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Gare Joyce on Schroeder at #22

This via the convoluted route of Mudcrutch and The Hockey Symposium.  This is a quote from Gare Joyce on the HF boards commenting on why Schroeder dropped to #22 in the draft.  The context and the post.

Gare Joyce responding to another poster:

Asked what his weaknesses were, he said he didn't have any. Said he couldn't really think of anything he needed to work on. Straight-faced.
Asked who was going to be on his line at UMinn next season, he said that he had already told the coach who he'd play with.
He was critical of team-mates and coaches and blamed the U.S.'s failure to win at the under-20s on everyone else except himself.
Those are just a few examples. I could go on but won't. If you don't get the idea, then you never will.

 

If this is accurate, and Mr. Joyce has an excellent rep, it doesn't invalidate Gillis' choice at #22, but should raise some flags with respect to our expectations.  It also places his drop out of the top 10 or 15 in a very clear perspective.

 

HT: Mc79hockey, The Hockey Symposium

Edit: Hate to do this to a Fan Post, but Bobby Canuck posted a quote from Schroeder's coach today:

"I am shocked to hear these rumors about Jordan. He is a great young man who always put his team first. He played with Ryan Stoa last year and they had great chemistry and at the end of the year meeting I asked Jordan who he would like to play with next year. I ask a lot of our returning players this question to see who they think they might want as line-mates. Jordan answered my question and was open to many options next year. Jordan does not have an ego and is a joy to coach. I think he will be a leader on our team next year. He works hard and is driven to be an elite player. Vancouver drafted a winner in him."

So keep an open mind to this conversation. BobbyCanuck, if you have a link to this please post it in the comments section.

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small man syndrome, anyone?

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Jul 5, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I was just thinking that…

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 5, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doubt that, and on the evidence would never suggest something like that.

by rsm on Jul 5, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

evidence being what? a young hot head is pretty standard stuff

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 6, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yepp, young hothead is standard, even expected. ‘Small man’ syndrome not so much, negatively implying an entire range of issues that go well beyond ‘hothead’ and ‘gives bad interview’.

by rsm on Jul 6, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phil Kessel had a similar draft interview and certainly Bure or Pronger
could have come off as young pricks back in the day.

A great quote from Pronger’s salad days with the Blues:
Interviewer: Why weren’t you succesful in Hartford?
Pronger: I was drunk a lot. (smiles)

ClapClapClap

by Sneps-ish on Jul 5, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Why do I get the impression that Pronger isn’t exactly the brightest bulb on the Christman tree?

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Jul 5, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Why do all these single-mom’s kids in Hartford, St.Louis, Edmonton and Anaheim have buck teeth,
big-ass heads and a fondness for throwing elbows?

Chris, if you’re reading this, I kid.
ps-Chris, I met your old neighbour, he thinks your an asshole. Just sayin’.

by Sneps-ish on Jul 5, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well Gillis and team is proud of their supposed leadership test they employ on everyone. How’d this kid get around that? Just lie his way through it? Which, if so, he should be on wall street.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 5, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

No, no, no, no.
Schroeder leaned forward during the interview, beckoned Gillis closer and whispered the following:
“I’ve got one word for you……..Oberg!”

The rest is history.

by Sneps-ish on Jul 5, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, this is a weird story. I watched his draft interview, and it screamed “selfishness and entitlement” to me. I wondered after why I felt like that after literally watchin Schroeder speak for the first time.
Maybe first impressions are right after all. Sounds like a spoiled American, hopefully he turns out to be a keeper, and not a headache.

by Nuckels on Jul 5, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

i thought the rumor was

that he was dumb as a sack of hammer handles, but given that he graduated high school early either i’m retarded or someone else is. for what it’s worth this is preferable to pure stupidity. a veteran team can beat the smug out of a kid and turn him into a good citizen, you can’t teach your way out of teh dumb.

also, here’s another article on schroeder’s high self worth. hey kid, i don’t mind a little napoleonic complex if that gets you where you need to be but don’t be a dick about it.

by bitterguy on Jul 5, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions  

ok, found that article again

it was the draft recap on puck daddy. the quote:

Vancouver Canucks: Winners. I can’t believe Jordan Schroeder fell to them, but I also can’t believe what a rockhead he is (apparently he tested very low at the combine as far as noggin-smarts, which contributed to his precipitous drop).

and then has the video of jordan having a tough time figuring out how to put on his jersey. no idea where the rockhead rumor started but it could just as easily be referring to his ego as well.

by bitterguy on Jul 5, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should ink Bert to a two year deal. Get these idiots on one line together and stand the hell out of their way!

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 5, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that link. The thing is: I liked that impression of Schroeder. He’s confident but isn’t letting it get to his head.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 5, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you. It’s good to see more info collected in one spot, it’s also good to see something not coming from the ‘justifying why we didn’t pick him at #X camp’.

by rsm on Jul 6, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thus, the truth lies somewhere in between. If the kid proves his naysayers wrong, so much the better.

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Jul 6, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

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