Canucks and Kesler's Agent Cease Negotiations / Salo Probable For Tuesday
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 5:31 PM PST
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The Canucks and Ryan Kesler's agent have reached an "impasse", as the Province describes it, and there will be no more negotiations between the 2 parties until the end of the season to avoid distraction during this fine season. This does not worry me at all. I can respect management's decision to wait it out to sort out some of the..intangibles let's call them. But Kesler's agent (of course) isn't so understanding.
"It's frustrating and it's disappointing," Kesler's agent Kurt Overhardt told the Province. "He is a core player for the Canucks who brings his heart and soul every night. He puts it all on the ice. He's a great teammate. He's a warrior.
It's disappointing because based on the marketplace, it's not a difficult deal to get done for a core player like this. There's just not a lot of logic in waiting."
More after the jump..
Of course the agent is going to say that. But there are still several regular season games left and hopefully some playoff games where management can further evaluate Kesler's play and his dollar value. I'm just curious as to what Kesler's agent is asking and what the Canucks are willing to spend. Here nor there. At least this won't be a distraction, and it will continue to motivate the Keslord to play up his value.
Sami Salo gave a "thumbs up" after practice today, but will wait and see if there are any setbacks to his ailing groin after tomorrow's practice. It is expected that he'll be ready to go against the Canadiens on Tuesday. So my question to you is: who sits when Salo returns? Lukowich or Baumgartner. We know Aaron Rome is in AV's good books with his ice time going up dramatically against the Leafs. But I can't tell who struggled more early on against the Leafs Saturday, Baumer or Luko? Brad Lukowich played 10:05 against Toronto, with no time on the PP or PK and finished a -1 with no shots. Nolan Baumgartner played 11:16, had 2 shots and was a +2 in that game. We may have our answer right there.
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Bomber or Luko?
I see what the numbers say, but even with a sub game for Luko, I like him in there for that Mitchell type game he is to try and handle.
Baumer has played well though, so either one is OK with me.
As for Kesler, its good to put it aside. He seemed pretty happy afterwards, if that somewhat white boy dancing attested. I doubt it becomes an even little problem. Every guy in the room knows its all about the “business” when it comes to these things. he and Raymond both are playing for deals.
Call them the Rod Tidwell Line. Kesler and Raymond are the “Show Me the Money”, and Samuelsson “is all about the Kwann…”.
“Ya Knowww?”
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I’d bench Baumer.
I think Kesler should get around the same extension as Loui Eriksson ($4.25M, 6 years).
And Raymond around the same as Versteeg ($3.0M, 3 years).
Poutine & Meatballs
According to the Reid Report, its Baumer and Glass that are sitting tomorrow.
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Hunter S. Thompson
Why not work on it over the olympic break? The US will be 3 and out, anyway.
/ wait for it….
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
You shall eat those words.
When Kesler returns home with a gold medal it will only make his value go up :-0
Ha!
The US team is a house of cards. Already Paul Martin has bailed, due to a broken forearm. I also hear Backes’ wife said he better not play nice with Kesler. At least that’s what I’m tweeting later. ;)
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
What? No way. Kelly is a great gal. She wouldn’t say that. She loves Kesler.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Yeah...Temujin will be all over that!
Overhardt seems to be the type of agent who never met a mic he didn’t like either.
Whatever. More excited about what the score might be in Montreal, or how the Habs offense will stand up to whatever wizardry the Twins cook up with Burrows in his home town type game (well, Pincourt, but I think he lives in Montreal in the offseason ).
Not to say the “word”, but what’s the over/under on goals Luongo lets in tomorrow?
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.5
and I’ll take the under!
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reasonable prediction...
… also considering how the canucks were shut out 3-0 last year in the bell center….
Official Ambassador for Nucks Misconduct.
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler."
GO CANUCKS GO!
I think you meant the Habs were shut out 3-0, wasn’t it?
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no, we got shut out, i believe. it was that first loss in that 20-game streak where we kept going 4 wins, 1 loss, 4 wins, 1 loss….
Official Ambassador for Nucks Misconduct.
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler."
GO CANUCKS GO!
in fact, here’s a post from my blog to prove it.
we did beat the habs at gm place 9 days before, but they got vengeance at the bell center.
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GO CANUCKS GO!
sorry missy, not according to the Sun...
Maybe we are getting games mixed up. The one referenced in the article was 3 yrs ago. The one prefaced by the hospital visit Daniel put Luongo through the night before.
Remember? ;-)
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most likely, yes.
i’m talking about last year. the one you have mentioned there is definitely a few years back.
the one i’m talking about is the game after sundin got the shootout winner against toronto last year.
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GO CANUCKS GO!
Hmmmm...
Just looked at the box score for that game (thanks, hockeysummaryproject). Burr received 5 and a game for cross-checking. Guess who one of the officials was?
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it was auger, wasn't it?
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GO CANUCKS GO!
That was
that joke of a call where Brisebois was going to hit Burr high and he got his stick up at the last second to defend himself, another brutal Auger moment.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
ah yes, that cross check was brought up a few times when the Burrows-Auger shit went down
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
I said
4-4.5
as a former union guy, it’s my inclination to meet in the middle
http://waachcast.blogspot.com/ < WAACHCast Blog
dude...
You are saying the over will be Montreal will score 5 on Luongo? At home for him? Knowing he has something to prove after the T.O start?
Really?
Geez…I should start just being a professional gambler. I’d put some $$$ down on the under for THAT number!
;-0
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no
I was referring to the poll
relax
Lu shuts the door tomorrow
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by canucklehead666 on Feb 1, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
ahhh.
Sorry. I thought so!
My mistake. I just posted the numbers after a pull below. He is pretty awesome the game after so far this year!
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A pull below? What the…?
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That’s either a sexual act or a comment thread lingo. Not sure which ;)
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
I feel kinda dirty now...
(runs to the shower, crying)
won’t come clean… need more soap… soap cleanses all… washes away the dirtyyyyy
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by canucklehead666 on Feb 1, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
you guys are hilarious... ;-)
Reading all the innuendo. Ha!
You are right, everyone knows that a pull below happens when one gets “scored on” too much.
Or when a monster tractor doesn’t quite get a “full pull”.
Either one.
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I’m not worried about Kes. They will get a deal done for sure, especially if you think that they are apparently about a million bucks apart. The Sedins last season were apart by both a lot of money and a significant difference in term. It will also serve as motivation for Kelser especially in the playoffs where it would be nice to see him perform.
For me its Luko>Baumer, the plus-minus from Toronto does not take away from a string of plus games for Luko and some points he notched as well. But I’d actually like both over Rome though that looks unlikely.
Not to sound like Don Cherry but
plus 2 minus 1 who the hell cares those are sissy stats. The game is played on the effing ice when the chips are down and who the hell got the GD Game Winning Goal!! LUKO am i right!! – so ya keep luko case closed dummy:)
Don’t even think about starting with me MacLean!!!
MacLean is an honest man with no bias whatsoever
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
I'll kill you
last
Alex Burrows, with 11 goals in his past seven games, was asked if he knew who else has managed that.
He was stumped, but when told it was the Calgary Flames, he roared with laughter.
Why do you
look at me when you say that?
Alex Burrows, with 11 goals in his past seven games, was asked if he knew who else has managed that.
He was stumped, but when told it was the Calgary Flames, he roared with laughter.
I hardly need to respond. Your comment is sick sick sick but my belly is laugh is just subsiding now.
I just wanted to get KK started on MacLean. haha. Just being a pain in the ass.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
why do you
look at me when you say that?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Did you just call yourself a genius? Next thing you know Ryan Johnson will call himself a goal scorer. ;)
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
i was only
serious
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
As blushing will sometimes make a whore pass for a virtuous woman, so modesty may make a fool seem a man of sense. – Jonathan Swift
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
why do you
look at me when you say that?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Just a suggestion. You might want to try it.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
You really are
facetiously challenged aren’t you?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I'm gonna cut the tension
With some WUTANG.
…nobody listen to hiphop? No?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I think hip hop, just like all other music these days, is just bad on the surface, you have to dig a little deeper.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
I used to be big into independent (good) hip hop back then, but even that isn’t as good now.
Poutine & Meatballs
What underground hiphop were you into?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
You were lucky to be raised on those guys.
I’ve been playing catch-up since 2002.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I’ve been into most of them for like a decade now.
It’s incredible how much they’ve grown, musically and in popularity, since then. I was literally the only one around here listening to them at the time.
Poutine & Meatballs
Did you go to Rock The Bells?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Missed out man.
I watched The Roots headline UBC’s AMS Block Party.
Amazing live. Amazing. Only The Roots begin their set with a Tuba solo.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Ohmyword, fellow hiphop heads.
While I love me my metal and all the Metallica references, I wish we’d talk hiphop here a little bit.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I’m rocking Tribe Called Quest right now.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
You guys listen to (good) hiphop up there!
/ignorance
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Can I Kick It?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Can you?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Yes I Can!
(The Anthology, track 4)
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Electric Relaxation
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Good pick.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I have good taste
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
So humble.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
It’s hard to be humble when your this damn good
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
You don’t have much competition.
You are in FSJ.
(don’t hurt me)
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Nail on the head!!
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
You’re like the Caps in the Southeast Division.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I will take that compliment all day.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
You’re welcome.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I owe you one heart felt compliment!! Jurassic 5 on now!!
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
I’m listening to old Common, myself.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
He’s too wrapped up in being a thespian now, I guess.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Eric B and Rakim
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
De La Soul.
This text box is incredibly small.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
or go to the source.
Birth of Cool.
Miles Davis.
Sorry…but I am older!
The TV business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason.
Hunter S. Thompson
De La Soul is incredible.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Michael Franti.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Wating until after the season
means Kes and his agent might as well wait just a bit longer until it’s open season and then Gillisgan will pay more, not less.
Remember this is the guy who took an offer sheet before he had proven to be such a valuable player, Nucks are so thin at centre (unless they think Hodg is going to step into the 2nd line role) that they can’t afford to piss around here, get it done.
Alex Burrows, with 11 goals in his past seven games, was asked if he knew who else has managed that.
He was stumped, but when told it was the Calgary Flames, he roared with laughter.
Hodgson in the 2nd line center role…yes that is realistic. Don’t you think that is an option at least?
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
Not if he hasn’t played hockey in a year. He is at least half of season of AHL hockey next year away from contributing. So much of his growth as a player is being stunted right now.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
All you guys
that put Kes in at under $4.5M might want to have a look at these two lists:
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/sort.php?pos=C&type=none
And that doesn’t even take into account the fact he’s 2nd in the league in takeaways, 6th in blocked shots, 6th in F/O wins, 21st in SHTOI/G.
The guy is the 15th highest scoring centre in the league and a Selke candidate, again, is only 25, big, strong, works his ass off, leads, scores big goals, shuts down the oppositions best, skates like Modano, if he goes to the open market expect to see nothing from him but draft picks.
Alex Burrows, with 11 goals in his past seven games, was asked if he knew who else has managed that.
He was stumped, but when told it was the Calgary Flames, he roared with laughter.
Actually, it might be a good point to make how strong the Penguins are up the middle. That seems to have worked out for the, right?
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Feb 1, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Sure, but he’s also the guy who talked to the media about how players should take pay cuts to help their teams have greater success. I expect him to not be a hypocrite and though he may deserve $5 million or more, I fully expect him to sign for roughly $4.25 million, for 5 years, methinks.
by Canuckk on Feb 1, 2010 7:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He also caught hell for saying that and his agent denied that Kesler would take a home town discount. I perversely think the fact he said that makes it tougher for him to take one.
That's easily
dealth with two, all they have to do is give the Nucks two options:
#1, you want a hometown discount, fine, short term deal that takes him to UFA, which I think would only be 1-2 years in Kes’ case, that would end up costing the Nucks even more.
#2, 6-8 year deal at $5M+, can still easily claim that’s a discount even now let alone when he’s even better and salaries are even higher.
Take your pick Mr. Gillis.
I don’t know maybe I should be a player’s agent?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
truth be told..fuck Kesler’s agent. He’s only looking after himself. Kesler may take less. Also, the Canucks could sign him to a lifer deal and abuse the cap system…..again
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think the number very much depends on the term. He might come cheaper if the term is short 2-3 maybe 4 years. But if you want to buy out the first 3-4 years of his free agent years it will cost more. 5-6 million.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Getzlaf makes 5.25
If Kesler gets within 500k of that, let him walk.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
What happened to pulling a Burrow’s and taking a paycut for the sake of the team?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Let him walk? WTF? Cause GREAT two-way Centers with toughness and speed grow on trees.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
OK, wait, within 500 k is a bit of a stretch. Or is it? I voted 4-4.5 per season. I expect a hometown discount after he ran his mouth last season. His agent can suck it.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
They guy is on pace for 72 points. Plus 10 and he plays against the other teams top players night in and night out. He wins face offs, kills penalties, hits, and block shots. He also draws penalties and is a big time leader in that room. Selke finalist. He is close to the Mike Richards level of player if not at that level. How much does Richards make? Kesler is the PERFECT second line center and the type of second line center that a Stanley Cup contender needs.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Section knows.
What?
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Richards this Richards that. You ready to pay Kesler upwards of $8 million? That’s what Richards is going to make.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not ready to pay him that much. But what makes YOU think that Kesler will or should sign for less than 5 plus?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
His word that he’d accept a discount to play for a team that he said is committed to winning.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah but 5 plus would be a discount. On the open market he is worth 6 plus. His age and potential and what he can bring make him very very valuable.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
I still say that MG should sign him lifetime with a less average cap hit per year. Then he can front-load the deal. I have no problem with that
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
But
get it done already.
Only thing is, where would Hodg fit in with both Hank and Kes locked up?
Maybe that’s where it pays to take the risk of the shorter term deal at a discount in this case…
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good question. Does Hodgson HAVE to play center?
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Don't think
he has the size for wing, personally a guy like that I think you have to leave in his natural position amap, but the way it’s going with him at this point I don’t expect him to stay with the org, if he does, he’ll probably get stuck in a 3rd line role until the inevitable “issues” start.
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Salary
is irrelevant, cap hit is what matters.
Kes isn’t quite in that league, mainly because Richards is a 1st liner and not many teams can afford two centres making that kind of coin, but since Hank is a bargain, and Kes is so good 2-ways I’m guessing it’ll be close, esp if it goes to the open market.
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Yeah that seems fair
If he goes to the open market, yes. But I’m talking hometown discount. Is that unrealistic?
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
A home town discount still puts him above 4.5 million IMHO. For him to be at less than 4.5 he would be taking a 1.5-2.5 million a year discount. No one is going to do that. 1 million a year? Maybe.
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I'm saying
fine take your discount for a deal that takes him to UFA age, 1-2 years I think, then what?
Otherwise even $5M+ could be considered a discount on a long term deal.
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No one is going to do that
Then how do you explain Burrows at $2 million per season for 4 years?
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Burr
had 1 good season playing with the twins, as much as I love him, no way he could do what Kes does without those guys on his line.
Kes gets it done and more whoever they put with him.
Quite simply, Burr would have gotten what on the open market last summer?
And Kes would get what this summer?
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Yeah that seems fair
Burr was doing ok with out the Sedins. Kes and Burr were a one two punch on the second line last year there is not that much to choose between them. It comes down to what do we need going forward.
yoata: good question. I think it’s a loaded question too in some senses. Personally I would not pay Kesler more than $2.5 million per more than Burrows. I wanna see him score 80-90 points before I pay him between 5-6 million. And again, I’m basing my opinion on Kesler’s spouting of getting paid less to make a winning team. If that is ruled out, then sure, some team will pay him $5.5 million or more. I want to dig deeper into my reasoning but I’ve got too much going on right now to do so. Convince me. use other players as examples. Mike Richards is one example, but let’s hear some more. I’m open-minded on this.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
There's not
a centre in the 4.5 – 5 range I would even need to consider over Kes here:
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/sort.php?pos=C&type=none
And certainly in the 5 – 5.5 range there are some you could say he’s not in the same echelon as, but there are just as many that he is most definitely much more valuable than, which to me is why he fits so well in that particular range and not in those below.
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Yeah that seems fair
How does Shawn Horcoff make that much money?
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uh Kevin Lowe
is an idiot for 1000 Alex
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No one is that stupid are they? Horcoff must haev pictures of Lowe dressed up like a Nazi at a sex party.
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Not just
the money either, long term deal for that price, I like Horcoff but that is just horrendous.
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He must have cashed in on that playoff run.
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Lowe
could not get anyone to come to Edmonton, so he certainly could not let his best player walk, so he threw the world at him, no diffferent than Penner, Vanek, etc, one trick pony.
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Absolutely
Burr was doing ok without them but the point is his stock would not be where it is without them, Kes does not have that limiting factor, he makes others better not the other way around.
And I’ll be honest, I have not always been a Kesler fan, when Booby Clarke made that offer I wanted Nonis to take the pick instead of matching, credit to Nonis for seeing the potential.
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Jordan Staal. There. Marc Savard at $5 million.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
?
Meaning what?
I already said there were guys in that 5+ range you could put above Kes, but just as many you could put below.
Staal is in a unique situation where if he wanted to remain part of a dynasty type team he had to take less, that’s what having Crosby+Malkin up the middle affords you, but I wouldn’t say he’s a better player than Kes right now.
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My point was this what else do you think we could do with the money down the road. I am sure that is what Gillis is thinking. Ray May is one that has hit the big time this year what if hansen, hodgson or grabs busts out and becomes top 6. We could need both room and cash to keep them. The team has become something special as a player you pay a home town fee to hang in and be part of an elite team. Burr did it, The twins have too based on this years performance and I expect the same from Kes. OK 4 mil tops I know it a million under what he might get but put up or move along. I would rather see the Nucks be good over the long haul. Kes I love ya buddy but you can be replaced. Lets grow some talent for once. Look at Calgary this shit is pathetic. Who thinks these trades will work out?
I do! Give it a few games!
@ yoata: I couldn’t choose between Staal or Kesler in all honesty. Kesler is better now, yes. But Staal in the Finals last year? Wowza
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 2, 2010 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Thing is
you can’t really compare them $ wise for that very reason, that was Staal’s 2nd deal at that rate, Kes only got $1.75 in his 2nd deal, this next one might well be the most important of his career, Staal has lots of years to make the big bucks.
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We grew
Kes, and now you want to let him walk because he won’t take a big discount off what he’s worth?
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Bulshit!
We’ve got $ to throw away on the likes of Souptin, Bernier, Demitra, Wellwould, etc, but we can’t “afford” to keep the most important players to the team???
Ridiculous.
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Bah! You gonna dwell on Souptin forever? Get over it. Kesler ran is yap on a discount to stay with a winning team. He either does that or he doesn’t. Let’s see him put the money where his mouth is or…fuck him.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 2, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Sean you are still missing the point here. Even if Kesler gives us a hometown discount he will still be well above 4 million per. On the open market he gets 6 easily. Maybe more if someone is desperate (Burkie?) So he gives us a million off and he is still at 4.5+….
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heh
Zandberg said “Souptin”.
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that was a cave on my part wasn’t it? haha
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 4, 2010 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
That deal
was signed 2 years ago.
Look at that list I put up of centres salaries, is he not worth at least as much as a Horcoff, Ribiero or Jokinen? Remember he’s 25 at that age you’re still paying for potential which should still be somewhat untapped, like I said, short term maybe you get him for less but if you want him locked up, it will cost.
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I’m pretty sure that Kesler isn’t going to be signed for longer than the Sedins. Somewhere along the line, I think Gillis said Luongo’s contract will be unique for the team.
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Feb 1, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
Am I the only one who realizes
Kesler is an RFA. If any team signs him to an offer sheet (assuming an extension deal isn’t reached), the Canucks will almost certainly match it.
But if they don’t match, and a team offers him 5.5 million per, they have to give up: Two 1st’s, one 2nd, one 3rd round pick
If they offer him $4-$5 million per, the compensation is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick.
That’s a helluva lot of compensation, no?
I need to learn to read the rest of the comment thread
before flapping my gums.
SBN really needs a delete option…
From one of McIntyre's articles today.
Luongo has been yanked from three starts this season. He is 3-0 with a 1.33 goals-against average and .943 save rate in the games that followed.
We all like Kes’, yoata….believe me.
Its all about that final number…though I voted where the majority on that one…anywhere in the 4-4.5 is cool.
I think he should “man up” on his comments a bit about the “for the team” stuff he was saying like his buddy Burr’ did though.
I seem to remember his agent is the same one for Mo’ and a couple other Canucks in the past…he likes to “give good soundbyte”, and negotiate in the media.
Just another thing for MG to deal with on this one. Luongo, and the Sedins both had reps that didn’t chat it up with TEAM 1040 guys at every opportunity.
Kes’ does. Oh well…who’s Raymond’s agent?
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dan pulling out the wowser stats. I will quote you, my friend.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Quote Ian.
His articles have been good lately, for a change!
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The "numbers"
just don’t add up there dan, Kes was top 10 in the league in SHTOI, blocked shots and takeaways last year too, so you can’t even try to claim it was a fluke, the guy is one of the best 2-way forwards in the game and whatever his agent has to say, you can bet some team will step to the plate with a fat offer sheet this summer to get him.
Remember he’s only 25, should still get better, you have to pay for that too, I think he fits in the 5 – 5.5 range but may be had for a bit less on a long term deal. We got a steal for Burr but that’s partly because he only had the one big year, Kes has had two now and is younger, and plays a bigger role as a center, without the help of the twins, and like I said, Kes and his rep have shown the balls to look elsewhere before, no reason not to again if Gillisgan wants to take the chance, like I said, he’ll only pay more or end up with draft picks imo.
This is why teams don’t wait for a guy to be in his last year to get him locked up, they do it the year before these days.
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Yeah that seems fair
I think a big reason we got the steal on Burrows is that Burrows knows he’s not going to get a ton of points unless he’s on the Sedin line. Without the Sedins he doesn’t put up nearly as many points and becomes basically just an agitator type.
I voted 4-4.5 mil but now I think Kesler should make 5. I think maybe Gillis is waiting because Kesler is so good at home but for some reason struggles to score points on the road. Seeing as we’re in the middle of a huge road trip he probably thinks his “value” may go down a bit.
If its in the 5-5.5.
That’s multiple 1st rounders, no?
I agree with everything you are saying on Kes’. I wasn’t even really comparing him and Burrows. That was more a dig at that “so last decade” stuff, as missy called it…
I want him to stay too. Its all in who you compare him with…its all relative. Thats why they have multiple guys on the staff trying to figure it out.
I think he signs a partly “for the team” number of 4.33 over 5 years.
Still doubles his salary. A number we can live with, he can, and still not be “every last cent”.
Though I so prefer its going to be put off so as not to be a distraction now, I can’t help but think we see his deal, and maybe Raymond’s deal, done by the deadline, or not until after the season.
I just find it hard to believe if they want to get it done, so to speak…that the parties involved would of course pick up the phone to make it happen.
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Multiple 1st rounders
would require a deal in excess of $6M per iirc.
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Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
The bet is where we think the cap will be at in 2 or 3 seasons. That’s what putting numbers to paper now rests on, for players like Kes and Ray. If we guess wrong, we may box ourselves in a few seasons down the road.
The economy is booming! The cap will rise! Woo!
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
The expected 2009-2010 numbers, according to Andy Strickland
Offer Sheet (AAV)
$994,433 or below
None (compensation)
$994,433 to $1,506,717
3rd Round Pick
$1,506,718 to $3,013,433
2nd Round Pick
$3,013,434 to $4,520,150
1st, 3rd
$4,520,151 to $6,026,867
1st, 2nd, 3rd
$6,026,868 to $7,533,584
(2) 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Over
$7,533,585 – and up
(4) 1st Round Picks
2-0 Flyers
Sutter must be pissed.
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heh
Bouwmeester is filling Phanoops skates already!
-2 so far…
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That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
Yeah I’m watching the game with a grin. Good thing they traded away for all that secondary scoring. Snicker snicker.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
It does mean
that they are not out of it at 2-0 like they used to be though.
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Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
It’s only the first game! Chemistry is not born overnight.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Hey now. Don’t rain on my parade. If I want to claim a new way to laugh at the Flames, leave me be, man.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
But making fun of them is so much fun. Party pooper.
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You tell’em, girl whose first name has eight words and last name has seven words and.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
(Maury finger snap)
Hahah, Richards with another goal. This is fun.
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This is sweet. I have Richards in my pool. Assuming Flames don’t get a goal, looks like I’ll have a 2 goals, +1, game winning goal, and a pp goal from him tonight.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
I have Emery as my random goalie. I activated him just in time for tonight.
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Haha… I picked Craig Anderson as my 3rd string goalie! Also got Nabokov, Dank, Hossa, Plekanec, Keith, and plenty of other goodies… did I mention I’m 1st place (of 14 players) in my pool?
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
2nd of 15
My wingers and centremen are holding the fort. My goalies suck. I didn’t get to pick my team :(
You can stop showing off now XD
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It is with just less than 4 minutes in the 3rd I think!
I am saying Ova!
Sorry Sean…did our little wager turn you into a defacto Flamers fan?
hilarious!
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2:21 left
Bourque just took a penalty.
Joke inen looks grumpy.
Ova!
Richards just scored.
3-0.
Ha!
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Oh wow
Getting shut out after adding all that offense would be hilarious.
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From what I’ve seen, their new acquisitions weren’t half bad tonight.
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Jokinen and Iginla were AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWFUL
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
I hate that Kes is up for contract. It’s always hard to put a number on a guy like Kes. I’m glad I don’t have Gillis’ job.
What?
Would LOVE to have that job.
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Well I got the pistols so I'll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
I’m too emotionally involved with the team, i think i’d cry if kes left the team and that wouldn’t make me a very good negotiator lol
Ya doormat. Get some balls XD.
Forget negotiating, the media scrutiny would drive you crazy.
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No no. They’re going to flip Kotalik for Kovalchuk.
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by Section 312 on Feb 1, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
With booing.
And trading for more offense and getting shutout.
With less than 20 shots ( I think 15-16 ).
.giggling uncontrollably…
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Guys + giggling…the picture in my head is so not alpha male.
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by eightyseven on Feb 1, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
It is a strange new world.
rec’d.
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I haven’t seen an alpha male in Vancouver since………
Never mind.
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
Fucking metrosexuals.
I blame the Pride Parade corrupting all those alpha males…
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Zing! Hey, bet is still on dan. I have no fear!
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
I blame American television.
QEFTSG.
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
Shutout by Emery.
Double the pwn.
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I don't care how much they pay him - it's not my money
Just keep him on the team and stay under the cap in the process.
Kesler is one of those guys who steps up when the Burrdin line gets shut down.
This team is complete, don’t fuck with it, don’t lose anyone, don’t gain anyone.
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
Correction: lose Bieksa.
Team now complete.
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
I don’t know….a slightly less stupid defenseman?
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
Less stupid? He was All-Academic twice for Bowling Green. Guy is smarter than all of us, even smarter than yoata thinks he is.
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by Section 312 on Feb 1, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Awsnap, fight!
Still though, someone tell him he’s a defenseman first, pseudo-offensive power second.
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Was he not playing with Mitchell last year and at times thie year on a very effective shut down pair? No one gives him props when he has a good game. He just gets ripped to shreds after a bad one. He is the exact opposite of Bernier.
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He’s good and all. Just very expensive.
On the whole, I think our defensemen are slightly overpaid. My love, Edler, most especially.
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Bieksa is Jovo 2. He is not a smart player consistently enough for my liking.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Jovo 2 for 3.75 isn’t a horrible deal. I’d wanna see him back with big thick willy for awhile.
by Passive Voice on Feb 1, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
You would talk big thick willies with Zandberg. You’re sauce.
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Book smarts don’t apply when you’re taking an unnecessary penalty with 5 minutes left in a crucial tied game.
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
Like a hooking call in the offensive zone? Better ship off the Sedins.
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"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Good idea, let’s put that to a vote.
Get rid of Bieksa or get rid of the Sedins?
Panel?
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
I’m just saying. Guys take bad penalties. It happens. Bieksa does a good job and eats a lot of minutes while putting up some numbers offensively. He makes the occassional mistake, like my spelling, but he does a good job overall.
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"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Wikipedia says:
“[Bieksa] graduated from Bowling Green University in 2004 with a bachelor’s degree in finance and a 3.42 grade point average.”
He makes me feel like such an underachiever.
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Must be tough to get grades like that, play hockey, and do keg stands.
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"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Or pay ghostwriters.
Well look at that, your cynicism is contagious.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Oh man. They get it easy. There are guys who travel with the teams and administer the tests. Most of the time they help the guys do the tests. But you still have to be bright to get grades like that.
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bachelor’s degree in finance
would that be in the faculty of business or the faculty of sciences? (i’m working on a combined major in financial mathematics and economics in the faculty of science)
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Business/Commerce in most schools.
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by thelastjohnny on Feb 1, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
exactly.
now, what sounds easier: business courses or calculus and physics?
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This aspiring dentist wouldn’t know.
I could barely stomach Pre-calc and Stats. Missy, halp me.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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I could barely stomach Pre-calc and Stats.
But you’re down with digging around in people’s foodholes all day?
by Passive Voice on Feb 1, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
Calculus and Physics, honestly. But maybe that’s why I’m majoring that way.
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Feb 1, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Bowling Green
Offers a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration, Finance.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Is Bowling Green a good University?
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
large public university in the states, ~90% acceptance rate, so probably not anything special.
/gross generalization? probably
by Passive Voice on Feb 1, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Replace Sammy with Grabner, replace Bernier with Sammy, move Bernier to 4th line.
Complete.
by Bobby Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
I like that idea. What an expensive 3rd line tho! Better give them more minutes!
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 2, 2010 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
Regarding cap hits:
Does the CBA prevent salaries tied to the salary cap? Something like, you get xx% of the salary cap. I think it’d make things too simple.
And don’t forget the players aren’t getting salary stability anyway, because of the escrow fluctuations.
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
That’s a good idea, but it aint how it works.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
New formula for NHL player compensation
$100,000 base salary + additional $100,000 for each plus point in the +/- category.
No deductions for being a crappy player at -35.
Instilling teamwork?
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
And unicorns lead the teams out before every game. And just before puck drop a pixie and an elf sing the national anthem of Atlantis. Santa Claus circles the stands delivering peanuts and beer while the tooth fairy waits stands on the bench in case of injury.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
You cynic.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Most of us alpha males are cynics. ;)
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
They do exist! XD
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I haven’t shaved in two weeks cause I am man enough to be ruggedly good looking.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Or just capable of growing facial hair, period.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Well probably just laziness. But whatever. It’s rugged.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
You lazy enough to grow it Matisyahu long, a la Knocked Up?
It’d be a fun place to keep your pencils.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
No I ma not that lazy. I sometimes I go out in public for work. Don’t want to look like a terrorist.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Are you one of those “playoff bear grower” types?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I am indeed. You kind of have to if you want to get on a bus with a group of hockey players during the playoffs and not get made fun of.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
and I’m a playoff bear growler.
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Feb 1, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Just a crazy outside the box idea….nothing more.
Now if we could just figure out a way to tie Bettman’s salary to performance.
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
I like the idea. Just think it’s as far fetched as a unicorn. Sports would be better in that world though.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
Looks like the worst movie ever.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
then again, there was The Love Guru. the NHL should blow hollywood up; they’re fucking ruining hockey’s rep.
by Passive Voice on Feb 1, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
I never saw The Love Guru, but at the time I said it looked like the worst movie ever. And now The Tooth Fairy is gobbling up that title quicker than a Thai hooker on a John’s balls.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
ever read the Onion’s guide to the world (whatever it was called)?
[shows a decently pretty lady with enormous breasts] “This Thai prostitute boasts an impressive nine-inch penis.”
by Passive Voice on Feb 1, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
I thought the correct response when you see Mr. Johnson and say " I think…" is
“IT DOESN”T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!"
The TV business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason.
Hunter S. Thompson
Doom anyone?
Yeah, that was a waste.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
update on calgary/new york trade
bob mckenzie tweeted that the trade call is happening right now….
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and darren dreger just updated too
his tweet sounds like the deal is finalized.
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So the rest of the Flames are gone too?
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
well, just jokinen and prust..... for now.....
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Jeebus, save some of his players for the deadline.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I can smeel the desperation wafting all the way from Calgary up here in Fort St John. It’s hard to tell apart from my own desperation smell but it’s there.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."
you smell the pulp mill(s) south of you, ha!
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. Taylor, BC. Smells like the devil is coming. Then it’s Prince George. Foulest smelling place in BC.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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let's just wait and see what happens
i still suspect that sutter is trying to pull off a deal for kovalchuk….
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They’re saving Jared Iginla for March 3rd.
Expectations are to bring in Cindy Crosby and Alex Ovechkin (can’t make fun of his name for some reason).
NEED OFFENSE!
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
I just made that up, and I am very proud of myself. Thank you.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Lexy sounds sexier.
Cindy and Lexy. Like Betty and Veronica.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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Man, they’ve really lost all semblance of any sense of humour over at Matchsticks. You should see their conversations of despair upon despair. And they’re so snappy.
Yeah, my friend’s a bit upset. I think they’re going to be touchy for awhile.
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Feb 1, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
You’d be touchy too if your favorite team’s GM just brought in Kotalik to play with your star player.
I know I’d be livid if that were GMGM’s answer for a line mate for Ovechkin.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Steckel, you still there?
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Yeah, I’m still in Japan (assuming that’s what you mean). I’m here for the next four months.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
No,sorry. I was asking if you had any comment about what Alan May said about Green’s suspension, or should I just go over to Japer’s and read about it.
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Oh I missed what Alan May said. Was it the one about the Canadian media hates Green?
Seems fairly accurate considering how his game is so commonly misrepresented by the media.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Basically he said the Canadian media, specifically Toronto, influenced the decision to give Green 3 games. Please tell me you’re not agreeing with that tripe.
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No, I don’t agree with that.
I think the NHL’s disciplinary system’s incompetence influenced the decision.
In a vacuum it was a well deserved suspension, and the length is fine. But it didn’t happen in a vacuum. In light of other hits that have not gone suspended, particularly worse elbows (Goocher on Clutterbuck, Ruutu on Kaleta), the decision is bullshit.
However, if this leads to the league actually manning up and cracking down on headshots, as well as making consistent disciplinary decisions, I won’t be angry about the decision. But I know that won’t happen, so the NHL disciplinary committee can go jump off a bridge.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
And Malkin boarding Mitchell. I guess Mitchell should’ve laid on the ground longer and maybe he would’ve been suspended.
Yeah. The TSN media (it was TSN media, right?) was wrong when they were saying it was easily the worst elbow of the season, and I’m sure that was influenced by their dislike of Green. But I definitely think Gonchar’s was worse.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m pretty sure May singled out TSN. Why do you feel the Canadian media have a hate-on for Green?
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Not necessarily a hate on. But they stick to this idea that Green is the worst player ever in his own zone. Certainly there are stronger in his own zone, but he is by no means terrible. The media seems to cling to this and harp on it every chance they get, and don’t highight certain things.
They ignore that Green makes a lot of plays that don’t really look like battles due to his speed. He’s able to beat players to the puck before it’s even a battle on the boards.
Also, by the very nature of his game (carrying the puck more than most D), his mistakes are going to be more noticeable, and seemingly more common.
I just thing his defensive game gets crucified far more than it deserves.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
I think all offensive D-men get painted with the same brush. Orr, Coffey et al were treated more like 4th forwards than competent defenders. Back in the day, the Canucks had a player by the name of Dennis Kearns, good puck mover, good offense, but the fans rode him endlessly for not being a hard hitting, shut down D-man. I almost felt bad for the guy.
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And I don’t think their talking influenced whoever it was making the decision.
(Campbell sucks, but he gets a pass on this one.)
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
new tweet from mckenzie
apparently jokinen and prust just got escorted to sutter’s office by a pr person….
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Sounds like the Flames are running a tight ship. No leaks coming out of that organization.
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Kovalchuk…god I can’t wait until that saga is over with. That fukker should go to the KHL and rot as far as I’m concerned. He can’t go to the Rangers..they have no $$
He can’t go to Toronto because they have no draft picks left. Hmm….he should go to Florida.
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 1, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Hey now we’d all still happily take Kovy for the ’nucks if a sensible deal could be made. I just am pretty sure that aint possible.
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
No bloody way. Dont mess with the chemistry. We dont need a Russian floater. This team goes to the nasty areas to score even Wellwood trys. We dont need a prima dona.
NEED NEWER TWEET NOW!!!
AARRGGHHH!! TWEETS NOT COMING FAST ENOUGH….GETTING ANGRY!!!
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
the deal is done, mckenzie is calling it a night, and someone will be doing a full report on it from calgary on tsn sportscenter at 11 pm PST
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“The deal, which sees Olli Jokinen and Brandon Prust heading to Manhattan in exchange for Chris Higgins and Ales Kotalik, was reportedly held up because the Flames wanted Jokinen in the lineup for tonight’s game against the Flyers. Jokinen played just over 15 minutes, took three shots on net and finished at a minus-one. Prust skated just over seven minutes.”
Way to leave with a bang.
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one question: if kotalik had a limited NTC in his contract, does calgary inherit that clause as well? that would be hilarious if it was their plan to flip him to altanta and he blocks it
They do inherit the clause, but it’s unlikely that a problem occurs. IIRC his limited NTC only has 3 teams, one of which was Calgary (or that’s what was reported). So there’s only 2 other teams that are options for it to be a problem.
But it could happen.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously I’m not privy to the details of the contract, but that’s what was being reported in all the trade talks yesterday. So if that turns out to be wrong, don’t slay the messenger!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Looking at Calgary’s projected first line (Kotalikmyballs – Stajan – Iggy Pop) makes me laugh.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 1, 2010 10:54 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
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If Gillis lets Kesler and Raymond walk away Im going to kill someone.
Sutter is taking an axe to the Flames, holy shit. Ive never seen anything like this. Possibly a move in a sequence of moves in an effort to land Frolov, Kovy, Lecavalier?
If this is his last move, the Flames and his job are done. Also all the moves hes made seem like a bit much for a simple quest for Frolov.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 1, 2010 11:08 PM PST reply actions
This can’t be it for the flailmes. There is NO FUCKING WAY anyone would make the deal they just made if they didn’t have something else in the works. Absolutely NO FUCKING WAY.
Whole new level of stupid based on the surface level trades.
Then again, if they do have some magnificent plan in the works, they’d challenge our division. Maybe even contend, tehe.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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It’s weird, but I can empathize with Flames fans. They’re utterly bewildered. There must be something more. There muuuuust be.
by Passive Voice on Feb 1, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
Their D isn’t any worse. They have more top 9 forwards than they had before and they got rid of the dead weight that was Jokinen. They should be better.
If I was a Flame fan though I would be wishing my team still have Cammalleri.
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I’d be wishing they still had Alex Tanguay.
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Go mention that on M&G.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
They’re likely to start shooting people soon over there. Watch out if you value your life!
by Beantown Canuck on Feb 1, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
BC, isn’t it after # in the Big Apple? Oh right, the city that never sleeps.
As opposed to Maple Ridge, the city that time forgot.
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Yeah. It’s pretty sad how quickly that team declined.
“Destiny doesn’t win games” though. I heard that from some commercial.
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