July 1 Liveblog: "At My Signal, Unleash Hell"
by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 4:50 PM PDT
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10:28 PM ET - And thus ends the Havlat flirtation for Vancouver. Via TSN, he's likely heading to the Wild (who have traded one oft-injured winger for another).
9:10 PM ET - Madden lands in Chicago (do they have a cap or are they an exception to the rule?). Chril Neil sticks around in Ottawa on a four year deal.
8:38 PM ET - Labarbera is off to the desert on a two year deal with Phoenix. Gionta inks a five year deal with the Habs (Gainey has certainly picked it up this evening)
8:22 PM ET - There goes Gaborik. Via TSN, five years at $5.75 7.5 million a year. Jeeeeeesus...
7:50 PM ET - Some more trickling in. Via TSN, Mathieu Garon joins Columbus on a two year deal and Jason Strudwick re-signs with the Oil. If you check out Lowetide, you'll see how close Edmonton is to the cap, so they can't be done yet.
6:26 PM ET - Via TSN, Pahlsson signs in Columbus for three years $2.65 per. Damn, that's a great price for a good player. Sigh.
6:16 PM ET - Via the TSN Trade Tracker, Steve Sullivan sicks around Nashville on a two year deal.
6:12 PM ET - A few more over the past hour, including some you can scratch off the wishful thinking list: via TSN, Sharks sign Kent Huskins to a two year deal, the Avs add David Koci to a one year deal, Mike Cammalleri to Montreal for five years and $30 million bucks, Minnesota signs Greg Zanon to a three year deal, Vern Fiddler signs in Phoenix for a year and Mike Komisarek to the Leafs in a five year deal.
4:48 PM ET - Via TSN, Bob McKenzie says that Montreal has signed Hal Gill for two years, Pittsburgh inks Mike Rupp for two years and the Flyers sign Ian Laperriere for three years.
4:39 PM ET - Via TSN, Scott Clemmensen signs with Florida. Three years & $3.6 million.
4:05 PM ET - Bob McKenzie just said that Erik Cole is close to a two-year deal with the Hurricanes and that Nikolai Khabibulin has an agreement with the Edmonton Oilers.
3:55 PM ET - Gillis and Luongo are still negotiating so don't expect the extension to be announced today (via TSN).
3:51 PM ET - Via Dreger at TSN, the Boston Globe is reporting Spacek to Mtl. for 3 years, $11.5 million.
3:41 PM ET - Via Sportsnet, Brian Boucher returns to Philly on a two year deal.
3:39 PM ET - Joel Ward resigns in Nashville and old friend Krajicek resigns in Tampa Bay (who's defense I am basically just jealous of at this point...and it has nothing to do with Ohlund).
3:12 PM ET - Here come the experiment players for the Canucks: they've signed defensemen Aaron Rome to a one year deal. His stats are below, don't everyone freak out all at once:
3:08 PM ET - Via TSN, Niedermeyer stays in Anaheim for a year with a $6 million deal.
2:58 PM ET - TSN is updating the Canucks again. Highlights:
- Mats Sundin time is over unless he takes a paycut (yippee!)
- Kicking the tires on Niedermeyer still
- Luongo extension is expected soon, 40 million over 5 years are the numbers
- Schneider in play once Luongo re-ups
- Hansen is expected to be moved
2:52 PM ET - Andy Strickland is reporting the Capitals have signed Mike Knuble to a 2 yr. deal worth $2.8 per. Nuts I always liked Knuble but he's an American guy who I don't think has ever played outside of the Eastern or Central time zones. Good upgrade for Feds going to Russia too.
2:47 PM ET - NYRNation is saying Donald Brashear is a Ranger. Why must the Rags continue to ruin my opinion of ex-Canucks? Why oh why??
2:36 PM ET - Via Mirtle, the Hawks also signed Tomas Kopecky away from Detroit.
2:30 PM ET - Dwayne Roloson to the Isle for two years. Steve Montador to the Sabres for two years.
2:16 PM ET - Via The Star, Kubina has been traded to Atlanta.
2:11 PM ET - Via TSN Live, Ty Conklin to the Blues.
2:10 PM ET - Hossa to the Wings is done. That's a beast of a contract. Helping that is the Hawks lose Matt Walker who signs with Ohlund down in Tampa. The Lightning are developing a nice defensive core (I'm jealous).
1:55 PM ET - Via the Denver Post, Avs ink Craig Anderson to a two year deal. So it's Anderson and Budaj for the Mile Highers.
1:47 PM ET - Botchford from the Province thinks Niedermayer and Gaborik get calls from Gillis today.
Also, Hossa to Chicago sounds like a done deal per TSN Live.
1:44 PM ET - Sounds like Kovalev signed a two year deal with Montreal (looking for source) and Booth re-ups in Florida for six years.
1:17 PM ET - Colton Orr to the Leafs for four years.
1:15 PM ET - The Sedins speak (Daniel and Henrik) about the deal.
1:05 PM ET - TSN is examining the Vancouver situation now. Highlights include
- 10.8 million in cap left
- No way on Gaborik with remaining cap space
- Cammalleri slim but possible
- Badly need LWers and another top six forward
- Believes an extension for Luongo is forthcoming
- Not sure how they're going to address the blueline/Ohlund leaving
- No one knows what to do with Schneider if Luongo re-ups, re: move him now or wait another year
12:56 PM ET - The release from Vancouver concerning the Sedins signing:
"Daniel and Henrik Sedin are this club’s offensive leaders and players we want to build around," said Mike Gillis. "Their level of performance in every area of the game is exceptional; both Daniel and Henrik are committed to winning and we want them to succeed as Vancouver Canucks."
12:46 PM ET - Via TSN, Radek Dvorak re-ups with the Panthers and the Hawks closing in on Hossa still.
12:32 PM ET - Dreger is reporting that Niedermayer is entertaining offers.
12:29 PM ET - Chatter is Hossa is aiming for the Hawks. Yeesh, this guy isn't going to be liked anywhere he goes.
12:18 PM ET - @Kevin Allen is reporting Ohlund has signed with Tampa. Not terms yet. 7 years, 3.75 million. According to Darren Dreger, Ohlund will take in $22.5 of the $24.5 in the first 5 years.
12:08 PM ET - @Russostrib is suggesting that Havlat and Fedotenko are going to test the market.
12:03 PM ET - Ding ding ding...gentleman, grab your wallets.
11:30 AM ET - Shorter term for a bit more money. Lots to like about the Sedin signing, point a game producers locked up through their prime. If they get Luongo signed to an extension, it'll be a lot easier to sell this team to mid-ranged UFA's for the rest of the summer (dreams of Eric Cole continued unabated). Well done Gillis.
And, finally, the updated roster looks a bit easier on the eyes:
11:16 AM ET - Get your drink on early folks: The Sedins have resigned, five-year contacts, averaging $6.1 million a season. Golf clap! (Now Gillis go get them some help!)
11:08 AM ET - Happy birthday Pamela Anderson, you 42 year old maniac. In hockey news, nothing new on the Sedins front and under one hour to go. Yawn.
10:41 AM ET - I've posted the Canucks roster chart below (updated roster is above) in case you need to keep score. There are a hell of a lot of holes, even more if the Sedins leave.
10:03 AM ET - Team1040 reports nothing new on the Sedin front with two hours to go.
9:35 AM ET - Via the Daily Herald, the Hawks trying to move Huet?
9:33 PM ET - Via Kukla, at least the Oilers are still struggling.
9:10 AM ET - For fun, via the NY Post, let's all delight in the collective joy that can only come from a big, fat NY Rangers FAIL.
8:58 AM ET - Opps, one more bit of Canuck news via the White Towel: Davison is joining Pyatt on the UFA line.
8:55 AM ET - Just to catch you up on the latest, Johnny Oduya resigns with New Jersey, Rob Blake returns to San Jose, Bill Guerin is sticking around Pittsburgh, Mighty Mike Weaver and Brad Winchester re-up with St. Louis, Peter Budaj (snicker) returns to Colorado and Erik Christensen resigned with Anaheim this morning.
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...and the big day finally arrives. First off, a happy Canada day to all my friends up north. Enjoy plenty of booze and sun for those of us who can't spend their average Wednesday doing such.
In a few hours, the hell will be unleashed as the UFA will kick into action. If last night's whirlwind of Sedin rumors, failed Heatley-to-Edmonton signings and Boumeester moving into the neighborhood is any indication, it should be a good one.
A final farewell to one Mattias Ohlund. the Canucks' all-time leading goal-scorer among defencemen and all around stalwart warrior for eleven years. Enjoy your next stop (please don't stick around the Northwest) and we'll enjoy watching you from afar.
And the Sedins? About three hours to go and nothing confirmed. Nervous yet?
I'll post what I can find, but if you see anything, do your thing in the comments.
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All I know is that klubbdirektör is a way cooler name for MG’s job than general manager. So I will from now on refer to him as such. And if klubbdirektör somehow lets the twins slip, he’d better have an amazing plan 2, because that looks to be a disaster.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe his back up plan is an outright kidnap/ransom combo. The classics never die.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over at Matchsticks and Gasoline the Sutter mancrush continues unabated.
by NuckFan on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sutter did a good job, their defense is sick. Here’s hoping they get another rash of injuries (or, better still, re-sign Bertuzzi)
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m guessing that if ever there is a ’Nucks Misconduct meet and greet, I should leave my Bertuzzi shirt at home.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hehehe
There is a Canucks Messier jersey hanging in a bar in Smithers. Has been there for years. It’s maddening. Everytime I go in there, I want to rip it down and burn it.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On to Smithers for the exorcism. The memory of Messier must be expunged.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have one, it’s all good. We had him when he was relevant.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sutter has made some brutal signings. J-Bo is a good one, Reghyr is awesome, Phaneuf is currently one of the worst deals in the league. If Dion takes another step back this year, Sutter will have Kipper and Dion locked up with no way out.
Sutter is a smug, crappy GM with the stats to prove it.
by Nuckels on Jul 1, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, updated the post above. Cutting it a bit close lads!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 years, 6.1 million per
That’s about right. Not an overpay, not a “hometown discount”.
Now, Mike Cammalari, please.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s a much better deal.
huge relief.
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUCK YEAH!!! Woooo!!!
Hey that Swde paper wasn’t lying to me last night.
Who cares? We got the Swedes back!
Unfortunately it comes at a higher price ($600,000 more cap hit on each b/c Gillis has commitment issues
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't you be drinking?
Dammit man, you’re on holiday fer chrissakes! Pour that booze!
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did last night…with my pops. Good times!
I’m not missing this shit. Keep up the great work, Yankee!
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
happy Canada Day!
Now this is a good deal. After a long drama they proved to be real Canucks. The next pieces are waiting to fall in place, wait for the Luongo’s news, Wellwood and so on
by duru2000 on Jul 1, 2009 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, duru. I think Luongo is going to wait. Wellwood…hopefully no one throws $2 million his way in half an hour or he walks.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Na, Luongo’s extension is next and that allows Schneider to be moved for another piece. Smaller signings to round out the defense and we have our team. ALL before the UFA season began….
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way :) We need a bigger signing. Sundin!!!! I kid.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts of Chicago burning us on the blueline is etched in my mind. Time to get some defense in there and reshape that blueline in the post Ohlund era.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need another top 6 forward though..unless you think Bernier goes there.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true, but who? especially after Lui inks an extension they’ll be under 10 million in cap space (if not already). Right up against it.
Here’s a concept….move Salo! A guy can dream…
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking more of a 1-year deal for that forward, or a longer deal with a NTC. Then Gillis can move some crap next summer after Lou’s possible extension.
The Canucks are not any better right now. We have not replaced Ohlund or Sundin.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, if only the Oilers blow their load on Heatley
and trade their future for him, it will be a good day!
So when does Luuuuuuu sign his extension? If Gilles makes this happen today, it truly will be a Happy Canada Day.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t think he’s going to sign one until next summer. I hope to hell that I’m wrong just so we get the drama over with.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
from friedmanhnic on twitter: Smart decision by the Sedins. They seemed very happy there. Best advice I’ve ever received —from Bob McCown: “Don’t (bleep) with happy.”
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, let’s make predictions. I say we re-sign Wellwood and add a cheap d-man. Then Gillis waits for Sundin again…
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wellwood is returning to Van, I'm sure of it.
We should get Sundin, then Sakic and urge Smyl out of retirement.
We can call them the ‘Old S’ line.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha! Sharp this morning, are we?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh noooo,
Kyle was reinvented here and got all the support so if he has character will be back. No more grandpa though, get Calamari or whatever his name is and 2 defensmen, maybe the fin Ossi can get a real chance this year
by duru2000 on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pudge was qualified yesterday. Me thinks he’ll be back.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so too.
It’s a good fit for him.
Hey, does anyone thinks it’s worth it to give Chelios a call? 6th d-man, anyone?
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. old. men. on. the. blueline.
puh-puh-pleeeeease
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's 47 and built like a god and has a regimented work-out and...
/end Pierre Mcguire Lovefest
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s the shit. You can’t throw away your pet project that panned out in the end.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Vaananen would be great at #6 spot.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you come around to Ossi!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know I love my Ossi. You know it.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NW Division
With a regime change in Minny, a lack of any sort of direction in Colorado and the unwillingness of any talented forward in the NHL to report to Stab-monton, the NW division looks like Flames vs. ’Nucks… a rivalry that has been quite entertaining since their 2004 classic first round series.
Both teams have made huge stride in the last 24 hours (CGY: J-Bouw, VAN: Twins) in distancing themselves from the pack.
"It's a great day for hockey" - BBJ
by jealous broadcaster on Jul 1, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t count out the Wild and Oilers, IMO.
THe Canucks are NOT better now. Only Calgary is. Gillis has work to do starting immediately.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vancouver may not be better, but we’re still sitting better than the teams he talked about. If Edmonton gets Heatley and maybe a better goalie, they’ll bump up. Ditto the Wild who need to make a splash. Still lots of summer ahead.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, exactly. Lots of summer. But with the Oilers missing out on Heatley they have to make a splash today. I think they’ll get Roloson back and then another big money forward. The Wild need to replace Gabby and have plenty of money in the bank. They have to be super-pro active today.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oilers...
Now officially need a starting goalie. That’s quite a hole to fill, though lots of options are available.
"It's a great day for hockey" - BBJ
by jealous broadcaster on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Khabibulin re-sign in Chicago? How about Huet? Biron?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oilers need anything but Heatly…. we would love for them to get him and blow their blueline and forward depth on him.
by rsm on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about O’Brien? Those negotiations are going right now I bet. Or he gets flogged
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade Schneider, please.
His value is high and we could get something good to round out our D
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no way! Not until Lou inks for 5 or more years.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
M'eh!
LaBarbara (while not upper tier) is ready to start.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Barbie is done and Schneider backs Lou this year. But not sure. He’ll need to play 20 games here or there is no point
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oilers should snag Barbie
and piss on Rolosen :-)
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a believer in Roli yet, huh?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at Schneider’s expense….not yet.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Squeeeeee!
The woman on the right sums up my feelings quite well. Heh!
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Team 1040 is talking about the Flames D
Regher
J-Bo
Phaneuf
Sarich
Giordano
Aucoin
Warrener
Eriksson
Wow, talk about depth.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance in hell aucoin stays. But their top three is going to be the envy of most teams. At least on paper, we’ll see how it works on the ice.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this the end of the line for Aucoin?
I wonder where else he’d end up
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking that about Aucoin. He needs to take a cut. He apparently wants to stay in Cgy too yet.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aucoin, Warrener and Eriksson are al UFA’s aren’t they? They all walk today.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I put ‘em in there in the end just for kicks. Even if one of those re-signs, Calgary’s D is damned good.
J-Bo, Phaneuf, and Regehr could all be on Canada 2010!
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But with all that money tied up, they should be lacking up front. Oh, and piss on Bouwmeester. Edler will get more points than him this year.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Help for Kipper!
The strengthened Back end will help cut down Kipper’s workload (as will Keenan’s departure). He’s still the key to the Flames IMO.
"It's a great day for hockey" - BBJ
by jealous broadcaster on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely. Yeah, that D has to tighten up for Kipper’s groin does..
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kipper is a goalie on the decline
His stats will be worse this year than last (and they have gotten steadily worse every years since they went to the finals).
He’s an albatross around the neck of the organization!
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kippers numbers have struggled just as the d-core has become more susceptible to breakdowns. The teams has gone mental for offense over the past few years. He has struggled recently, but the quality of shots and number of shots allowed haven’t helped.
"It's a great day for hockey" - BBJ
by jealous broadcaster on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno about “depth”. i think that’s incredibly top-heavy.
by passive_voice on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tsn stream
Any Americans wishing to watch Pierre Maguire stand awkwardly close to Bob McKenzie and others can catch an online stream here:
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
right on, thanks for that
I love Maquire, even if he is quirky as hell
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohlund To Tampa
So sayeth the Twitter machine. Don’t see it confirmed yet anywhere.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
7 years, 3.75 million a year. That’s way too long, but I guess he’ll help Hedman make his way in.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
heard that on team1040 also
but no confirmation. They are saying that Ohlund’s footspeed (or lack thereof) won’t help the Lightning any, but his experience and leadership could be a definite plus. That Hedman kid could probably benefit.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like it’s goodbye ohlie.
humming giraffe must be heartbroken.
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alix is now the newest Lightning fan! haha Poor girl.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder what the dollar structure looks like on that contract. At least Ohlund signed in a different conference and about as far away from Van as he could get (in North America)!
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How were they able to sign him just 20 min after they were legally allowed to even talk to him?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they probably arranged a meeting right away and had an offer already lined up.
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Jul 1, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or
they don’t play by the rules and everyone understands it and does it too :-)
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, there was “tampering” there. heheh
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh boooo, boooooooo
I see what you did there.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think teams just fax out offer sheets to every player they like at exactly 12 est?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And this was the best Ohli saw?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in fifteen minutes LOL
Yeah, it’s not reasonable to think he was waiting by the phone and accepted the first deal he saw. There must have been some sort of agreement reached, probably they started talking during the season. Remember that Ohlund stated he was testing the free agent market a long time ago.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ohlund knew where he wanted to go. Tampa has a decent crop of kids and it’ll be entirely different from being in Vancouver (both the city and the system). And not a chance in holy hell Gillis would have offered him a similar deal. Good for everyone.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A standing ovation when he returns to Vancouver
Can someone give me an idea of where we are at cap-wise (based on the YC’s rink above)? I could do the work and figure it out but does anyone have that on hand?
It seems to me we are in good shape. Not running right up to the cap with players left to sign. There is still wiggle room here.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s also possible that Gillis gave teams permission to talk to Ohli early out of respect to him. But I’m not sure why he would do that.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh no, Hossa may go to Chicago…DD on Twitter. The real DDreger.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahahaha. If Hossa goes Chicago, then Chicago has to lose to either Detroit or Pitts in the playoffs next year. It also means that “Jesus fucking Havlat” is available. No way they can afford their lineup with both. Why would they put their neck out for Hossa over Havlat?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At least Hossa stays healthy. Havlat gets a new deal and will go on the IR, mark my words.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hossa is basically the same as Havlet minus the injuries. If they sign him and release Havlat they are going to be less fun to meet up with in the playoffs next year.
Bring me Stanley. Alive if possible, dead... just as good.
by King Luongshanks on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else enjoy that Hossa will now be hated in both Detroit and Pittsburgh? Christ this guy’s gotta be one of the most hated dudes in the league at this rate.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping we could take advantage of that and sign him. He’d certainly be a better option than Gaborik even though that rumor has be dispelled.
Bring me Stanley. Alive if possible, dead... just as good.
by King Luongshanks on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daniel on team 1040
Ohlund has had a big impact on us, and one of the reasons why we weren’t playing in Sweden. Wish him the best.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So Yankee, Niedermayer is entertaining offers? I’d love to see him leave Anaheim. I’d laugh. Bring him here!
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I repeat: NO. OLD. MEN. ON. THE. BLUELINE.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And had 15 goals, 59 points last year!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PURE GOLD
And put Rob on a line with Kes and Mitre!
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob’s a douche. He’s on our 3rd line or less!
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not with Kesler and Demitra he's not!
That’s 25 goals and 55 points right there! Book it!
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bet you $2000 you’d be wrong :) He’s a handless idiot but a great checker ONLY
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand by my irrational hatred of the old.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he’s only 34. He looks like Gandalf the Grey in the playoffs, but still he is the shit. He’s got super wheels still.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at his price, not at his age. I’m sorry, I can’t get behind that. Your Sundin wet dream has exhausted me of aging all stars looking for a change.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about my wet dreams for aging all-stars looking for a change?
Hop aboard the Nieds wagon, my friend!
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Temujin, the Canucks are sitting at $48 million as per NHL numbers.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t sound right, unless you’re including Welly, who hasn’t signed yet, and all the 2-way contracts.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that has increased is +5 mill for Sedins. But we’re -3.5 for ohlund and -5.3 for Sundin, and -1.7 for pyatt, and don’t forget barbi, SOB, Davison, Welly untill he signs, etc etc. So those all shoot us down more.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
farhan lalji ont tsn is saying nucks have 10.8 mill cap space… that sounds right
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why was there no chance that Ohlund would resign?
All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!
by rollonubears on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He said and acted all along that he wanted a change.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeppers, wanted to test the free agent market
And I don’t begrudge him that at all. Sounds like most Canuck fans are okay with his leaving too.
He leaves as the all-time leading scorer among Canuck D-men.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t miss all those minor penalties he took, but I’ll miss his bone crunching hits.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needed payday. Because of a number of awkward situations – lockout, injury etc. his last contract wasn’t exactly retirement stuff for him. The Canucks couldn’t afford that, everyone ‘knew’ that.
by rsm on Jul 1, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 7 years, Ohlund will be what…41 years old?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in seven years
Ohlund will be living in Sweden playing his second year of rec league hockey.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basically it means Hodgson must make the team.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They can also lose salary too. I know we’re short on defense already but I look at Salo (waiving his NTC) as someone I would like to see moved.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be okay with that too
He’s just so infuriating.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohlund leaves, so Hodgson must make the team. I don’t follow.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I meant with the Canucks being tight against the cap wall, they can’t afford many signings so must fill roster spots with cheap entry level contracts of players who hopefully have impact. Nothing to do with Ohli.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sound like a bit of a crapshoot, but I do see the reasoning behind it.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
earlier they were talking about cap space. 10 mil to sign 7 players.
by CanuckJunkie on Jul 1, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It still sounds so awful to hear the HNC theme play on TSN. So awful.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I see Brian Burke is putting together another dirty team, as per tradition.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Colton Orr to Toronto
Burke’s big splash?
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess nobody likes T.O. this year. Burke will have to buy a big name guy to play there. Over-spend perhaps?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With $10.8 million left in the bank, we still have to re-sign OB and Wellwood. That could be a combined $3 milllon hit. Tack on another $1 million for the 6th d-man and we’re down to $6.8 left, right under the cap. Gillis can’t get a Cammalleri now, unless he signs him for 5 years and the hit goes down. Can’t sign Niedermayer either. No chance.
Like Yankee said earlier, Hodgson has to make the team now. That would make Woody the 2nd line center (which he’s not) or he’s gone.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cammalleri is a slim possibility. If he gave a five year deal to the Sedins, Cammalleri could happen. But then what do you do with the defense?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who the hell cares about defense
at that point? :-)
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he needs to divide the remaining $$$ for both positions. There’s always Saku Koivu…haha (Pukes)
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, no thanks.
Paging Joe Sakic. Joe Sakic to Vancouver, please :)
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a year, why not? I’ll even take care of his yardwork( snowblower, leafblower, etc,) Your hands, Joe, your hands.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kesler could be the 2nd line center if cammy is signed! Welly can stick to line 3. And i’m the one who said ’nucks need Hodgson to make the team, not Yankee. Go Red Sox.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booo Red Sox
Other than that, I agree with you.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Focus, people.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hehehe!
It’s 10:30 on the west coast and I’ve been drinking since 8am. Cut me some slack :-)
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You fiend! You take the day off or what?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hehehe, just kidding actually :)
but yeah, I got the day off, even though there is tons of work to do. Got another damned fire job, this time in Burns Lake. Gonna be working at it all day thursday and probably Friday too. It just never ends.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should see the weather down here. JACKPOT!
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's overcast and looking to rain here
Damn you and your holidays. I’ll bet your having a great time too, ya big jerk.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha happy canada day, eh?
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Jul 2, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t be so fast to assume a raise for SOB and Wellwood. Also, if Niedermayer signs, the team will only need minimum wage players for the rest of the D. (SOB will be traded). Also, Schneider is going to cost the Canucks more cap hit than necessary for a backup, so he’ll likely be traded or kept in the minors, especially if Luongo signs an extension. With $10.8M, it’s still realistic for another big name in the $5-6M range, so the only hope is actually Gaborik if rumours are true that he likes Vancouver as much as Demitra does.
by SJKel on Jul 1, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll go with PAHLSSON AND BEAUCHEMIN RIGHT NOW. Then that’s it.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BOOO TO BEAUCHEMIN
That would be a fail of a signing.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be plum drunk happy with both.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pahlsson
Gotta have that Cup experience.
Niedermayer can’t sign here. There is just not enough cap space
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dregger is saying Hossa to Chicago is a done deal
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They must be cap geniuses over there in the Windy City.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Havlat’s gone for sure then. There’s a lot of cap space there. Plus, the Hawks have to unload one of their goalies yet. They have $13 million tied up there at least.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not just that but don’t they have to sign Keith too? Regardless, clearly they’re gunning for it next year.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a lot of cap space
but also a lot of free agents to be signed this and especially next summer. If Hossa signs, I expect it to be one year and we all know how Detroit did after Hossa signed a one-year deal
by SJKel on Jul 1, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you leave the Wings for the Hawks if both offered a one year deal?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the Hawks must have offered more $$$$
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And really, the Hawks are going to be called contenders now.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes, sounds like a 12 year deal he signed! Five million a pop. Holy hell…
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So other teams are throwing out these long term deals and Gillis won’t. Look at all the money Chicago saves towards the cap there. Jesus! Now if Gillis had gone for the 12 years he would have saved $1.2 million
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope he plays the length of it too. Sheesh, I can’t even stay at a job longer than three years.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll be 42 when that contract expires.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Via Kevin Allen on twitter: With TSN saying Hossa signed with Chicago for 12 years, I have ’Hawks at $34 mill for eight players in 2010-11 with no Kane, Toews, Keith.
An embarrassment of riches but something has to give over there.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya but these teams will be kicking themselves in 5 or 6 years when they’ve got a bunch of cap space tied up in senior citizens. Gillis is thinking about the franchise long-term, you’ve got to respect that.
Bring me Stanley. Alive if possible, dead... just as good.
by King Luongshanks on Jul 1, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda sorta
first of all, i’ll be surprised if we’re not in $65-$70m capland in 5 or 6 years.
more important, we’ve got an owner and the revenues such that we could bury an ugly contract (or two) in the A. if the sedins turned out shit in 7 or 8 years, their $6-$8m combined wouldn’t be that tough a pill to swallow.
i’m happy the sedins are back, but i’m really confused at Gillis’ reasoning.
by passive_voice on Jul 1, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the owner isn't so rich after all
Otherwise he would have allowed a longer term deal at lower average. I remember he had to borrow to buy the team, when he was fighting the legal battle with Gaglardi
by SJKel on Jul 1, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, maybe you are on to something there
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it. If the last decade is any indication, Canucks make a lot more money when they are competitive. Even if he had to borrow money to buy the team, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be willing to borrow more to make the team stay competitive. It’s an investment.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do, but these teams are thinking in the now and can win NOW. We should be the same. How are we going to spank Chicago when they load up like this?
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hossa will make $59.3 mil in the first 8 years and $3.5 over final four says Dreger
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is to say
he’ll retire when he is 37 :-)
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case anyone missed it, Craig Anderson is the new #1 goalie in Colorado.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh, the Avs didn’t want to spend a lot of dough in goal…great! Hope Anderson sucks it.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that means Sakic will sign there again.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Kubina may be going to the Thrashers. Not done yet.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
really upset anderson went to colorado. honestly, he’s IMO the best goalie option on the market, and they got him pretty damn cheaply.
by passive_voice on Jul 1, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll admit I know next to nothing about him
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just be content in the knowledge that he’s gone to a crap team.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s been backing up his fellow all-underrated team member in Vokoun for the past two years, and they killed it. deboer gets a lot of credit for making the team decent this year, but they’d have been less than nowhere without their goalies. like luongo when he was there, vokoun and anderson have seen lots of pucks, and they’ve stopped a tonne of them.
by passive_voice on Jul 1, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t be much worse than Raycroft/Budaj. That screamed disaster from the get go.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roloson an Islander
Bwa ha ha ha! 5 million over two years. Awesome.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
To back up Dipietro? C’MON! That’s sad. Well I guess glass Dipietro needs to play less games.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we sure DiPietro is even playing next year? Or that he’s even good?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should call up out Oiler friends and rub it in
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oilers are in trouble, all from a guy who isn’t even on their team.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the Oilers, but I feel bad for the crap they are goin through in regards to gettin snubbed by players. Edmonton is a great place to raise a family, and the city is gettin trashed.
I do still hate them though.
by Nuckels on Jul 1, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit. Talk about addressing their issues on defence
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that seems like a tonne of money for a 6th guy.
by passive_voice on Jul 1, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Line of the day
from LordBob in the comments over at Lowetide:
Hard to believe that Roloson contract. I mean, the Islanders have such a history of making the right decision on goaltenders, it’s hard to believe they could screw up like that!
(Thank you, Garth Snow, for saving Tambs from himself.)
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TSN is saying that Hossa earns $7.5 mill per year over the first 8 years of his 12 year contract, then $850,000 per year for the final 4 years. So it seems all the teams are in on this loophole in staying under the cap — other than the Canucks.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i’m a little upset with gilly over this
by passive_voice on Jul 1, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the cap hit was the average yearly salary of the contract, not the actual payment per year.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. That’s why it’s a loophole. So you pay them shitloads upfront, and sign them for a zillion years, with very low salaries for the later years (when you know they will retire, because they’re old and there’s no money to pay for, and therefore they’re off your books).
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here I was, wondering what all the bitching was about. I hope Gillis hasn’t let himself get hooped.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, i’m happy. Gillis came through bigtime. By flyin to Sweden and talkin face to face, he showed the league that the Canucks are a class organization which really cares about there employees. This bodes well for other players who want to find a team with a strong commitment to winning.
I’m really starting to like the direction and tradition which we are building on.
Happy Canada days dudes, ain’t it nice to live in the greatest country in the world.
by Nuckels on Jul 1, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Knuble to Washington
That helps the Caps
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know, I always wanted him to be a Canuck too.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would really like Calgary to crumple next year. It would make me so happy. A man can dream.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brashear for 1.4 mill per year?
Am I reading that right?
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No niedermayer. Re-upped with ANA
Oh well :-(
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Figured as much. His family likes it there. We can’t afford him anyways
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankee just posted:
TSN is updating the Canucks again. Highlights:
* Mats Sundin time is over unless he takes a paycut (yippee!)
* Kicking the tires on Niedermeyer still
* Luongo extension is expected soon, 40 million over 5 years are the numbers
* Schneider in play once Luongo re-ups
* Hansen is expected to be moved
Yeah, no way in hell Mats signs for a cut. Shut up Yankee! haha
If Luongo extends today as well I am going to wet myself a little.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 12:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m out for now. Going to Abby. You guys take care and I’ll yack at ya later on today.
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 1, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
see ya dude.
Say Hi to Sumas Mountain for me.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canucks sign Aaron Rome?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here’s what I’m thinking:
Between Bernier, Wellwood, Raymond, Hodgson, we need to have one player make the jump to 2nd line quality and stick. Because we can’t afford another forward right now.
So then we have:
Burr-Hank-Dank
Demo-Kes-STEPUPGUY
Bern-Hodg-Welly-Raymond (one being the STEPUPGUY)
Hordi-Johnson-Ryp
We’ll miss you, Janik.
Then on D we have:
Willie-Bieksa
Edler-Salo
?-?
Luuuuuu
???
Backup we could probably get Barby to stay for 1 mill i’m guessing, and i’m pencilling welly down for about $1.2 mill (please!) and what’s cody’s entry level hit? $1.6 or something? So I’ve taken $3.8 mill. Which leaves us with 7 mill left for two starting d-men plus 2 bench players. Doable I think? Good d-man for 4 mill, 6
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 12:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, you can add Rome and his half a million salary in there now. He’s gotta be Davison’s replacement (because if he’s considered anything better than that someone needs to be shot)
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok so by my count, with the assumptions about Barby, Welly, and Hodgson’s entry level price (anyone have any info on that?), we now have $6.5 mill for 2 roster d-men and a bench player, likely a forward considering we have McIver and this new dude Rome as 7 and 8. So I think that’s doable still. 4 mill for a top-4 d-man, 1.8 mill for a number 5 d-man, and then another half-mill bench player.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps they’re counting on Grabner to be that extra forward?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I think they are banking on Grabner for the third pivot. Move Kesler back to the center and add a winger somewhere in there (or bump Bernier up but I dare say he’s gotta earn that).
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another problem with Gilly’s unwillingness to do the trendy mega-year-front-loaded deal with the Sedins is that now he cannot offer any deal of that sort to anyone else or he’ll look like a dick to the Sedins, since that’s obviously what they wanted. So if every other team keeps playing that game, Gilly has painted himself into a corner.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We don’t necessarily know Gillis is against them…offering dual 12 year deals is a different deal. And the Sedins are an isolated case, just like Luongo. I think all three of them would be fans of Gillis blowing the doors out a la Sundin on a guy if they all knew it was going to help.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it’s a step up from Roloson
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A very expensive step
At least I hope so. If he signed a one year deal for $3 mill I will be pissed.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 years, 15 million in total
That sounds like a helluva deal for Bulin
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oilers bloggers don't like it, too expensive
They will love it if he leads them to the post-season.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll regret leaving Chicago in short order.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oilers may regret having a 36 year old signed for four years
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a long list of regrets though…it’ll blend in
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between the Bulin deal and the Heatley debacle, I guess we’re seeing why Tamby was passed over for promotion in Vancouver, twice.
by DeafNotDumb on Jul 1, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Heatley is really Heatley’s doing. I think it’s a good sounding trade from the Oil’s perspective. They didn’t count on Heater to be THAT BIG of a dick.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But knowing Heatley had an NTC and that Edmonton was not on the list of preferred destinations, they still made the trade and let the names of their players involved become public. Who in their right mind would choose to go to Edmonton? They need to focus on young players with no movement rights.
by DeafNotDumb on Jul 1, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We don’t know who let the names become public! Ottawa or someone in the Heatley camp may have fucked them on that as well.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really warming to the idea of getting Beauchemin or Kommisarek. Who knows, the longer Gillis ( and other teams ) wait, the lower the price should drop.
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Montréal has Cammalleri
according to TSN and nhl.com
by kentcheesehead on Jul 1, 2009 2:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, at 6 mill per year times 5 years. I’d rather have a Sedin at that price. And then another Sedin.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Calamari is good, but that’s an overpay, imo.
The best would be if Luongo were signed to an extension. 3 more years at 6.5 per season
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The talk I’ve heard is that Lu is in the neighborhood of $40 mill over 5 years. Which I think is fair value, but very worrisome in terms of the fact that $20.2 mill a year is locked up for Lu and the twins for the foreseeable future.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, probably.
I just hope the Canucks sign one more forward. It probably won’t be Gaborik, obviously, we just can’t afford to have Pavol “Empty Netter” Demitra be our prized free agent signing.
by kentcheesehead on Jul 1, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit. Toronto got Komisarek. He could have been good.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know. Waiting for MG to do something. Sedins are an excellent start.
Rome seems like a decent bottom-four Dman, a depth filler. Defensive-minded, from what I’ve heard.
by kentcheesehead on Jul 1, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom 4? Are you kidding? Look at his resume. He’s in-and-out of line up, 7th or 8th d-man material. $500,000 contract is proof of that. No one who expects a real roster spot on ANY team signs for that low. He’s bottom 4, maybe, if you think that 10 players should be counted in a team’s depth on defence. He may surprise if given the opportunity, but for that amount of money, the team isn’t counting on him cracking opening day lineup, and neither is he.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, didn’t mean to get in a rant. My apologies. All these signings going on around the league make me anxious, and it seems like other teams are improving and meanwhile we’re lucky to have added practically nothing and lost Ohlund/Sundin/Pyatt.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
overpaid
maybe for 4.5 would have been nice in the second line, but he made all these point on a line with Iginla. My prediction is that next year he will be in the 50-60 points area. Not worthing the money, let’s spend these money on good defenders, something like Ohlund but younger, and 2 pieces of that
by duru2000 on Jul 1, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awaken to find Canuck-ville is OK...
…Twins sign…Ohlund leaves (no surprise)…and very little other movement on the UFA market for the Canucks…again, no surprise. There isn’t much $$ there and I think Gillis wants to bring up the kids and get some seasoning going with them.
Also very glad to see Chubby and Hansen get qualifying offers. I can keep my bottle of Gammel Danske handy.
As for the defense…Chelios is still available, isn’t he? heh
by GZ Expat on Jul 1, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The talk on TSN and elsewhere is that Hansen is for trading or getting something in return if someone else signs him. Welly we really want I’m pretty sure.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Package up Schneider and Hansen for ???
by GZ Expat on Jul 1, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hansen doesn't add anything
To that trade. I’d rather keep him, personally. Love his speed, love his drive, love his price. I’ll wait do see if he gets any better.
by Thursday on Jul 1, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure what a “goalie of the future” + 3.5 line player gets you.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good price on Pahlsson, yes Yankee, but we have no room or any more 3rd line players on our team, no matter how well they play. We need d-men.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey on this squad he’s a second liner!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secondary Scoring
Samuelsson (81 games, 19 goals)
Tanguay (50 games, 16 goals)
Gionta (81 games, 20 goals)
Comrie (63 games, 10 goals)
Fedotenko (65 games, 16 goals)
Satan (65 games, 17 goals)
Sykora (76games, 25 goals)
Pyatt (69 games, 10 goals)
Hilbert (67 games, 11 goals)
Fiddler (78 games, 11 goals)
Lang (50 games, 18 goals)
Koivu (65 games, 16 goals)
Zednik (70 games, 17 goals)
Kotalik (75 games, 20 goals)
Parrish (44games, 8 goals)
Williams (80 games, 19 goals)
Sakic (15 games, 2 goals)
LaRose (81 games, 19 goals)
Bertuzzi (66 games, 15 goals)
Moore (81 games, 13 goals)
Schaefer (DNP)
Recchi (80 games, 23 goals)
Neidermeyer (79 games, 14 goals)
A recurring theme of these players is the number of games they’ve played: these folks are going to be a die roll, whichever one you get. Obviously, goals don’t tell the entire story with any veteran that gets signed (see also: Sakic, Joe; Scheaffer, Peter) but it’s going to be Vancouver’s primary concern.
Some of these folks are simply going to be asking too much for us to get, and some won’t fit at all, but of these, who should we target with a nice short-term deal? Who’s worth the risk? Who adds more than his points?
And are any of them better than giving the young kids a solid shot (a move that could backfire in a big way, of course)?
by Thursday on Jul 1, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bertuzzi!
…where’s everybody running off to?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny mans!
Still, you look only at his stats, and he wouldn’t be a bad pick-up. It’s the rest of the player that kacks it.
by Thursday on Jul 1, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the land
of NOFUCKINGTHANKYOU
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d take bertuzzi back if:
1. his cap hit were negative
2. he had miko koivu’s brain implanted
3. we could cannibalize his body parts when one of our other players gets injured.
by passive_voice on Jul 1, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t mind about half of these guys, but have to admit they don’t really excite me. (Sorry, Sakic’s not really coming here!)
Williams, Recchi, or LaRose are possibly the best options. Heck, I’d love to have Shanahan on the 4th line, but it’s the 2nd/3rd we’ve got to worry about.
by Thursday on Jul 1, 2009 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will quietly wish for gionta but prepare to be insulted when he becomes a Ranger or something.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love Gionta,
Unlikely to be able to afford him. Plus, his size isn’t really what Vancouver’s looking for, is it? Then again, if Bernier grows a bit of a mean streak, that’d be quite a nice pairing…
by Thursday on Jul 1, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gaborik to the Rags for five years. Chuckle accordingly.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wait it’s 7.5 million a season for Gabby as a Ranger. hahahahahaha….I LOVE YOU GLEN SATHER!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dump 8 million
add 7.5
why not? It’s the Rangers, after all
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Demo is in a corner crying somewhere?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it is 5.75 mill per year
nonetheless…
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 5:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TSN says 7.5. Where did you get 5.75? That’d be quite cheap… I’d be shocked.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
My bad, I was following this thread, the Rangers SB Nation blog.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Labarbera is off to Phoenix. So, yeah, need a back up somewhere soon…kiss Gionta goodbye too.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 5:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dammit
that’s too bad. I really wanted him to be a Canuck
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our back up is going to have to be dirt cheap or Schneider if we don’t move him before the season starts
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Schneider as a back-up
Zany and I were talking about how it doesn’t help his development to sit for 70+ games. He needs another season in the AHL.
Any chance Sanford re-ups considering the middle finger we gave him toward the end of last season?
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lot of commentators been saying that Lu should play less games, get him in better shape for the playoffs. Perhaps that would mean 20+ games for the backup, which would be doable for Schneids, but I gotta think he has no role on this team but trade-bait once Lu re-ups.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly true.
If he has a solid season in the AHL his value could be quite high.
by Temujin on Jul 1, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But then his value in a trade is slightly diminished because of a lack of NHL experience.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madden to Chicago, 2.?+mil,1 year
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chicago cannot sign anyone else beyond this season. They just took on years of Hossa $$$ and have Keith, Kane, Versteeg, and Toews WAY under-valued and needing to be re-sign next year. They are gunning for Stanley Cup 2010 or bust.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m shocked that no one has signed in LA. They are an up-and-coming young team with a lot of cap space right now. They could push for a playoff spot with just a couple pieces, primarily on D. They should be offering a lot for Beauchemin.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And LA has the most cap space of any team. They may have tried for the big names and lost out. Kovalev is still out there.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And shhh…I’m still holding out for Beauchemin. Or Morris now. I give up. Someone.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morris is crap. Boo that idea.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a liability, but has an offensive upside would would be nice for the PP
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BC, do you have love for anybody that’s left?
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
by Smoboy41 on Jul 1, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No upgrade so far, don’t know how we will compete…
Well, we’ll wait for the Luongod announcement, and hopefully a top-6 forward…
We are all Canucks.
by Chinese Canuck on Jul 1, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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