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Monday Morning Coffee- Still no respect, huh?

 

While the Canucks continue their march to the top of the Northwest Division, the respect for this team and the way they have handled some of the elite teams in the NHL certainly is slow in coming.  A lot of it has to do with Auger-gate, as writers and other media types piled on the team for defending Alex Burrows.  They attacked the team, the organization and the fans.  They brought up that the team hasn't won the Stanley Cup.  They called us every derogatory fan-related name under the sun for daring to believe in this team.  What do I think?  Good.  Bring it on.  All you've done is forced Canucks fans to come to terms with their pride, and realize this team is something to be excited about.

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Go on.  Call us names, accuse us of everything under the sun.  Whine about us being whiners.  It carries that much more weight after they've handed your team another loss.  This team and it's fans don't care.  Not willing to respect the team for it's accomplishments?  Fine, but that list of those who do is getting smaller as people start to wake up and realize what's going on over here on the Wet Coast.  We have one of the best goalies in the world, the top scorer in the league, and play a style that blends a responsible defensive mindset with a speed-based offensive attack.  This team is as billed at the start of the season: a contender.  Bitch and moan all you want, it's merely fuel for the fire that drives the legion of Canuckleheads forward.

Okay... off the soapbox and on to the actual important stuff.  Big game against our expansion rivals tonight.  And a lot of the hype on Buffalo leading up to this match was their stellar record against Western teams.  That has cooled somewhat as they are 0-2-1 in their last three on the trip, but still not a team to take lightly.  Ryan Miller has been an unbelievable force in goal for the Sabres this season, well deserving of the Vezina and Hart trophy talk.  I haven't had the chance to see them in action too much, but they appear to be a smaller team than some of the other top squads in the East, lots of lunch pail guys who work hard, shoot the puck a lot and rely on their speed to create chances.  A lot of the talk focuses on the match up between Miller and Roberto Luongo tonight, as two Olympic goalies battle for a little bragging rights.  With a win tonight, the Canucks will have their first 5 game winning streak of the season.  Alex Burrows will be looking to continue his recent tear, as he currently rides an 11 game point streak.

You always hurt... the ones you love

A quiet night in the NHL, but not a boring on by any stretch.  Another biting incident between the Penguins and Flyers yesterday, as the Flyers Aaron Asham accused Matt Cooke of biting him in a scrum at the end of the 2-1 win for the Pens.  Earlier in the season Scott Hartnell was accused of biting a Penguins player.  Cooke scored the winning goal in that game.

A lot of frustration in Boston as the team continues it's post-Winter Classic funk.  While not a Flames-style freefall, with the East as tight as the West this year, the Bruins are in danger of slipping out of the top 8, and that has fans up in arms.  The solid goaltending they were getting from Tukka Rask and Tim Thomas seems to have dried up, and goals are now hard to come by.  Losing 5-1 to Carolina yesterday certainly didn't help this situation. 

Colorado continues to defy logic as they won their 6th straight 4-0 over Dallas.  The Stars continue to be unable to make ground and get into the top 8, and rumours persist they will try and deal upcoming UFA Marty Turco by the deadline.


Just 3 games on tap for tonight, the Penguins take on the Rangers (admit it, you want to see the Rangers lose just to see what Torts will say after the game), St. Louis visits Calgary as the Flames try and stop the bleeding that is their season, and as mentioned the Sabres visit Vancouver for the first time in 11 years or something stupid like that.

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I was watching the Hurricanes-Bruins highlights last night and thinking that the Bruins’ D was ass. I was also thinking that Ray Whitney would look good on our 3rd line center position. He’s still got skills and wheels.

by Sean Zandberg on Jan 25, 2010 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

I’m pretty sure he’s exclusively a winger though?

by Beantown Canuck on Jan 25, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm, I swear I saw him play center before.

by Sean Zandberg on Jan 25, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I second Beantown, I’m pretty sure he’s a winger 98% of the time.

And I have him on two different fantasy teams. He’s been great as of late. I wouldn’t mind renting him.

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on Jan 25, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Only if we get rid of Bernier.

So, like yoata said, Matt Cullen is about the perfect choice.

by Sean Zandberg on Jan 25, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a little worried that CBC might try to get some retribution but I really don’t see how they can. I was thinking that if I was a CBC exec I might think about dumping a Canucks game in favour of some other Canadian team but looking at the schedule I don’t think they can. Hockey day in Canada is too important, plus we are playing the Leafs, and that game HAS to be on CBC obviously. Then the next time we play on a Saturday on CBC it’s the Senators we play against and they can’t really punish another Canadian team to get even with us and the Red Wings is the next time after that that we are on CBC. Now we are well into March and there are no other games on tap that could replace a Canadian team. Seems like, whether by luck or not, the Canucks really timed their protest of CBC well.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."

by Section 312 on Jan 25, 2010 9:39 AM PST reply actions  

CBC would never dump a game because they were angry. They’d just alienate their viewers. All they care about, or should care about, is the quality of their production and their ratings.

by Beantown Canuck on Jan 25, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Also...

…any publicity is good publicity. CBC can use it.

by Jevant on Jan 25, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

CBC? They still around?

The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.

by casual on Jan 25, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

CBC and Ron McLean are not the same. Ron is working for CBC. He is just an employee. If CBC executives have any common sense, they will tell McLean to make amends with the Canucks, at ANY price, even if Ron has to kiss Gillis’s ass and apologize. It would be insane to alienate Vancouver hockey fans just because some idiot (McLean) decided to do an opiniated editorial.
This is business, not a pissing contest.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jan 25, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

You are working under the assumption that any of the CBC execs actually care about anything West of Thunder Bay. The Canucks boycotted the CBC so it is about more than just MacLean now. I don’t think anything will happen but you never know with the CBC. They don’t care about viewers. Their bottom line isn’t affected by advertising revenue. It’s all tax dollars.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."

by Section 312 on Jan 25, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s true, they are government-owned,so they are given a long leash to screw up and apply bad business sense.
If they really don’t care about viewers, than of course they are totally incompetent. It should be all about viewership and market share. Vancouver is a biggest market on the West Coast.
But then again, since it’s government, they may not give a shit….one more reason to dump any product made by government.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jan 25, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

100% false. They are heavily reliant on advertising revenue. The CBC has been making cutbacks left and right due to decreased funding. HNIC is their biggest money maker and the revenue matters greatly.

by Beantown Canuck on Jan 25, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the issue here : if viewership and advertising dollars matter, then they will cater to the viewers’ needs, and Ron’s opinion doesn’t matter.
If not, then Ron has more room to ramble.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jan 25, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Check the books. Cut backs means they have sacrificed a lot of local coverage in small towns and rural areas. The ad revenue from HNIC and other profitable programs helps the CBC but by far the biggest bulk of their operating budget is still government funding. The CBC doesn’t care about viewers. They never have and they never will. Not to mention that ratings aren’t that much better when the Nucks are on versus the Flames or Oilers.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."

by Section 312 on Jan 25, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

wow

kinda funny when you read the headline given mine this morning…
http://espn.go.com/nhl/powerrankings?year=2010&week=18

http://waachcast.blogspot.com/ < WAACHCast Blog

by canucklehead666 on Jan 25, 2010 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

meanwhile

more whinging from chicago… love how they admit it’s a non-story, yet try like hell to make it one. meh, guess they gotta latch on to something after taking their worst loss of the year against a defensively hobbled team playing their 3rd in 4 nights. Leafs fever (the deflection of anger and frustration at your own team onto others) is catching on in Chicago I guess

http://waachcast.blogspot.com/ < WAACHCast Blog

by canucklehead666 on Jan 25, 2010 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

if the shoe...

were on the other foot, I’d be irritated too. You can’t call someone a coward immediately after agreeing to fight and then going for a takedown without even trying to trade punches. Hey I love Kesler and I think he just couldn’t get good position and didn’t want to get destroyed, but at that point you keep your comments to yourself.

by beemser on Jan 25, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

the coward comment

goes back to his cheapshot on Kes in the playoffs, and how didn’t hit him from behind this time

meh… lucky shot as far as I am concerned. Ladd’s a cocky little douche who will get what’s coming to him someday

http://waachcast.blogspot.com/ < WAACHCast Blog

by canucklehead666 on Jan 25, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Reppin’ Maple Ridge, what what.

"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"

- Dallas Stars Forum

by eightyseven on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, there was a big crowd out here in the Ridge the day Ladd had the Cup. Got my autographed picture and everything. His Dad used to go around town totally decked out in Hurricanes gear.

Brandon Yip is another Ridge kid having some success in the NHL. I’d be able to get behind these kids more if they played in the East.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Jan 25, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I shake my fist at Mr. Yip. Doing so well for the team we’re chasing in standings.

"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"

- Dallas Stars Forum

by eightyseven on Jan 25, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Almost makes one yearn for the old days when teams just listed local players.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Jan 25, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Think of what our D would look like…Niedermayer, Seabrook……..

by Sean Zandberg on Jan 25, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno how we do it, but we always seem to come off like a 12 year old girl against the hawks…hair pulling, take downs… of course the Canucks never punch their goalie in the face or throw blindside elbows to the head, but still…we need to have our cooke-isms go against someone else for once.

by GAHHHHH! on Jan 25, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to see a 12 year old girl taking down Andrew Ladd, I believe it would have to involve many, many knees to the family jewels. Could be a good and entertaining youtube video.

Otherwise I think ending a fight to protect yourself is entirely ****ing reasonable, and complaints to the contrary are stupid. That being said, if you do protect yourself in that manner, don’ go chirping about the fight afterward, that’s just bad form. Additionally when you’re the team’s second line center and your replacement needs a Whopper to keep going you should probably reconsider dropping the gloves.

by rsm on Jan 25, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I was worried when I saw Kesler fight. He’s a tough dude, but I didn’t want to see a Hansen or Bolduc indecent where the player is playing some of his best hockey and then gets injured in a fight and is out of the lineup. It would be even worse to lose your 2nd line centre than either of two aforementioned Canucks.

by SteveNux on Jan 25, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not understanding what the problem is with the takedown. Happens quite a bit, so what?

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Jan 25, 2010 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

It is somewhat dangerous to the person being taken down. Head hits the ice etc. Also skates leaving the ice are also a major risk factor to bystanders. I understand that part of the reaction, there have been cases were the takedown causes significant injuries, even just a bad fall can break a wrist or arm.

by rsm on Jan 25, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s ways of countering a move like that.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Jan 25, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yepp, there is, I was just pointing out the general impressions that I have of the reasons some people give.

I think a fairly controlled takedown like Kesler’s is pretty safe.

The other reason people reacted to Kesler’s takedown was that it was ‘cowardly’ because he should have stood up and taken more of a pounding after the first hit…

by rsm on Jan 25, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Every hockey player worth their salt knows that if you get rocked by an early blow you grab the pants and take the guy down. That’s been happening since the early days of ice hockey.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Better to die trying to live than live trying not to die."

by Section 312 on Jan 25, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

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