Canucks Rumor Du Jour: They Are Interested In Ilya Kovalchuk
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 1:28 PM PST
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PrintTweeted by NHLSourcesSay, who writes for HendricksHockey.com:
The Thrashers may want a D-man instead of Cory Schnieder. The Canucks offer would then be a 1st round pick, Demitra, Grabner, and a D-man.
First of all, it's just a rumor. Secondly...with (especially) Ryan Kesler and Mason Raymond's contracts ending after this season (plus several d-men), the Canucks are going to need to pony up the cash to keep them here. Kovalchuk is making $7.5 million this season and is looking to make Ovechkin-type money next season ($9 million). Tell me where the Canucks are going to find that kind of money. On another super-long-term front-loaded contract? This trade is not going to happen, unless a lot of the current roster is pissed away whether that be now or in the summer..
Just my 2 cents. What's yours?
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Dec 22, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions
Her husband is from Vancouver, and she did get married on Vancouver Island… so who knows, it may hapen jut out of sheer proximity?
by Beantown Canuck on Dec 22, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve written about the problems the Canucks would have fitting Kovalchuk in past next season over on my blog, but there’s a few things that should be noted about this ‘rumor’
1) It’s completely made up. HendricksHockey makes Eklund look like a Pulitzer winner.
2) The rumor magically changed to involving a dman after several people tweeted to that Twitter account about the problems. Originally it was Demitra, Schneider and a 1st.
3) The pieces don’t make a lot of sense. Originally it involved Cory Schneider. He’s a great talent and is a bargaining chip for the Canucks, but Atlanta already has Pavelec and Lehtonen (not to mention Hedberg.) They really don’t need a goalie. Demitra is a pending free agent and is on injured reserve.
4) The Canucks cannot fit Kovalchuk into the roster as is. Per the link you posted, they’re actually $4.0M over the cap, but are given cap exemption due to Demitra being on long term injured reserve. Trading away Demitra doesn’t solve anything as the Canucks would be pressed up right against the cap.
…that said, I would gladly eat my hat if Gillis somehow manages to land Kovalchuk without giving up any significant assets.
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Good point, that makes me wonder if we can even fit Demitra under the cap once he’s healthy.
Kovalchuk aside, there may still be some roster moves coming…
Yep…that’s the other reason Vancity is a “city dejour” in all the internet rumours.
We do have some intriguing young players too.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
The offer is actually both twins for Kovalchuck, then Kesler moves to the #1 line. That handles the cap issues. The lines become:
Kovalchuk-Kesler-Grabner
Raymond-Demitra-Samuelsson
Hansen-Rypien-Bernier
Glass-Johnson-Shirok
Cap hits are good as the Canucks lose $12.2m on the twins, gain back Kovalchuck, but then have to bring in another fw (Shirok) and leave room for Kes & Raymond next year.
Ok, I made it up … or did I? (I’m lookin’ at you, Hendricks!)
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Why did Sportsnet have Eklund on their Trade Deadline show? :P
I think you’ve confused the folks that NHLSourcesSay are following, rather than their followers. Also, some twitter feeds, like the Rangers, add just about anyone who follows them.
Near as I can tell, they don’t have any credibility. None of their writers on their site have any press credentials and their ‘rumors’ sidebar is quoting sites like HFBoards and fan blogs.
http://www.trevorpresiloski.com
Milbury was busy?
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
I can remember that deadline. What a fail by Sportsnet.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, if I could make big bucks and only have to be right 3.1% ………………………………………………..( http://hockeybuzzhogwash.com/ )
I admire Ek’ for only that…his stuff is just pure "Rosterbation " ( great word, should make the Revised Oxford soon! )
Its more the one that can generate the most hits for sure… and maybe because it does look like he is going somewhere.
Vancouver with the Sedins, and not getting rid of Kes’ or Mase this year, plus Kovalchuk would become one of the more offensive teams in the league. I would think they get rid of any two high priced D’ that they can…(maybe Eddy and Bieksa )…play their young ones more. Or get one back in the deal. Chitown is a good example of a team going for it now and willing to pay for it tomorrow. “Putting it on the Visa”. They know they might have to sell a toy or two to make it work later, but that shiny thing sure looks like fun to win.
Surely Big Frank has deep enough pockets to use his AE QuadPlatinum if he is as serious about wanting the Cup as he keeps telling the good people of Vancouver and BC.
If he truly believes that his young guys like Hodgson, Shroeder, Rodin, Shirokov and others are going to challenge for spots in the next year or two, he can morph his team quicker ( on the fly…… into a Hawks clone, and not have to worry as much about the Cap hit Kovy gets.) They can always figger a way with the ol’ dollars when the rich owner is willing to eat a contract or store it in the minors…give Ol’ “Numbers” Gilman a chance to work his magic.. ;-)
MMMMMMM…now that was some good Rosterbating…excuse me, need to have a “smoke”…LOL
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
How was the smoke?
I’d take several other players over Kovalchuk, right now, financial things considered. He’s heading into free agency. To piss away what Atlanta would want for him…he had better sign here next summer. Even then….it’ll be too much $$$. It’s not worth the risk, IMO. And he has barely any playoff experience. I’ll take a proven guy with a Cup ring over Ilya.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, just don’t feel like rosterbating today. So if all of us rosterbate at the same time in a comment thread..what do you call that? Yeah my mind is lost today. Don’t answer that.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What’s the harm in flying some kites?
Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.
rec’d…definitely made me LOL !
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
Kovalchuck
Wait till summer when he is a free agent, get rid of Salo, and Mitchell (both floaters now just making a paycheck) – both of their salaries combined should cover the price of Kovalchuck.
Mitchell is a floater? wtf
I don’t think getting rid of our best defensive defenseman is a good idea.
Bieksa on the other hand….
If Mitchell doesn’t expect a raise, I’d sign him longterm
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Now there is a whole post right there for the downtime Sean.
Mitchell…how much and for how long? Or, do you even want him to stay? To me, Gillis is taking the lessons learned in being an agent to do his negotiating with his players. He KNOWS who he is negotiating with, and has little problem working with deadlines. He knows Willie wants to stay here…the Canucks will probably still get first choice consideration even if the player goes UFA.
What kind of HTD will the Canucks get for a defensive player that makes no bones about loving living and playing at home?
2 years, 7.1 mil, with both the team and player having an option for the 3rd…
Peace
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
you’re right. that would be a good post, with a massive poll attached to it to gauge people’s opinion. Thnx, I’ll see if I can get around to that.
Anyone reading the Mathieu Schneider speculations out there? Some crazy stuff on Twitter and The Sun about Schneider being pissed about being benched, having an animated conversation with Dave Gagner and then leaving practice early….hasn’t been back since.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 23, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
both of their salaries combined should cover the price of Kovalchuck.
You still have to replace the those D-men. Even if we get, say, a couple of $1.5m guys (which is cheap these days for a good d-man), that’s $3m against the cap that you’re not counting.
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