Conspiracy Theorists Unite: Is The Orca Going Extinct?
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 12:29 PM PST
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PrintIcethetics, probably the best jersey concept/update site on the web, posted a piece last week about the possibility of the Orca Whale logo on the Canucks jersey going bye-bye. The site manager, Chris, had received an email from a Canucks fan who mentioned that he thought the Orca extinction was a possibility because of:
1. In January 2008, the Acquilini Investment Group changed the name of Orca Bay Sports and Entertainment to Canucks Ports and Entertainment.
2. The direction noticed in Canucks marketing.
Chris mentioned that the Sabres and Canucks will be celebrating their 40th year in the NHL in 2010-11, and that the Sabres have already talked publicly about reverting to their classic logo and that the Canucks may follow suit.
Who knows for sure. It's speculation at this point. Check out two Icethetics posts on that here and here.
Now, let's hear YOUR opinion. What logo would you prefer to be the dominant one? Here are your options (more or less as is being dictated by the current market)...
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Haha
One of the main reasons I bought the modernized rink © jersey was because I was worried about that long term.
That said, I DO love the V crest (b) on the shoulders of the rink jersey ©. I also love the (d) design.
Save the whales! Save the god damned whales!!!!
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
You were saying?
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
I’m not Greenpeace at all. Slaughter that thing!
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Johnny Canuck is the best but I had heard the Canucks don’t want to pay for the rights to use it or something.
by Section 312 on Dec 7, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions
me too, I just bought another one of those!
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
The Orca is just a corporate logo from a previous owner anyhow.
Johnny Canuck is the coolest. Saw what must have been a limited edition of special jersey on a guy D/T with that on the blue and white jersey.
It was awesome. Keep the stick in rink as a third, and use Johnny C as a replacement for the corporate logo.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
Any logo is fine as long as the Canucks wearing it can hoist the cup!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Dec 7, 2009 1:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
BTW, can we revert to previous team colors while we’re at it? The blue and green just ain’t doin’ it for me, too subdued.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
How about Johnny Canuck in black and orange? He would look angrier.
by Section 312 on Dec 7, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
With maybe a bit of red, too. Anger+Passion=Canuck! Add masochism to get Canuck fan!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I may try to photoshop that later if i have time…just to give you a visual
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
I like the blue and green…but like the black/yellow/red of the 90’s best.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
black and red
remind me of Loverboy.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
i’m on photobucket right now, gonna try it.
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
here's a trial
not exactly what i was trying for. my photobucket fill method wasn’t working properly, and a picnik method offered this interesting result.
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
Piece of crap!!
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Like I was saying.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
As I was trying to say a few posts previous, black and red remind me of Loverboy. Hence, the picture.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
Oh, I was too distracted by that Photobucket fail image. haha
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Oh a wise guy, eh? ;)
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
“Shoot me like a rocket..into space!
Lovin’ every minute of it!”
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 8, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
They just announced today that Loverboy (along with Trooper) will playing at one of the medal ceremony nights at the Olympics!
by Beantown Canuck on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
For the recor, the drummer from trooper was my high school band teacher. I kid you not.
by Beantown Canuck on Dec 8, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
I just tried. I am at work so had to use Paint. My eyes hurt. And Johnny has never looked better. I just can’t figure out how to post it so you all can see it.
by Section 312 on Dec 7, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
put it in photobucket, and then use the “image” button below the comment header
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Do I have to be a member of this “photobucket”?
by Section 312 on Dec 7, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
It’s the shiz though. I use it all the time.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Or you can email it to me and I’ll put it on photobucket and post it for you
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
or Facebook or Flickr or any site that lets you post your pics.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I’m not on any sites. I try to stay off of the grid. Just NM for me.
by Section 312 on Dec 7, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
I love the colours. Would maybe prefer the skating Johnny rather than the V with the snooty stuck up Johnny. But I love it. LOVE IT.
by Section 312 on Dec 7, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Screw that! That would take forever! Here's an alternate to the above...
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
How great is black. So badass. Rypien would scare the shit out of guys wearing that uni.
by Section 312 on Dec 7, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
hell yeah! black is best by far. Intimidation is key
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
The colors sure beat the tranquil blue/green meditation smocks!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
Glad you like them. I’m working on the runnng johnny canuck right now. Should be cool…maybe. Aim to please
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
i agree, this looks so cool!
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
nah, i like the v better
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
I like it better than the V, myself. Maybe it’s just that the V needs a little more style, like shading or a gentle curve or something?
You realize you acquire copyright simply by publishing original ideas on this board, Sean, If you come up w/the “winning” design, I’m gonna be the first to say, “I knew him back when.”
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
coming up with an original concept…not sure I could do it.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
The V definitely looks more like a typical team logo, but I like the uniqueness of the “running” Johnny myself.
How about in a plad shirt though? Come on, Sean, show us what you’re worth! ;)
...loving life for Christ's glory...
I need to buy this jersey. Now what would the home one look like?
by Section 312 on Dec 7, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Use your imagination. ha! I’m not making anymore!
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 8, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
Status quo is fine by me
I like the Orca in the current colour scheme. The Johnny Canuck ‘V’ is a great secondary logo, and the stick-in-rink a solid third.
FYI, Zandberg, conspiracy theorists can’t unite. We would, but the New World Order prevents it from happening. Wake up, people!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I think the skate lost unanimously to the stick in rink in a poll we did a while back…we could be the minority because many hate the skate logo design. I say they are FOOLS!!
The stick is a good retro logo for a 3rd uniform.
BTW, how could the skate lose unanimously if you and I prefer it? Did you not count all the votes, even from King County? Hmmm. You were pretty quick to dismiss the New World Order, weren’t you? Maybe too quick.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I be one of those fools.
It’s not the skate logo so much that I hate, but the colour scheme. I have a big bias against yellow+orange, yellow+red, or red+orange combos. Any of those three combos together at one time turn me off big time. Maybe it’s partially because of my hate for the Flames or maybe not. But seriously, if we had any of those combinations in our colour scheme I wouldn’t buy any Canuck merch (not that I can afford to buy much anyway so no big loss to the organization).
As for my preference, stick-in-rink all the way. I like the current home and away jersey colours and striping patterns, but replace the logos with the third logos and get rid of the wordmark and I would be as happy as possible. That’s my dream Canucks jersey. And have a green third with the V logo or the full Johnny logo. That would be nice too.
i like the v with johnny’s head. even if it went on the shoulder with the stick in the rink on the chest, that would be cool.
i wouldn’t be surprised if the orca went bye-bye.
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
Johnny Canuck
Is way too close to the Vancouver Giants logo. Toigo would go ballistic.
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
This is great art, but nothing I could support as a logo. It’s a bit…busy.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Dec 7, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
I have no idea what you’re talking about! Haha, this would rival the crashing -through-the-ice Mighty Duck from the mid-90s for worst logo ever.
by nucksandpucks on Dec 7, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
I’m saying the idea and concept was money. The artistic ability..the creativity….
I wouldn’t make that the logo either.
That is nowhere near the Mighty Ducks cryfest!
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I knew what ya meant… I don’t think anyone in their right mind would make that an NHL logo!
by nucksandpucks on Dec 7, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t like it. It’s weak. Not intimidating at all.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
I like the logo a lot, but the jersey would need to better for me to be happy.
by nucksandpucks on Dec 7, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
See, but that’s what I love about Johnny… way better than the stick IMO because the stick has nothing uniquely Canadian about it (aside from hockey, but let’s face it the whole league has hockey in common).
We could just make the logo a toque and I’d be happy as far as finally meeting the “Canucks” part of our name goes.
...loving life for Christ's glory...
What about the 90s unis, but replace the skate with Johnny Canuck skating down the slope made by the word “Canucks”?
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
You want a jersey with a Stortini beating as the logo?
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
A third jersey celebrating Rick Rypien. The foe could be any of them.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Dec 7, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Well then a fist crushing a skull would suffice!
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 7, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
It beats an Orca ;)
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Dec 7, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
The white jerseys aren’t bad, really. It’s just the entire jersey in that wimpy blue that makes the home jerseys so bad. No matter what logo you slap on it it’s going to look pretty weak with that tonal impotence.
...loving life for Christ's glory...
The 4th option with Johnny skating
It kinda reminds me of the Penguins jerseys
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 7, 2009 6:47 PM PST reply actions
Love the Johnny in Black yellow and Red Sean.
Great work!
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
Love the Orca
…but I like the black background and colors that come with it (yellow and red).
How’bout a red and yellow orca with black background?
and make the ice yellow? Like somebody pissed all over it ? ;0
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 8, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I would be fine with another totem pole motif, such as the bald eagle grabbing a fish. This would preserve the North West feel to the design, but create a new image.
Los Angeles, CA
A buddy of mine told me he hated the Orange and Black because Green and Blue are “West Coast colours” Now you are saying “North West Feel”
Is it really that important that our colour scheme and logo are representative of our region? Are there a lot of Red Flames in the Calgary area? Are there a lot of Mustard Yellow Predators in Nashville? The Maple Leafs wear blue. What does blue represent about TO? And Maple Leafs. Aren’t they brown?
Maybe I just don’t get it but the logo and colour scheme of a teams jersey should just look good. That’s all. It doesn’t need to represent anything. IMHO anyway.
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Is there a lot of Jazz in Utah?
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
You never know.
But in their defense they moved to Utah from New Orleans. That one kind of makes sense. Like the Lakers. They moved from Minnesota. The land of a thousand lakes. So that makes sense.
Even the Canucks part kind of makes sense. But colour wise. I just don’t see why it should matter. Of course I am known to be wrong a lot of the time so this is probably another one of those situations.
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Flames moved from Atlanta.
But I dunno why leagues are so reluctant, when moving a franchise, to let it change its name, too. The Utah Hoodoos or whatever would make more sense than the Utah Jazz. I mean, yeah, there must be some jazz there, but it’s not exactly a hotbed, like the Mormon Tabernacle Jazz Band or anything.
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by casual on Dec 8, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Section, remember when they were so mocked for the Flying Vees and the fact they paid a quarter mil for the consultants that selected the colours?
How quickly the Hartford Whalers said " Blue and Green are good enough for us!"?
As a fan fron the original colours, who had a jersey when I was a kid, and wore it until it literally got too small to adapt any more (last manifestation was the cut off arms …got too tight around the neck…in the end)…
I can say that I was happiest when they went back to them.
I didn’t really hate the Flying Vees when I got used to them, but was pissed they got rid of the original colours. I do like the use of them above…but to me, the Running Man logo ( the original name and logo of a team that was here in the old WHL days) with the Blue and Green looks slick.
I didn’t really enjoy the Orca Bay colours. All that was to me was a corporate branding of the team. McCaw’s other businesses were all under the Orca Bay name as well.
They almost lost me when they added the red fade to that jersey.
Just about made me reset the TV for B&W!
Peace
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
I did not mean the color scheme..
when I mentioned the North-West feel. I meant the totem pole motif of the orca.
The totem pole is a cultural icon of the North-West.
I don’t think that the logo should necessarily reflect the region, but it is a nice bonus if it does. The local fans always appreciate a reference to their traditions.
Los Angeles, CA
Well Bryan Adams is a cultural icon of the North West and I don’t think he should be the logo either. The Totem pole is an Indigenous cultural icon and I am not indigenous. I don’t think you will find a logo that represents everyone so why even bother?
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Fair enough...
Just like the maple leaf representing Canada. There is no maple growing in the tundra of the Great North, but locals don’t mind using the maple leaf when going abroad.
Los Angeles, CA
Well don’t get me started about the Maple Leaf. Just cause it is on the flag it is supposed to represent Canadians? Are Italians red, green and white?
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
If you were born here, then you’re indigenous: our home and native land, that’s what it means.
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I was born in Transylvania, but I love the Canucks and all the cultures of the North West. I am also proud to be a naturalized Canadian living in the US. :)
Los Angeles, CA
Attila from Transylvania? Um, how old are you? About 1600 or so?
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
And impales people (up thru the coal chute, out by the collarbone) too! That’s where Vlad the Impaler (the model for Drac) learned it from, at least historically.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I used to eat blood,
..but I lost my appetite since I moved here. Although I used to buy blood sausage from a local portugese deli close to the old railway station in Vancouver.
The problem is, it has very high cholesterol.
Los Angeles, CA
by AttilaS on Dec 8, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I am a dual citizen. I consider myself as much English as I do Canadian. But I also hate nationalism. I am a human and that is all that should matter. Nationalism runs a close second to religion in terms of limiting peace and understanding in this world. But my point about the Totem Pole stands. The logo shouldn’t represent anything.
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Or more accurately doesn’t need to represent anything. Other than looking cool.
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Blind devotion is a prob, but in human history we have has societies run without nationalism and without religion and they were living hells, so I’d say our difficulty is more in our nature than in our nurture. Thus my predilection for learning about psychology and history together.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
Human Nature
Well this could get ugly!! Just kidding. It is a tricky subject thought. I actually think that Humans are for the most part caring and understanding and tolerant. Or at least the majority of us are. There are bad apples of course but people are good. Despite what you would think if you just watched the news.
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think that, too. I also think we let the bad apples cause trouble (and mislead us) far beyond what their numbers should ever warrant. Both nationalism and religion are, to them, just tools to be used in their pursuit of power, and they corrupt everything they touch.
If you really wanna get into it, I think it’s narcissism run amok, the glorification of image over reality, style over substance, that drives the process when things go awry. Narcissism, remember, doesn’t mean you love yourself, it means that you love your image.
But maybe we’re drifting off topic again….
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
But when I was a kid Andre Agassi taught me that image is everything.
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I could't agree more on nationalism...
that is the main reason I left that part of the word. Nationalism can get quite ugly, I can tell you from personal accounts.
Los Angeles, CA
It's a fail....it looks like an angry worm jumping out of a shithole.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 8, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Someone done boiled that whale alive, Ma, like a lobster!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
Hmmmm….I like it better than the skating Johnny. I’m torn between the classic C and this one. But the longer I look at it, the more I like it.
I don’t think that it is a fail at all. Thanks!
Los Angeles, CA
Huge Fail
I can’t look at it for longer than a couple seconds without my eyes watering. Although maybe that would be perfect. If a goalie won’t look at Danny he is more likely to score. Right?
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
It is kind of “In Your Face”, isn’t it?
You are right, it may distract the goalie just a split second, long enough for Danny to score.
Los Angeles, CA
When you first look at it you become disoriented. That split second might be all we need.
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
I always wanted to do something like Dr. Angry and Mr. Smile on a uniform, so that the image would change as our guys got closer to the opposing goalie:
Look at the image. Now back away about 10 or 15 feet from your monitor; the faces will have switched. They change depending on how close you are.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
It’s doubly weird cuz if you look away and just see them outa the corner of yur eye, that can make them switch, too. So you look at it and it’s different, you look away and it’s back….
It’s similar to what DaVinci did with the Mona Lisa: he put her smile in a bit of a shadow, which has the effect that if you look at it directly, you don’t really see it clearly, but if you’re looking at, say, her eyes, then you do … till you look right at it again….
Neat, eh? And you could really bamboozle a goalie with a “now you see it, now you don’t” uniform!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
No, I am a late baby-boomer.
Transylvania is a province in Romania, I am a Hungarian born there. It used to belong to Hungary before the world war(s).
Los Angeles, CA
Attila the Hungarian, I second Sean’s greeting. Welcome!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
I grew up next to Hungarians. Puskas and Budapest were all I ever heard about. Apparently they are the best footballer and city ever, respectively. Welcome.
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
wow, you guys sure went off-topic here……
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
yeah, very true……
they went crazy about nationalism as well though……
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
If I can’t spout theories about what ails this planet on NM where can I do it?
by Section 312 on Dec 8, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
well, maybe I’ll pass the ideas on to the Canucks and see what they think.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 8, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
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