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The Luongo/Schneider Competition Doesn't Exist

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On the Canucks' 5-1 whooping of the seemingly half-there Minnesota Wild on Friday night Cory Schneider told the media: "It's made my life easy and I'm getting comfortable. Hopefully I can take on some tougher games on the road in the future." That got my mind going in several directions (brace yourself).

1. What a great attitude from this kid! He's hungry and I like that. His level of compete is where it needs to be.

2. His chance to be peppered with more tricky shots (on the road even) will come. Do you find yourself having a high level of faith in this guy already? He looks solid positionally and as confident as Lord Aragorn jumping off the ship at Minas Tirith with the Army of the Dead about to pounce.

3. New goaltending coach Roland Melanson's techniques are paying off quicker for Schneider than Roberto Luongo. I was talking to a goaltender/goaltending coach tonight and he said what many of us are seeing: Luongo's butterfly stance/positioning looks awkward at times compared to Schneider's. There is a reason for that. Schneider, 24, was mostly raised in this style where

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Luongo, 31, was not. Luongo has had to reinvent his game to a large degree over the past couple years and it takes a lot of time to do so. Schneider is gung-ho about Melanson's tutelage. "Rollie kept saying, 'Trust me on this, believe in me, stick with it, and it's going to work. Sure enough, I'm buying in and it's really helped me."  (The Province) Melanson wants the goalies playing deeper in net and not getting caught out of position further out beyond the crease...the most glaring difference between Melanson and former Nucks goaltending coach Ian Clark.  Last month, in regards to Melanson's differing techniques,  Luongo said: " "It’s not going to happen overnight. Obviously you play the game a certain way for many years and to make a change like that is going to take time. I’ve always had that mindset a little bit except that I’ve always played a different way. So as long as things go well, I don’t have a problem with it." (In Goal Magazine) If you read that article you will see that verbally Lou is open to the changes as well.


4. The Canucks' fanbase tends to be full of impatient people and I find I have to sit back and/or kick myself to maintain some form of balanced opinion. With Schneider playing this well early and Luongo having been somewhat inconsistent game to game and even benched, people are screaming: "Why are we  paying Luongo $10 million while we have Schneider playing better and making over $8 million less?" My answer to that is

Hush! Cue the word "early". After 6 games started by Roberto this season, he has a 1-3-2 record, 2.92 GAA and a .903 save percentage. Schneider has started 2 games and has a 2-0-0 record, 0.86 save percentage and a .968 save percentage. Wow, enough to start a Canucks nation-wide controversy right? Yes, but no. "Yes" for all the knee jerkers and Luongo haters from the past short-comings and "No" for all the people that realize that it's way too early into the season to throw anybody under a bus. 

Personally I am concerned that Schneider is going to continually out play Luongo on most of his chances given and then what? Are we going to ride a red-hot, red-headed goalie over the franchise goalie when times are dire? I just don't see it. Not on a $10 million investment. Management has stated that Roberto will play 60-65 games this season, meaning it's a structured schedule and Luongo will be given every chance to snap out of it any time he falters, regular season or playoffs. Lou likes the organization and it's direction and commitment to winning and the organization committed themselves to him by signing him to the massive 12-year deal. Keep in mind that he has a no trade clause in his contract over the next 5 years. So if you are part of the section screaming "trade Luongo!" and thinking it is indeed a possibility, get over it.

5. What is very apparent with the last couple years of Luongo's tenure here is that the team plays a much more solid all-round game at a more consistent basis in front of Luongo's backing goaltenders. Last season Andrew Raycroft bettered Luongo's GAA and nearly matched his save percentage. This year (and yes it's early) Schneider is killing Luongo's stats. You can say that these goaltenders are/were fighting for their NHL lives and so play with desperation and better than Lou but that is not entirely the case. It's as if the Canucks take more chances offensively in front of Luongo because they are thinking that he is one of the best goaltenders in the NHL and he has their back. But at the same time, Luongo can be quick to point out defensive flaws in the team's game after losses as a result of this aggressive behavior. What gives?

In my opinion "what gives" is that the team needs to tighten up in front of Luongo (like the Chicago game last week) and Roberto needs to up his game. I hope the players ALL feel the same way. That balance (at a consistent level) is not apparent. It is how it has to be. Management is going with the "proven" money goalie and the option of riding a red-hot streaking Schneider is most-likely non-existent unless management changes their stance. There is no competition in net. Not to the level that I would prefer, anyway. I just have to live with it.  I have to believe that Luongo is focused and possessed to win and that he will become the lights-out goaltender that he is being paid to be.

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I don’t blame Lu for any of our losses this season (other than the shootouts, but I could give a damn about those). He was bad in them, but we didn’t deserve to win them regardless. So I am not one iota concerned at all about his play, so long as he doesn’t lose his confidence.

by Beantown Canuck on Oct 25, 2010 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Hold on
His level of compete is where it needs to be.

If Marc Crawford is making an appearance as a guest blogger you should at least credit him.

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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Did he say that? Oh my.

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Level of compete?

He said it like 3 times in every answer he ever gave. And I think they paid him by the number of times he said it on air when he was at the CBC.

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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha, thankfully I’ve put Crow out of my mind already! Except he’s still haunting me obviously

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that there should be no controversy here. And one can NOT compare the stats from playing 67 games with the stats from playing 15 games (i.e. the number of games by Luongo, vs. the number of games by Schleider). It’s easy to have a great game when you play once in a while, it’s a different story when you have to be great day in and day out.

But I love the fact that we have a great back up, who can take over any time if something happens with Luongo. I am afraid that Luongo will have to go through one or two small stretches of injuries this season (it happened almost every season, recently), and that will be the time when Schneider will have to prove himself for good. I will be surprised if it didn’t happen this year.

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by AttilaS on Oct 25, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s as if the Canucks take more chances offensively in front of Luongo because they are thinking that he is one of the best goaltenders in the NHL and he has their back.

Agreed. On any hockey team, you try harder defensively when you know you have a weaker goalie in net.

by SteveNux on Oct 25, 2010 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

We’ll see how he does with greater chances against. If he excels in that situation as well then maybe the Canucks open up in front of him more often. Who knows. I prefer the team effort in the 5-1 win in front of Schneids and I think the same effort should be made in front of Lou

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing that's annoying

Is that they still keep the offense when Schneider is in. They just also play a lot better defensively. Why can’t they do that when Lou is in too? You just leave him out to dry because he’s the #1.

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by Semi_Colon on Oct 25, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing to remember is that

Luongo has a tendency to let in an early goal. Forcing his team to open up a little offensively. CS hasn’t done that yet.

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if it was true that Luongo let in early goals often, which it’s not. What kinda game plan changes after one goal in the first period?

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is that not true?

He is well known for his propensity to let in an early goal. And the game plan might not change but players know they are behind and might be more likely to pinch and take risks in an attempt to get the goal back. Leading to more chances at the other end.

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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then they are poorly coached

If a player panics after one goal and starts pinching unresponsively then they aren’t sticking with a game plan in a way that breeds success.
I would agree that the Canucks as a team are known for slow starts, which is why they had so many third period comebacks last season and is why they are always bad in October. But I have seen no evidence that points to Luongo having a tendency towards letting in goals in the first five minutes.

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is from last season

and the numbers should be accurate as I just ran them myself.

These are from games Luongo started

Goals in the first 5-6 minutes last season: 17
Goals in the first 10 minutes last season: 28
The other team scored first: 35

I don’t know what the league averages are but I would say allowing a goal in the first 5-6 minutes in 21% of our games is a high number.

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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

21% a high number?

That is in fact less then a quarter of our games, therefore a relatively low number.

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you don't think letting in a goal in the first 5 minutes

of a quarter of our games is high? Like I said I don’t know the league averages but that seems very high to me. That’s 1 in every 4 games where we are behind in the first 5 minutes because I didn’t count games where we scored first and Luongo let in a goal in the first 5 minutes just games where the other team scored the first goal of the game in the first 5 minutes. And remember that’s 21% of our games but Luongo doesn’t start all of our games. It is in fact exactly 25% of games Luongo started where we were behind in the opening 5-6 minutes of a game.

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for running those stats, Section. That is a high number to me.

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

No I don't think it's a high number.

That means, according to your stats, in 50 games he didn’t let in a goal in the first 6 mins. 51 games out of 68 that’s the majority of games and that’s not taking into account the situation which led to the goal.

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I looked at every box score

from last year.

By the way 52% of the games Luongo started he let in the first goal of the game. That’s too high for a guy making the money he makes.

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I count 15

I went through and I can see 15 games where Luongo gave up a goal in the first 6 mins. Of those 5 were powerplay goals. That means that in only 10 of the 68 games Luongo played he gave up an even strength goal in the first 6 minutes. I think we can agree that’s a pretty low number.

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well again I don't know what league averages

are so this is all speculation.

But that still seems a little high to me. PP goals or not.

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't think the pp goals are relevant?

It may seem high to you and not to me but the point is it’s not overwhelmingly high. Also, of the 68 games he played last year, he won 40 of them. Which is really the most important stat.
P.S. Next time I get a chance i’ll look up Miller and Brodeur and Bryzgalov, see what they gave up for comparison.

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that winning is the only important

stat when judging a goalie. But we probably won’t be a team that is top 3 in the league for goals this season. We had a lot of guys have career years last season and they are called career years for a reason. I don’t think we can afford to have our top goalie needing his team to bail him out as often as we did last season. Cause I don’t think we will be able to bail him out as often.

And to be frank I don’t think PP goals are relevant to this discussion. At the end of the game the team with the most goals wins the game. PP, SH, EV or EN it doesn’t matter. PP goals count towards wins and losses so I don’t view them any differently than regular strength goals. You have to kill penalties. And I would argue that killing a penalty early in a game is more important because it can set the tone for the whole game. Luongo has to be our best PKer as well. So for all of those reasons I don’t think it matters that 5 of those times were PP goals. I don’t think you can’t excuse a guy for letting in a goal based on the fact it was a PP goal.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
Nucks Misconduct chief curmudgeon and chief hunk.

by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am just going to take the high road

on this one.

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

That was uncalled for. My bad

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's OK I was wrong

it’s weird cause I have had that perception for a long time. That Luongo gave up a lot of goals early in games. Glad that I took the time to look into it whether or not I was right or wrong it’s just nice to know for sure.

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

So just to put it being a lot to rest.

Ryan Miller, the Vezina winner let in 17 goals in the first 6 mins of the 69 games he played last year.

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting

That could just mean that Miller let’s in a lot of goals in the first 5 minutes as well. But if I am wrong it wouldn’t be the first time. I just ran some numbers quickly and it appears he let in about 8% of his goals for a season in roughly the first 8% of the game so maybe that is about average. My perception based on watching games and not running the numbers was wrong. My bad.

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 25, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry Section. Got to disagree there.

Its the creeping sort of criticism that Luongo gets that goalies we have had in the past in our “goalie graveyard” did not.

Occasionally, he lets in the 1-0 goal. So do other goalies, that is just part of the game. But to say he has a propensity is overblowing what is a natural byproduct in our game. It just seems, to me, that he gets more guff because he is as good as he is.

Teams start slow…and the goalie is a part of that. I can see where you get it from, in that there are occasionally memorable goals that go in first.

But I disagree because I really think that Luongo gets way more critiques of every damn goal than any goalie we have ever had.

Yes, he makes the big bucks, so I understand. But I honestly think the guy gets way more guff for his play,or whatever, than is needed.

Its like because we have such a good goalie, he is worthy of such additional criticism.

Its just that one writer or another, will say something, like today…( like Ed Willes saying that he is "clearly not the goalie he was in his first year here ")…when it is at least in part the style of the team. That team was built for the defensive trap style game. Of course his numbers were going to be better then. But to say he is clearly not is good is not clear at all. And then someone else will say something, and soon the braying masses will be calling for him to be traded, or benched, or some such thing.

The style is different. The team is different. Its like people were blaming him for not stopping everything versus the Ducks…when the defense left him alone for about 3 of those goals. Same versus Minny. Its easy to look good on offense, and make the goalie look bad, when there are 3-0s and such. When no one is taking there man…and giving up more and more top shelf chances…

That being said, I was as disappointed as everyone else in the elimination game in the playoffs the last two years. He does have something to prove.

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by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the exact same thing when I read that Willes article, about how much the team philosophy has changed

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

P.S. I didn’t actually mean unresponsively I meant irresponsibly but I tried to spell unresponsibly cause my grammar aint so good

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fucked up on the their/there thing…we get your point.

Don’t worry…most of us are not grammar police.

Thank God!!!

"If I'd written the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people—including me—would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism."

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by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post.

Perfectly said. Luongo is rarely the biggest problem, he’s just the easiest to point the finger at.

by Canuckelhead on Oct 25, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Well said

I wish I could send this to everyone of the idiots that I went to high school with that shit their pants whenever Lu suits up.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 25, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I wanna break the kneecaps of knee-jerk reactors.

It’s October. Rec’d post.

Time to fail my Marketing midterm. Send your positive thinking my way. Preferably if you’re good at Marketing.

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by eightyseven on Oct 25, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Can I help?

I was actually taught in a high school self defense course that this is one of the easiest things to do against an attacker because the kneecap is pretty easy to knock off to one side.

/The more you know

I try not to read the paper too much at all and avoid it in October, but once in a while I’ll read something in the Province when bored, laugh or shake my head and remind myself why I ignore the media here. A couple guys on twitter are not bad, but you can tell they are always letting personal favourites get in the way of fair reporting.

by sunshine and lollipops on Oct 25, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Botch’ is the only one I respect at all…maybe McIntyre for the Sun occasionally.

Some of these guys’ sense of entitlement is truly gtroublesome.

It will only get worse…as the media cross platforming continues…and you here them on TEAM, or see them on SNET between periods…

"If I'd written the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people—including me—would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism."

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by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit…hear them…my brain is mush today

"If I'd written the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people—including me—would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism."

—Rolling Stone, February 15, 1973 Hunter S Thompson

by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wear knee guards, future attackers.

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by eightyseven on Oct 25, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where's yoata?

Usually he’s here bashing Luongo.

I do believe it is the system that AV runs that leaves his goalies out to dry. Defensemen (especially Bieksa) are encouraged to jump up in the play and pinch down. That sure leaves Luongo to handle a lot of 3 on 2’s and 2 on 1’s.

Also, the Canucks penalty kill (especially on the road – 68% as of right now) is brutal. AV needs to find a better system or combination of players so Luongo sees less shots.

Or stop taking fucking penalties

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by westy99 on Oct 25, 2010 7:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Taking penalties is going to happen.

Just gotta be able to kill them.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 25, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh God no!

Why do fans want to get rid of the best goalie we have ever had?

You want Clouts’ back? Perhaps Brochu?

"If I'd written the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people—including me—would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism."

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by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is driving me insane

After torturing ourselves for so many years by watching Clouts’ almost super-human mediocrity, we finally get a franchise goalie who has proven himself on a world stage (I didn’t hear any of you complaining when he backstopped Canada to a gold fucking medal), wants to win, has obvious talent, and is here long-term. And as soon as we don’t win the Cup with injuries, Lu playing a ridiculous amount of games and Darcy fucking Hordichuk on our playoff roster, you want to send him to my hometown, a barren wasteland run by a mad man with a penchant for old washed up hockey players, or some other god-forsaken city? Really?

Fine. If the Canucks trade Luongo and get anyone else other than Ryan Miller I think within a season you will all regret your desire to move him out of town.

/serenity now.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 25, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

they can’t trade Lou. He has a NTC for the first 5 years

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

also a ninety-year contract

by Passive Voice on Oct 25, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes I know

and that is why it is even more retarded that everytime he has a bad game or we don’t win the Cup everyone wants to send him to fucking Tampa.

I was ranting on a Lu trade with the assumption that Lu had waived his no trade clause.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 25, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

when the fanbase drives him out of town, right?

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well yes and no

that depends. If Lu doesn’t feel welcome anymore, than he will ask GMMG to trade him and will waive his no trade clause. If GMMG listens to 1040 every morning and feels incredible and righteous (lulz sarcasm) pressure to trade Lu, then he will ask Lu to waive his NTC.

I feel like Im talking myself into a corner and you’ve got some shit up your sleeve.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 25, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

/rubs hands together

“MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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"We live in a country where John Lennon takes eight bullets, Yoko Ono is walking right beside him and not one hits her. Explain that to me, God! Explain that to me!!" -Dennis Leary

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

/paranoia fully kicks in.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 25, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

did you see the inception spoof on south park last week? pretty funny

by Beantown Canuck on Oct 25, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 25, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is nothing up my sleeve, CC

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"Then I will see you in hell!'" - Han Solo
"We live in a country where John Lennon takes eight bullets, Yoko Ono is walking right beside him and not one hits her. Explain that to me, God! Explain that to me!!" -Dennis Leary

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

/paranoia goes down slightly.

Somebody give me the kick.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 25, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your arm I hope?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 26, 2010 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vancouver fans might be able to make use of this, too.

http://theproductionline.us/ntc/

I’ve linked a few comments myself. :)

"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)

by Baroque on Oct 26, 2010 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pot. Kettle. Black.

May I suggest that Ed Willes is clearly not the writer he was in his first year here?

by Nux4Ever on Oct 26, 2010 3:09 AM PDT reply actions  

God, Schneider so totally outplyed Poo-ongo gainst the toatz stackd 4wards on teh Wild and Canez. Jordan Stall and Saku Koyvu are Crosby x 5. SCHEINDER FOR VEZNA!!!!!!!

/end idiocy

by Nanodummy on Oct 26, 2010 5:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

LOL

rec’d.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 27, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watching the game tonight

Some asshole at the bar seriously said “put schneider in” after the tying goal.

I think SCHIENDER FOR VEZNA may become a tag for me…

by Nanodummy on Oct 27, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

knee-jerking assholes. bandwagoners

That would be a great tag!

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"Then I will see you in hell!'" - Han Solo
"We live in a country where John Lennon takes eight bullets, Yoko Ono is walking right beside him and not one hits her. Explain that to me, God! Explain that to me!!" -Dennis Leary

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2010 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

The misspelling

Is intentional right? ;)

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 27, 2010 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

he means Ginger needs a new car?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCF_5BLC9lw

How do you tell when blue cheese has gone bad?

by yoata on Oct 27, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That

should be a sig.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 27, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It should be a T-Shirt

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

IT SHOULD BE REALITY!!!!

Or realty, as they’d say it on CDC

"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC

by Twitchy2010 on Oct 27, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think you

mashed on your keyboard enough for that to be CDC worthy.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

or drooled

"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC

by Twitchy2010 on Oct 27, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And where in the fuck are the sparklies and cool blue pix of Linden and Nazzy?

Good God man…total FAIL.

"If I'd written the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people—including me—would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism."

—Rolling Stone, February 15, 1973 Hunter S Thompson

by vancitydan on Oct 27, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Michael Buble spaklies even!!

good God

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"We live in a country where John Lennon takes eight bullets, Yoko Ono is walking right beside him and not one hits her. Explain that to me, God! Explain that to me!!" -Dennis Leary

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2010 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

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