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How The Canucks Are Penalized

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In past seasons we (by which I mean yours truly) have bemoaned what a PIM-happy parade Vancouver games turn into. Some of that is on the players who get lazy or have trouble keeping their emotions in check. Other times it's Vigneault who can't keep his own bench under control. Maybe Newell Brown really is a demi-god because not only are the special teams significantly improved, but their PIMs per game is down to a mere 12.6, good enough for 12th best in the league.

Have the boys finally decided to focus on hockey for a change rather than stroke their pugilistic urges?

Let's take a quick look at who is taking what type of penalty. After the leap you'll see Vancouver is a hook-happy team and a surprise winger holds the only charging call as we move towards the winter months.

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If you view the site in the narrow view, the table below is probably mucking up the site alignment or getting cut off on the right side. I suggest flipping to wide for the sake of viewing and sorting the table.

Fight
Board
Charge
Elbow Rough Hold Hold/Stick
Hook
Intf
Goal Intf
Trip
XCheck
HiStickSlash
CloseHandUnsports
Glass
4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Rypien
3 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Bieksa
2 1 0 2 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 1 1 0
Ballard
2 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
Desbiens 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Torres
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0
Alberts
0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Bolduc
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
Hansen
0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 2
Kesler
0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 0
Tambellini
0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
Edler
0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0
Raymond
0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rome
0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
Ehrhoff
0 0 0 0 0 3 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0
Hamhuis
0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0
D. Sedin
0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 0 1 1 0 0
H. Sedin
0 0 0 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
Burrows
0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Samuelsson
0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 2 0 1 1 1 2 0 0
Malhotra
0 0 0 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Click the header to sort each column

I excluded misconducts and game misconducts (those explain why Rypien leads the team in PIMs but is pretty quiet above), Peter Schaefer since he's off the roster and I dropped the instigator (Torres had the only call). Otherwise penalties missing above are because Vancouver hasn't been cited committing that specific offense.

That's right haters, you see diving? Me either. In fact there have been only 11 diving calls this year and the lone correlation is both Ruutu brothers have one a piece.

Some thoughts:

  • It's not surprising that the most frequent calls fall under the restraining category (at least as CBS describes it) as the Canucks aren't overly aggressive this season. Instead some guys get caught cheating when the puck movement changes quickly. Others get caught with lazy stick or obstruction calls. Your most frequent Vancouver penalties: hooking (19), interference (15) and holding (14).
  • These types of calls also fall under the TSP (Token Swedish Penalty) quite easily, though the Swedes differ in their approaches (Hank's a hooker, Edler & Dank are trippers and Sammy's a hooking/slashing/interfering triple threat).
  • Rome and an unsportsmanlike call strikes me as an odd pairing. It was the end of the Ottawa game when he mixed it up with Michalek who received the same penalty.
  • The Hoff is a holder. A cuddler off the ice perhaps?
  • Your equal opportunity offender is Kevin Bieksa who is second on the team in PIMs and appears in nine of the above sixteen categories. Juicy.
  • Raise your hand if you're shocked Vancouver only has one charging penalty and it's to Tambellini. Oh stop lying, just raise your damn hand.
  • I'm also surprised only Torres has a goalie interference call. It increases my respect for Kesler since he often lives in the crease - especially on the PP - and knows what line not to cross or knows how to fool the zebras.
  • Speaking of Kesler, he and buddy Burrows are fairly quiet this season. Burr has five minors and Kesler one more with six.
  • The Kyle Wellwood of the group (not in girth of course) is Raymond who has a paltry two PIMs to his name and that was from an early November game against Colorado.
  • Both goalies, Parent, Perrault, Bliznak and Andersson have no PIMs.

This type of penalty breakdown has more value at the end of the year and in context with the rest of the league, but for now it provides a small glimpse into what Vancouver's transgressions tend to occur most frequently and, of course, which don't.

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I'm not surised about Tambo

He’s a like a baby beast out there! He goes after everyone! He’d check Old Growth Redwood Trees if he had a chance!

by Canuckles on Dec 9, 2010 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

It’s not a knock against Tambellini as much as I’m surprised no one else has been called for it. Especially a bottom six winger like Torres or Hansen.

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by Yankee Canuck on Dec 9, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

from that perspective

you are definitely right. But knowing Tambo, I am not surprised at all lol…

by Canuckles on Dec 9, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Jank Hansen: Not a Sportsman.

by Passive Voice on Dec 9, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Me neither

I can certainly see him taking a run at someone. When you are a foot shorter than everyone else on the ice, you have to do SOMETHING to make up the difference.

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by Jevant on Dec 10, 2010 5:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Anothing thing of note

Glass and Rypien have relatively low non-fighting penalties. Rypien has 2 fighting Penalties and Glass only has a couple too.

I like that stat. It means they are honest players who play hard and give it their all without putting their team down. I’m more surprised you didn’t mention that over anything else.

by Canuckles on Dec 9, 2010 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

course, ryp has played like 5 games at pi minutes/game, so his rate is just about the highest on the team. for reference, he takes penalties at the same rate as Cun-, uh, Corey Perry.

by Passive Voice on Dec 9, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Just let your real feelings out. Keeping them bottled up inside is not good for you. Missy should be busy studying anyways.

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by Vancouverguy on Dec 10, 2010 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

i don’t mind cursing. hell, i do it all the fucking time!

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by missy on Dec 10, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

just make sure you always put a title on images you post.

Man she’s fucking creepy when you forget to do that.

by Canuckles on Dec 10, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

tee hee.

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by missy on Dec 10, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know if I’d say “creepy”. Maybe more like, “disappointedly upset”

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 10, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

no no

creepy she just appears and says

“you forgot a title”

and that’s it. It’s like you’re enjoying your day all fine and then suddenly this girl appears out of nowhere and says “you forgot a title” and then rips your face off and eats your brains.

It’s creepy.

by Canuckles on Dec 10, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

tee hee

you never know when i’m lurking around….. ;)

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by missy on Dec 10, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to take a stab and say “most of the time” :)

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 10, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

that did

not work out quite how I planned

by Canuckles on Dec 10, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Now who

Has the epic fail?

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 10, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

not nearly

as epic as yours yesterday, but yes, fail nonetheless. The image didn’t show!

by Canuckles on Dec 10, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Then everyone says titties because they think it looks like titles.

by marcness52 on Dec 10, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

what

titties? Did someone say titties?

by Canuckles on Dec 10, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting stuff...

It might also be good to see these numbers adjusted for ice time or # of shifts. I have a feeling this might’ve been already been done, except not segregated by type of penalty

by intheloo on Dec 9, 2010 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

Good point on the shifts. It would give you a good PIM/MIN ratio, I’ll keep that in mind when I update this later on.

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by Yankee Canuck on Dec 9, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

2008-2009 Shane O'Brien

I don’t miss you.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Dec 9, 2010 4:00 PM PST reply actions  

i do miss the 2009-2010 one though.

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by missy on Dec 9, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Less penalties

more cocaine.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Dec 9, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My mistake

Ive only been away from classes for 2 days, god help me.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Dec 9, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It's amazing

How quickly you use it when you don’t use it!

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 9, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

/facepalm

How quickly you lose it

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 9, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

epic fail.

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by Section 312 on Dec 9, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I tried to save it

by hitting cancel while it was posting, but it went through too quick…

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 9, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

words cannot

describe how epic that fail was

Semi hits multi-degenerator and loses 2 levels
-2 to int
+2 to fail

by Canuckles on Dec 9, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Another awesome yankee post

That is all.

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by Twitchy2010 on Dec 9, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

It amuses me

That Tambo has the only charging call. I guess he needs to get a little elevated…

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 9, 2010 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

BOOM

REC’D FOR MAKING FUN OF MLSE

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Dec 9, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

make it green make it green!

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by Vancouverguy on Dec 10, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

That charging penalty

was just last game and it was a completely BS call.

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by skeeter_dan on Dec 9, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

It was BS, but still amusing for the fact that someone thought Tambo could actually charge someone

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 9, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing that I wished the NHL tracked was penalties drawn. I know you or Sean did something like that earlier this year/last year, where you did a penalty +/- thing. But it would be a lot easier if they took note of that, and would be interesting.

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 9, 2010 4:58 PM PST reply actions  

BTN has you covered

NHL: http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?c=0+1+3+5+41+42+43+44+45+46

Vancouver: http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?f1=2010_s&f2=5v5&f5=VAN&c=0+1+3+5+41+42+43+44+45+46

Penalties drawn and taken is huge, but it’s still a bit early to see the effect. As you can see, many are barely plus or minus one in either direction.

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by Yankee Canuck on Dec 9, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course

It’s already out there :) Thanks

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 9, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

nice! +1

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by Sean Zandberg on Dec 9, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice post.

It’s interesting to see how they get their penalties. A lot of ticky-tack stuff that were not as much before the lockout, lol.

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by cyxj on Dec 9, 2010 7:39 PM PST reply actions  

No hooking penalties for Dank??? So much for them being identical twins. I coulda swore Dank was a hooking machine. But it’s Hank. Relinquish the captaincy, asshat! :)

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by Sean Zandberg on Dec 9, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

Only 11 diving calls in the whole league so far? That’s messed up. Lou has dove at least 2X that amount! They just don’t call it. Gad I’m so snarky today,

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by Sean Zandberg on Dec 9, 2010 7:43 PM PST reply actions  

I think it’s stupid the way the call them now though. If they call a dive they call the other guy who tripped/hooked or whatever as well. If it was a dive then the other guy shouldn’t go off as well.

by marcness52 on Dec 9, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of penalties, Joe Pelletier found a wacky pic of Hillbilly Jim with Bob Probert on Ebay.

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by Sean Zandberg on Dec 9, 2010 7:53 PM PST reply actions  

Great post. Rec city.

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by Jevant on Dec 10, 2010 5:03 AM PST reply actions  

How much does the loss of SOB impact the change in mentality?

Is there any merit to the thought that by getting rid of SOB the culture of the room was altered a bit? Without “that guy” going off in the room about getting people back, and creating a culture of PIMs, is it easier for the rest of the team to keep their cool?

Basically – does the loss of the (generally assumed to be) hothead in the dressing room result in fewer penalties overall and a change in culture?

Answer: probably not that much. But I’d be interested in hearing what everyone else has to say.

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by Jevant on Dec 10, 2010 7:38 AM PST reply actions  

I heard Shorty and co

Talking about how Kes has quieted down on the ice as well in terms of not chirping the other team and trying to be a better on ice leader. Is it too much to hope that maybe they learned from Games 3 and 4 vs the Hawks last year, and they realized that they needed to settle it down a bit?

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by Semi_Colon on Dec 10, 2010 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

That makes sense as well.

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by Jevant on Dec 10, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Alberts only having 9 penalties also surprise me. The 4 interference calls tells me that he’s doing something stupid, taking needless penalties… but on the other hand, look at his holding/hooking calls. At 1 each, that’s indicative that he isn’t getting beat 1-on-1 as often, and probably doing a much better job keeping in front of opposing forwards.

Good job, NHLberts. I’d take that type of contributions from a bottom 6 guy, although he could try to make his +/- a little better.

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by Vancouverguy on Dec 10, 2010 7:54 AM PST reply actions  

Great post!

Love articles like this, fun AND informative!

by Sandwich76 on Dec 10, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

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