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Any Chance Of Mats Sundin Returning To Vancouver?

"Mats, are you having fun or what?"

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"Mats, are you having fun or what?"

The brief Sundin era in Vancouver gave us both highs and lows. When he first agreed to sign here around Christmas there were haters that abounded. Then there were people like me who were in disbelief and overjoyed, as I've been a big fan of his for so long.

The process of Mats getting his legs back after joining a team late in the season was mostly painful to watch: the short shifts, the floating, the defensive lapses, the lack of speed, the inopportune times taking penalties etc. The Big Swede was under constant scrutiny because of the high expectations that came with him and the dollars he signed for.

In his first 9 games played here, Mats scored 2 goals and 1 assist. He also had 16 minutes in penalties and was a minus player in 6 of those games. But then Alain Vigneault assembled the RPM line, adding Ryan Kesler with Mats and Demitra. That paid off immediately. Sundin scored 4 goals and 8 points in his next 7 games. Finally, a legit 2nd line! Kesler and Demitra thrived playing with Mats.

Then there were 3 consecutive games with no points, followed by the final 21 games of the season, where Sundin scored 3 goals and 13 points. Not bad, considering he was playing nearly 5 minutes less per game than what he would have played in Toronto, but not exactly Sundin-esque either.

Star-divide

The next question was: "Was Sundin going to step it up in the playoffs?" Well, that question wasn't really answered in the Blues series, as he looked a tad better and had 1 goal in 2 games before injuring his knee. But during the long layoff between the Blues and Hawks series something clicked inside of his head. Sundin played the whole Hawks series and scored 2 goals and 7 points in the 6 games. In games 5 and 6 he was arguably the best Canuck out there. Alas, it was too late. 8 points in 8 playoff games though. I think he answered the bell. He at least matched his usual point-per-game pace in the post season.

Ironically, the only time he played over 19:00 in a game for the Canucks was in Game 6 against Chicago, inevitably his last game as a Canuck.

Was signing him a fail? Yes and no. It could have been a lot worse. He gave as a bonafide 2nd line throughout his tenure here. He sparked something in Ryan Kesler and vice versa. We needed that. So, given the fact that I'm biased to him I am going to give Mats a big thank you for signing here, for better or for worse. Some nights I tore my hair out because it took him so long to get his legs going. Other nights my man crush would flair up all over again. Like I said, it really was a roller coaster ride.

What are the chances that he returns? Slim to none. Mike Gillis had a "great meeting" with Sundin after the Hawks series was over. He said he will wait a few weeks before he talks to Mats again. Sundin on the other hand has stated that he will take the summer to decide on his future. The problem here is that, well, here we go again. Another summer of waiting for Sundin. The biggest problem will be the financial end of it. With Gillis almost certain to retain the Sedins, there will not be much room to sign Sundin again this time. A paycut for Mats? Yeah, I don't think so.

If Mats returns to the NHL, it will not be here. I think that's why I'm saying my goodbye to him now. I'd love to see him play here again, from training camp-on, but there are too many obstacles for Gillis to climb to make this happen.

-Mats Sundin's game-to-game stats with the Canucks.

VIDEOS

-Sundin's first goal as a Canuck.

-Leafs fans give Sundin a standing ovation. Emotional stuff.

-Sundin buries the Leafs in the shootout.

-Sundin's interview after that win. Class.

-Sundin's 2-1 goal in Game 5 against the Blackhawks.

-Sundin's potential last goal with the Canucks, in Game 6 against the Blackhawks:

 

 

Like a fool, I will follow the Sundin saga over the summer. But like Gandalf said: "There never really was much hope. Only a fool's hope."

Poll
Mats Sundin's brief tenure in Vancouver was:
Enjoyable. I liked the RPM Line's emergence and what Sundin brought to our power play
58 votes
A fail. We should have got someone else.
37 votes
Good and bad. I'm torn on the matter
62 votes

157 votes | Poll has closed

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Sundin is indeed a world-class player

He elevated his game in the playoffs, as great players often do. The Canucks got the additional scoring dimension they were looking for, but sadly it wasn’t enough.

In the battle of the strong, victory goes to the brave.

by javaball on May 16, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You’re a good man for saying that. I can appreciate Sundin love.

by Sean Zandberg on May 16, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he can be a second line contributer with a full season under his belt he’s worth bringing back, unless Hodgson is ready to play next year. I’m repeating myself here, but I think that Sundin’s spot is where they eventually want to slot Hodgson, and then it all depends on if they want to give him time with Manitoba or not.

by rsm on May 16, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sundin’s worth will only be known as we watch Kesler, Raymond, Burrows and others mature. As a difference maker, Sundin didnt live up to his billing, he was slow, lethargic and seemingly uninterested some nights. I’m sure though that Gillis signed him for as much a pressence in the dressing room as the ice. So for that reason, I answered “torn” on the poll.
I would rather see Sundin ride off though this summer. If he was so sign for WAY less, then I wouldnt mind seein him again. Anything over 3 mil a year though would be an overpay though and I think he might get more from NY or somewhere.
At this point, I think Wellwood would be a better fit for us next year…

by Nuckels on May 16, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed – he picked up his game in the playoffs, but that’s the mid-point of the season if he started when everyone else did. Is there ANY player that has done well after missing the first three months of the season? Speaking of which, he may well do that again next year.

Too frustrating to keep, but thanks for the games all the same.

by Thursday on May 16, 2009 8:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

will he play for 3 mil?

gonna go waaaaaaaaaaay out on a limb and guess ‘no’. so i hope he goes elsewhere.

if, however, he’s feeling charitable, i think he’d be a positive presence on the team.

by passive_voice on May 16, 2009 8:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we forget that he very likely wanted to play for another team but ended up picking the Canucks by default, only because Gillis kept cap space open. I don’t see him coming back, even if he doesn’t retire.

by hailstop on May 16, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That is my thought as well.

by Sean Zandberg on May 16, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo

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by PPP on May 19, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Gillis was banking on Sundin to heat up in time for the playoffs, and Sundin didn’t disappoint. He was point-per-game in the playoffs, the same as the Sedins. The three of them lead the team in points, goals and assists. He definitely earned his pay.

With Sundin in the lineup, it was definitely the best chance the Canucks had to win the Cup, or so Gillis thought. Unfortunately, defense and goaltending, which were supposed to be the strengths of the team, imploded.

The team still have to learn and improve in many areas before they can become genuine contenders, IMO. So for that reason, it might be wise to invest in those areas rather than re-sign Sundin.

In the battle of the strong, victory goes to the brave.

by javaball on May 16, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sundin wasn’t the best 2-way player either. Not the best back checker by any stretch. Yeah, whoever he gets for the top 6 forward position even had better have the ability to be responsible defensively.

by Sean Zandberg on May 16, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To answer your question

…no he ain’t coming back. (Golf clap).

Time to join Naslund and retire.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 17, 2009 4:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Both of them only a year or so late.

Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.

by PPP on May 19, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bah! Sundin would have pulled off 75-80 points had he been in Van since training camp

by Sean Zandberg on May 19, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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