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2010-2011 NHL Season Preview: Vancouver Canucks

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Note: The depth chart is revised in the article. Just scroll down.

Leaves are changing, the temperature is starting to drop and pumpkin beer is in the stores (honestly why take that stuff off the shelves?). It can only mean one thing: hockey's back. As we head into the 40th anniversary of the Vancouver Canucks, anticipation is seemingly endless that they're landed the pieces to finally push them to the next level. Of course 29 other teams are saying the same thing but it's nonetheless enjoyable to bathe in the hot springs of hopeless optimism before the freezing spray of the Siberian prison shower hose pulls us back to reality.

Join us as we walk through all things hockey for Vancouver, including the new guys and sad goodbyes, strengths and weakness, the depth chart (subject to change when the Vigneault wind blows) and fearless predictions.

Star-divide

2009-2010 Recap
Last season started with a great deal of promise: our goalie was given a lifetime deal (THAT THE NHL HAS NO PROBLEM WITH), the Sedins were ready to assume the Swedish void left by Naslund, Kesler and Burrows were amped to rock again, they landed a plum of a free agent in Samuelsson and a great pick-up in Ehrhoff, Hodgson and Shirokov were the talk of the town and even the fatties (Wellwood, Bernier and SOB) came to camp with new contracts and slimmer waistlines. It was a magical time.

The regular season ended that magical vibe in a hurry. Before the puck dropped, Hodgson was cut and controversy around that decision grew (Shirokov joined him six games later). Daniel broke his foot, leaving us with a visually-awkward single twin. Demitra was physically MIA until the winter, mentally MIA all season. Luongo went down briefly which caused minor heart problems across the Province. Grabner saw his first NHL game before he succumbed to the dreaded pre-game soccer injury. Mathieu Schneider returned from offseason surgery and promptly bitched his way straight to Manitoba. Mitchell's season was cut short by some Russian thug. Bieksa had another unfortunate run-in with a skate blade and was out for months. Lukowich was around for a game or two before he went under the knife. You get it: there were a few injuries, the extent of which was so comical that Bieksa actually played forward a few times, a shrewd coaching decision since he often doesn't play defense. Ancillary stories included a discussion of macroeconomic theoretical applications between Burrows and referee Stephane Auger, some idiot with a laser pointer, the Green Men, surviving the longest road trip in NHL history, the Winter Games and the end of the road for a place once called GM Place.

Despite the negatives, our boys soldiered on and had one hell of a regular season, ranking second in goals scored (3.27 per game), a respectable 6th best powerplay (20.9%) and enjoyed career years from Kesler, Burrows, Raymond, Samuelsson, Daniel (!), Ehrhoff and Edler. Their top line officially became more productive than the WCE in its heyday. Oh and that Henrik Sedin fella forced recognition upon himself with his career season by becoming the first player in franchise history to win either the Art Ross and the Hart Trophy. Also worth mentioning were the decent rank and file efforts due to all those injuries from guys like Rome, Glass, Hansen and Raycroft (yes, we were stunned too).

Thanks in part to the ineptitude of others in the NW, Vancouver ran away with the second straight division title and earned themselves home ice advantage and a first round blind date with the Los Angeles Kings. Surely a team that will suck to play in the coming years, Vancouver had deeper scoring and more experience in net, dispatching the Kings in six games. They met Chicago again in the second round and - once again - Chicago earned the bragging rights (and eventually a shiny silver cup) by thoroughly exploiting Vancouver's weaknesses and injuries, eliminating them in six.

Who's In
Dan Hamhuis, Keith Ballard, Raffi Torres, Manny Malhotra, Victor Oreskovich, Joel Perrault, Jeff Tambellini, Bill Sweatt, Brendan Morrison (maybe), Peter Schaefer (maybe), Mason Raymond (re-signed), Jannik Hansen (re-signed), Tanner Glass (re-signed), Shane O'Brien (re-signed), Alexandre Bolduc (re-signed), Cory Schneider (re-signed), Sean Zimmerman (re-signed), Mario Bliznak (re-signed), Chris Tanev, Lee Sweatt, Tyler Weiman

Who's Out
Kyle Wellwood, Willie Mitchell, Steve Bernier, Michael Grabner, Ryan Johnson, Andrew Raycroft, Brad Lukowich, Pavol Demitra, Nathan McIver, Matt Pettinger, Yan Stastny, Michael Funk, Lawrence Nycholat

Pithy Questions & Blunt Answers

> Question: Can Henrik Sedin build on his totals from 2009-2010?
> Answer: Who cares?

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Hank did everything that could have been asked of him, but asking him to duplicate, or build upon, those totals is another matter. Some like Gabe from Behind the Net have him pegged to take about a 15-20 point dip. Others have him pegged to score even more than 112 points. Does it really matter? Are we honestly going to be pulling fans of ledges if he scores, say, 85 points? I don't think he needs to prove himself to anyone and, should he regress back to the high double-digits, how productive his line is far outweighs what Hank himself does (if he's true captain material, he knows that already). All the attention on #33 could be ideal since it's ignoring brother Daniel who, though he missed 19 games, still had his best year in scoring, is more of a pure goal scorer and was on pace to have shattered some of Naslund's existing franchise records for left wingers. Their value is usually best seen through their unique tandem and there aren't many (any?) teams that can stop them consistently. Be happy we get four more seasons of it.

 

> Question: Who replaces Burrows on the top line?
> Answer: Schroeder, Hodgson, Morrison, Samuelsson, Tambellini, Shirokov, Tobias Funke, Torres, Malhotra, your mom

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Wanted: A first line winger, nose for the net, lightly proficient in Swedish highly desirable. Top six guys don't fall from trees (unless you live in Detroit or Chicago) so someone internally needs to replace Alex Burrows who will be out until probably November. The most logical compliment would be fellow Swede Samuelsson (latest reports suggest he's the winner), creating a line that caused Jonathan Quick severe indigestion in the playoffs. But then you're tinkering with an already productive second line. From a depth standpoint, you could promote a bottom six vet like Malhotra or Torres, though it makes more sense to keep Malhotra entrenched on the third line. Torres may not be a bad fit since he's a similar crash-and-bang type winger, but if you believe in keeping duos together (Sedins, MayRay/Kes) then Torres maybe better off with Manny. Morrison has had a strong camp so he's in the mix and Tambellini has shown decent wheels and hands (doesn't get much prettier than this). Regardless of how they replace Burr the mix up changes the complexion of at least two forward lines not to mention influences the most dynamic identical twin duo the league has seen. Ever.

So...yeah, tread carefully.

 

> Question: Will the secondary scoring be just as successful?
> Answer: Most likely.

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Vancouver had an embarrassment of offensive riches last season but the pressure is on for a repeat effort from those not named Sedin or Kesler. Losing the team's leading-scorer in Burrows for a few months is already a big hurdle to leap, so many eyes will be on Samuelsson and Raymond to pitch in. Samuelsson's shooting percentage was 6.3% higher than it was in Detroit; one year later and one year older, can that be sustained? Raymond broke through last season and he has to prove he's not a one hit wonder. Torres is owning the preseason, but he too needs to prove his stop in Buffalo was an aberration. On defense, Ehrhoff will be relied on for his cannon but can he string together another 40 point plus season? Will Edler take another step forward in his development or will he be blasting more shots wildly off target? Can Hamhuis be effective at both ends of the ice and will Ballard flex an offensive upside as well?

If you answer no to most of these questions, then is your bar properly stocked?

 

> Question: Can the defense stay healthy & effective without Willie Mitchell?
> Answer: (a) Flip a coin and (b) yes.

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The injuries can't possibly be as bad as last year right? In 2009-10, half of their starters (Mitchell, Salo and Bieksa) received significant injuries and three of their replacements failed (Schneider, Lukowich and Rome's playoff injury). When Nolan Baumgartner sees post season play and SOB is suddenly thrust into the top four, that's a bad sign. While they'll miss Mitchell and what little is left of Salo, Ballard and Hamhuis are freakishly healthy guys (missing a combined 22 games in 11 seasons, or rather what Salo misses yearly on groin strains). They also bring experience with tough zone starts, plenty of hitting and ample PK experience. Lastly they allow a different composition in front of Luongo: Ballard and Hammer should be able to shutdown most lines, but splitting them up allows the more offensive-minded Edler and Ehrhoff space to roam and relegates a top four guy like Bieksa to the third pairing with Alberts (who has had a very strong camp). You can't predict what injury landmines lay ahead but there's no reason to think Mitchell was the glue that held them together and, if he was, it's not like that model produced playoff success anyway. With the offseason moves and some burgeoning talent waiting down in Manitoba or the juniors, the defense looks better now than it ever has in the Luongo era.

 

> Question: Will Vancouver's putrid penalty killing improve?
> Answer: They're deep in the stink if it doesn't. 

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An Alain Vigneault-led hockey team isn't timid. They're aggressive (dare I say truculent?) which often means they find themselves sitting in a special box for a few minutes each game. His first year at the helm they were the 19th most penalized team followed by 29th, 28th and 18th last year (hey, progress!). Handing out PIMs left and right isn't terrible assuming you can kill them off. Vancouver's PK was the best overall in 2006-07, but then 14th, 16th and finally 18th last year. Mix in a shaky goalie, a weakened defense, perhaps bad coaching (hello Ryan Walter!) and is it any wonder Los Angeles scored at will in April? We looked at this theme in early 2009: most of the teams that make it to the SC finals have at least a top 10 PK, something the Canucks needs to aim for.

The good news is our summer toys should help right this trend. Malhotra's past PK and face off experience alone should be key. Manny and Kesler provide a formidable one-two punch in any shorthanded situation. On the backend, Hamhuis was on the ice for 54.6% of Nashville's total time shorthanded in the regular season, roughly 2:39 per game. Ballard was slightly beneath that: 49.6% of Florida's total time shorthanded, 2:42 per game. Lastly don't forget the bench contributions from Newell Brown and Roland Melanson.

The old adage that your goalie is the best PK'er still holds truth. And despite the reinforcements, the PK could still flatly suck and be pinned to the bottom half of the league. But there's more reason to be optimistic that fixing the penalty kill is a priority for 2011.

 

> Question: Will this finally be the big year we've been expecting of Luongo?
> Answer: Probably not, but it shouldn't matter.

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We know the boxcar with the big guy: he'll start off slow (in fact his groin injury is bit ahead of schedule), storm to life in the late fall/early winter, keep them afloat as we welcome spring and then...well, there's no great way to answer that question. We know he's progressively gotten worse each post season he's been to, but there are other variables to factor in, not the least of which was the thinly-veiled defensive corps last spring that couldn't clear a puck to save their lives.

Though it would be nice, the fact is we don't need Luongo to stand on his head a la 2007. He doesn't need to lead the league in GAA, be top five in save percentage or be whispered as a Vezina guy again (but, you know, don't let that stop ya from trying!). If the Canucks keep scoring and if the defense stays healthy and composed, then all Luongo really needs to be is above average which he must definitely is (his cap hit notwithstanding). The team in front of him affords him that luxury. The war of words about his contract is over, he has Melanson, the big C has been relinquished and has a deeper defense in front of him. The stage is set for a statement year filled with those jaw-dropping saves. If he falters again, rest assured Cory Schneider has been waiting ever so excruciatingly patiently for his chance as a starter.


Our Least Frustrating Guess At The Depth Chart (subject to change with the wind)

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Mikael Samuelsson

Mason Raymond - Ryan Kesler - ???

Jannik Hansen - Manny Malhotra - Raffi Torres

Tanner Glass - Alex Bolduc -Guillaume Desbiens

 

Alex Edler - Dan Hamhuis

Christan Ehrhoff - Keith Ballard

Andrew Alberts - Kevin Bieksa

 

Roberto Luongo

Cory Schneider

 

(On the bubble: Rick Rypien (injured), Schaefer, Hodgson, Tambellini, Rome, Lack)

(The bell has tolled: Victor Oreskovich (cut), Morrison (released), Shirokov (cut), Hordichuk (waivers), B. Sweatt (cut), L. Sweatt (cut), O'Brien (waivers), Perrault (waivers))


Predictions
The Yank: Where's my monkey? I usually let him make the picks. Because that's what the professionals do. Speaking of professionals, THN picked us to win it all, so we're doomed.

People are eying Vancouver because they look solid on paper: lots of scoring, deeper defense and a world class netminder. That's all fine and good but means nothing; as we've seen before, the nightmares usually start with an onslaught of injuries, a prolonged slump by a top six guy and just plain bad luck and all of a sudden you're flipping to basketball (I know, gross).

All things being equal, Vancouver should stay ahead of Calgary or Colorado in the Northwest, meaning at least a top three slot and home ice. But can they make a dent in the spring and finally crack the Chicago jinx, steamroll a Detroit or outlast a San Jose? No one can answer that and it feels too convenient to predict sudden Cup glory on the 40th anniversary of never having one.

I'm content knowing the puck will drop with a strong Canucks group out there, stocked with the best talent we've seen in years. A third straight NW crown is ours to lose. We'll roll the dice on the post season when we get to it, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't like one more crack at Chicago.

 

Sean Zandberg: Top of the Conference and Stanley Cup predictions are only natural for this team and I feel are warranted, because I feel the same way. We have a team that is deep in all areas. I feel we have an even better team than last year, with the likes of Manny Malhotra and Raffi Torres replacing Kyle Wellwood and Steve Bernier in the bottom 6 for starters. We are bigger, more physical and can score more, on paper anyway. The defence is as deep as it will ever be. There are no more excuses. It's time for the team to fulfill its destiny.


This is the first time that I am predicting great things for the team. This is the best Canucks team I have ever seen. Now they have to come together, play and fight as a team through any adversity and take the next step. There is enough experience and leadership in this group to get it done.


Prediction: 1st in the West, maybe 2nd to San Jose. A Stanley Cup Finals appearance should occur. Anything beyond that is unacceptable. A 3rd round exit may get us over the 2nd round hump but will not sit well with me. Personally I think San Jose will give us a run for our money in both regular season and playoff categories.

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Since I saw a good opportunity for an AD gif

I will post it before finishing this so-far excellent piece.

Found! Tobias’ audition for the 1st line:

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 8:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Falling to the ground? I think Hordichuk is stealing his idea for the fourth line.

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did u know

That David Cross was the voice of one of the marine’s in the first Halo game?

"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC

by Twitchy2010 on Oct 1, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read that somewhere recently. I think because he was voicing someone else soon? I don’t remember though

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

his imdb

shows a shitload of voice acting roles, so no doubt. Also IMDB shows the AD movie for 2012… I’m concerned it won’t meed the expectations for it that I have in my head…

"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC

by Twitchy2010 on Oct 1, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

meed = meet

bad typerating ftw

"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC

by Twitchy2010 on Oct 1, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still think

They should just break down the movie and make a small run of 4 episodes instead.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know...

Even if it’s not as good as the series, it’ll still probably be the best movie of 2012. If any of the writers return, at least.

What the hell, I’ll honestly be happy as long as Diablo Cody doesn’t write it.

by The Terrible Orion Machine on Oct 1, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I rather like her. Have you seen her youtube talkshow series “red band trailer”? I really like it.

by Beantown Canuck on Oct 3, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing beats

Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 3, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that’s also really good. But try red band trailer.

by Beantown Canuck on Oct 3, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

btw

awesome post…everytime u guys collaborate on a post it’s fan-effing-tastic. Er…not that other posts u both write aren’t good… cuz that’s not what i mean at all.

"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC

by Twitchy2010 on Oct 1, 2010 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

1/2 talent + 1/2 talent = 3/4 talent.

Excellent job guys. That looks like a lot of work there.

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on Oct 1, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m really only good with the dick jokes. I bring little else to the table, but thanks nonetheless!

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not gonna lie, I wrote my prediction blurb, but Yankee is the mastermind of this post.
Very well done, Mike. Are all those images created by you? I’m still laughing at ’em cuz they so funny.

Nucks Misconduct
"Here goes nothin'" - Han Solo

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I liked doing the images for last year’s preview too. I get motivated sometimes…it’s funny when you google canucks images how many of ours come up now. A lot of your Luongo ones, our Iron Maiden ones from the playoffs. I also noticed a few CDC’s use our images as their avatars…I guess that’s nice. Giving back to the kids!

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m actually suing them right now

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"Here goes nothin'" - Han Solo

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better give

Beantown a call

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

I should have snuck this in the preview somewhere, but one reason to keep Oreskovich on the starting roster? I keep getting web and image results for Alesha Oreskovich and that pleases me greatly (many of which are NSFW so tread carefully).

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Will check out upon returning home

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tour de force preview, and not much to disagree with here. Now that you’ve revealed your rationale for including Oreskovich in the lineup, it’s all coming together. I can’t see him making it under any circumstances — maybe I haven’t been paying close enough attention, but hasn’t he been outplayed by Morrison and Tambellini? He hasn’t had a great camp by most accounts.

by headspacej on Oct 1, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right, he hasn’t. The Morrison domino will set the table really, but they can still fit Tambellini in on the second line and Ores on the fourth. If the fourth line is Rypien/Morrison/Oreskovich with Glass in the press box I am ok with that to start the season and see what happens. Or if Morrison makes his way to the second line, then Tambellini/Rypien/Oreskovich is OK i guess (I’ll feel bad for Tambo though)

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Morrison as 4th line center, maybe spotted in other situations. At least one guy who can reliably move the puck on that line, and then two of whoever will do the bruising (Oreskovich, Rypien, Glass, or, gulp, Hordichuk). Samuelsson/Tambo/Hansen for 1/2/3 line duty as necessary.

Great preview by the way!

by antro on Oct 1, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you’re right. In that case I feel bad for Morriso, but to go from Johnson to Morrison is a nice step up. Definitely agree the bruising pecking order with Hordichuk at the bottom. Time to finally cut the dead weight there.

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Morrison with Oreskovich and Glass on the 4th line.

While Burrows is out, Put Samuelsson with the Sedins, Hansen or Torres with ‘Kesmond’ and Morrison with Torholtra/Hanholtra. Rypien can centre Oreskovlass.

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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 1, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

very much NSFW

very much pleasing

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shirok sounds cut

From Ben Kuzma:

Shirokov and Sauve spotted at YVR on Thursday and in Manitoba today. No surprise. Sergei played his way off #Canucks, Sauve had concussion.

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Well, at least Hodgson lasted longer than Shirokov this year…

by antro on Oct 1, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

There you go, positivity!

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

1st to 3rd in the Western Conference sounds about right.

San Jose and Detroit will fill out the top 3. it’s really a crap-shoot between the three teams, but I like Vancouver’s chances for third place. Both those teams (as well as Chicago) have weaknesses (Detroit = age, Chicago = loss of depth, San Jose = Goaltending, lack of grit/clutch). All 4 are elite teams, and one of them will win the Cup.

Here are my point total predictions (Note: all predictions are based on the assumption of 82 games played. Because it would be foolish to attempt to predict injuries as well as their severity and length, I’ll stick with predictions based on 82 games, even where we know a player will miss time, like Alex Burrows):

Henrik Sedin:
30 goals, 70 assists
Daniel Sedin
40goals 60 assists
Alex Burrows
30 goals, 30 assists

Ryan Kesler
25 goals, 50 assists
Mason Raymond
27 goals, 28 assists
Mikael Samuelsson
28 goals, 27 asisists

Manny Malhotra
12 goals, 23 assists
Raffi Torres
18 goals, 12 assists
Jannick Hansen
15 goals, 25 assists

Dan Hamhuis
7 goals, 34 assists
Christian Ehrhoff
13 goals, 35 assists

Keith Ballard
8 goals, 32 assists
Alex Edler
8 goals, 35 assists

Kevin Bieksa
5 goals, 25 assists

Roberto Luongo
44-15-6 2.18 GAA .927 SVP

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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 1, 2010 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

If Bieksa gets regular minutes, I see him getting more points barring injury.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=63159

by SteveNux on Oct 1, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's very possible.

Based on his career pattern, hes due for a 40-point season.

But when the defense is fully healthy, he’s a 5th/6th defenseman who may see second unit power-play time.

I really like Bieksa for what he can be, and I hope he has a fantastic year and becomes the poor man’s Weber/Phaneuf we all know he can be!

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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 1, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dunno about Burrows

Seeing how he’s probably going to miss 15-20 games due to his injury, I’d make a more confident guess at around 45 points in 60 games.

by seedvt on Oct 3, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I missed your comment about “all players playing 82 games.”

But he’s still probably not going to produce as much as last year.

by seedvt on Oct 3, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long time reader, first time commenter

Just wanted to say you guys (and gals) are doing a bang-up job here. Started reading last year around the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. Then I had to endure the doldrums of summer, but the Canucks are back and I am pumped.

Whoa, did I just read that right, Jannik Hansen with 15 goals and 40 points. Lofty expectations, I’d say Malhotra and Torres both outscore Hansen. He’ll be around the same numbers as every other year, 10 goals and 25-30 points.

Oh, and I’ll take Canucks winning the cup at 8-1 odds.

by Major Major Major Major on Oct 1, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the kind words and welcome to the comments section!

Nucks Misconduct
"Here goes nothin'" - Han Solo

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

i read that as

‘welcome to the comments, Section’ and instantly thought ‘oh god now his brother’s here???’. :P
Seriously tho, welcome out of lurkdom.

"F#ck eco-anything, f#ck your tatoos. F#ck all you junkies and f#ck your short memories."
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"When I shake it, I shake it all up, You probably think that my pants have the mumps. It's just my sugarlumps bump ba bump.They look so good, that's why I keep 'em in the front" FotC

by Twitchy2010 on Oct 1, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t lurking; I was skulking

by Major Major Major Major on Oct 1, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s man, welcome aboard.

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

How do you know for sure?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not your mother, that’s a MAN, baby!

by SteveNux on Oct 1, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

titles, please.

Nucks Misconduct chief babe, now with a new Twitter username.
Keep your stick on the ice. Seriously, keep it on the ice, or you'll take another hooking penalty and put the Canucks back on the kill!

by missy on Oct 1, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That one's

Out there to stay!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Opps, meant to say Thanks man…FF freezes on me while I type sometimes.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hansen for 40.

I think this year he gets full ice time on the third line, plus filler time when someone on the top two loses their special teams time because they displeased the coach.

by Thursday on Oct 2, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

A fantasy question

Hey everyone,

I was just wondering what the Canucks 1st PP situation is looking like so far (for fantasy purposes). Is it Edler and….? I was thinking about looking into picking up Ballard or Hamhuis since my league has Hits and Blocked shots as categories, but I wanted to see if either of them were slated for any PP time, too.

by Link_Gaetz on Oct 1, 2010 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

at this point, i’d say Edler and Ehrhoff are sure things. i remember hearing something the other day about what PP units were being drilled at practice, but don’t remember who exactly were on which unit. i remember hearing that Hamhuis was pretty good too.

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by missy on Oct 1, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the reply. I may pick up Ballard just for hits and blocked shots, but we’ll see.

by Link_Gaetz on Oct 1, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’ll want Hamhuis.

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was just going to recommend this

He has looked very good on the PP – 1st PP unit good I think

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by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to reports from training camp, it will be Edler and Ehrhoff on the first unit.

Both are definitely the best offensive options on the Canucks back-end.

But the powerplay configurations could change at any time. Mikael Samuelsson is capable of playing the point, and Hamhuis, Ballard, Bieksa and Salo (if he returns) could all see time back there as well with the man advantage.

Hamhuis could be a good sleeper pick. Moving from a second-pairing role on an scoring-inept club to a top-pairing situation on a gifted offensive team could cause a nice leap in his numbers.

Bieksa could also be a smart VERY late round pick. based on his career pattern he’s due for a good year, and he could be a good combination of hits and offense. But then again, the same could be said for Ballard, who would be a safer pick.

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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 1, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bieksa will be on 1st unit with Ehrhoff or Edler is my guess.

Why? Because he’s the only right-handed shot left for one-timers (yeah, he can’t hit the net) and the Sedins cycle on the right side of the O-Zone.

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by cyxj on Oct 1, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I talked to a Hamhuis fam member today and she said that Dan and his fam are loving Vancouver. They have found that many of the players have kids their age. Best part: Dan said he has never been more excited heading into a season. This is the most excited he has been in his career.

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

That is good to hear!

Hopefully he turns that excitement into production on the ice! Although from the looks of him in the pre-season so far, he already has.

You know, he seems to be playing very confidently – moving the puck easily around the offensive zone, and making solid plays in the defensive zone, and when I watch him, it just looks effortless. Whatever reservations he may have had about playing in the “fish bowl” look to be not affecting him at all. I hope he keeps this up, because this could be a very good year for him if he does.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really great post guys. Love Zanberg’s enthusiasm tempered by Yankee’s cautious pessimism (a true Canuck fan reaction).

I have to say all of these Cup/Conference Champ predictions have me a little uneasy myself. Last year I remember a lot of ‘pundits’ predicting the Flames to win the Cup and we saw how well that went (although I remember wondering how they expected to replace Camalleri’s offense with the addition of J-Bo).

Like you say Yankee this will probably come down to injuries. If the Canucks can stay relatively healthy they should be in competition for the top 2 spots in the Conference. Ditto for the playoffs.

Us fans, however, should be happy with this team on paper, Gillis has addressed some of the needs from last year, although I’m still not sold on our 4th line.

Go Canucks Go, god damn I’m excited for hockey!

by Twincest on Oct 1, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

You can always count on me for pessimism. You know those Corona commercials with the chick on the beach looking at the water? I’d bitch about the sand, I just know it.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

well

sand is pretty aggravating.

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by Twitchy2010 on Oct 1, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d also bitch about the beer selection. And that beaches are boring if you’re just sitting and pondering life.

Is it any wonder I’m single and surly?!

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

i always just assumed

it was your odor.

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by Twitchy2010 on Oct 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great post, oh fearless leaders. Best ’nucks blog in the biz!

by Beantown Canuck on Oct 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

By the way,

I still see Vancouver in the Finals against the Boston Bruins.

I predict the first round will pit 1st place Vancouver against 8th place Edmonton.
yes you read right, I think Edmonton has the right mix of brilliant young talent and solid vets that they can pull off a play-off appearance. If the Avalanche can do it, why not the Oilers?

Our beloved Canucks will then do battle with an even bigger rival: the the 6th place Calgary Flames. With Kiprusoff back to himself after the Keenan fiasco and with his best back-up in years, the Flames will find enough scoring by committee to hop into the post-season. They will then upset the 3rd place San Jose Sharks due to their grit and goaltending, but will flame out against their superiors from across the Rockies.

And then the fiercest opponent yet! 2nd place Detroit, after dispatching the 7th place Columbus Blue Jackets (Arniel for rookie coach of the year!) and Chicago Blackhawks (My vote for best series of the play-offs), will stand up against our heroes! But Luongo will stand on his head and our boys will make it to the Finals!

Where they will meet another team that was 2nd in it’s Conference, the Boston Bruins. After defeating the 7th place Tampa Bay Lightning, the 4th place Pittsburgh Penguins and the 6th place Ottawa Senators, the Bruins will lose to Vancovouer in the finals and the Canucks will hoise their very first Stanley Cup.

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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 1, 2010 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

That's a detailed prediction!

But really, the Sens in the conference finals? I don’t think they are much better (if any) than last year.

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by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

the Sens are a team that nobody really talks about…but they are better than most people think

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also think

They are better than most people think. I just don’t think they are conference final good. They really have to improve their goaltending if they are going to make that big of a push, and guys like Kovalev and Spezza can’t have off years again. If it’s true that LeClaire is working with his old coach again that could help.

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by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, the Sens in the Conference Finals.

They have a very good group of forward, deep in talent and grit. In fact I see only Boston, Washington and Philadelphia as having deeper scoring. Despite tons of criticism, Jason Spezza is one of the better top-line centres in the game. Daniel Alfredsson is still a force despite his age and Mike Fisher and Milan Michalek are solid secondary scorers. Peter Regin and Nick Foligno looked to be on the verge of break-out seasons, and Chris Kelly, Chris Neil and Jarko Ruutu form one of the better third-lines in the NHL. Zack Smith and Jesse Winchester are primed to be spark plugs on the 4th line.

The defense is as mobile was it’s ever been, with Sergei Gonchar and Erik Karlsson the most talented puck-movers Ottawa has ever seen. Chris Phillips is as steady as a rock, and Filip Kuba has been relieved of the burden to be a top offensive blueliner and can return to being a steady all-around second pairing presence. Matt Carkner has emerged as a late-blooming 3rd pairing presence, and Chris Campoli is improving his all-around game. Jared Cowen and Eric Gryba are both big, mean up and comers.

The achilles heal is goaltending, but Brian Elliot can be serviceable for stretches, and Pascal LeClaire is working with his old coach in Columbus who helped him lead the league in shut-outs a few years ago. If worse comes to worse Robin Lehner looks VERY good and after a season in the AHL he could possibly come up at the end of the year and be one of those come-out-of-nowhere play-off heroes.

In my scenario, the Sens play 3rd place New Jersey in the first round. The Devils will have a good regular season thanks to two 50 goal scorers in Kovalchuk and Parise as well as Hall of famer Martin brodeur. But Brodeur will be tired by the play-offs and Kovalchuk hasn’t exactly shined in the post-season. Add that to the loss of depth given Ilya’s new contract, and the Devils spell first-round flop.

Next the Sens would face the 1st place Washington Capitals, who are fresh off a defeat of the 8th seeded Buffalo Sabres. This is where goaltending is important. But I see the ens gritty forward core pounding the hell out of Washington’s skilled but soft front-liners.

Unfortunately for the Sens, their miracle run ends at the hands of a Bruins team that is just a step better.

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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 1, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great preview guys

love the AD reference.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 1, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha

I was thinking of using that one too.

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by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

did someone say, basketball?

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 1, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

FROM DOWNTOWN

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 1, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

FOR THREE

FOR THE WIN

YES!!!!!

LEBRON JAMES

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 1, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’re wasting bandwidth and load time on basketball?? Shame on you!

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look at that shot Zandberg

that is an amazing game winner. Its well worth it.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 1, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. Seen better. If you want to go make a Lebron love fanpost knock yourself out. haha

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

just sharing the Lebron buzzer beater gif of the day

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 1, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know I’m just bugging you right? Don’t make me post a pic of a snake to get my point across!

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 1, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

MOAR BASKETBALL

Dwyane Wade

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 1, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU

Commence shitting your pants and “dribbling”

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bricks

have been shat.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 2, 2010 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

:)

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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

A mosy auspicious post, co-grand poobahs. Let’s hope that October optimism leads to april and May success. Now I must rest. All this positivity is really quite taxing. Go Canucks!

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by Smoboy41 on Oct 1, 2010 2:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Handy English-to-Swedish online translator

Wanted: A first line winger, nose for the net, lightly proficient in Swedish highly desirable.

Well this got me to thinkin’..especially since the twins never seem to pay attention to the detailed instructions I shout at my TV. Solution?..Google’s SPEAKING online English-to-Swedish translator. Best part – it’s in a Swedish accent.

For example: Dank, please do not touch my hart trophy

or

Topshelf where momma hides the Nutella!

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by reggiedunlop on Oct 1, 2010 3:50 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

So. Stoked

OT: SFU internet p-p-pwnd me and disconnected. Couldn’t get back on for an hour. My pool team prolly sux. With lots of Flamers or something equally dreadful.

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by eightyseven on Oct 2, 2010 1:03 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

SFU internet

fucks me over regularly. SFUNET-SECURE is my last hope.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 2, 2010 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That Vancouver general sign was epic.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Oct 2, 2010 4:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Prediction:

Winning the Trophy That Name Thou Dare Shall Not Name

/not the President’s BTW.
//or the Jennings.

by Sneps-ish on Oct 2, 2010 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

lady byng?

Burrows…

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by Twitchy2010 on Oct 2, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent as always bartenders.

his being a favorite is OK with me. Over the past 40 years, it has not happened all that much. And the team is worth getting jacked about.

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by vancitydan on Oct 2, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

This

"If I'd written the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people—including me—would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism."

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by vancitydan on Oct 2, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

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