Sunday Morning Coffee- The Comeback
Spotting a team a 3 goal lead is something no team should make a habit of, even if it is the Toronto Maple Leafs. But the comeback that the Vancouver Canucks pulled off last night at the ACC was nothing short of magical. Alex Burrows got things started on the scoreboard, but it was Darcy Hordichuck's tilt with Leafs tough guy Colton Orr that seemed to awaken the beast that is the Vancouver Canucks.
From there it was all Alex Burrows and the Sedins, as they showed the people at the ACC and the rest of the nation what all the noise is about here on the left coast. Burrows got it going with a short-handed gem, his league leading 4th of the season after stripping Alexei Ponikarovsky, streaking down the ice and despite being hooked deposited a beautiful back hand top shelf on Vesa Toskala. That was the opening the Canucks needed after Roberto Luongo gave up 2 goals in the first 4 minutes to Phil Kessel and one to Jamal Mayers in the last minute of the first.
With Andrew Raycroft in at the start of the 2nd for Luongo, the team tightened up defensively. They worked hard for the Canucks backup, knowing how important a comeback win against the team that ran him out of town and still pays a portion of his salary would be to him. The third period was something that we have become used to this year, but must have been both disheartening yet awe-inspiring for the Leafs Nation to witness, as the Sedins and Burrows toyed with the Leafs, cycling and passing the puck as though they were men playing against boys. And if there were ever an example of how in sync Burrows is with the twins, you just need to look at this pass to set up Daniel Sedin:
A couple minutes later, the Canucks tied it up again, this time Henrik Sedin getting in on the scoring from Daniel and Alex, and you could feel the collective sigh of an entire fan base.
Turnovers will kill you, and the Sedin line were relentless in their pressure, forcing a number of turnovers, none more glaring than on that goal. They kept up the pressure, and then with a little over two minutes remaining in regulation, the dagger was drawn and sunk into the heart of the Leafs:
The icing on the cake came in the last minute, as Burrows capped off a spectacular performance with an empty netter, and we all know who that was for:
While this night was all about the Sedin line, the second line had another decent game, managing a few chances. Kyle Wellwood and Pavol Demitra both played well, but Steve Bernier was awful last night, and given the way he's played this season that is really saying something. He was benched by coach Alain Vigneault, who moved Rick Rypien up to the third line in his place. I will not be surprised to see Ryan Johnson draw back in and Bernier get scratched in Montreal on Tuesday.
A real feel-good, team building kind of win to get the trip started. You know Roberto Luongo will bounce back against the Canadiens, but it was nice to see Rayzor come in and shut the door. After the rocky start our patchwork D really locked things down, Alex Edler was an impressive +4, and Nolan Baumgartner a +2. Another stat that really jumped out at me was Daniel's 8 shots on goal. That, and Kessel scoring two goals and still ending the night -1.
You have to give the Leafs credit for jumping on the Canucks early and doing a good job of limiting the Canucks chances in the first. With the news out of Toronto this morning that major changes are coming (likely JS Gigeure coming over from the Ducks), maybe now they can remember that theyre supposed to be rebuilding. I feel sorry for them that Burke couldn't resist his old ways and traded away those picks for Kessel. He set them back a year or two easily by doing that.
A big ol' Sunday breakfast buffet, complete with soul-crushing despair
Well the showdown of the two most brutal teams in the month of January was over early, as the Flames stomped the hapless Oilers 6-1. Adding insult to injury, literally was the news that Oilers D Sheldon Souray broke his hand fighting Jarome Iginla, as he tried to settle the score with the Flames captain for the gutless hit from behind earlier in the season that put him out of the lineup with a concussion. Iginla had a big night for the Flames with 2 goals and 2 assists, and while they celebrated heartily, sweeping their hated rivals for the first time in the 29 year history of the Battle of Alberta, this team has far from fixed the issues that are wrong with it. Changes should still be expected in Calgary, and as the Olympic break nears, expect moves.
One of the knocks on the Canucks this season was that blemish on their record against the East. After 3 impressive wins on their first Eastern road swing, they went into Carolina and laid a dud against the Hurricanes. That loss doesn't look quite so bad after the Hurricanes did the same thing to the Chicago Blackhawks last night, with a 4-2 victory. Cam Ward was stellar for the 'Canes, including robbing Patrick 'Shirt on the ground' Kane point blank in the dying seconds. With that win, the 'Canes pulled even with the Leafs in the basement of the Eastern Conference.
A big overtime win for the Ottawa Senators yesterday over the Montreal Canadiens, a costly one for both teams. Mike Cammalleri appeared to have blown out an MCL after being hit awkwardly into the boards, and Ottawa's Nick Foligno suffered a fractured leg after blocking a shot. Cammalleri will have an MRI on Monday, while Foligno will be out of the lineup 6 to 8 weeks. That was Ottawa's 9th consecutive win, making Thursday's match against the Canucks even more intriguing.
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phaneuf to the Leafs
along with the expected announcement that JS Giguere is coming, the only thing is, there must be massive amounts of Leafs moving to clear the salary for these two players
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:29 AM PST reply actions
you have to think they’re sending Schenn the other way… love that all the ’Phaneuf’s not going anywhere’ talk was just more BS from Sutter… wow… this is a stunning move, but really, Dion wasn’t doing well under media scrutiny in Calgary. Sending him to T.O. almost seems like a punishment
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
Phaneuf, sjostrom, aulie to the Leafs
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:34 AM PST up reply actions
still hearing rumblings that something involving LA could be in the works as well… I think the trading flood gates are going to open here, folks
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
The rumblings out of New York are saying that Glen Sather is stepping down at the end of the season to be replaced by… Mark Messier. I say, why wait? The change might actually kickstart them into a playoff spot
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Giguere is a done deal… details coming
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
Toskala on the way to Anaheim
this isn’t good… speculation is that the Flames are clearing cap space for Ilya Kovalchuk… they still need to clear room plus give up a huge asking price… will see what develops. Love that deadline day seems to have come early this year
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Matt Stajan and Ian White to the Flames
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
Stajan is a free agent at the end of the season and due for a raise… not sure but I think White is an RFA
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
lol
yeah I have it covered
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
All comments on this
moved to Nucks & Pucks fan post
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 8:49 AM PST reply actions
After the game
All last night and this morning as well, visions of Sedinery have been dancing around in my head.
For those who don't mind a bit of schadenfreude
Over at Space Weed there is an after-game report that is worth reading.
nice
(quietly hopes everyone forgets my first intermission meltdown yesterday and if not, I am fully throwing the meds out there as my excuse)
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Temporary Insanity
is part of loving our Canucks.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
heheh
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 31, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
as long as we have you here...
thoughts on the trades? I think you guys came out the winners in a big way. what’s with your team having your way with the flames trade-wise?
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
There are varied thoughts. John Fischer (from In Lou We Trust) thinks the Leafs got ripped in that trade, as they traded alot of offense for a bad contract and a good prospect. For me both teams won: The Leafs get a great player (and a guy who’s going to kill Avery, DOUBLE WIN!) and the ability to move Tomas Kaberle for alot in the off-season for an elite center. The Flames get some secondary scoring and a playmaking center for Iginla, as well as a good defenseman in White, which plugs some of their holes.
The 2nd move is by far the Leafs best move. Burke acquires a conn-smythe winner and big-game goalie at the cost of two buckets of crap. Plus Giguere has 1 more year left on his contract. Once Giguere’s contract is over, they dump $6 million in salary (which is a Delayed salary dump, except with some use).
Expect some more moves by Burke in the future, he’s going to be making a team out of misfits and kids
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 31, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
There are chippy assmonkey players that you love to have on your team, even if u can’t stand them when they’re on another team (ie pronger). But Phaneuf to me has absolutely no redeeming qualities (except maybe a spectacular singing voice)…I wouldn’t want him on my team either. He’s an overrated cheapshot of a disaster, and I almost feel bad for leafs fans having to get him (note: almost…it is the leafs after all). Sorry leafs, I think you got the short end of that particular deal. The other one tho…
This is hard for me to say as a Canucks fan but…Phaneuf….is a..serviceable..defenseman. He’s a physical presence with offensive capabilities. Having said that, he is a bit dirty and definitely not worth 6.5 million.
He’s 24? He’s still at least 2 years away from the beginning of his prime as a D-man, and may be as much as 4 years out. Considering that most d-men mature later and come into their own later, what the Leafs are buying is the potential. It’s a bet the Leafs can afford to make, they have the cash after all and nowhere to go but up.
Even if they flogged all their offence?
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re looking in the long term, yes they can afford it. In the short term I suspect that Boston is going to be thrilled. Also Burke may not be done yet of course. I do however wish that his ‘playoffs’ bull would stop.
Without the number 1 picks this season or next then I think he has to try to shoot for the playoffs. It doesn’t serve the team any purpose to finish last. So I think he actually is trying to make the playoffs. I just don’t know if blowing up your team in the middle of the season is the right way of going about it. Although they’re last in the conference so I guess it couldn’t hurt, could it?
I have a dislike for Ron Wilson from the days he was an inept special teams coach for the Canucks, so I ask, why didn’t Burke fire Wilson first and see how things went before getting rid of 1/3 of his team?
by Bobby Canuck on Jan 31, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
the downside to all this...
you think we hear enough about Phaneuf now? Get ready for All Dion All The Time. Pierre McGuire is sneaking into the bathroom as we speak to Monsterbate over this trade
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 10:40 AM PST reply actions
Monsterbate! haha. Holy shit I slept in and I wake up to madness. I gotta wrap my head around these trades. Canucks…what shit disturbers heh?
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, Burkay
Gotta love our team. Always catalyzing change.
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by eightyseven on Jan 31, 2010 12:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions
what the hell is going on....
I think this is a good short-term trade for the Flames. Ian White’s been very solid on the Leafs this year, and Stajan and Hagman should give them See-Gee-Whys a very solid second line.
Long-term, I guess it depends on how Phanoof pans out. Calgary has much more salary cap flexibility now, though.
To me, the Flames flat-out win that deal. Ian White is fine, plus they get all that scoring depth. Plus they loose a doof in Phanoof: a skilled, tough, yet mindless idiot.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
yeah. i’m much more bummed out about this trade than the Jokinen one last year.
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Jokinen is a tool too. I’m surprised they haven’t flogged him too. Dammit. I have always liked Stajan and White. Now they plays for the team I hate!
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
i agree about stajan and white
over at PPP, those were 4 players they seemed to love that all got sent to calgary today. it’s gonna get interesting….
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…the most.
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Such a bummer indeed. The Flames will almost immediately turn it around now. The guys they got all buy into Sutter’s defensive structure and add scoring too. Phanoof was not that guy. Bouwmeester IS
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t get exactly why they turn it around? Was Dion THAT big of a problem in the locker room ( don’t tell PPP, they are splooging their pants right now! ) ?
I like Hagman, but I really don’t think this turns the Flamers totally around.
They picked up a bunch of guys that got a crash course in losing.
The Canucks have more to be worried about with the Avs than the Flamers.
Interesting times. Its natural for people overstate the changes and such, but I look for them to win 2-3 in a row, than get back to bad habits. I doubt this move gets either Joke-inen or J-Bo scoring. That is a bigger prob’ for them!
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Wanna make a bet? I’ve watched Stajan for a long time. Great 2-way player. A crash course in losing? That makes no sense. They get a fresh start on a team in a playoff race. Those 2 are not losers by any stretch. Nor is White.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
No...they are L-O-S-E-R-s!
You just have that residual Leaf love deep down inside!!!
Stajan and White, and Hagman too, are good players IN THE EAST!
They may play in those “big” games against Ott. and Mon., but they sure as hell have not seen the Tong Wars that are the NW and the Western Conference.
Good players, not great.
What’s the bet? You saying that with these guys they challenge for the NW division again?
I say a short turn gain, and a peter out at the end of the season.
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What’s the bet? You saying that with these guys they challenge for the NW division again?
Damned straight
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
What's the bet Big Time!!?
This is fun!!!
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I am saying they might have a short term bump...but overall, they got no better.
Thats what I am saying. I wouldn’t have given up Aulie either…you can’t just keep raping the cupboard.
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$100. The money goes to charity. Let’s make the bet. I say Flames finish 4 points or less away from the Division title.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
I told you 20.00
I am currently “between employment opportunities”, remember?
4 points or less?
For 20.00…here is my hand to seal the deal!
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Deal!
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Plus heckling and bragging rights and all that stuff. You better blind yourself and get a set of earplugs
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
that handshake is lame in that image, haha. We shake hands like MEN goddammit!
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Done.
“It got wierd, didn’t it”?
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By the way, Stajan has 2 goals and 11 assists in 14 games against Western teams this season.
Just so you know.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
I believe Hagman has 7 goals and 2 assists in 13 games against western teams.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
spin
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So it begins.
This just in Dion is still a douche,
Joke-inen is STILL a tool, and even White’s moustache is not going to be enough for you to win bud!!
Late breaking news…SOB is having a far better season at 1.5 than J-Bo and his huge deal!
Flames still suck…
That is all…
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Damn I want u to lose this bet zandberg…I very much hope and expect to see the flames NOT make the playoffs. Regardless of how good the new additions do.
They will make the playoffs alright but 4 pts or less from the division title? The Nucks will be taking that position. Sean what were you the thinking? The Nucks are going to be rocking out the rest of this year with a super hot Rayzor/Lou goal tending tandem, our top line dominating the scoring race and Ehrhoff winning the plus minus title. Calgary will never get that close :)
Flames just have to be within 4 points. It’s a bit of risk on my part but it’s just $20. KK the confident! I like it!
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Let's see.
Am I getting odds?
I have a 20.00 ( lets keep it friendly! ) that says…lets see….the Flamers don’t win ther NW division.
Not without another deal.
They may be good the next couple games, because everyone is happy the Coke Fiend is gone…but really, this deal plugs some good but not great Eastern players into the West.
I really think you and Passive both dismiss how much better the West is, and how so many of those points guys like Stajan, Hagman and White have come from playing inflated minutes on an inferior team, in an inferior conference.
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Disagree on pretty much all counts.
One interesting note—both Hagman and Jokinen played at HIFK in the late 90’s. They might have some insta-chemistry; I can actually easily see this getting Onli Jokin’en going.
As for the “crash course in losing”, I don’t think it’ll matter. It’s not like they’ve been losing in, say, Miami. They’ve been in the pressure-cooker that is T.O. Who knows; maybe the promise of playoff hockey will get them motivated to play even better?
I’d also say that today, the Flames are a better team than the Avs. Obviously the Avs have a head start at this point in the year, but if the question were “which team would I fear more in a 7-game series?”, the answer is without a doubt the CGY.
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t Hagman play with Joke in Florida too?
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I never underestimate the Avs anymore.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
oh definitely. but i really like this move for calgary.
:(
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
me too. For me right now I couldn’t see who I’d rather play or not.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Pffffhhht!
Come on you poofters.
Grow a pair for your team.
No one can stop the Juggernucks and the Wonder Twins.
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(JK boys…though, I think the Avs have a much more balanced team than the Flamers. )
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And with the Giguere deal, well the Leafers are so ecstatic that they get a goalie with a Cup ring, but Giguere is going to see a lot of rubber in front of a team that has even less offence than they did yesterday.
I guess Burke is bracing himself to lose Kaberle and Toskala to free agency. But I just can’t stand hearing that the Leafs needed better goaltending. How about more scoring and better team D???
…. toskala went to anaheim…. (so did blake)
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that’s what I meant in my ramble. Both Kaberle and Toskala are free agents at the end of the year and are getting raises. Now Toskala is Anaheim’s problem
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
is he a pending UFA? is giguere? is blake? i’m guessing that move was just for flexibility reasons on the ducks’ part.
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Giguere has one more year left, Blake has two. Toskala and Kaberle are UFA’s this summer
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
yikes, two more for Blake? that’s some crazy talk. he’s at around 4mil per, right? (nhl numbers has been down or me all morning)
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, he’s $4 million, but he could be a bit less with incentives that he isn’t hitting, not sure
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, I was wrong. Kaberle has 1 more year left.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s just see how he plays behind Hiller from here on out. He doesn’t need a bunch of shutouts to raise his value.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sure the Russians would if the NHL wouldn’t.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
This just in
Dion Phaneuf placed under suicide watch.
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
hahahahaha!
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did he cry during his interview? I haven’t seen it yet
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
It's the subtle differences

"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
Lets be fair guys, Dion's not an all-star smoker like Carey Price
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Dion Can’t smoke 3 cigarettes at once.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 31, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
A Dennis Leary skit comes to mind…haha. “I’m gonna get 10 tracheotomies so I can smoke a pack all at once! I’ll be known as tracheotomy man!”
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
I still think Calgary got hosed
As mentioned Phaneuf is a serviceable defenseman and at 24 likely to get better (I think his downturn has more to do with media pressure and a system that really doesn’t work than anything else). They got some ok players, but when you think about the fact they gave up another roster player and one of their precious few prospects for 2 UFA’s and and RFA out of that 4… I would be interested to see the scoring stats of Stajan, White and Hagman against Western teams. Let’s face it, there are some teams in the East that you can pad your stats against, even the Leafs can do it…
Burke trading both Toskala and Blake was a stroke of genius… but I am still not convinced this is any kind of improvement for the Flames apart from getting the dressing room 50% more free of poison than it was last night
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 2:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Impeccable logic. It must be difficult to be so smart and yet so wrong ;)
Burke has the Leafs on the road to hell. Giguere has not been able to play goal since the equipment change.
There was really nothing wrong with Toskala last night. Hell he was only Leaf still playing in the last half of the game. Think of it this way Giguere could not play goal for a very good team Toskala struggled in Toronto sure but look what he had in front of him? Sorry but Giguere is a boat anchor with a huge salary. Toronto fans will calling for his scalp in three weeks.
As for the Phaneuf deal I am convinced that it work out well for Calgary. Agitators that refuse to drop their gloves are better off somewhere else. Phanuef’s points total are fine and he is a talented guy but he has between the ears issues. He is a mistake pron chippy asshole that lets everyone else do his dirty work. I like the group that Calgary got for him from the Leafs. They will help the Flames.
As a result of these trades plus the Kessel deal Burke may be run out of Toronto by the end of the year. I am not a Burke fan but he is a risk taker and do like the fact that got some deals going in this league.
I hear ya, KK.
So, Burke was spouting off about how he thinks the Leafs can still make the playoffs, but then he pisses away most of his offence. He’s either full of shit and is trying to rebuild now, or he’s full of shit and still has a huge ace up his sleeve.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Burkes big plan was to steal the twins this summer. Remember his red eye flight to Stockhom. Oh no i was not going to see if i could talk to Dan and Hank. I was just er um sight seeing yea that’s it I was sight seeing.
Since then it has been all downhill. He has no plan. Nothing up his sleeve. He is starting to feel the heat and looks worried. These are desperation moves.
all of the above
and I still don’t think the Flames will make the playoffs, and that’s a thought I had from the pre-season forward. The only way they make it in is off someone like Nashville or Phoenix drops out… it’s not gonna be Detroit on the outside I tell you that much
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
Meanwhile on the PPP Leafs site
Those poor delusional bastards are doing cartwheels. God it must suck to be a Leafs fan.
I can’t believe Phaneuf is a Leaf. Damn it! Well, at least he is my new most hated Leaf since Robert Reichel. Somebody had to dethrone that piece of sh*t.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
If anyone needed proof that Burkie’s marbles have been displaced, check out this quote from regarding phanoooof:
"He makes our powerplay better. He’s a big hitter, and a quality human being. We’re thrilled to have him."
So, ok I can grudgingly agree with most parts of that statement:
The leafs powerplay was worse than poo, last night notwithstanding, so a new skatesharpener and picture of a hot chick on the lockerroom wall might have made that better.
Diane Fanoof is a big hitter.
The leafs are where big talent goes to die, so a shakey moderate talent probably is thrilling to them.
It’s the quality human being bit that makes me curious.
The Karma that will haunt Phaneuf the rest of his life...
from habsinsideout1 on twitter (hoping to find the link for this quote) and if it’s true… wow.
‘Leaving #Flames for #Leafs, Phaneuf says, “If Wayne Gretzky can be traded…” Seriously, he did’
Are you fucking kidding me???? This kid has the audacity to imply that he is as huge a player to Calgary and the game of hockey as Wayne Gretzky was? If I am a Flames fan I am driving this fucker to the airport myself to rid the team of the embarrassment and ego of this giant foreheaded douchebag extraordinaire.
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions
I wouldn’t hold that quote against him. It’s just a generic way of saying no one’s too big to be traded, even a star like Phaneuf who, thru that quote, is saying he isn’t as big as Gretzky, anyway.
I’m not a Phaneuf fan, but fair’s fair.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I hear that all the time from talking heads and the like. As big a shit as Dianne is, I don’t think even he would say that meaning “I’m roughly equivalent to Wayne Gretzky”.
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Of course he doesn’t mean that. Hello context! But Phaneuf does think he is the shiz though. I have heard that 2nd hand from 2 NHL players.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
That I can believe. If he’s prone to admiring himself, being in T.O., with all its media attention to the Leafs, could easily bring out either his best or his worst on the ice. The key will be the first few weeks; maybe that’s why Burkie is trying so hard to say nice things and get DP off to a hopefully good start w/the media there.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
So then Phaneuf = McCabe? Wouldn’t that be funny as hell.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
I just think this ties in to the whole reason we starting hearing the rumblings coming out of there in the first place, that he is a Me-firster… given the guys well known ego, it’s not hard to imagine him saying this
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by canucklehead666 on Jan 31, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
they’re all abuzz at M&G over a potential deal with NYR.
it would be just like fucking Sather to take Joke or Sarich off their hands for assets.
The Flames need to rid themselves of Jokinen, but that salary is a tough one.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
hahahahaha!
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honest to god, i love him. unabashed, homosexual love.
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
too bad the clip didn’t go on for 20 more seconds. He probably started dry-humping Demo’s leg! OK, I don’t want to see that. Maybe Passive does tho.
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
hm. demo makes that a pretty tough proposition.
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
I believe his doing his own version of “Pants on the ground”.
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
Caucasian style.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
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Like Steve Martin in The Jerk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Vp9fQ616k
"He's a coward, he'll always be a coward, at least he was man enough to hit me when I was looking this time."
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Flames expected to deal Jokinen to the Rangers for Kotalik and Higgins or Gilroy. www.tsn.ca will have the details as they break.
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new tweet, 3 minutes ago
“Gilroy is not involved”
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new tweet, 1 minute ago
Jokinen and Prust for Kotalik and Higgins.
there goes rypper’s punching bag….
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seems like a weird-ass deal for the flames. clearing cap space i assume.
by Passive Voice on Jan 31, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
tsn is saying that calgary and new york are expected to make this announcement tonight.
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May not have anything to do with Kovalchuck. Could be just two teams swapping under performers. The rumours are just a swirling out there though. Burke sure knows how to get a party started :)
Hey Dan! Wanna back down on your bet? 2 poisons that Flames had, Phaneuf and Jokeinen are gone in one day. Mission accomplished, Sutter. Job well done!
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 31, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
Add in 2 more poisons in Kotalik and Higgins. Although I guess they’re cheaper fails to have on your team. It still doesn’t really make sense unless they’re somehow going to convert Kotalik into Kovalchuk. Why would Atlanta want Kotalik?
The Joke and Ripper's Speed Bag for...
Kotelicker and Higgy?
Nahhh…I am good.
That deal is a bad one for the Flamers, or a needed one if the “cancer” rumor was true. Not a great one. I don’t have their $$$ numbers at the moment.
But Olli did 11-24-35 this year. ( Prust is negligible at 1-4-5, but no one pays him to score )
Kotetails is surely underperforming at 8-14-22. Higgy makes around 3.5 or 4 right? 6 freaking goals and 8 assists. And don’t give me that "great 2 way player " bullshit!
That deal looks like more garbage in/ garbage out than anything else.
I put up a fanpost to break down the east/West thing for ya too Sean.
You are welcome.
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FYI
Jokinen=$5.25M
Prust=$0.5M
Kotalik=$3M
Higgins=$2.25M
So it’s a pretty close trade, cap-wise.
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This
looks way too weird.

"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Maybe a bad break for the Oilers (no pun intended), as I think Souray could fetch a good return at the deadline.
They don’t really have anything else to sell.
Poutine & Meatballs
They’re going to be sellers anyways right now since they have no hope to reach the playoffs. If anything, they’ll try to free up cap space.
Cap space for what? I’ll be amazed if any frontline FA signs with the Oilers
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