Quiz And A Query

by Yankee Canuck on May 28, 2009 9:24 AM PDT in Canucks Trivia Comment 38 comments

Note: As mentioned earlier we'll be running these posts about once a week over the cruel, hockey-less summer months. The quiz tests your Vancouver Canucks knowledge while the query allows you to be Monday Morning GM.

Play to win (nothing really, it's pride people). Attempt to not cheat unless you start putting a gun to your head...then by all means cheat.

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Question #1: There's only been one trade in Canucks history that was ever nullified*. Name the Canuck player who management attempted to move and the reason it was nullified.

* - That I'm aware of. If I'm wrong, chuck a brick at my head in the comments.

Query #1: In 2003 the Canucks selected Ohio State University's Ryan Kesler with their first round pick, 23rd overall. The following list shows the 2008 production of the ten players selected behind Kesler (picks 23-33):

	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PPG	SHG	GWG	GTG	SOG	PCT
2008 - Ryan Kesler	82	26	33	59	8	61	10	2	2	0	179	14.5

	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PPG	SHG	GWG	GTG	SOG	PCT
2008 - Mike Richards	79	30	50	80	22	63	8	7	4	0	238	12.6

	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PPG	SHG	GWG	GTG	SOG	PCT
2008 - Anthony Stewart	59	2	5	7	-6	34	0	0	0	0	56	3.6

	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PPG	SHG	GWG	GTG	SOG	PCT
2008 - Brian Boyle	28	4	1	5	-9	42	0	0	1	0	36	11.1

	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PPG	SHG	GWG	GTG	SOG	PCT
2008 - Jeff Tambellini	65	7	8	15	-20	32	0	0	0	0	98	7.1

	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PPG	SHG	GWG	GTG	SOG	PCT
2008 - Corey Perry	78	32	40	72	10	109	10	0	8	1	283	11.3

	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PPG	SHG	GWG	GTG	SOG	PCT
2008 - Patrick Eaves	74	6	8	14	7	31	1	1	1	0	115	5.2

Shawn Belle

#32 / Defenseman / Montreal Canadiens

Height: 6-2

Weight: 232

Born: Jan 03, 1985

(No 2008 Stats)

Danny Richmond

#0 / Defenseman / St. Louis Blues

Height: 6-0

Weight: 192

Born: Aug 01, 1984

(No 2008 Stats)

Ryan Stone

#33 / Pittsburgh Penguins

Height: 6-2

Weight: 207

Born: Mar 20, 1985

(No 2008 Stats)

	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PPG	SHG	GWG	GTG	SOG	PCT
2008 - Loui Eriksson	82	36	27	63	14	14	7	1	4	2	178	20.2

Other notables behind Kesler include Patrice Bergeron (45th), Dan Fritsche (46th), Matt Carle (47th), Shea Weber (49th), Patrick O'Sullivan (56th) and David Backes (62nd).

So Mr. or Ms. GM, weighing not just stats but also what the player means to their respective team, would you still have taken Kesler with the first round pick?

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Imagine Perry with the Sedins.
Yeah.

"Life is just a place where we spend time between games. Hockey is where we live, where we can best meet and overcome pain and wrong and death." - Fred Shero

by Karina on May 28, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions

Or Richards? Yikes.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 28, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions

Richards or Perry would have been great pick-ups, but I truly dig Kesler. I believe he has the best wheels of the three and will put up some killer numbers in the 09/10 season now that he’s playing as a top 6 forward.

by Villain85 on May 28, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions

I agree with your optimism. But he’s got some stiff company in that draft class. Just knowing Richards was a pick behind him is so tempting.

Career numbers for both:
Kesler: 320GP, 65G, 75A, 140pts
Richards: 290GP, 79G, 142A, 221 pts.

71 point different in only 30 games says a lot, both about the strength of Richards linemates as well as his overall skill. Richards is already a captain, Kesler I think will be one day. Both are up for the Selke.

Like I said, very tempting…

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by Yankee Canuck on May 28, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions

What the Canucks needed

Perry’s a monster (286 GP, 91 G, 195 pts, 322 PIM), and possibly who I’d go for over Kesler. That being said, Kesler was groomed for a different role than anyone else on this list: he was tagged as a defencive forward/penalty killer for his first two and a half seasons, where Richards was dropped onto an offensive line at the start.

Kesler brings speed and drive to a team that needed both, and he’s got the will to do anything asked of him. He’s a shut-down guy the other team has to check, which can drive line-matching coaches off the deep end. I really do think he was the best choice for Vancouver, but I’d pick Perry close behind and Richards right after him.

But Loui Eriksson may be the best goal scorer of the lot when all is said and done, so if you think the leadership on Vancouver is fine, then that may be your choice.

by Thursday on May 28, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions

Yeah I’ve been ignoring Eriksson too but he’s not a bad choice either. You’re right, probably the best pure goal scorer that far into the draft.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions

Definitely Richards and Perry over Kesler. Ah hindsight is great…

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by Sean Zandberg on May 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions

I hate to say it but Richards > Kesler EASILY.

I’d say Perry is about equal with Kesler. Perry has better finish and a bit more size/grit, whereas Kesler has better wheels and 2-way play.

I don’t wanna start an argument about this, but I’d rather draft the Canadian kid too. They generally want it more.

by cyxj on May 28, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions

Perry is a darned good penalty killer himself and the reason, I think, he’s not seen as being a better 2 way player is simply because that’s not his role.

"Life is just a place where we spend time between games. Hockey is where we live, where we can best meet and overcome pain and wrong and death." - Fred Shero

by Karina on May 28, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Richards vs Kesler is a tough one. If there was a player I would have taken though, its Shea Weber. Big, fast, tough, skilled and a team guy. Norris trophy winner one day and our mainstay D-man to Canadian gold in 2010.
Perry is okay, he’s got great numbers cause of Getslaf though, so I would take Kesler over that punk over and over.

by Nuckels on May 28, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions

You know what’s more annoying? In the same round of 2003, the Ducks picked Getzlaf 19th and Perry at 28th…two killer picks within ten slots of each other. Fuckers.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 28, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh my. Drafting genius!

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by Sean Zandberg on May 28, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions

And a couple years later they got Bobby Ryan late in the game as well. Damn ducks.

by Beantown Canuck on May 28, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Whats crazy is that they traded for Pronger and managed to keep both players.

by Nuckels on May 28, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Nobody knows the answer to question 1 yet? I don’t.

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by Sean Zandberg on May 28, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah I don’t want to pop the answer just yet. I’ll give a hint though: he was in the news this week and his name appears SOMEWHERE on this page.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 28, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Peter Zezel. I don’t know why (or who he is for that matter), but he fits the qualification of being in the news this week and being on this page.

Unleash the Honk! Train. Honk Honk.

by rollonubears on May 28, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Peter Zezel

Peter Zezel… all to do with that whole Brian Burke trading him away from a sick family member or something so he retired from the NHL, thus voiding the deal..

by T.Haynes on May 28, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions

T. Haynes gets it. Rollonubears was right too but Haynes had the reason why. Well done.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 28, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Who to draft?

I’d take Richards or Perry no doubt, but I’m extremely happy with Kesler so far.

Perry is a better goal scorer than Eriksson… no doubt!

by T.Haynes on May 28, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions

Right now, yes. In two years, I’m not so sure. I think Eriksson could be the best scorer on the list over his carreer.

by Thursday on May 28, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Now that rings a bell

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by Sean Zandberg on May 28, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions

@T.Haynes

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by Sean Zandberg on May 28, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions

I’ll do an easier question next week maybe. That one was pretty tough if you didn’t remember the dark Keenan years.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 28, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions

I can only remember the good things Keenan did…like bringing in Messier.
haha…relax

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by Sean Zandberg on May 28, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Keenan is a douched. But he did get us Bert, and Bert did turn into Luongo. Just throwing some thoughts out there.

by Beantown Canuck on May 28, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions

you bet

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by Sean Zandberg on May 28, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions

(emerges from coma I’ve been in for the past 3 weeks, throws on old Tony Tanti jersey)

Hey Fellas! Who are we playing in the Finals?

(looks around)

Fellas…….?

by Sneps-ish on May 29, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions

In my fantasy land? The Caps.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 29, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions

Mine would be a rematch with the Rangers

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by Sean Zandberg on May 29, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions

I think I’d have an embolitic stroke brought on by a liberal dosing of pure hate if I had to stomach the Rangers again.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 29, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, but you’re health be damned! haha.

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by Sean Zandberg on May 29, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Next Year:

I’d love to see the Nucks go up against the Caps,
Ovechkin vs. Kesler/Luongo vs.Varlamov would be a blast.
I’d also pay to see Cheli’s Chili Bar burn down.
And Adam Burnish get rejected for a mortgage.
And Pronger slowly being devoured by a giant Galapagos Turtle.

I need a drink.

I've hummed the "Indiana Jones" theme song after sex.
My gal hates this. Does that count as a signature?

by Sneps-ish on May 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions

I’m all for physical pain to Pronger and Burish. And Chelios. And the entire Calgary and Rangers organization.

Perhaps I have anger issues…

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by Yankee Canuck on May 29, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey!

Not the Chili bar!

SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on May 30, 2009 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions

I can’t hate Chelios. He called out the refs after their bullshit in last year’s finals and he beat up the turtling Larry Murphy in the 1992 Finals. He’s cool in my books.

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by Sean Zandberg on May 30, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions