Canucks Deadline Recap: See No Evil, Hear No Evil
Very disappointed. They should have at least get some 3rd or 4th line help. The D is quite good so no need for room for improvement. If they stink in the 1st round of the playoffs or miss it, I will blame AV and MG for this.
...and that from the CDC took all of 30 minutes to pop up after the deadline passed.
Naturally you'd expect that sort of thing to come up because few, if any, people thought Vancouver would end the day with no moves at all. Maybe that annoying feeling you have in the pit of your stomach (assuming you're sober and are cognizant of your own feelings) is the same "bad Christmas" feeling you had as a kid right? When you asked your parents for "Super Mario Brothers II" for the old NES system and you look down amongst the holiday wrapping paper and see "Adventures of Lolo", you feel cheated, throw the game in the fireplace and pen death threats to Santa.
Now, that said, you have to ask yourself if today was a failure and, once there's some distance from this afternoon, you'll see that the answer is no.
First, we know Gillis tried to make some moves but they had to be the right ones. He mentioned countless times that he wasn't interested in moving picks, prospects or roster guys without getting the right sort of guy in return. He wasn't kidding; consider what Jeff Paterson mentioned in the caucks.com liveblog:
I have it on impeccable authority that Recchi was offered to the Vancouver Canucks for less than Boston gave up to get him, but the Canucks must have felt Recchi wasn't the right fit.
Similarly, we have no idea what the GM's wanted in return from Gillis, leading us to the Bouwmeester thing.
An aside - I read somewhere (today is a blur so my apologies for not finding the link to the source) that the Bouwmeester offer was more of a ploy to show Bouwmeester himself that Vancouver wants him, leaving that lingering taste in his mouth so he remembers it by July 1st.
But the initial Bouwmeester rumor was for Raymond and a first rounder, then Bieksa was added to it, then other reports were suggesting Hodgson too. We now know that Bieksa was never mentioned specifically by either GM. Still, Gillis should be expected to move a projected blue chipper plus a first rounder on top whatever else Florida may have wanted? How far removed is that from last year when, for Brad Richards, there was talk of moving Edler, Kesler and a pick? How amazingly bad would that look now? The risk badly outweighs the reward on both counts.
Gillis didn't even want to move picks as high as the second round. He's not alone; I count only one first rounder that was moved today (Calgary's) and I can't count how many times I saw "conditional" draft picks used as an asset instead.
The GM admitted afterwards:
"We talked to a number of teams about a number of possibilities," Gillis said. "But giving up second round picks for players who aren't long term players was something I had agreed and decided not to do as long as eight months ago."
"If we can't improve our team, why would we just spend money?" Gillis said. "We made every attempt to do what we could do to improve the team. I think most fans who are logical thinkers, who are true Canuck fans, see just to spend money because we have it is not the best business model."
This echoes very much what I've heard Burke talk about countless times today: economic uncertainty. Without knowing what the cap will be next year means he doesn't know what reality and constraints he'll be working with. Eating a guy with a bloated salary in a trade could stop him from bettering Vancouver in the future. And, yes, he still has Ohlund and the Sedins to sign before July 1 with Luongo's contract not too far down the line either. But the Burrows extension should show you he's going to reward those who deserve the reward.
Lastly, there's Calgary. We managed to survive the Tanguay days no? Just prepare yourself for every media outlet to jump up and down and applaud Calgary's moves today (Bill Clement has already said they are the favorite to win the Cup so the kiss of death is in effect). The Flames did do a great job in one respect (fleecing Colorado for Leopold). The Jokinen deal itself could ultimately be protection against Cammalleri bolting next summer. But how these two are integrated on their team? We don't know. And Jokinen himself seems to bring a good deal of baggage with him (which may have factored into why Gillis didn't make a strong push for him last June). Regardless, what we do know is that the Flames lost some valuable picks, prospects and are still dealing with a good deal of injuries (just today Bertuzzi had surgery).
In the end, the 2009 trade deadline will be remembered by Vancouver fans for its silence. But this team is in fifth place, winners of 11 out of the past 13 games and are in control of their own destiny. Assuming they make the playoffs, they'll do so behind some guys who are having career seasons, a deep blue line and one of the best netminders in the game. And behind them wil be Gillis who was "content" enough today to do nothing, effectively saying "this team is good to enough to beat anyone."
We'll find out soon enough if Gillis is right.
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I’m not sold on the Flames all of a sudden kicking ass with Joke-inen in their lineup. I really hope that shit backfires.
I like what the Oilers did. They went and got quality guys who will thrive in their high speed environment.
The Sharks getting Moen and Huskins is intriguing. If they were winning more lately those deals may not have happened.
I am content that Gillis did nothing. It shows he is in tune with the team. Would Recchi have been nice? Yeah. But I respect Gillis’ judgement on this situation. How do you tamper with a team that is one of the hottest clubs in the NHL?
No knee-jerking from Gillis. Lots of patience. I like it.
I have to admit that Wellwood has been playing very well on Line 3 lately. He’s not getting the points, but he’s adapting to a checking role. I think the guys really like him too.
Those Edmonton trades came from nowhere. Kotalik is a non-factor. A big, slow uncaring winger who is consistently the most inconsistent player on Buffalo. O’sullivan though is a fantastic trade. I’m very jealous that the Oilers picked him up for UFA Cole. Unbelievable might be even a better term to describe it.
And the best trade today, Pahlsson to chicago. Instantly makes them SO much harder to play against, as he nullifys whoever teams they face best player. And also, Anaheim threw in the towel today, pretty strange behaviour.
Pahlsson will have to get over his bout with mono though. He’s not healthy yet. That’s a tough illness to have.
I’m a big fan of Pahlsson. Great checking center.
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 4, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Another point I didn’t know where to fit in this post (fuck I’m tired) is that I like that this also opens the door for Manitoba players to come up if need be, like Hansen did two years ago. I can see Wellwood and Raymond eventually having to sit but if it gets some ice time for the young guys, I am definitely cool with that.
Also we have zero Cup experience. I was thinking on the subway before; who is our post season leader now? I was guessing Demo since I have no idea how often Sundin has been in the post season.
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Ah, well, there you go. Thankfully they play on the same line!
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 4, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
I’m delighted. Pyatt and Bernier looked great last night…perhaps they can keep it up (pretty please!) Wellwood is maybe starting to adapt to the third line… Sundin could still get even better. We might yet get Jay Bouw on July 1. In Gillis I trust. Heh.
Uggggh everyone singing Calgary’s praises sure is sickening though. Hopefully it’s true he’s a cancer! Ooooooooh we can only hope.
Don’t you guys love how I leave novels in your comment section?
novels are fine, but no crass jokes? unacceptable.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 4, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
you and your novels are always welcome here! But if you post any nudes of Ohlund you are OUT. :)
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 4, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Trivia time:
I’m thinking of a former all star Canuck winger who was once traded to the Panthers in a blockbuster deal, he has the letters “B” “U” “R” “E” in his name, and he would go on to have knee surgery and never be the same again. Who is this player?
Gagner!
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 4, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
Val Bure and his hot wife?
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 4, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
ok ok…gerald diduck?
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 4, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
BERtUzzi? nope, that was back surgery? Or wing attachment? I don’t remember
by rsm on Mar 4, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
bing bing bing! Bertuzzi. he had knee surgery yesterday, is out for a month supposedly. the ‘never be the same again’ part is wishful thinking on my part… but hopefully turns true!
by Beantown Canuck on Mar 5, 2009 8:06 AM PST up reply actions
Don't forget...
Recent Canucks teams had not enjoyed success after acquiring rentals on trade deadlines (Keith Carney, Geoff Sanderson to name a few). It is possibly due to lack of chemistry or what not… look at the great Sundin, it took him how many games to “get his legs back”? I do hope our team continues to run hot into the playoff.
However, why didn’t Gillis pick up Gary Roberts from waivers? He had points in the young Pens team last year, he played with Sundin and Wellwood before, and most importantly he has Cup experience. Really pulling my hair out on this one…
Off the top of my head I’d have to say maneuvering room + injury uncertainties.
I.e. Taking on Roberts’ salary would have limited his options on deadline day w.r.t. getting the player(s) he was targeting (those trades didn’t pan out, which doesn’t invalidate the decision not to pick up Roberts as ‘no trades made’ was an acceptable endpoint for deadline day, and the cap space he had was necessary).
Also, Roberts was injured a fair bit this season.
by rsm on Mar 5, 2009 4:01 AM PST up reply actions
Do re-entry waivers still count after deadline day? I’m suspecting not but I can’t find a confirmation of that anywhere…
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 5, 2009 4:41 AM PST up reply actions
No I don’t think Roberts can be claimed. That’s all sorts of wrong after D-Day because teams could abuse that process
It’s a shame Roberts wasn’t claimed though. I’ll bet Don Cherry has something to say about that on Saturday.
Chinese Canuck: those were my thoughts as well. Wouldn’t it be great to have Roberts over say…Pyatt, or even anyone on the 4th line?
by Sean Zandberg on Mar 5, 2009 7:44 AM PST up reply actions
But I’m curious…say Pudge pisses off AV yet again and is sent down to the Moose. Does he have to clear waivers then or no?
More to the point, does the waivers/re-entry waivers process stop with the deadline as well? I honestly have no idea but it would stand to reason they do. And if so AV can run amok without consequence now.
BTW I see that my man Ouellet has a shoulder injury. Booo.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 5, 2009 8:11 AM PST up reply actions
Here you go, man
The process involving re-entry waivers changes after the trade deadline, as a team can claim Petersen for half price and place him on their NHL roster, but they cannot play him in the regular season or in playoff games for the remainder of the season. That allows teams to make call-ups like this without much risk of losing a player.
That is from the great Lyle Richardson’s Blog. Makes sense.
What if Gary Roberts retires and un-retires? However, he probably cannot be on the playoff roster.
Lots of news articles from Tampa are speculating that he will retire soon. I personally can’t imagine him playing in the AHL…
by Chinese Canuck on Mar 5, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Ahh, there’s the black and white I wanted. It does make sense. I always get confused because in MLB players can still move after the deadline and it always confused me.
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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 7, 2009 7:25 AM PST up reply actions

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