclaimers and total dismissal.
Its all good Section. I get it. We are probably from different generations and upbringings. I enjoy spirited banter. Really. I wasn’t trying to be a dick. I guess the sigh thing came off a bit harsher than the intention…
I did show my exasperation, but that is not something you should take personally. Turned out Gordie would have been no more or less in stature than the five they chose.
I enjoyed the Ceremonies, and hope you did too.
See…the post above though is sort of my point though. mean this in the nicest possible way. Because I do enjoy some of your opinions…
Excellent communication. Until the end. Thats is the second time you have called me a douche, and you get upset for me calling you “little man”? You didn’t need to say it that way. The pronouncement of “thats the way its going to be” is exactly what I was saying about respect and quid pro quo.
I respect you man, even when I don’t agree with you. I have my doubts the other way. I have learnt on these threads over time to try and not take things personally. So, I won’t here.
I’ll just chalk up the continual use of the “D-word” as an expression of anger. And hope the communication can be more respectful and in the spirit of communication and not oneupmanship.
Peace
"Of course you know, this means war!!"
Bugs Bunny
I think you should read my comment again then. Didn’t call you a douche. I said you wrote things in a douche way. That would be like saying your driving in a douchey way. Doesn’t mean you are a douche just means you need to be more careful because you might be coming off as a douche. If I has said something along the lines of, “Hey Dan. Your a douche.” Then I could see why you would be mad about that. But I didn’t.
Earlier in the thread I wrote you could be a douche sometimes. And you often come across that way to me, especially since you so often seem to misinterpret what I write. As I said, I didn’t dismiss your opinion about Howe. I stated why I didn’t think he was a good choice and simply asked a question about his Olympic experience. I didn’t call you any names for liking him as a choice, I didn’t say it was stupid or use any other words like that to describe Howe or your support of him. Just stated my opposition to Howe as a possibility. I even started off by saying there was a chance I was out to lunch. You thought that was in a mean spirited way? I just don’t see it.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I’ve gone on record as saying that Rick Hansen would be my choice for a number of reason, but if it isn’t him, I see no reason to get bent out of shape. Tonight will be a celebration of everything Vancouver has meant and everything it’s going to be. If it’s Betty Fox or Wayne Gretzky or Nancy Greene or Red Green, I’m going to sit and enjoy a spectacular show and the start of 16 days of fun.
I’m looking forward to it a heck of a lot more than a period of hockey, which because it’s a Canucks PPV game, will likely only be available in the howlingly bad Blue Jackets feed.
My hopes exceed my expectations
-WeepingTile
Fingers crossed
Tonight will be a celebration of everything Vancouver has meant and everything it’s going to be.
But can I ask a question that no one has yet been able to answer for me? How does Gretzky fit into that statement? What has Gretz meant to Vancouver or to BC? Great Canadian and great hockey player, up there with Orr as the best ever, but if it’s about Vancouver and BC I am hoping the final person to light the torch is more of a BC person than a Canada person. That’s just me though. I am sure it will be great whatever they decided.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
I am kind of digging the Terry Fox hologram idea. I didn’t think I would like it. But I am kind of into honouring his memory that way. Have the 4 Canadians that were rumoured to be involved hand it off to Terry Fox and have him do it. Could be cool.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

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