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Hands up if you called the score in this one? Yeah, no one could have predicted this one, even as bad as the Blue Jackets have been lately I don't think anyone would have foreseen this. Especially they way they found themselves up 2-0 early in the first. Instead of seizing the opportunity, the Jackets looked bewildered, and a mere 29 seconds after Kristian Huselius made it 2-0, Rick Rypien fired a wobbling puck past Steve Mason, and I swear you could hear the entire team let out a huge "OMG here we go again"-type exhalation.

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24 seconds later, the Sedins set up Alex Burrows for his 1st of 3 on the night, and as odd as it sounds as that tied the game, the rout was on. A little over 8 minutes later Burrows struck again, on a carbon copy of the 1st goal, and the Canucks went to the dressing room up by 1 after they had trailed by 2. Henrik Sedin made it 4-2 with his 20th of the season (that line combined for 9 points), but that goal was quickly answered by Kris Russell of Columbus. While Russell had a decent game for the Jackets (about the only player you could say played well for Columbus), that goal was all Aaron Rome, standing in front of the net as though he were waiting for a cab, Russell's shot careening in off his shinpads. Meh. To the pressbox with you, Rome! Ahem. Though it was the 5 on 5 play that killed the Jackets (as it has

 

all season) The Canucks did get a PP goal. Some good work in the corner by Daniel Sedin forced a turnover to Sami Salo who wired one off the post and in. 5-3 and that it got weird. The Jackets appeared to clear the puck out of the zone, but it bounced off a linesman and over to Ryan Kesler, who quickly fed Mikeal Samuelsson. The salty-mouthed Swede fired it past Mason and at 6-3, Columbus coach Ken Hitchcock had seen enough, pulling last years Calder trophy winner and replacing him with Mathieu Garon. Garon let in one in the 3rd, a shorthanded marker from Burrows, on a nice pass from Ryan Kesler for the hat trick. Canucks were 1-3 on the PP while they successfully killed off all 5 Columbus PP's. Rick Nash, even with 2 assists was a non-factor in the game, effectively neutralized for the rest of the evening by the Canucks defense, who really settled down after the quick 2 goals in the first. Nash was a -2 for the night, which tells out about his game. Fedor Tyutin was a -3, while Salo and Burrows were both +3. The win moved the Canucks into a tie for 6th in West, getting the nod over LA and Nashville because they have more wins. They now sit one point back of Colorado, and 2 behind the new division leaders Calgary, who defeated the Predators 3-1 last night. Christian Ehrhoff is now a league leading +22, and Henrik is 1st in the scoring race, tied with Joe Thornton at 55 points, but with more goals. A day off for the Canucks before a shot at redemption against the Phoenix Coyotes Thursday, with a battle against the Flames looming Saturday.

 

While the US's John Carlson may be saying his OT winner was a 'lucky shot', the fact that the US team left Saskatoon with the gold around their necks had very little to do with luck. As we saw in the New Years Eve tilt, Canada had little answer for both the American's speed, giving up numerous odd man rushes throughout the game, and their superior defensive ability. All night long, TSN's Gord Miller and Pierre McGuire marvelled at the Americans' shot blocking ability. That combined with a Canadian team that couldn't hit the net led to just 9 shots on goal in the first half of the game for Canada. Full marks to the Americans, they came into the game knowing all the pressure was on Canada, stuck to their game plan, made the most of a number of bounces they got in the game and didn't flinch when the Jordan Eberle show brought the nation to it's feet. Is that kid unreal? It's going to (eventually) suck to play against the Oilers again.

So what now for Team Canada? Obviously had they been able to ice the team of all eligible players, things might have been a little different. John Tavares and Cody Hodgson, among others would have made a huge difference. With Canada losing the Under 18's and Under 20's in consecutive days to the US, is this just a blip on the radar, or a changing of the guard? That will be up to the Hockey Canada brain trust to decide. This loss will be picked to pieces by experts and the rest of us, as we try and come up with a rationalization for the loss. Why did Jake Allen fall apart like he did in the big game? Why were there so many turnovers, was it just the flow of the play or was it something in the game plan put together by Willie Desjardins and his coaching staff that was flawed? It's likely too early to know the answers. All they can do now is shake off the heartbreak, head back to their junior squads and move forward. Hockey Canada can look at the future, as they prepare for Buffalo, and a shot at redemption. Were the Canadians arrogant, as was suggested by a certain New Jersey Devils sniper who seems to have forgotten his pedigree? No, I don't think so. Confidence should never be mistaken for arrogance, even if it is somewhat unwarranted. The Canadians had confidence, but save for Eberle, lacked the finish needed to attain their 6th straight. As for Parise, we (including Martin Brodeur) will see you in Vancouver in February. Keep your head up, son... and thank you for the dressing room wall material. Not that we need it.

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With Canada losing the Under 18’s and Under 20’s in consecutive days to the US, is this just a blip on the radar, or a changing of the guard?

I have to say that this kind of comment really annoys me as a Canadian. We have won 5 straight WJC until last night where we finished second. We did so without 9 players that could have played in the tournament including the two you mentioned but also Tyler Myers, Matt Duchene, Steven Stamkos, Ryan O’Rielly and more. Almost every year in the previous 5 Gold Medal wins there have been similar lists of players who were eligible but couldn’t play because they were already in the NHL. Canada produces more players than any other nation by far and we consistently win medals at major tournaments. I believe we have now won a medal in 12 straight WJHC and Russia is the next closest with 7. In one game anything can happen. It’s a one off situation and especially in OT anything can happen. One bad bounce, one unlucky play and you lose a game. But to continually win medals, and play in Championship finals is a better representation of how good we are as a hockey nation than simply winning Golds. Fair play to the American’s for winning as they were a very good team but Canada continues to produce hockey players, produce winning teams and produce medals at major tournaments. No other Nation is even close to us in this regard.

by Section 312 on Jan 6, 2010 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

I think Section 312 is in the blip on the radar section :)

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by Yankee Canuck on Jan 6, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

He has a point, tho:

Yes, we had a lotta eligible Canadian kids in the NHL this year, but we’ll prob do that every year. We could, if we do nothing, remain as we are, the best hockey nation with the most talent, but find ourselves losing more WJCs than before because so many of our best players aren’t suiting up.

The American team includes a whole lotta college players and those guys – e.g. Schroeder – have an incentive to stay in school and therefore remain available for the WJC.

The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.

by casual on Jan 6, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

relax...

It’s a discussion point and nothing more. And a fair one at that. Yes we all know Canada is by and far the dominant country, but it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that the US begins to catch up. Let us not forget we went what, 7 years in a row without gold before this streak? It can happen. The main reason I brought up this point was simply because Canada looked unbeatable in this tournament except when they played the US. It’s something to think about so don’t get your patriotic panties in a bunch. I also think it’s good to question the program when we lose rather than sit on past laurels. If we lose, I don’t wanna sit and count banners; I wanna know why it happened and what we can do to prevent it from happening. Do you remember the streak where we couldn’t win gold for love or money? I do and it was f’n brutal to see teams with so much talent (especially in hindsight) losing year after year. They made changes then, and they will for Buffalo. Pointing out the obvious is nice, but I would rather demand more than silver, being the proud and COMPETATIVE Canadian that I am.

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by canucklehead666 on Jan 6, 2010 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t mind that the USA won at all. I also don’t mind seeing other countries win it. I fully approve of countries other than Canada getting stronger and stronger. Now, if we lose for the next 4 years in a row I might change my tone a bit.

by Sean Zandberg on Jan 6, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point there is no evidence and there never has been any evidence that any Nation is “catching up” when it comes to producing quality hockey players. The US has only ever medalled at the WJC something like 6 times. We have 5 gold and a Silver in the last 6. The only reason that the percentage of Canadian players in the NHL dropped in the 90s is that more and more players were coming over from Europe. But that percentage, to my recollection, leveled off again and has been pretty consistent since. We go into every major tournament as the favourite or at the very least as a medal favourite. You can’t win every Gold Medal game. The U17’s that you mentioned is a bad example. That was a US nation team against Team Ontario. That means that the entire US National hockey program at the U17 level is only slightly better than Ontario’s players at that age. Not really too much to panic about is it? We lost a Gold Medal game in OT after an epic comeback that showed what we are best at, heart and determination mixed with skill. Losing a one off game is going to happen from time to time. I maintain that while winning Gold is better than losing it, in terms of judging a hockey nation it is consistent medals at that level which is important. And we are the best at winning medals consistently. Even in those years we weren’t winning the WJHC we were in the final 4 out of 7 years. The US has only been in 3 finals ALL TIME.

by Section 312 on Jan 6, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

who said panic? but if the goal is gold… and you fail, why not look at what went wrong. we were supposed to dominate, and did that except against the US. Why not look at why we struggled to contain them. Look at the choices made, the coaching and the systems. That’s all I am saying… that and I hate ‘resting on our laurels’. If we don’t win, we need to make sure we do the next time, period.

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by canucklehead666 on Jan 6, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

  1. Our goaltending was weak.
  1. The Americans had great team speed and shot-blocking.
  1. We gave up too many odd-man rushes that, combined with #1, really killed us.

The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.

by casual on Jan 6, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Supposed to dominate? Sweden was the pre-tournament favourite. And look what they did in the semi-final against the US. We struggled to contain them because our starting goalie had a bad game and should have been pulled sooner. We struggled because they were slightly faster up front than us. But that said we were in OT in the Gold Medal game. So we can’t have been that bad. No one is resting on anything but to question whether there has been a changing of the guard and saying the US was superior defensively, considering the two teams played twice and scored an equal number of goals against each other, is undue panicking. Chicken Little type stuff if you ask me.

by Section 312 on Jan 6, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

If we had lost in the Quarter Finals like the Russians then I could get on board with what you are saying. But let’s be honest in a Gold Medal game anything can happen. Nothing needs to be looked at in terms of system or player selection or anything else. Again Canada got it right. We just didn’t have a great game on the day. And still got it to OT and almost won it in OT. Losing a gold medal game once in a while isn’t a bad thing. Like Sean said if it happens 2 or 3 years in a row or we lose in an earlier round then maybe we would need to look at what might be going wrong but you don’t need to look at what went wrong after a gold medal loss. You just have to say that once in a while in a one off situation you are going to lose the game.

by Section 312 on Jan 6, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I also think that playing Latvia and the Suiss did not help our cause. Sure we blew them out and got a ton of points but there was no competition in those games. The only competitive games we played were against the US.

by marcness52 on Jan 6, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, like they were saying on 1040, it’s probably a good thing for them to lose once in a while. The pressure that would be on the team next year would be pretty immense. Now there isn’t all that pressure to keep the gold medal streak alive and the players can just go out and relax and play their game.

by marcness52 on Jan 6, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Think about the fact that the US beat us in OT. We beat them in a SO. People are going on and on about how great the US team was and how much better they were than Canada. Seems to me the teams were very even. It’s always easier to look at the negatives after a loss but there are a lot of positives to take as well. A top prospect not taken, Seguin, and 8 or 9 NHLers that could have been there is they were available. The team did very well considering.

by Section 312 on Jan 6, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Again

Section knows, too funny that if Canada doesn’t win every single WJC then suddenly there’s something wrong, even if they lose in OT in the final while missing their top 8-9 eligible players.

Canada is without their very best, often quite a number every single WJC and still usually win gold or come very close, I feel quite certain that if we were actually able to send our A team every time, we would win gold almost every time… and yet the once or twice we didn’t we’d have to listen to how something is wrong…

by yoata on Jan 6, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Were the Canadians arrogant,

After watching the Canada-Swiss game I thought there was some arrogance. Running over guys with under 5:00 to go while being up 6-1 is stupid. So is running up the scoreboard in the medal rounds. What good does that do? I almost don’t feel bad that that Canadian kid got boarded and separated his shoulder late in the Swiss game. The Swiss were humiliated and angry and I don’t blame them.

by Sean Zandberg on Jan 6, 2010 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

The reason you run up the score in the medal round is that you can’t afford, in a short tournament, to take your foot off the gas. You can’t afford to develop bad habits and you can’t afford to let your intensity level drop. Otherwise when you play the better teams you will be lacking the necessary edge to compete.

by Section 312 on Jan 6, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Tie breakers

are also GF/GA are they not?

by yoata on Jan 6, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

medal rounds

I hate the 16-0 games, but until the IIHF gets rid of goals for as a tie breaker then that is what we are stuck with… I disagree with with the hit from behind though, that is what reeks of poor sportsmanship. sure they got humiliated, but injuring another player with a dirty hit is no way to do it… hit him in open ice, I can at least respect that…

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by canucklehead666 on Jan 6, 2010 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

a Canadian player did it earlier and no penalty was called

by Sean Zandberg on Jan 6, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

on the arrogance...

that was a reference to Zach Parise’s comments he made to Team USA before the game, I dont have the exact quote, but it could be excellent dressing room wall material in Feb.

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by canucklehead666 on Jan 6, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Small Correction

Henrik and Thornton are tied at 58 points.

by marcness52 on Jan 6, 2010 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

Another correction

Henrik has more goals, therefore, he is in first place :)

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by canucklehead666 on Jan 6, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

Arrogance?

What about Palmieri running the G with a 2 goal lead late in the game? Damn near bit him in the ass bigtime, would have been poetic.

by yoata on Jan 6, 2010 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

I disagree. The Swiss were already pissed of by that point because Canada was playing in arrogant fashion. Either way, that was a bad penalty to take

by Sean Zandberg on Jan 6, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

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