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The Hair Pull Heard 'Round The World

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The Canadian feed of the brawl last night only showed Burrows/Keith once during the entire melee (focusing instead on Eager and Bieksa) and that was when they were already down on the ice. So I really had no idea that Burrows pulled anyone's hair until our friends at Second City Hockey let us know about it.

It didn't take long for the CDC, fueled by callers into the Team 1040 on the post game show, to start thinking about the possibility of a suspension. Puck Daddy jumped on it as well.

Today, courtesy of Kukla, there were some comments from the Hawks side of the fence about it.

"That's not something I've ever had happen to me," Keith said. "My little sister never even pulled my hair when I was a kid. It's kind of comical when you have a grown man trying to pull your hair on the ice."

The league likely will take a look at the incident and Burrows could be suspended.

"I don't know what the ruling is," Keith said. "I don't know if the league reviews that or not. It's pretty blatant he was pulling my hair."

The pulling of hair is prohibited and normally would draw a match penalty. However, none of the officials on the ice saw it as they were tending to ther other fights on the ice.

"I think it's silly," Hawks forward Adam Burish said. "There's no spot for that. I think that's stupid the way he was pulling [Keith's] hair. Especially a nice haircut like Duncan has. I didn't see it at the time [but] I'm sure I would have been more mad than I was already."

I hope most Canuck fans can be objective enough to see that Burrows resorting to the actions of an irked 8 year old girl isn't what we've come to expect of him, especially considering his stellar season so far. Burrows may be a pest at heart, but I can't imagine he did this purposely (especially considering he's been in far worse altercations before and hasn't acted like that). I'd wager he got caught up in the moment, maybe Keith had him locked up pretty good and he went blindly with his instincts. Who knows, we can all guess.

But it's possible (probable?) the league will look at it and could still suspend him. It would absolutely suck to lose him just as we're close to over taking Calgary for the division and he's fueling that first line with the Sedins.

However, if a suspension happens, I would support it; if that was a Blackhawk pulling Kesler down by his hockey fro, we'd be a tad annoyed as well. Sounds like a wonderful way to get severely injured that doesn't involve Steve Ott acting like a moron (again).

That's just my two cents though...what say you?

Poll
Should Burrows be suspended for pulling down Keith by his hair?
Yes, it's a match penalty even if the refs missed it.
84 votes
Yes, because it's a stupid thing to do and shouldn't be emulated by others.
54 votes
No, because it wasn't called on the ice.
63 votes
No, because Burrows is Mr. Everything and learned his lesson.
11 votes
No, not until Byfuglien is shot out of a cannon into the sun. After that Burrows can be suspended.
114 votes

326 votes | Poll has closed

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Burrows made a mistake, but the video shows that the Hawk had him by the earflap, so he had to grab somewhere. He moved his hand as soon as his balance of gravity returned. Without the hairhold, Burrows was in danger of gettin slammed facefirst into the ice.
There will be no suspension, and i’m sure Burr won’t do it again.

by Nuckels on Mar 30, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Totally agree, including (my hope) in that he doesn’t do it again.

Apparently firing guys out of a cannon is a popular choice.

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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 30, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who gives a shit? We won 4-0, and Hawk fans consider this “revenge.”

by Linix129 on Mar 30, 2009 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

The only way that it’s wrong is that it’s not very man-like to pull hair in a fight. It should be left for fights like this.

But hey, it Burrows. I thought it was funny. Adam Burrish didn’t think so.

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 30, 2009 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Or this – not completely SFW.

According to the 1040, in response to my e-mail question on the post-game show, hair pulling is illegal in fights, and can lead to a suspension. I’d have to look that up in the rulebook to verify, but I really can’t be bothered.

Beyond that I just thought it was funny, and it looked like Burrows and Keith were joking about it afterward.

by rsm on Mar 30, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with a little bit of that. Nothing at all.

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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 30, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Check here. There is nothing on hair – pulling or even Ric Flair eye-poking. I think that if there is an attempt to injure the opponent through dirty tactics then the NHL might look at it. But that doesn’t apply here. Nothing will happen.
At the end of the day, Burrows fought like a girl. That should be punishment enough. Make him wear a skirt or something.

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 30, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool, thanks for checking. I really didn’t feel like plowing through the rulebook without any coffee in my system..

by rsm on Mar 30, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

A dress would be funny.

I think if anything it would be a match penalty (based on what they say here, “”http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26304" >attempt to injure").

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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 30, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, let me try that again…

“attempt to injure”

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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 30, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

How you justify hair pulling as an attempt to injure (other than attempt to injure hairstyle) is a bit beyond me.

by rsm on Mar 30, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not; the Chicago link above suggests the hair pull was used to pull Keith down to the ice head first. That, theoretically, is an attempt to injure if the NHL brass brains have their way

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by Yankee Canuck on Mar 31, 2009 4:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like how it was raining outside.

by Linix129 on Mar 30, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

M'eh

That’s not a hair pull. That’s a hair tug. Barely a grab, really.

by Temujin on Mar 30, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

1st I’m a Hawks fans just to let everyone know.
One hair pull can be excused but watch the video he does it at least 3 times. That’ weak, against any code and unexcusable. Much like Buff taking a swipe at a tenders head.

by Roos-34 on Mar 30, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

No no, those are 2 different things.

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 30, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Class

Your crap team showed they have no class like Calgary. The better team put a thumping on them playing Hockey… not boxing. Can’t wait till that little smug grin is wiped off burrishes face next year when No. 24 says hello. Next Year your asking? Vans going to win their division and your low class team isn’t going to make it out of the first round…

by VanFan39 on Mar 30, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

ZING!

I’m following what you’re dropping

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 30, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Class?

Like Your darling #24 going Knee to Knee on one player, getting the penalty and before the Nucks can touch up he takes out Brouwer Knee to Knee again. Real Classy Hordichuk. Brouwer’s out for 2 games with a knee injury.
Look when i posted i said i was a Hawks fan to let my bias be shown, I also said Buff taking a swipe at Luongo’s head was inexcusable. But don’t give me this no class crap. and for the record please do win the division, who wouldn’t want to face a struggling Calgary in the first round rather than a hot Nucks team? Smart is smart. Please win the Divison, Take care of your business tonight.

by Roos-34 on Mar 31, 2009 5:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, it’s alright. Your argument is valid. I just liked the zing!
Was that an intentional knee on knee by Hordichuk? I have to watch that again.
You’re right about questioning the “no class” statement. Was Luongo’s overreaction to the jab an act of class? No.
Was jabbing Luongo in the first place classy? No.
No one can win the argument.
I’m actually thankful to Byfucklian for jabbing Lou in the first place. The rough stuff that ensued was completely worth it!

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 31, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Side note: Sharks are beating the Lames 2-1 after 2

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 30, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

and the Flames lose 2-1!

I guess this means Vancouver loses to the Wild tomorrow night then?
heheheh….er..

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 30, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. I hereby declare: the Vancouver Canucks shall be leading the Northwest Division in under 24 hours. By the grace of the Lord (Stanley).

by Beantown Canuck on Mar 30, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said this yesterday…but WTF is Duncan Keith doing picking a fight with Alex Burrows??? Keith is 10X the size of Burrows and Burrows was doing everything possible to get Keith to the ice, so he wouldn’t get the crap beat out of him.

Burr! Claim Self-Defense…

by GZ Expat on Mar 30, 2009 9:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Almost as shocking

…as going after a Sedin. Dude, really?

by Thursday on Mar 30, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burrows Got It Wrong

Think about your hockey equipment. I’m not a tall guy, and have been in the occasional headlock: that’s when you target the outside of the thighs, between the armour plates. You’d be amazed how quickly a charlie horse makes someone let go as they crash to the bar flo – Uh, I mean the ice.

Don’t got for the knees or any such, of course: it’s all in fun, after all.

by Thursday on Mar 30, 2009 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

There isn’t anything to argue about here. This is hockey! A few hacks and wacks here and there. Cheapshots. Retribution. Sending a message. It’s all part of the game. I love it and I don’t care who does it. That game was entertaining as hell!
The Hawks failed miserably is the bottom line, and their weakness has been exposed. They may be too young at the core and have no self control. How will that translate in a playoff series?
Stirring the pot

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 30, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Just for the record, Keith and Burrows are both listed at 6 ’1 and Keith is 4 pounds heavier at 194. Pretty even in size, with Burrows leading in penalty minutes and physical play for the last few years.

by Nuckels on Mar 30, 2009 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Just to put up a different image of Burrows:

Here he is fighting Tootoo (and not fairing so well, but who cares? He stood up to him.)

-fighting Dennis Wideman (not getting many licks in there either)


-taking on Byron Ritchie

-saying hello to Barnaby

-Burrows vs Carcillo


-Burrows vs Lecavalier

Huh. I see a recurring theme here. He’s gutsy and won’t back down, but should stick to hair-pulling! haha

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 30, 2009 11:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Just so there’s an Apples to Apples comparison. That was Keith’s first fight of the year. According to Hockeyfight.com he’s only been in 5 Career Fights

by Roos-34 on Mar 31, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed on all your comments! from a Hawks vantage point that 3rd period circus was about the only thing worth watching. Good Luck tonight for the Divison lead

by Roos-34 on Mar 31, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re a great sport, Roos-34. Your comments here are appreciated.

by Sean Zandberg on Mar 31, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

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