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Markus Naslund Interview With The Province

Q: How do you look back on your time in Vancouver?

A: There were a lot of positives. The thing that bugs me is that those few years that we had teams that were good enough to win and for one reason or another we didn’t. That’s the thing that frustrates me. But I had a great time there. We went back (to Vancouver) for three or four days after our season was over for the kids to say goodbye to their friends. It’s definitely a special place for me and my family.

Quite a lengthy interview with Naslund. He talks about the scrutiny while being the Canucks' captain, his future plans, his time with the Rangers, and more. Check it out.

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Really hope they retire his number next season. He took way to much crap in the last few years as a canuck.

by Reeferbot on Jul 26, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I am leaning towards hoping they don’t.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Third in games played, first in goals, third in assists, first in points, twelve seasons. I don’t see any reason why Naslund’s number wouldn’t be retired. I respect your personal opinion regarding what makes a hockey player a great one, but I think you’re off the mark in this case.

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Jul 26, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

…and no playoff success beyond round 2. This also points out how pathetic the organization has been in the past. Naslund is a legend in Sweden, but he shouldn’t be here.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Linden had one bout past the second round, so what? Retiring numbers, especially for Vancouver in coming years, has nothing to do with playoff success. It should be about his (positive) impact on the franchise. Naslund’s place in the franchise records is strong and he was the face of the team for a good four or five seasons. He was active in community outreach, same as Linden. He’s worth remembering, he’s worth honoring and he’s worth the retirement.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s worth remembering and honoring, but not retiring. Didn’t get past the second round, Linden did ONCE, yes, so at the same time why does community outreach mean anything then. Many Canucks do that.
If you think Naslund played with heart and intensity then I’m not sure which one you were watching. He had it at times…but that is about it. We’ll disagree on this one.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a list here of NHL players who have had their jersey number’s retired and Naslund doesn’t rank amongst the vast majority of them in terms of success (my view of success.) A comparable retiring would be Thomas Steen of the Jets.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

My assumption is overall impact to the team and the franchise, by extension, has community outreach that’s why I bring it up. Naslund did perform as captain pretty damn well both on and off the ice. Couple in franchise records and he at least should be in consideration of the jersey retirement.

Your main criticism seems to be he played soft and didn’t have post season success. The latter point isn’t really fair (again, especially in comparison with Linden) so we’re back at the first point and that, to me, is subjective and shouldn’t negate his actual contributions. I don’t care if a guy is hard nosed or a finesse, “softer” player: if he did his job in an exemplary matter, if he made those around him better (debatable with Naslund in later years) and if he made the team better and did all three consistently it should at least be talked about.

I don’t think something as debatable as “heart and intensity” should be a deciding factor.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 26, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet so many times “heart and intensity” is a deciding factor, especially if you go down that Wiki list.
Hey I could be wrong in my opinion. I hear what you’re saying about the records and contributions. I just really lost any love for the guy after he dropped off after Bertuzzi left. It will always stain him in my mind. To me he has nothing on Linden and Smyl, 2 guys who you’d have to force at gunpoint to leave the organization.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think a good reason for his dropping off after Bert left was diminishing skills. It was around that time that I picked up on what appeared to be a loss of reflexes, causing Naslund to appear slow. It was simply a case of Father Time focusing on the guy.

by Bobby Canuck on Jul 26, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

What? Naslund was 31 when Bertuzzi took out Moore.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just for reading purposes this is a piece of an interview ESPN had with Naslund a few years back:

Q: How is your approach as a captain similar to Mario’s and Mark’s?

A: You try to pick up pieces from all the people you look up to during your career. Clearly, I have a different leadership style to those guys, I’m not nearly the leader they were. But the thing I want for this group in Vancouver is for guys to feel comfortable and knowing they can come to me if they need to and not feel intimidated.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

They should do in Vancouver what they do in Toronto: Honor players in the rafters but not retire their jersey.
Look at Ohlund: Canucks’ records for points and goals as a d-man. He played with more guts than Naslund did.

by Sean Zandberg on Jul 26, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree. Honoring a la Toronto, or even better something like the ‘testimonial’ matches they have in the EPL for retired players who were significant to the team. Either of these would allow the organization and fans to show their respect and appreciation for a player without having to overuse the whole number retirement/HOF route. This would also allow you to save retiring the number for your ‘legends’ and ‘greats’. I.e. The players who are shoe-ins for the retirement, and not the ones that we all need to sit around in our pints debating the pros and cons of.

Markus Naslund was a very, very good player who was for several years the best player on a Canucks team that played wonderful hockey but achieved little. There were some epic storylines and series during his tenure, but he wasn’t consistently great and certainly not a legend.
I owe my Vancouver fandom to him and the rest of the WCE, but my rose colored lenses don’t quite let me drop him into the retirement category. In hindsight, I think, as I’ve mentioned before, the Moore incident is a major factor in this, from both a controversy aspect and that post-Moore his game was never the same. One or two more seasons of his pre-Moore play on a line with the Sedins and we may not have been having this discussion.

This kind of thinking should apply to the HOF in my opinion as well. It needs to be somewhat exclusive to have any value. When there is controversy, it is better that the player be left out than be put in, because the point is to showcase the ‘greats’ and ‘legends’ and those who truly contributed something special to the game. A move to a system of honoring or testimonials would let Vancouver show their appreciation to Bure as well, and give him the kind of send off he deserved for what he gave the city during his time here. I never saw him play, but watching his highlights or play on youtube or on old tapes… it is special, just much, much to short.

by rsm on Jul 26, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another in the "no" camp

Sorry, I just don’t think he inspired the fans the same way Linden or Smyl did. Interestingly, for those folks who think points are what matters, I think he was coming into his own as a captain in the last two playoff years: I saw more heart and drive from him then than at any other time he wore the “C”, even if he didn’t produce like he used to.

by Thursday on Jul 26, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Re-retire 11

I’m still waiting for the Canucks to take 11 back out of circulation. It was an affront to the Maki family when it was given to Messier.

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Jul 26, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions  

good point

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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 27, 2009 4:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

ya i take back my earlier comment put #11 up there and let us all forget about the messier debacle

by Reeferbot on Aug 2, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice interview, thanks for sharing it

by jozsef on Jul 27, 2009 1:00 AM PDT reply actions  

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