A Bit of Squid (October 4th)
Well, the cuts sure came yesterday, didn't they? Trimming the roster by 6 players has allowed us to much more easily see who is making the team (unless Gillis is just pulling moves to get under the cap for opening night, in order to then put Alexandre Burrows and Sami Salo on LTIR and bring other people back....). We will hear more on that in the next week, as well as more info on that little captaincy issue we've been discussing all summer...
(By the way, in case anyone's wondering, Bob McKenzie just confirmed that Shane O`Brien and Darcy Hordichuk bith cleared waivers. UPDATE: According to a couple sources now, Joel Perrault is now on waivers.)
Links after the jump.
- Added: From @benkuzma: "Flames sign former Canuck Morrison to one-year, $750,000 US contract." Alas, this is what we didn't want to see...
- Last night's scores, and today's games.
- Mattias Ohlund will be out for about 2 weeks with a knee injury.
- According to a text message to CSNPhilly from the man himself, the Flyers released Bill Guerin this morning.
- And the new captain for the Anaheim Ducks is..... Ryan Getzlaf.
- Finally, NHL.com previews the Canucks.
- Which teams will compete for best in the West this year?
- Claude Noel talks about yesterday's Moose cuts.
- What's this? Puck Daddy is now doing weekly recaps of Battle of the Blades???
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cuz we all need a good sound virus now and then. It’s in my head and misery loves company. The words are easy tho.
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
haha, i didn’t realize it was them who did it! that song rules.
Nucks Misconduct chief babe, now with a new Twitter username.
Keep your stick on the ice. Seriously, keep it on the ice, or you'll take another hooking penalty and put the Canucks back on the kill!
Some songs are timeless
I remember that song from when I was really little on a different show. This version came years later (although really it’s exactly the same)
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Oh Captain, My Captain?
Surprisingly little chatter about this issue recently. Kinda surprised. I assume one will be named this week?
Perhaps the relative quiet is because Hank is a foregone conclusion, and perhaps that has been confirmed somewhere, but I have to say I’m a bit surprised at the general low humm surrounding this issue.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Yes I love it! Now what do you suppose it should mean?
Maybe the clam is like some sort of clairvoyant, who warns that a storm is a-coming?
As in, “Chuckles was the clam before the storm… he knew Calgary fucked long before the injuries piled up”
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You
should be NM’s PR man.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
“eat the clam before the storm… of red tide” ?
by SteveNux on Oct 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BAHAHAHAHA
MORE GOLD FROM STEVENUX. REC’D LIKE HASSELHOFF’S LIVER.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 5, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really
any reason for ripples about this nonissue is there?
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Nonissue?
I think it’s a reasonably significant issue, and generally is for the media at least. I suppose the roster cuts are taking precedence right now.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Well my point being
it’s not worth getting worked up about. It will be hank, or it will be kes. Does anyone have a real problem with either choice? We all have a preference, but no one’s going to grind their teeth over either option. That’s what I meant by non-issue. The media in this town loves to make mountains out of tiny little mole-hills…the fans don’t need to.
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
they said one will be named in time for opening night.
Nucks Misconduct chief babe, now with a new Twitter username.
Keep your stick on the ice. Seriously, keep it on the ice, or you'll take another hooking penalty and put the Canucks back on the kill!
I made a fanshot
for Captaincy speculationzzzzzz.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Hosea Cheung hosea24hours
Joel Perrault has been put on waivers by the #Canucks (via @SunGarrioch)
Nucks Misconduct chief babe, now with a new Twitter username.
Keep your stick on the ice. Seriously, keep it on the ice, or you'll take another hooking penalty and put the Canucks back on the kill!
i’m waiting for confirmation before i add it to the squid.
Nucks Misconduct chief babe, now with a new Twitter username.
Keep your stick on the ice. Seriously, keep it on the ice, or you'll take another hooking penalty and put the Canucks back on the kill!
Scratchard gets waived by STL too. Poor dude, it’s like a rite of passage for him every fall.
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
So
much moving… his wife must be so pissed.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe she likes to gets around.
I mean: she likes it in different places
I mean: she’s a philanderer
I mean: She’s a globetrotter
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, thank you
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
http://twitter.com/capgeek/status/26380550217
#canucks about $1.8m over the cap after latest moves, but LTIR for Burrows/Salo will easily get them under
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Well, yeah, tell me something I don’t know.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
We have other readers sir.
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Next summer we’ll open a new blog chronicling all the things you don’t know ok? :)
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
‘things beantown doesn’t know’ might be a significantly more content heavy than, say ‘things section doesn’t know’.
(now let’s see if anyone get’s that)
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
I got it.
Section is going to flame you now.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Starting Burrows on LTIR means they can exceed the cap by up to $2m at the start of the season.
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Oct 4, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand
we’re under.
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
??
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
The cap
/crickets.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you mean with Burrows/Salo on the LTIR?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Yes.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah
I thought you were hinting that you knew about some new waiver/trade that would put us under without using the LTIR….
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Well
we just traded the whole first line for Alexander Ovechkin, so that will help.
/giggles at own joke.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
we just traded the whole first line for Alexander Ovechkin,
Great…now we’ll win everything but cups and olympics.
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Who needs those anyways?
Jeremy Roenick does fine without any of those things.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Getz
is a great choice for captain. I was 100% sure they’d pick him.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions
Answer to CoHo still in camp?
So if we follow The lastjohnny and Chuck above and say that starting Burrows on LTIR at the beginning will give $2 mil relief in the short term (and that’s all that is needed for a month or so until he gets back) we Are under the cap.
Now when the season starts or 1 game later Salo gets moved to LTIR his whole 3.5 will be given as an relief to the cap. Burrows come off the LTIR (2million) leaving 1.5 mill of extra and that covers CoHo at 1.66 mil?
Does that make sense?
You
should be a Wall Street banker.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t CoHo have to make all his bonuses to earn the $1.66? I’m asking without looking at cap geek. And if that were the case that would count against next year’s salary cap
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Check pg 260-1 of the CBA, it lists the potential bonuses that make up almost half of his salary ($850,000).
(i) Ice time (aggregate and/or per Game). Player must be among top six (6) forwards on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group). (Note: an Entry Level SPC may contain bonuses for both aggregate and per Game ice time; however, the maximum aggregate amount the Player may receive on account of the ice time category is $212,500.)
(ii) Goals: 20 Goal Minimum
(iii) Assists: 35 Assist Minimum
(iv) Points: 60 Point Minimum
(v) Points Per Game: .73 Points Per Game Minimum (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played)
(vi) Plus-Minus Rating: Among top three (3) forwards on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).
(vii) End-of-Season NHL All-Rookie Team
(viii) NHL All-Star Game (selected to play or plays)
(ix) NHL All-Star Game MVP
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
My firm is one of the 10 largest in the world… we cover almost all practice areas, certainly all the large ones. The stuff I do is corporate transactional work, and in particular I largely have done large-scale loan financing agreement (but as a very junior associate, I do whatever work comes my way).
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
bowels of the beast eh, all my clients are Class Action or mass tort firms. Typically the specialized 1 -15 attorney firms.
i shivered a bit there
memories of tort law courses way back in college…ugh…
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Threw my 2 cents in on the captaincy debate over at Miss 604.
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Great article on Lack
http://ingoalmag.com/news/eddie-the-stork-lack-delivers-nhl-promise-for-canucks/
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He sure is quick for his size. Surprised he’s only learned the butterfly style only recently.
His father wearing a Canucks hat painted on the back of his mask? Tres cool
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
from twitter
reidder Kristin Reid
AV: Glass is sick (missed practice). He expects to talk to Gillis Wed about captaincy. And the roster declared Wed may not be team open ssn
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Why
would Glass talk to Gillis about the captaincy?
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
i think you’re misreading it. AV said: 1: glass is sick. 2: I expect to talk to gillis Wed. about captaincy and 3: Roster declared wed. may not be the opening night roster.
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
AV is the speaker. Ave said
1. Glass is sick
2. I expect to talk to MG about captaincy on Wed
3. Shit still could go down, mofo’s. Keep them ears and eyes ready.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
beer me
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Ahhh okay
I haz understanding.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I read it the other way at first also.
Glass is the new captain!… but after a re-read, it all makes sense :)
oh god
Glass as the new captain….can you imagine? He WAS the captain of the Dartmouth University team when he went there…
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
you, me, and garfield
now i want some lasagne
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t like where this is going, with the Flames.
Now they have two players that I really like. First there was Jerome, how can you not like that guy, the best teammate on the planet.
And now there is Brendan, you can’t help but wish well for the man, no matter what.
One more trade like this, and I will find myself wishing well for the Flames. How can you hate them, in these circumstances?
Los Angeles, CA
Cuz they're calgary?
I like Iginla too, but as long as he’s on the flames he only gets cheers during the olympics…
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
To add insult to the situation, Phaneuf, who I can’t stand, is not even there anymore.
Los Angeles, CA
Yeah
It’s getting harder and harder to hate them nowadays. Especially since they’re still projected to be a bottom-8 team in the conference.
I don't hate them
I just enjoy schadenfreude derived from their misfortunes.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Im sure
we could have gotten him for that kind of money.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
sadness
much
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Well
That was easy
From Puck Daddy.
A little bit of showboating it you ask me, but still absolutely hilarious
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Probably
The best use of that gimmick I’ve seen
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
somebody give that punk a 2 hander across the ankles
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Like
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
My buddy
Cammo has quite a temper.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
I thought he would be more of a composed guy, from what I saw in the playoffs.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
GOLD
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s funny for sure, but I’d get that guy down the line. I’d Hextall his ass.
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Billy Smith
his tibia?
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Cause God forbid we make hockey entertaining
and enjoyable for the fans.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
Nucks Misconduct chief curmudgeon and chief hunk.
by Section 312 on Oct 4, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
there’s entertaining and then there is class. That work of art sucked. Maybe I just have too much of a temper. heheh
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably
You have to laugh at some things. If not the act of hitting the button, then laugh at the guy giving the opposing team ammunition to hate him!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
/me
chuckles at the irony.
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Don't
start again.
"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, 'dad'
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
Son

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Host and judge
of Doom Mars Base Idol?
"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC
There is nothing classless about
celebrating and having a good time.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
Nucks Misconduct chief curmudgeon and chief hunk.
by Section 312 on Oct 4, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
oh no
nothing classless about hitting the “easy” button after scoring a goal, nothing at all.
How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?
I dont see why that
is classless. He was having fun and celebrating. I just don’t see why it needs to be taken seriously.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
Nucks Misconduct chief curmudgeon and chief hunk.
by Section 312 on Oct 4, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I guess
any sort of disrespect or douchebaggery is fine as long as one is having fun and celebrating…
Here’s an easy way to tell if something is classless or not:
If it’s something you could easily see Sean Avery doing but could never see Steve Yzerman doing… it’s probably classless.
How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?
Well first of all Steve Yzerman
probably wasn’t the model of class that he was later in his career when he was a junior aged kid. But whatever that isn’t important. I didn’t say “any sort of disrespect or douchebaggery is fine as long as one is having fun and celebrating⦔ again that is you putting words in my mouth. I simply said in this case I don’t see what was so bad about it. Celebrating a goal and having fun is part of hockey that I am OK with. In this case it didn’t come across as disrespectful to me.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
Nucks Misconduct chief curmudgeon and chief hunk.
by Section 312 on Oct 4, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It looks like a home team ritual, something that gets the crowd pumped and into the heads of the opposition, kind of like a Chelsea Dagger.
When it comes to spectator sports, the mob rules, not class.
That being said, unless the goalie slit his wrists on his hockey skates later, it’s pretty harmless.
Just because
it’s harmless doesn’t mean it also isn’t classless.
How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?
Meh…
is booing the opposition classless?
is having a big giant over-the-top celebration whenever a goal is scored classless?
“Classiness” is entirely subjective. This thing was funny, which to me earns it a lot of points within the grander subjective sphere of ‘is this something i want to see happen at sporting events’. As long as it isn’t hurting anyone or making anything less safe, then that’s the question I ask— is it enjoyable, not “is it classy”. Classy shmassy.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
As a player?
Yes booing is classless.
Yes over the top celebrations are classless, see Ovechkin.
“as long as no one is hurt” is a determination of safety, not class, imo classlessness is not enjoyable, in fact it detracts from the enjoyment for me, let the goal speak for itself.
There’s nothing wrong with the spontaneous expression of joy an at athletic achievement, but these contrived juvenile gimmicks are just sad.
How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?
Again, classless is just a subjective thing. I could just as easily deride cantankerous old fans (ahem, not that I’m talking about anyone in particular here…) but such a designation would be equally subjective. What it comes down to is that you don’t like this behavior, whereas I find it fun. And because you don’t like it, you call it classless, because that sounds more authoritative than simply saying you don’t like it (whereas I would say it’s being authoritarian). “Classiness” is just a morally loaded term. It’s a sport. It’s about fun. I think this is fun, therefore I like when it happens.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not
just that I don’t like it, it makes a mockery of the sport, if everybody did sideshow crap like that all the time we’d have a WWE atmosphere at NHL games and that would dishonour the history and integrity of the game. It’s not golf but I think we can all enjoy ourselves just as much without the players going out of their way to disrespect their opponents or put their 10 year old regressions on display.
How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?
You’re sermonizing. Why are these things bad? “Because it’s not how things used to be” is always a canard. It suggests somehow that things used to be wonderful (which typically is not true)… but even if true, it’s still fallacious to say that what is new must be bad because it’s not what used to be. The value-neutral term for that is ‘different’, not ‘wrong’. Hockey used to be far more violent and far dirtier. By trying to push all that shit out of the game, are w dishonoring history? This is like arguing that nudity and naughty words on tv is corrupting our culture (but segregation 50 years ago… no biggy, right?)
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Youthful exuberance
I generally don’t have a problem with from people for are still youths. In my opinion you might be taking the integrity and history of the sport too seriously maybe? This kind of celebration has been going on for decades at the junior level and the game is just fine. It’s just kids having fun. To be honest I have an idea of what is said out on the ice at that level of hockey and this celebration is pretty harmless overall comparatively speaking.
And this is an argument I have with fans of the NFL all the time. I fun, enjoyable celebration isn’t necessarily disrespecting your opponent. I don’t think the celebration here was in anyway supposed to suggest that the goal was actually easy. And I doubt the player himself feels it was easy.
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by Section 312 on Oct 4, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
it makes a mockery of the sport
= subjective moralizing
sideshow crap like that= subjective moralizing
dishonour the history and integrity of the game= subjective moralizing
going out of their way to disrespect their opponents
No they’re not, they’re going out of their way to do a routine where they push this big fake button held up on the glass and then all the fans go wild. You’re choosing to interpret that as being disrespectful. I choose to interpret that as fun. You don’t like it. I do. It really is as simple as that.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 4, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course
it is disrespectful, if you can’t see that, then this is pointless.
How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?
Also
I feel your comments about subjective moralizing subjectively moralize my subjective moralizing…
How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?
It just depends on the person..how easily offended they can get. If I’m that goalie I don’t like getting scored on being rubbed in my face to that extent. Others shake it off. But like somebody said above, that would fuel me to perform even better and silence that runt and his team. That and I’d slash his ankles. haha
Perfect example is the 1996 Stanley Cup Finals where the Panthers fans were throwing toy rats on the ice and at Patrick Roy. I’m sure there was a moment where he wanted to murder every last one of them but what does he do?
1 He didn’t hide in his goal like the other goalies did when rats were thrown in the previous series’. He stood there and took it.
2. He said that he wasn’t going to give those fuckers any more excuses to throw any more rats and shut them out in Game 4 to win the Stanley Cup, on their ice. Suck it, losers. You just motivated the best goalie in the world to shut your asses down. And he did.
So while it may entertain many of you it’s not harmless. In fact it’s best not to give the opposing team any ammo.
Nucks Misconduct
"Here goes nothin'" - Han Solo
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Can I agree with Section that it’s just kids having fun in juniors? I suppose. More or less.
Nucks Misconduct
"Here goes nothin'" - Han Solo
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 4, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
I find it amusing because of both the fact that he’s hitting a big ass button, and because I imagine he just pissed the whole other team off and made them want to play better.
The Roy comparison is pretty apt, I’d say
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Here’s a question. Would those who see nothing wrong with the celebration feel the same way if that goal made it 6 or 7 to 1 for the team that just scored?
Not judging, just asking.
As soon as you're born you start dying, so you might as well have a good time
In a blow out
I would have a slight problem with it. But I doubt it would happen in a blow out. Most Junior level games I have seen the players stop celebrating goals in a blow out.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 5, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Except
those rats weren’t an attempt to disrespect their opponents iirc.
How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?
Just because
It wasn’t meant to doesn’t it mean it did. Or alternatively if it started out not meaning to, it could have ended up being that way. I imagine the fans caught on to the fact that it made the goalies hide away.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Know what’s really classless? The word “douchenozzle”.
by Passive Voice on Oct 4, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Guerin
I know he’s hated by Philly and Pittsburgh, I think his skillset might fit our size + grit criteria. I could see him slotting in the 3rd line with Malholtra and Hansen. No idea about his price though — I can’t see him accepting something under say.. 2 million, even the current point of his career.
Any thoughts?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 5, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I know man
I know. I love rosterbation too.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 5, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for shopping
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Yeah, barring a trade, our team will be composed of players currently here. End of story.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 5, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions
We
want moar rosterbation!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 5, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions

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