NHL Draft Day Open Thread / Live Updates
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
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7:05 PM: Gillis tells James Duthie that he is confident he will sign the Sedins AND that he is basically liking how the progress is going with a Luongo extension.
7:02 PM: It looked like the Canucks would get John Moore as a potential steal at #22. But Columbus traded up to pick before Gillis and snagged him. TSN had him ranked at #13. What is Gillis going to do now? Take the next best defenceman?
Answer: Luongo takes the stage and announces the pick: Jordan Schroeder. A forward. TSN loves this pick.
6:30 PM: Roberto Luongo is sitting at the draft table with Mike Gillis and co. The Province thinks that this indicates that there is a strong possibility that an extension may have been reached. According to a poster at the CDC boards, Nick Kypreos is reporting that his sources are saying that an extension has been reached as well. I may eat crow yet. However, if a deal is in place, it cannot be announced until after July 1st. We'll see...
4:45 PM: Reports out there are saying that Niedermayer has indeed decided to play again next season and that obviously the Ducks will sign him, as they moved Pronger. This may be the big "suck it" to Taylor and Pratt at Team 1040 for starting that Niedermayer to Canucks shiz last month.
4:00 PM: TSN has just said that the Ducks have traded Chris Pronger to the Flyers. Wow. I thought the Quacks would wait until Scott Niedermayer made a decision. Maybe he has. Official: Pronger and Ryan Dingle for Joffrey Lupul, Sbisa and 2 first round picks. Jesus. This means that the Flyers are going to have to flog several players (Briere) to get under the cap this summer).
2:43 PM: JP Barry is not feeling so snug that a deal will get done between the Canucks and the Sedins.
"We've been negotiating for more than a year, so it's hard for me to say I'm optimistic," Barry told Rogers Sportsnet on Friday. "We haven't really made a lot of progress in a year. We're going to have to address the gap that we have - but we've only got five days to do it."
You know Gillis is trying to make them sweat right now. And you have to figure that this is Barry trying to perhaps light a fire under Gillis. 5 more days and by God who knows what is going to happen.
11:26 AM: Pics of the the top ten ranked prospects from today's media lunch have been posted over at Bird Watchers Anonymous.
10:02 AM: All it took was John Buccigross to flap his gums on the Team 1040 yesterday that Roberto Luongo and the Canucks had reached a deal on an extension. It was false. Yet I still see (over lame Twitter feeds) that people think it's true. IT'S NOT f**king TRUE! There have not been many or any talks about it since the Canucks were eliminated from the playoffs. Luongo's agent is in Montreal and Luongo is meeting him there soon. There will not be an announcement after July 1st because there is no deal.
Luongo has made it clear that he will sign with a team that is a contender after this season. In order for him to sign here, he'll wait and see what Mike Gillis does and then play out the season. Don't expect any news of an extension signed until next spring/summer. You can expect a bunch of speculation, anxiety and anger about the issue going forward.
10:00 AM: Scott Niedermayer is having a hard time making up his mind about retiring or not. He still has not given the Ducks' GM an answer, even though he said he'd let Murray know by Draft Day. Clock is ticking, Scotty. Shit or get off the pot.
7:00 AM: Woke up to the news that it was the Bruins who offered that sweet deal to Brian Burke yesterday: Phil Kessel and the Leafs' first pick today for Tomas Kaberle. Isn't that a little much for Kaberle?
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What about Louis Leblanc? He’s taken a bit of a strange route so far, opting for the USHL over the CHL and deciding early to go to college (he’s committed to Harvard next year). He gets raves though, and he’s often compared to Mike Richards or John Leclair. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=423360&navid=DL|NHL|DraftMicrosite
by DeafNotDumb on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions
Ranked #17 by TSN.
Hmm. I hope we get something on defence though.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
D is the definite need. I do recall Pierre McGuire saying that Leblanc played early in his junior career with some top end prospects and didn’t look out of place. It just seems to me like another chance to make a Cody Hodgson style splash, where in a year or two the guy you took late in the first round is considered much better than a late round pick. I suspect he’ll go to Montreal anyway.
by DeafNotDumb on Jun 26, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Bah! Ed Willies’ opinion! It is depressing though. Not necessarily accurate. I still think the Twins sign here.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Similarly depressing is this TSN story on Luongo wanting $8 million for five years. And, in the same article, talks about how he doesn’t want to handicap the team on payroll either.
I need a drink…
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 26, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
oh my goddamn, this is such an enormous crossroads for the nuckers. it’s really nerve-wracking. the good news is that no matter what happens with lou and the twins, we’re probably gonna get a good player tonight.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Is 40M over 5 for Luongo better or worse than 43.5M over 5 for Crosby or Malkin?
by CarolinaCanuck on Jun 26, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a good reason to be depressed. This signing is gonna make or break Gillis. If he signs the Sedins, he will be looked upon favorably, if he lets them go, hes a tool forever. How the Nucks braintrust could even consider developing the twins for years, and then walkin away at the beginnin of there elite years is madness.
I’m scalin back my fandom if the Sedins walk. I can’t take it, its beyond stupid!!!!!
“The way Roberto wants to go, he doesn’t want to hit the jackpot, he wants to have a good team,” Lupien told CKNW. “And by doing that, you have to work with the team. We’re looking for a bit more money, but nothing that would strangle the team. I think we’re going forward to have a deal done in the future.”
That sounds somewhat positive for me.
I meant the fact anyone leaked $8 million is depressing. That is strangulation. You can’t pay that much money for a goalie anymore (certainly not over 5 years), especially if you want the Sedins hanging around or have a prayer at singing a productive winger or two.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, Luongo’s salary jumps to $7.5 this year. It’s not that much of a stretch. He’s now in the prime of his career. Id pay a goalie that much over paying a defenceman that much.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
In that case Grabner better be the second coming of Bure and Hodgson better be the second coming of christ because our front lines will never get full.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
btw
there’s been talk of duchene going to the isles. i have no idea how reliable the info is, but i dislike any situation that involves hemdan or especially tavares falling to the avs.
hahaha, shit
actually, i’d be fine with anybody named “hemdan” going to the avs. Hedman, on the other hand, would make me nervous.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
No way around the Avs getting a good player tonight. Have faith that they’ll continue to be pretty bad for at least another year or so (unless they find a goalie).
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
haha, no!
we want them to improve to, like, edmonton oilers levels, where they pick around #10-17 every year.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed!
But I really can’t see the \Isles passing on Tavares.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
me neither
it’d be absurd. they just can’t.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
J.P. Berry's
Giving deep sighs to Sportsnet, complaining that after “negotiating for a year” he doesn’t think the Sedins are any closer to signing with Vancouver.
A YEAR? Who the hell do you think you’re fooling? Negotiations started after the playoffs, or did you conveniently forget that, dipshit?
Gah. Agents bother me.
This Sedin shit is beginning to bother me. If Gillis isn’t planning on bringing these guys back, he better have the mother of all battle plans locked up because losing them is going to set this team back a ways.
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Also vexing is the questions nagging the Sedins if they do resign big-time with the Nucks:
Can they win the Cup as our #1 line?
That’s like asking can Luongo win it as our #1 goalie I think. The answer is yes to both, but it’s a team sport so it’s always the sum of the parts.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 26, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
haha, doesn’t matter. That is a huge acquisition for the Flyers to go further in the playoffs
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
really, really, hate this deal for the flyers. pronger now≠pronger in 2007
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Screw NHL.com…their audio feed sucks. On to Team 1040 as they are rolling the TSN feed.
Tavares better have a really strong heart and head…because the Isles are gonna play him right away and they are going to expect a ton out of him right away. Why do I see a great possible career getting squashed?
Tavares stated moments ago that he doesn’t panic and likes pressure situations. Every guy is different.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
He hasn’t played in front of NYC fans tho…they’ll tear him to pieces if he falters. And, he never quite made Oshawa a winner on his own…what makes the Isles think he’s gonna do it for them?
Bah, the Isles are rebuilding. Expectations shouldn’t be too high there
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Well they had to replace Hatcher after all :)
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
No, those minutes go to Krajicek. I kid.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
he was a first round pick by the Flyers last year. Wow. They sold the farm on Pronger. They’ll get that back when they flog Briere methinks.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Duchene will be a star in the NHL…the guy has one of the best personalities I have heard out of a hockey player in ages. Easy with the microphone…very nice.
The Avs will be young quick and deadly soon enough. But not this season.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You bet. Now they need immediate help at center.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Reports now surfacing that Niedermayer has told Ducks GM that he will play next season. Can assume the Ducks will sign him, not the Canucks.
Optimistic Fans
Hear that roar whenever a trade gets mentioned? I feel like adding “No, it’s not him. Okay?”
Don Cherry always rants about how the Leafs never pick players from their own back yard
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Should we start a pool as to what time the Canucks actually make their pick?
I’ll take July 31st…6pmEST
No love for Heatley from Bryan Murray. No deals in place. Not even close. “He’ll play left wing on our team next year” (if nobody offers a good deal)
Good grief!
They barely talked to the kid on the biggest day of his life! Instead, Duthie asked about Heatley… Geeze, guys! Give him a break!
And Dreger just Tweeted about it too…poor kid…can you imagine what he is stepping into there. Maybe its time to pull a Lindros
What is “pulling a Lindros”
Not as useful as Rated-R Superstar, but, hey!, I stick my Grease watching to once a weekend.
by rollonubears on Jun 26, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Ottawa is heading for rebuild mode I guess. Heatley is going to sulk his way through a season there.
Nah, somebody will take Heatley this summer, especially when key free agents get taken and desperation sets in.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Reisendorf bids $148m for the Yotes. Holy crap, the courts can’t be happy with that given the size of Basille’s offer.
name is too long. can’t fit it on a jersey!
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Tambellini talks about “Oilers hockey”. It’s amazing how they stick to their run and gun crash the net style consistently
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
A real Rooskie? Complete with fuzzy hat with hammer and cycle on the front?
You see, I am a child of the Cold War and I can’t get over it.
Her parents are going to send me one of them hats
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
And there goes Ellis
Nashville does love their D-Men! That’s one hell of a strong defence they’ve got themselves.
He was drafted as an offensive defenceman but is slowly dropping down the ranks in Nashville. Maybe the Canucks should sign him
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No fucking way! My actual name is Sean Zandberg. Sound familiar?
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I grew up just past Glacier Gulch road, but now live in town by the Christian Elementary School
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
no kidding
was there a worry of him going in the next four picks?
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Expat would disagree. He knows because he lives there. I shouldn’t have said that about Wangnut Jr. to begin with.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really…there is a saying here, due to the one child policy, and they call the fat little kids ‘little emperors’ because they are the kids that are completely spoiled and rule the house, because the parents only get one kid. I’d imagine Wang’s kid sorta falls under the same spoiled deal.
Now…Chinese kids are born with proportionally huge heads…that much is certain.
speaking of make-up
that ashton kid has something really, really feminine about him.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
about his face**
unless the flames draft him, in which case i mean “about his entire being”
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
too bad
kulikov’s fall didn’t get crazy enough.
they talk about the KHL and contracts and stuff
but i’m willing to bet, if you’re an 18-yo kid, the prospect of spending winters in Miami is pretty damn enticing. especially if the alternative is somewhere in siberia.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
with the money he makes, he can afford the damned green card applications. It just takes for-fucking-ever
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
S'Alright
he can prove that he’s a “skilled labourer”: when you’re one in 800 people in the world who can do a job, and in the public eye, that part’s easy.
doesn’t mean the green card application isn’t painful
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
somebody had to take a chance on him eventually.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
He could DOUBLE Nazzy’s putrid stats! :)
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
But if they don’t have to pay it…
I just don’t think Heatley’s moving until after Ottawa pays up.
hmmm
i think, as an ardent ducks-hater, the holland pick is a little worrisome.
REALLLY??
I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT THIS TO HAPPEN
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
whoa
too much bold, sorry. but the point really stands.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
nice
but yes. i’ma get militant about this one.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
rundblad
and his awesome name are no longer an option
hehehe
“i’d like to announce that you’re not getting lecavalier, so fuck off”
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Can he handle THAT pressure? Who knows.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody just posted to Twitter.
BREAKING: Louis LeBlanc has just been voted to the 2010 All Star Game
i’m okay with not getting him. i guess i’m leery of high-schoolers.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
not if they don’t want the saddledome to get burned to the ground.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
very interesting
can we have two picks? think anybody’ll notice if we just say two names?
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully not a defenceman. Actually my bets are he needs help up front.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
another guy i would have been okay with
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
general consensus
not that far though; if gilly likes him as much as i feel he should, it wouldn’t be a ridiculous pick right here
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
i’d like to get norm macdonald’s burt reynolds character to make the pick.
BR: “yeah i’ll take wayne gretzky”
Bettman: [silence]
BR: “good player”
GB: “you can’t take him.”
BR: “sure I did”
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm...
Not what I was looking for, at all, at all. Still, best available, and that’s certainly never a bad tactic.
I wonder if they would have picked Moore..
But like Gillis just said…the best player available. Gillis does expect a deal to get done with the Sedins. Says the extension with Luongo process looks great.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
i’d look at it more as “another forward”
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
fuck
darryl sutter is an ugly goddamn bastard.
erixon to calgary.
hey, when the hell did calgary decide that not all europeans are spineless losers?
Right after they acquired Jokinen and pissed away their Canadian talent for him
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Schroeder is a center yes, but he’s an ASSET now. Gillis made the right pick by taking the best guy.
agree
he’s also a high-schooler, probably (hopefully) 2-3 years from the nhl, and for all we know we’ll be in desperate need of centers by then.
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Schroeder looks stalky though. Could be a beast
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you mean
“Stocky”. Otherwise, we’ve got a player who peeps in windows and calls his coaches at 3 AM…
jeez
might get all the way through without a goalie getting picked.
hahaha
Booin the Brooins, a montreal tradition
Eric Duhatschek:
By the size of him, looks like he’s got some Milan Lucic in him.
Anyone who gets that comment is worth a look
to be fair
everybody bigger than 200 pounds is gonna be compared to looch for the next couple years.
btw, TSN’s comparable down below was Bernier :D
by passive_voice on Jun 26, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of "Stocky"...
How about 5’10" and 190lbs. for Palmieri? He’s gonna be a banger for Anaheim, damn it.
Good grief
Why move up four spots at this point, Tampa? Can’t picture any serious announcements after this point, so I guess we’ll see if Elliott or Roussel or another D-man is available for Vancouver’s next pick.
Selections are getting a little random, so maybe there will be more trades tomorrow out of fear…
Eric Duhatschek: Swapping 29 for 32 is not a big deal, as you note James. I just think Lawton wanted two first-rounders because it looks sexy. I remember in 1999, Milbury traded into the first round right at the end, so that he could get four first-rounders. THey were: Tim Connolly at five; Taylor Pyatt at eight, Branislav Mezei at 28 and Kristian Kudroc at 28. Granted, not a great draft overall, but he didn’t have a lot to show for FOUR first-round picks.
I'm Old
I was thinking of his dad’s record: he was traded eight times in his pretty good (998 games) career.
Nope. Drafted in round 2 by the Canucks though.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Time to find a mystery d-man out of Siberia! haha
Thanks for hangin’ here, all.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
some very interesting names left.
I’d really love to see the canucks trade up somehow.
i’d obviously kill to somehow land Elliott at this point, and Ferraro’s also fallen pretty far. i’d be happy with landing jeremy morin or c-o roussel too.
No way. Trading up tends to cost too much. But hey you never know.
BTW, who the hell are you? You grew up in Smithers? Near Lake Kathlyn? Fuck that water is cold right now. And weedy.
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
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