Cory Schneider's 2008-09 NHL Performance

by Sean Zandberg on Aug 27, 2009 9:03 PM PDT in Statistics Comment 14 comments

Not much good has been said about Schneider's performance when he was called upon to play for the Canucks last season. He finished with a 2-4-1 record, a 3.38 GAA and a .877 save percentage. Check out his game-by-game stats from ESPN:

But let's take a bit of a closer look at those games:

Each link goes to the game's video highlights.

November 29, 2008. 3-1 loss to Calgary.

How many 2-on 1's did the Canucks give up there? Cory looked a bit weak on the Tyler Moss goal, but the others he had no chance on.

December 1, 2008. 3-2 loss to Columbus.

-Fredrick Modin goal. Powerplay, nice setup from Nash.

-Garth Murray goal. Schneider trips over his own feet on this play.

-Kristian Huselius goal. Another nice setup by Nash. No chance for Schneider here.

12 minutes played but no goals allowed against in a 6-5 loss to Detroit on December 4.

December 5. 2-1 win over the Wild. Schneider has a great game. Not much chance on the Mikko Koivu goal as he was interfered with and screened.

December 7. 5-4 loss to Colorado in the shootout. The Avalanche were tipping the puck in off Ryan Smyth and Canucks defenders' stick, but that weak Tjarnqvist goal late in the 3rd to tie it up for the Avs was just that...weak. Then it's Marek Svatos in a shootout. Yeah...good luck.

December 14. 5-3 win over Florida. Trouble for Schneider behind his net as he coughs it up on the Frolik goal to make it 5-3, but otherwise Schneider looked great here. Not much chance on the other 2 Panthers goals.

December 23. 5-0 loss to the Sharks on Hockey Night in Canada. The Sharks were picking corners in this one, and the Canucks as a team really shit the bed. Schneider was pulled early in the 2nd period after the 5th goal (on 15 shots.) Merry effing Christmas! Sanford was stellar replacing Schneider.

December 30. 3-2 loss to Philadelphia. I can't remember why AV replaced Curtis Sanford after the first period, but it was wise of him. Schneider only let in 1 goal off a bing-bing play and then shut the door, amazingly after that. The Canucks couldn't score the goals to come back though. Happy effing New Years!

Schneider loves to go down into that butterfly position, sometimes too early. Sometimes he overplays the slide across. But there is no doubt that he is a quick goalie in every form of the word. He doesn't give up on plays. His record for last season doesn't do him much justice, as the stinker by the team against the Sharks really damaged his stats. If you erase the Sharks game and the Wings game where he only played 12:00, Schneider had a 2.16 GAA and a .895 save percentage. If I add the 12:00 played against Detroit his numbers get even better.

Just something to think about.

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Small sample size, but definitely something to think about, yes.

by kentcheesehead on Aug 27, 2009 9:19 PM PDT reply actions

What do you mean by small sample size? Not enough games played? Not enough stats?

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 27, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

I get the same feeling, just because he has 8 games and only 5 of them were starts. Another half season of the AHL, and some real playing time if the Canucks lock up a playoff spot would be a good move.

by WebBard on Aug 28, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions

12 minutes played but no goals allowed against in a 6-5 loss to Detroit on December 4.

So, how’d he pick up the loss? The goalie who lets in the deciding goal gets the loss, so…? Shootout or what? I could look, but I’m too lazy. 8)

by Thursday on Aug 27, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions

That’s a good question.

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 27, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Actually, his 2-4-1 record suggests 7 games played. The Detroit game didn’t count as 1 I don’t think, as ESPN lists 8.

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 27, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Inconsistency is the hallmark of an NHL newbie. Hopefully he learned from those games and will be better now as a result. Some more NHL experience this year will help too.

by casual on Aug 27, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions

So … if he did get a good number of early season games this year, think his play would raise or lower his trade value?

by casual on Aug 27, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions

That’s kind of the subliminal message I was portraying. I am making the point that he had a great season in the AHL and the team sucked hiney in front of him in the NHL level.

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 27, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Schneider’s stats in the NHL are very inconsistent … well, at least they appear that way. But what if we took a random 12 game sampling from other NHL goaltenders, good ones. Would the established guys’ numbers show a more consistent game-to-game save percentage, for example, or is Schneider actually pretty representative of normal statistical clustering for the position?

Oh, and petty bugaboo: save percentage is the worst stat in all of sports, where .950 is twice as good as .900. So, quick, off the top of your head, how does .887 compare with .910? See the prob? Why can’t they just publish SPG (shots per goal) instead. Not only would it be more understandable for the fans – a linear scale instead of a non-linear one – but we could all relate to it during a game as the shot totals pile up.

Hey NHL, make this change please!

by casual on Aug 28, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions

this is interesting to see, because this shows how, in that dark period, the other canucks needed to realize how they couldn’t always depend on the goaltender, and that they need to help with the defense as well.

GO CANUCKS GO!

by missy on Aug 27, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions

and they didn’t help. It felt like a general feeling of “oh my god Luongo’s not in net LET’S PANIC!”

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 27, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Cory Schneider

He gave up a bunch of glove hand goals (i also was at the Colorado game in Denver) and it was frustrating to watch. I like how he’s doing in Manitoba, but i hope he learned that once a weakness gets pointed out, the NHL is a lot more likely to make him pay.

Also, the Sharks game was a mid-week game on TSN. I got my picture taken with Ray Ferraro to prove it. This may be my American Ignorance showing, but i don’t think TSN’s midweek game(s) are referred to as “Hockey Night in Canada”

by CanuckFaninCalifornia on Aug 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions