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Gillis Tries Magic -- Trying to turn Schneider into a low pick

According to  Sportsnet.ca, Gillis is actively tyring to trade Mathieu Schneider. The same reasons as posited on the Sun's blog, Nuckworld, this morning -- reduced role and lack of playing time -- are cited by Sportsnet.ca as the personal reasons Schneider left the team earlier this month and the motivation for a potential trade.

So, who do you think might take a chance on a 40 yr old D-man and what do you think the price might be?

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What to get for Schneider? I don’t think anyone is going to take him. His stock has plummeted. 4th round pick at the most I’d say. It’s not like we gave away anybody to get him in the first place.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 27, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I think any of these teams could use him: Rangers, Panthers, Bruins, Red Wings.

3rd or 4th round pick at best in return.

Or just waive him?

by cyxj on Dec 27, 2009 9:55 PM PST reply actions  

Red Wings, and get a recent late-pick prospect, not a pick per se. The Wings scout the higher picks better’n anyone, so let’s take advantage of that.

The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.

by casual on Dec 28, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

The answer is simple

Glen Sather… Cause hes like that

by okgo570 on Dec 27, 2009 11:17 PM PST reply actions  

A fourth round pick..

is probably dreaming…

it will probably be like a conditional fourth rounder at best, with the condition being a specified amount of games played..

by T.Haynes on Dec 28, 2009 12:51 AM PST reply actions  

The extra frustration from Schneider must/may come from the fact that his contract for this year has bonuses for games played. He’s already missing out on some of that extra $$$

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 28, 2009 2:09 AM PST reply actions  

I’d take a bag of pucks for Schneider, not because he is that terrible but because we need the cap space.

by jozsef on Dec 28, 2009 2:46 AM PST reply actions  

Yep

and every team will know that, which is why not likely to get much for offers unless two teams need him bad.

by yoata on Dec 28, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Anything

I’d honestly take pretty much anything for him.

What I’d really like is to see the Canucks trade Lukowich and Schneider for a 7th round pick, then offer the 7th rounder back to whomever for Lukowich. Basically, give away Schneider for zilch, and in exchange the other team helps the Canucks get Lukowich out of the minors.

Don’t know if the NHL would approve though.

by Jevant on Dec 28, 2009 7:05 AM PST reply actions  

LOL, that’ll definitely raise some eyebrows.

by cyxj on Dec 28, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there’s a rule barring a player from returning to his team in the same season… I remember the NHL barred Dean McAmmond from playing with the Flames a few years back after he was traded back from Colorado…

by splnwezel on Dec 28, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

via Wikipedia
On October 1, 2002, prior to the beginning of the 2002–03 NHL season, Calgary traded McAmmond with Jeff Shantz and Derek Morris to the Colorado Avalanche for Stéphane Yelle and Chris Drury. In the midst of an injury-filled season with the Avalanche, Calgary re-acquired McAmmond from Colorado on March 11, 2003 for a fifth-round selection in the 2003 NHL Entry Draft. The NHL ruled McAmmond ineligible to participate for the remainder of the season, however, as the trade violated a league regulation that prohibited a player from being traded back to a team within 12 months on the same contract.

by splnwezel on Dec 28, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

From today's Vancouver Sun

Defenceman Willie Mitchell, who was plus-three on the night, said the fact the Canucks had played the night before may actually have been an advantage.

“We were fortunate to play the Oilers first and kind of find that rhythm,” Mitchell said. “You take two or three days off and you lose your timing quick. We were fortunate enough to play a team last night in the Oilers who were on the same page as us going in and we both kind of worked through our Christmas turkey and ham. And I think that paid big dividends for us playing against the Flames tonight because we had that timing down. . .I just thought we were a little fresher, a little more in the groove and it showed with us having a real good first period.”

by Bobby Canuck on Dec 28, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

"You take two or three days off and you lose your timing quick…

we were a little fresher, a little more in the groove and it showed with us having a real good first period."

No kidding. Thanks again for the schedule Gillisgoon.

by yoata on Dec 28, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

IIRC, Schneider’s bonuses require him to average 15:00 of ice time per game. He is currently at 15:14. If he gets his time cut further due to mediocre play, then he could lose approx $1.2m out of his $2.75m contract, or 43% of his pay. My quick math says that means he’ll need 11:02 of ice time if he plays in our 40th game, which is also our next game, in order to earn his first bonus of $300k.

He’s not playing well enough to guarantee that ice time, so the kindest thing Gillis can do for his ex-client is to sit him for now and try to trade him somewhere where he will play more. Playing him in that game could put AV into the awkward position where, if MS is playing poorly, does AV sit him down and thereby lower MS’s avg ice time under 15:00, costing MS the $300k? Or does AV play a guy who’s struggling, potentially costing the Canucks a game and, for now at least, a playoff spot?

Well, no way you risk a playoff spot, so you sit MS down and remove the dilemma. After game 40, the next bonuses come, I think, at 50, 60 and 70 games, so maybe you have a few games to see if he improves, but more likely is that you trade him cuz there’s no point in paying him to sit. And if you lower his ice time any more and cost him the bonus you’ll have one angry player (plus you’ll risk a lesser rep around the league for yourself?)

In the end, Schneider just hasn’t played well enough to earn the ice time that earns him his bonuses, but maybe somewhere else, on another team he could.

The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.

by casual on Dec 28, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

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